The Traitor Class – by David Horowitz

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On Monday night Bill O’Reilly had a representative of the traitor class in his cross-hairs, an episode he re-visited Tuesday night. The traitor class is easily defined as people who can’t identify a self-declared enemy of the United States even after he has killed 3,000 innocent people in an act of self-described holy war and is prepared to provide his talents and services gratis to help the enemy combatant attack this own country.

Scott Fenstermaker is an attorney for Covington Burling, a white shoe law firm which has provided millions of dollars in pro bono legal work to Gitmo terrorists. A Covington partner is the brother of Weather terrorist Kathy Boudin, and the lawyer organizing the Gitmo pro bono defense team is family friend and political comrade Michael Ratner, head of the terrorist-supporting Center for Constitutional Rights, who has spent his life defending America’s enemies and serving anti-American causes.

If you can’t describe the 3000 innocent victims of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed as “murdered” and your first move is to describe your own government’s case as propaganda, and you are devising a case to “justify” the evil deed your client has committed and won’t say that you would be upset if your country were to lose the case, and also if you’re a Jew and don’t have any problem defending an Islamic Nazi who beheaded Daniel Pearl after forcing him to say “I’m a Jew, I’m a Jew” — there can be only one explanation. You believe in the justification defense you are preparing, you think America and the Jews are guilty and deserve what they get, and you are a traitor.

And much worse — only words are inadequate to describe just how low on the human scale you have sunk.

  • datukennethjanczak

    David if I may I would like to submit the following quote from Cicero to support your excellent article:

    Quote from Marcus Tullius Cicero

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

    Do you recognize anyone ? I lost count after about 200 . . .

  • hfife

    First let me state my position. The public trail of these war criminals is an insult to the US legal system and Americans as a whole. It is totally politically motivated by Holder and the Obamatible administration he represents. I am confident this president will go down as the biggest liar and the worst president in US history.

    That being said, Fenstermaker made a serious mistake coming on to O'Reilly's program in the first place. Bill will ask the tough questions and really should not ask a defense consul his feelings on his clients charges. Fenstermaker walked a thin line in the interview avoiding any speach that could be interpreted as a pre-judgement of his client. Any public comments he makes that reflect on the guilt or innocents of a client could be a point of appeal or misstrial if a conviction is handed down. Since another attorney could site a defense consuls prejudice against the client. Even one who did not directly participate in the litigation itself.

    While I have no love for Fenstermaker and nothing but contempt for his ignorant, barbarian clients, I regret I must respect his cautious replies to Bill's prodding questions. His evasiveness, while it was “weasally” as Bill put it, it did not give much evidence for prejudice in fact it was the opposite.

    I am an ardent fan of Bill O'Reilly and David Horiwitz and agree almost completely with their philosophies. But because of the radical loopholes the liberal left have driven into our criminal justice system, extreme care has to be used in discussion of criminal cases. Mr. Fenstermaker may well be a “weasal” but you can't fault his behavior on “The Factor”

  • wss25

    The real problem with the public trials is that the 911 hoax may be exposed. The buildings were brought down with controlled demolition.

  • starkermann

    Jewish people have been turning on their own for centuries, ever since the time of Jesus at least when he was betrayed by Judas, so nothing is really new here. George Soros turned in his fellow Jews to the Nazis as a youngster and now only has contempt for Jews. Again nothing new here. Most of the Jews who live in the USA are liberals who also have contempt for the rest who are not so left leaning. These Jews voted en masse for Obama knowing full well his stance against Judaism, and Israel, yet they still voted for his agenda and him. Again nothing new here. Fenstermaker as a liberal leaning leftist betrayed his people by defending these criminals who only have contempt for the Jews, Americans, Israelis, and everyone else who desires to live in a freedom oriented society, again nothing new here. One day, the left leaning Jews will wake up and see for themselves that unless they apply the old Rabbinic saying put forth by a right wing Jew of old a Rabbi Akiba” If I am not for myself who will be, and if not now…when” Jews one day will wake up, let's hope it will not be in another shower, with a false shower head and Zyklon B sucking the life out of them.

  • laurettelatini

    Amen.

  • abrahamstubenhaus

    Thank you Mr. David Horowitz for bringing this sleazy worm to the surface even if only just to help people like me notice where the cancer is. Mr. Obama is ashamed of his country, America. Mr. Fenstermaker is ashamed of his culture, Judaism. These people always seek to justify their self hatred by bowing to the enemy. However, this is clearly an open and public stage for the perverts to expose themselves on. This Fenstermaker is the typical insidious and pervasive display of mental illness. This is a pattern of self-sabotage, motivated by deep feelings of unworthiness. Psychologically, this man is so easily analyzed in that he falls so simply and snugly into the classic categories of depression, substance abuse, and general anxiety. In short, when a show off rises to announce that he wants to defend mass murderers, he has exposed himself with knowledge aforethought. As a self appointed male cheerleader boy, his self-hatred represents one of the negative consequences of the socialization process itself. Undoubtedly, he is strongly representative of the Cluster B classification of personality disorders; histrionic, narcissistic, borderline, antisocial, and soaked in denial.
    Mr. Fenstermaker…get thee to a shrink post haste!

  • BS77

    LO, the IDIOT wss25 speaks!! Controlled demolition…..another cult zombie with his head up his you know what.

  • USMCSniper

    They are coming to take you away away ho ho hee hee ha ha They are coming to take you away. Lay off those weird mushrooms, they are bad for ya!

  • bob_D

    Per Michelle Malkin (Corruption) our “top cop” Eric Holder was a senior partner at Covington Burl before his knighthood to the Attorney General post. Where's the anger about this obvious conflict of interest.
    The Obama Legal Crusade where every terrorist, illegal and anyone else will get two attorneys provided by the US taxpayer. All politicians are attorneys and they will create there own job security for future fees. What a great system.

    Three more years folks…..

  • USMCSniper

    From The Beacon Street Journal

    Barack Obama and Eric Holder are members of that liberal constituency group that you would characterize as “the perpetually aggrieved.” No matter the extent of the progress America has made in eradicating the past sins of racism or discrimination, any such efforts will always be deemed incomplete, demonstrating the need for further erosion of our liberties to satisfy their undefined standards of perfection. For those like Obama and Holder, discrimination that occurred in the past will always be sufficient justification for remedial action to be administered by the heavy hand of government in the present and eternally into the future. Exactly what conditions would satisfy Holder to the effect that we are no longer an evil white racist country? They don’t say, and will never say. It is a blank check they will never fill in!

  • davarino

    Oooo, I cant wait to hear all the detail about how the towers were deliberately brought down with explosives. Its amazing how the CIA was able to recrute middle eastern muslims to committ suicide on their behalf in order to give them an excuse to invade Iraq. Its also amazing how these hijackers were able to fly the planes into the exact floor where the explosives were. Simply amazing, and its amazing how Holder was able to bring the trials to New York, which would risk exposing the hoax. This is going to be truely amazing.

  • bubba4

    If Bush has done it, you would have hailed it as a triumph of the American way.

  • bubba4

    I know this is crazy…but when you put someone on trial, they are typically given defense council.

    What is disgusting is how FPM and Horowitz are willing to undermine America if they think it gives them some edge.

  • trodaball

    Exactly what does someone have to do nowadays to be an American found guilty of treason ? It seems almost impossible. I guess you have to support America and the Constitution in it's original contexts to be a traitor in the eyes of those currently holding power. Islamists, no… Communists, no…Rabid-frothing-at-the-mouth anti-American ACLU lawyer, no chance… Judeo-Christian based freedom loving, honest hard- working American, yes ! It's unbelievable how fast and far we've come.

  • trodaball

    Bubba4- You are amazing….a simpleton and a mess who has swallowed the hook of a cancerous, self-loathing, suicidal death cult which will throw itself under the Mack Truck. It is hard to comprehend how cruel and barbaric the insane ideology you promote has, is, and will become once it wrestles complete power. A brainwashing is literally needed for you to see who are truly your friends and enemies. Tragic, really sad. For God's sake do some soul-searching.

  • josephwiess

    It is odd that the leftist want to defend our enemies, when they (the leftists) would be among the first people killed if our enemies took us over.

    If the 3 seals did give the terrorist a bloody lip, then that's less than what he deserved. He deserved to be flayed over an open fire and have fire ants poured down his throat.

    The facts are that the al-queda did kill 3000 americans in NYC, and has now killed another 4000 of them in iraq and afghanistan. They did attack the USS Cole, and did kill 4 Blackwater employees, and have set off bombs in the marketplaces.

    This, above all else is why Islam shouldn't be called a religion, but should be called a cult of death.

    One other thing, maybe the military should deny any reporter the right to question these scum sucking pigs and tell them, that they don't have the rights of an American citizen.

  • scarface

    Wes…come on up out of your parent's basement; take off the tinfoil hat and put down that bong ahole…idiots like you are poster boys for involuntary sterilization!!!

  • keithrage

    calm, keep calm…whisper now, 3 more years, 3 more years, 3 more years. Ahh… thats better.

  • frank002

    The only problem with that is that Bush would NEVER had done this. Only a liberal, radical, leftist, America-hating, friend of Bill Ayers, teleprompter-reading, not troop-supporting, unqualified to be president, muslim, lying POS would do this.

  • frank002

    Yes, moron, and fire cannot melt steel (Fat Rosie's words of wisdom). The planes never flew into the buildings and Clinton never had sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. The average liberal's IQ is shrinking daily.

  • frank002

    Clinton was known as bubba also, so I guess your stupid comment is to be expected.

  • frank002

    With these idiots in power, 3 years is an eternity. Think of all the damage they have done in 10 months.

    I say IMPEACH,IMPEACH,IMPEACH……..

  • BigElk

    Some people love women; some people love men. Scott Fenstermaker loves himself. He has no soul. His eyes are as empty as his soul. When one looks upon Scott Fenstermaker (as one would a snake or other crawling varmit) one sees the confused face of pure evil.

  • imgood

    Of course, you're right. Like the traitor attorney Lynne Stewart, Fenstermaker is an America-hating, terrorist-sympathising leftist, who for years has traveled to Club Gitmo to support these mass murderers.
    The problem is that even a patriotic attorney would be compelled to defend zealously these monsters. This is one of the reasons the criminal trial in civilian court is a truly bad idea. There is no good reason in the current circumstances to expose America to the additional threats that will of necessity be brought about by a civilian trial. Even assuming the best case scenario, namely that 1)no jurors or judges are terrorised or murdered by KSM's confederates, 2)that there is no terrorist attack on NYC, and 3)that the jihadists are duly convicted and executed, the trial will be an intelligence bonanza for the terrorists. Copies of documents provided to the attorneys of the terrorists who bombed the WTC and actively planned the destruction of various NYC landmarksin 1993, were found–a decade later–in a terrorist lair in Afghanistan. Chances are we will end up exposing intelligence methods, foreign and domestic intelligence agents, and numerous classified documents. This could set back our efforts to fight terrorists a decade.
    The military tribunal has a long and respected pedigree, and is the proper forum for trying these jihadists. In light of the fact that they have all admitted guilt, and asked to be martyred, we should have granted their desire. Instead, this radical jackass Holder, who has some experience in building a case for granting terrorists reprieve (see the release of the FALN terrorists around 1999), who could have salvaged some decency by resigning when his boss ordered him to carry out so irresponsible a process, has decided to be the point man for a decision that will hurt our national security. But what the hell, the European elite will approve.

  • Lary9

    datu~
    In your haste I believe you mischaracterize those who differ with you as treasonous . Although I essentially agree with Horowitz today about this fuzzy-minded attorney, I recognize that he does not rise to the status of a traitor just because he openly espouses left-wing POVs. He does so fully within the boundaries (which are wide in this Republic) of The Bill of Rights and the light of day. These values, by the way, are the main reason I put my life on the line as an enlistee back in 1965 without hesitation. You can't have it both ways–you can't live in a big-hearted country and advocate small-minded ideas. Most of us hate what the Nazi party stands for but we adamantly defend their right to assemble and act horribly up to the point of sedition. Besides, things are always safer in a transparent, open society. Fresh air is good for infections of all kinds.I won't be shocked if you disagree. But I'll be very disappointed if you do so then call me a traitor too.

  • Lary9

    >>bubba4<<
    It's not crazy. Take heart. The Constitutional bricks 'n mortar of our Nation's sub-structure is still intact in spite all the 'family' squabbling.

  • mft

    Sorry, but this is nuts. The most homicidal scum on earth is entitled to the best defense a good lawyer can mount. (Think OJ Simpson). I say this as an American outraged by the decision to give Mr. Mohammed a criminal trial, a Jew, and a lawyer.

    The good lawyer is an advocate at all times, and in all places, from the moment of retention until it ends. You can't seriously expect Mr. Fenstermaker to make public statements regarding the government's case, or his client, that are less than vigorously supportive of the defense he intends to offer,

    Fenstermaker's opening sallies may or may not presage a good defense, but nothing I've heard attributed to him thus far is outside the ethical limits of a lawyer defending someone charged with a crime in an American court. Those limits don't vary with the gravity of the offenses charged, or with the propriety of the state's choice of venue.

  • bubba4

    Yes, I was questioning the consistency…you feel that way because you were told to feel that way and you obey.

    If Bush was in office, your handlers would have told you it was the right thing to do. I'm saying you guys are blowing in the wind…and in a retarded direction I might add.

  • bubba4

    Holy smokes…dial it back a few notches. Our system allows…actually it demands that a defendant is given council. I didn't know our system of justice was a death cult.

    What's hard to comprehend is your elaborate and colorful projection onto me of this nonsense. I know it's confusing, because you are told that there is how you feel vs. “lefty”…and lefty is most of the world. But this whole dichotomy is yours by choice. I simply don't see the world through Horowitz's old-man dynamic.

    Try this…respond to the point at hand and avoid telling people what they think and feel.

  • dailyraphirmations

    I don't see why Fenstermaker is the problem. Once Holder decided that KSM was entitled to a criminal rather than military trial, then someone was going to represent him.
    FrontPage regularly features editorials by Alan Dershowitz, who volunteered to defend OJ. OJ murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.
    Neither Fenstermaker nor Dershowitz seem to care who their clients murdered.

  • VincentMVNY

    I was dumbstruck watching O'Reilly's interview with this self hating American who could not bring himself to admit that KSM is a self-confessed murderer and proud of it. He slithered and tried to hide behind the “rule of law” and “everyone deserves a vigorous defense in a court of law” argument. Thank God that O'Reilly had cajones for a change and showed him to be the low life that he is. He is the perfect representative of a Progressive who would rather see this country ruined by his preachifying rather than preseving the it.

  • BohdanUke1

    'Life on the line”….big hero. What line? I served with the 3rd Army, 7th division in Korea in '68-'69. Then Americans spit on us at the airports. Today, every person in uniform is a “hero”. One ridiculous extreme to another.

    You are simple-minded. You “adamantly” defend the American Nazi party's rights? Willing to die for their rights?

    There is a line between free speech and sedition. As long as these groups operate within the laws of our country, they should ONLY be tolerated, not embraced.

    I, for one would never offer my life for scum. Only for those Americans that cherish and love this great country as I do, would I gladly give my life.

  • Sassamon

    The only way I am going to feel better about this is if General Patton
    is resurected and rides KSM tied across the front of his jeep through
    downtown Manhattan………. I think he returned someone from Mexico
    that way once………, precedents are sometimes do-able.

  • Don

    I have a completely different take on this.

    First, it is imperative that everyone being tried in a civilian court have the best defence available to them.

    Second, it is the lawyer's job to defend his client. They are not the jury. They are not the judge. They are not the prosecutor. They are there to represent their client in the court and to argue the defendant's case to the best of their ability.

    The Justice system must remain impartial at all levels to ensure that the system remains fair and true. If we forget that, then the justice system devolves to that of a “kangaroo court”.

    Third, I actually hope that KSM is found “not guilty”. The global outrage will be stunning and the condemnation swift. And it will damn the left and the current administration.

  • Don

    I have a completely different take on this.

    First, it is imperative that everyone being tried in a civilian court have the best defence available to them.

    Second, it is the lawyer's job to defend his client. They are not the jury. They are not the judge. They are not the prosecutor. They are there to represent their client in the court and to argue the defendant's case to the best of their ability.

    The Justice system must remain impartial at all levels to ensure that the system remains fair and true. If we forget that, then the justice system devolves to that of a “kangaroo court”.

    Third, I actually hope that KSM is found “not guilty”. The global outrage will be stunning and the condemnation swift. And it will damn the left and the current administration.

  • trodaball

    Bubba, Ok, I will not try to comprehend your thought process, however don't put words in my mouth. Our judicial system is not a ” deathcult, ” Islamic terrorists and those who defend or aid them are. Our soldiers on the battlefield are not evidence gathering forensic experts who tip-toe through through cross-fire looking for ways to build a court case in the event they have to fight or capture the enemy. To give foreign fighters all the protections of an American citizen is ludicris. Our Constitution protections are provided for Americans. You cannot cite a case in our history where a foreign ememy was taken from a war theater and given a civilian trial in America. Again, your arguments are either incredibly naive or you survive on Obama's Kool-Aid. There is no good which can come out of the pending trial. Financial burden on taxpayers, propaganda, exposing state secrets are all part and parcel to this sham. Why don't you look up the disgusting conflicts of interest Atty. General Eric Holder has in this and other cases where he represents terrorists. If this doesn't bother you then you have major issues concerning national loyalties.

  • Lary9

    I hear your objections. And, yes I would defend the Nazi Party's right to free speech, but don't play stupid, you already know that. On the other hand I would defend the JDL's right as well. But we're getting 'off topic'. I was simply objecting to the trend lately of calling anybody who disagrees with you a traitor. That's downright un-American and I don't care what you think about that. It's right. Anything else is wrong.
    As far as your derisive, insulting little hate speech toward a fellow vet–F.U.. Me? USAF 4707th.TAC. I taught electronics at Keesler AFB, in Biloxi,MS. I never claimed to be anybody's hero, sir. But I freely enlisted… and I'm damned if I let anybody talk that sedition crap on my watch.

  • Lary9

    trodaball~
    I always thought that the archetypical act of treason was the one that's become synonymous with the word 'traitor'. Gen.Benedict Arnold, Washington's favorite fighting general, gave the British the ground plans for West Point so they could more effectively attack the fort. This was all during wartime while he was commandant of the very same fort! Now there's some damn treason for you! Anything that doesn't rise to this level is just political posturing.

  • Lary9

    Imagine how all the poor lefties felt during the Bush & Cheney 8-year vaudeville act. I'm not saying I believe it but— a lot of people think Bush & Cheney stole the first election in Florida and lied their way into the presidency in the second.

  • Lary9

    Thank you, mft. I don't feel so alone out here anymore.

  • Lary9

    I'm with you up to the “Not Guilty” thingee. I actually want him to get a fair trial and an impartial verdict (guilty)… along with a cruel and unusual sentence.

  • bubba4

    Holder has made it clear that all the fears every keep babbling about simply can't happen. They won't have time to give big speeches, and there will be restrictions on how the trials will be handled. It's not going to be televised or anything.

    “You cannot cite a case in our history where a foreign ememy was taken from a war theater and given a civilian trial in America”

    You can't cite a time in our history before 9/11 when a foreigner came over the killed that many innocent people without being at war with us.

  • CowboyUp

    Are you CRAZY? No, no, no, using the plane as a detonator wouldn't sequence the charges propperly, they (the CIA and Mossad, of course) wired the building to withstand the jumbo jet impact, and they RC'd the plane in to hit the propper floors. Sheese, what are you, new?

    Clintonista holder is going to show how Mossad agent Cheney took over the CIA while wild bill was flavoring his cigars, and orchestrated this whole diabolical conspiracy so we would go after those nice peaceful totalitarians over there.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

  • BS77

    They had a name for people like Fenstermaker and Finkelstein back in the 1940s…..for the self loathing far leftist appeasers and grovelling apologists for Nazis, terrorists and inhuman barbarians….KAPOS….during WW II these spineless worms actually did the bidding of the Nazis and herded their own people, their own relatives on to the death trains…into the death camps…Today you have the same filth, people without any moral directives serving the jihadists, the head cutters, the truck bombers and the mass murderers of civilians….speaking up for them in courts and in the media….Fenstermaker or whatever his rotten name is, you are on an express elevator straight to HELL.

  • BS77

    I didn't know anyone was still drinking that flavor of Kool Aid…controlled demolition…whew…..just when we thought that delusion was put to bed….here it is again. WSS25…..tis a pity.

  • trodaball

    Well you just made my point for me. Why, if they're at war with us, would they be tried in a US civilian court ? It's crazy. We don't use taxpayer dollars, give an enemy at war with us discovery and access to our confidential materials and have a jury of American ” peers ” for an Islamic terrorist who is at war with us. Also, Holder has a long history of anti-American sentiments. I find him to be as dangerous to our republic as most enemies. It's not difficult to find his rabid hatred for free-enterprise and his long held preference for a socialist state. He has no respect for individual rights, unless it works towards his agenda. He's a fraud and a traitor, just like his president, Why is this administration surrounded with self-avowed communists and leftist activists if they have American loyalties ? Answer, they don't. This whole administration is a fraud which was hailed by the accommadating major media who gave no insight or details as to Obama's past. You cannot Google his employment, education, or political history because everything about him was removed or sanitized right before the primary election. Many journalists, who were working on exposes and using the internet, were stunned to find that many reference stories they were using were suddenly gone. Try to find his college records or his Illinois senatorial records. You won't get anywhere. Why ? Due to a decades old communist infiltration, which Horowitz was a leading participant, we have allowed communists to enbed themselves throughout education, media and politics. Islam is trying and succeeding to do the same thing here today. If you can't see it you don't want to.

  • wingsnut95

    USMC Sniper, you hit the nail right on the head! The “debt” will never be paid and will always used as a tool to advance their agenda and to ensure “redistribution of wealth” will occur without impediment.

  • bubba4

    Well you just made my point for me. Why, if they're at war with us, would they be tried in a US civilian court?

    They wouldn't…but they weren't at war with us. And no country declared war before or after the attacks.

    “It's crazy. We don't use taxpayer dollars, give an enemy at war with us discovery and access to our confidential materials and have a jury of American ” peers ” for an Islamic terrorist who is at war with us.”

    Well, again, I don't see that happening…but you can have your fears.

    “Also, Holder has a long history of anti-American sentiments. I find him to be as dangerous to our republic as most enemies.”

    Yes…and so does anyone FPM doesn't like. If you honestly think the AG is a dangerous enemy of the country, then you are a paranoid fool and you deserve whatever suffering this bullshit inflicts on you.

    “Why is this administration surrounded with self-avowed communists and leftist activists if they have American loyalties?”

    Come on…who says? FPM, WorldNetDaily, FOX? If you haven't figured it out yet, these outlets are all against Obama and were long before he became President. It doesn't cost them anything to call Obama a commie or say he's not American…and they work up this whole narrative that some of you buy hook, line and sinker.

    The rest of this is just crazy. I just can't believe how throughly some of you buy this comic-book shit about it being a communist takeover. So now all the rednecks, bigots, and confused Fox viewers are all playing in some fantasy world while the rest of the world has to deal with the complex reality of modern life.

    There is no Communist infiltration. You should be more concerned about CORRUPT officials that are for sale..and a congress that has a hard time biting the hand that feeds it.

    FPM exists to plant this shit in your mind.

  • BohdanUke1

    You “hear” but don't listen. You look, but don't see. Your rants are typical of people not having a valid argument in a discourse. They simply lash out and attempt to trash the more knowledgeable person.

    The simple fact is; while I may intend to “play stupid”, you are stupid.

    Teaching electronics in Biloxi, doesn't in any conceivable way entitle you to to say, “I put my life on the line…..”. That's a slap in the face to those service men & women who actually did.

    Is that “adamant” enough for you?

  • Lary9

    Maybe he could visit the PTSD ward at Manhattan VAMC and slap a few troops in the face with his gloves.

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  • trodaball

    You are still free to believe what you want,
    But, since you can't make points without injecting profanity, vulgariteis and bigotry I'm done with you. I've done my own homework over many years, using hundreds of ref's. Time will prove all things. So, go drink your Obamunist Kool-Aid and wait for any scraps your savior might steal from me to give to you. I'm just a redneck, hatseed, Bible-thumping neanderthal who don't know nothin except spittin tabaccy 'tween me teef and waitin for a crtter to shoot from my porch. So F off you hi faluntant big know it all.

  • jackneidlinger

    If only some patriotic Marines would shoot the detainees while they were trying to escape. Those who have fought in our wars know what I mean.

  • bubba4

    Your calling our elected officials frauds and traitors and you can't take the word “shit”? Grow up.

    It doesn't take many of your posts to realize you're probably surrounded on all sides by Marxists at all times. Poor little trodaball.

    In three years, when none of your fears have materialized…when the economy has recovered and you haven't been shuffled off to a concentration camp…will that phase this fantasy? Not at all…this “Obama is a Marxist” narrative will be the whole premise behind the GOP candidate in 2012.

    I'm not sure what the Obama Kool-Aid would be? What is he suppose to have us believe? That he's an American citizen and our President?…yep I'm afraid I fell for that one…

  • Lary9

    Like so many passionate persons of the right you lack compassion. This is
    one main reason how the liberals and conservatives differ in their true
    natures. As authentic lefties become more radicalized, they become more
    compassionate toward their fellow men, regardless of ideological
    differences. It's part of the *weltanschaung *running all through their
    Enlightenment-based political philosophy. As right wingers move further to
    the right, on the other hand, they become more judgmental and angrier. Just
    feel the anger and disillusionment in this 'comments' page! As for this
    “traitor” name calling stuff, I have this to say: “At long last, sir, have
    you no decency?”
    (How good *is your* history? Name the source and context of that quote.
    Also, give me a three page, dbl. spaced paper on how it became a harbinger
    of cultural tidal waves to come in the next decade. PS: Another
    difference: Righties have no sense of humor and take themselves way too
    seriously.)

  • Lary9

    i have no idea why this text is formatted like an e.e. cummings poem. oh well. it's probably a conspiracy.
    L9

  • Lary9

    frank2~
    To quote the Clinton-meister: “I feel your pain.” (You can't see me right now but I'm biting my pouty lower lip…)

  • Lary9

    frank2~
    I resemble that statement. And I hereby challenge you to a marathon match at Trivial Pursuit, any edition. Head-to-head. Mano a mano. Put your IQ where your blog-o-meter is!

  • Lary9

    Incidentally, I was thinking about what you said about my service. It's not surprising to note that you're being unfair. When I enlisted, I didn't know how they were going to use me. I got tracked into that specialty. I didn't ask for it. Only nine graduates a year came out of that training and it seemed like a good, useful thing to do. As it turned out, it was. I used it for the rest of my life as a field engineer in data communications and banking equipment robotics…you know, ATM machines.

  • Lary9

    bubb4`
    Let 'em sweat! It's their turn to ride the bench and collect butt-splinters while a new team puts a few runs on the board. So if they can't pull for the home team just because their not pitching, maybe we should try to keep on the bench–or send 'em to the minors. L9

  • GJTryon

    It's been said that conservatives believe in Jesus but don't follow him, while the liberals follow him but don't believe in him. It now appears to be the case that this same pattern repeats itself where the US Constitution is concerned. Sheesh, people! How do any of you KNOW these guys are even guilty? Half the original gitmo crowd have been sprung because there was nothing on them. As for the culpability of lawyers in offering to defend the unsavoury accused, how would Mr. Horowitz -yes, the usually measured and fair minded Mr. Horowitz- like it if he was denied counsel because he was unpopular? Time for America to chill out, relax and pop a DVD in the player – may we suggest the classic “Twelve Angry Men”?

  • CowboyUp

    Puts a few runs on the board? It ain't a game, but if it was, you idiots are putting points on the board for the other side. How carteresque. Expect to be ridiculed for it.

    Let me know when hussein gets a concession for the home team out of one of our enemies. I'll cheer whenever hussein moves the ball forward for the “home team”, but we seem to be his only real enemy. I didn't really expect it from a 'word citizen' like hussein anyway,and he didn't 'disappoint.'

  • BohdanUke1

    You're like a cancer. You just won't let go. Go find somebody else to annoy. I have no more time for you. No more retorts.

    Get a life. Your family and friends will thank you for it.

  • CowboyUp

    Where are my handlers? I think I'm getting ripped off. Do I get my own telepromptor too? Thanks for the heads up, somebody's got some splainin to do at the VRWC. I think I'll wake someone up over there when I'm done here. How many do I get, BTW?

    I'll put their *sses to work over here, but trying to tell me what to feel is an even bigger waste of time than trying to tell me what to think. They'll give up on that pretty quick like everyone else. Are they crosstrained in housekeeping, physical training, and massage?

  • Lary9

    In other words, you're giving up? Good. Now I can get back to the original
    reason I read this blog–the very real threats to this country by home-grown
    Islamic jihadists. Remember them, Patriotboy?

  • Lary9

    Calm down, Tex. I'm on your side, ya knucklehead. What's up with you guys.
    I came here to this blog to read Horowitz on Islamic jihadists and I'm
    getting sodomized by a coven of Heritage Foundation howling wing-nuts! A
    true patriot can't get no respect anymore. Jefferson is turning over in his
    grave.

  • Lary9

    bubba~
    You're never going to break through with these guys. You're preaching to a brick wall. They'll gang-bang ya–just like they're doing to me for being sane.

  • Lary9

    Bohda…
    Hey, wait a minute! You knocked in on my 'Post' with a 'Reply'—remember?

  • Lary9

    bob_d~
    Everytime I see M. Malkin on Fox News I think of the Brides of Dracula in 'Van Helsing' the movie. I just can't help it.

  • Lary9

    wssXXV~
    The Apollo astronauts never, ever reached the moon either. I read all about it in The National Enquirer.

  • Lary9

    GJ~ I'm with you 100%, boyo!

  • Lary9

    I'll betcha after this term of office, he gets in for another 4!
    Then they'll repeal the 22nd.Amendment and re-elect him for a 3rd. term. That'll give all you Obama-Drama-Dalai-Lamas a chance to settle in and get comfortable with change.
    (And we all know 'change' is the hardest thing to accept, isn't it, John-Boy?)

  • trodaball

    Oh yes Bubba, Poor me. I'm a paranoid fool who sees a commie under every rock. Sorry Bub, unlike you I work for a living, have an active life, enjoying what freedom has to offer. I love seeing the efforts people make to help their communities and raise healthy families. In contrast, you sound like you need Obama and any gov't program where it can allow to to sit on your a$$ and eat cheetos while you lap up every word Keith Olbermann spews. You live off the Huffington Post and MSNBC. Why ? Because they tickle your ears, giving you hope that those rich people willed be shaken down so you don't have to lift a finger. Yea, you are the solution for America. A lazy slob who dreams of the day where the state can give you a way out. Politicians like B. Hussein O. are your only hope. Work is like a wooden stake in your heart, huh Bubs ? Yea, Obama has shown himself to be a fine, honest man who loves what this country was built upon : a massive gov't who controls all major industries and gives freebies to all who are dumb enough to vote for him. Power and money have never been part of his noble agenda, huh Bubs ? What made us ? Self-reliance and responsibility whenever possible, or dependance upon a gov't which has as much power and control over your life as you are willing to give it ?

  • dgene

    Well said Mr. Horowitz.

  • CowboyUp

    Lol. Yea, they were hot too. I'm sure the conversation would be much better with Mrs. Malkin, and there's daytime.

  • CowboyUp

    I'm just laughing and thanking God hussein is making it so obvious he doesn't know what he's doing. All the spin in the world can't hide it.

  • bubba4

    I run a company i built from the ground up and I work hard and pay lots of taxes.

    You're still just projecting.

  • bubba4

    Yes, I know….

  • Robert Bernier

    Wow! Read this one. It is really good. And this gentleman says it just like it is.

    This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii
    for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body, he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now. He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president.

    Consult : http://xrl.us/bgeewc

  • davorino

    Yaa you pay lots of taxes. Yipee, why not give all your money to taxes, cause your state has lots of new people arriving daily that could use your money hehehe.

  • davorino

    “Come on…who says? FPM, WorldNetDaily, FOX? If you haven't figured it out yet, these outlets are all against Obama and were long before he became President. It doesn't cost them anything to call Obama a commie or say he's not American…and they work up this whole narrative that some of you buy hook, line and sinker.”

    And CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN,…..they didnt rail against Bush constantly during his term? But those were outright truths, right? You probably believe Dan Rather was wrongly fired, right?

  • Dave

    It would predictably take a lawyer to perform treason to his community. After all, it is the legal profession which learns to obfuscate the truth.

    And, there is a truth.

  • bubba4

    “And CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN,…..they didnt rail against Bush constantly during his term? But those were outright truths, right? You probably believe Dan Rather was wrongly fired, right?”

    Well..I don't have to be saddled with one extreme or the other. Everything in this world has some bias. If you write and article, the very choice of your adjectives and sentence structure will lean a certain way…the “take” of the author.

    Bush took a lot of heat over his eight years, but you don't think his actions, policies, and words had something to do with that? Besides, he had a couple of years there were the media basically gave him a pass and helped drive the American opinion towards war.

    I think we need to draw a distinction between legitimate news outlets and opinion/editorial/punditry. They are not the same things even if some would love to blur the lines even more.

    FPM for instance is top-to-bottom opinion articles. These guys can write whatever they want. Horowitz's “Discover the Network”…he can put anything in there to. FPM isn't the only one…but some of these outlets push one consistent narrative and they hang everything on this…. US vs THEM….Capitalism vs. Communism…so someone has to take the Communist position in this false dichotomy. Awww…sorry Obama…its all yours.

    BTW: I think CBS was well within it's rights to fire Rather and he and his producer both were humiliated…but this is a different subject.

  • bubba4

    Why “Yaa” and “yipee”? Why be such a bitch…I'm not celebrating it…

    Illegal immigration is down from last year because of the economic crisis….but why would you take such glee in it?

  • falco8

    where is the tipping point? With politics, sedition….when. the problem with your fresh air analogy is that the sunlight and oxygen needed to cleanse that foot fungus itself is polluted (brain washing through education system, media, popular culture, activist judges etc…). How does the clean sun and air- clean the 80 % polluted education system, and the 95% polluted media etc…
    I really doubt these polls of increasing % against the Democrats/Obama is a sign of clear understanding of politics and ideology/worldview but more like selfish survival against the horrible economy and draconian obama taxes. Not that self survival is bad.

    God bless

  • Lary9

    falco ocho~
    Dude! it's a frakkin' metaphor. All metaphors break down under the stress of expecting them to conform rigidly with science. This isn't science. It's writing.
    I guess you're right too though—what the frak.
    L9

  • Lary9

    BigE~
    Wow! That's good. I like it!
    Why don't you try writing a screenplay? I've got start-up cash for a shop-around if it's good.

  • Lary9

    t-ball~
    I'm with bubba—dial down the volume on those hostility metaphors! Whew. You ought to get with BigElk and write a screenplay. Here's an idea to get you started:

    A bunch of evil liberals are conspiring to try and sell Alaska back to the Russians. With Sarah Palin still in it! They' want to take the profits and donate them to Acorn. But they get caught in an alley by a group of wandering Fox News panelists who open a can of righteous 'whip-a**' on them. But they start whining and give up like a bunch of New-left Nancies. So…then they…you get the drift.

  • falco8

    I agree with you concerning analogy.

  • dayly

    heyyyyyyy

  • dayly

    lol

  • dayly

    i no i just heard that same thing