The Muslim Brotherhood and Fort Hood – by Jamie Glazov


Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He is the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of the new book, Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America. He can be contacted at

FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

A terrible tragedy occurred yesterday at Ft. Hood, Texas. Because you are the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of the new book Muslim Mafia, I would like to ask you this: are there any correlations between your message in the book about the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood and the murder spree at Ft. Hood?

Gaubatz: Thanks Jamie.

Yes. The murders by Malik Nadal Hasan at Ft. Hood, TX are not a ‘lone wolf incident’ as being described by most media organizations. Hasan had been taught the ideology that is being advocated by hundreds of Islamic scholars and Imams in the U.S. We as a country can continue to deny there are numerous Islamic leaders and their supporting organizations such as CAIR, ISNA, MSA, and MANA, to name a few, who advocate killing innocent men, women, and children whom they allege ‘oppress Islam.’

How many more incidents similar to this that have been occurring in America does it take before even the media wants to report the truth? Politicians will always say or do whatever will get them their next vote in an upcoming election, but there was a time in our history when journalists reported everything and were not concerned with ‘political correctness.’

This type of journalistic reporting is dangerous and in itself is a national security issue. Journalists and their affiliated news organization are so afraid of being labeled or sued by organizations such as CAIR that they will withhold the truth from the American people. In part, the murders of innocent people are partly the fault of such journalists and politicians who support organizations such as CAIR.

FP: Your thoughts on CAIR and what happened at Ft. Hood?

Gaubatz: My team and I have conducted first-hand research at over 200 Islamic Centers in the U.S., and in various Islamic organizations such as CAIR. There is one common denominator: There is an open hatred being advocated by Islamic scholars toward Christians, Jews, and Muslims who do not adhere to ‘all aspects’ of Sharia law (Islamic law).

The materials being distributed by these scholars are very clear in their message:  violence against anyone who “oppresses” Islam is justified. It makes them subject to the punishment of death. Rifqa Bary (the 17-year-old Muslim girl who left Islam for Christianity) tried to speak out, but has been ignored. Many more Muslims have tried to speak out but the PR machine of the Muslim Brotherhood (backed by Saudi and Egyptian money) keeps them silent.

Young Muslims know what is being taught at their mosques, but have no other choice but to follow their parents and the Imams. If they try to speak out they know there are few politicians, law enforcement, lawyers, or judges who will help them. They are afraid of becoming the victims of people like Malik Hasan who will carry out the orders of the Muslim Brotherhood.

FP: Can you give us some examples of what Muslims in America are being taught and why you believe Malik Hasan was carrying out the orders of the Muslim Brotherhood?

Gaubatz: Jamie there are numerous examples. I will provide a few. Investigative journalists need to ask Imams across our country what these following statements mean and if it is likely and very possible that Muslims could use these teachings to commit acts such as occurred at Ft. Hood, Va. Tech, ‘Trolley Square” (SLC, UT), and numerous other locations.

[1] “The objective of Islamic Jihad is to put an end to the dominance of the un-Islamic systems of government and replace them with Islamic rule, Islam intends to bring about this revolution not in one country or in a few countries but in the entire world. Although initially it is the duty of every member of the Muslim party to work for revolution wherever he lives the final purpose is nothing but a world revolution. Any revolutionary ideology which upholds the good of all mankind, and is not of a mere national unit, cannot limit its horizons to those of any single country or nation.”

Book: “Come Let Us Change This World,” pp. 106–107. Author: Sayyid Abul A’la Mawdudi. Founder of Jamaat-e-Islami (The Islamic Party), a political party in Pakistan.

[2] “If you accept the whole of Islam in your life…a time will come when Communism will fear for its survival in Moscow, Capitalistic democracy will tremble for its safety in Washington and New York.”

Book: “Come Let Us Change This World,” p.83. Author: Sayyid Abul A’la Mawdudi. Founder of Jamaat-e-Islami (The Islamic Party), a political party in Pakistan.

[3] “It is learnt from this Hadith that physical jihad will continue right till the day of resurrection and will be waged as such in some part or the other of the world”. We do not deny the benefit of waging an academic and intellectual war. However, an intellectual war alone cannot be fought everywhere. There are special places and occasions for it. In short, despite waging a jihad with the tongue, pen, rationale and intellect, the Muslim community cannot be absolved of the duty of waging physical jihad.”

Pamphlet: “40 Hadith on Jihad,” pp. 21 -22. Author: Maulana Abdus Samad Siyal. Published in Pakistan.

[4] “The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land, will be that they will be killed.”

Booklet: “Duties of the Learned to Ignorant Muslims,” p. 5. Author: Abdul Qadir Oudah (Muslim Brotherhood/Egypt). Published in Pakistan.

[5] “The person who raises arms in order to curb tyranny and oppression and to eradicate evil is the blessed soul who fights in the way of Allah.”

Pamphlet: Jihad in Islam, p.15, by Abdul Hameed Siddiqi. (Jemmah Islamiyah) Published in Pakistan.

[6] “Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it.  Islam requires the earth—not just a portion, but the whole planet. Towards this end, Islam wishes to press into service all forces which can bring about a revolution and a composite term for the use of all these forces is ‘Jihad.’

Pamphlet: “Jihad in Islam,” pp.9 -10.  Syed Abul A’al Maududi (founder of JI terrorist organization).

FP: Where do Muslims get this type of material?

Gaubatz: This type of material is openly provided to Muslims across America. Islamic scholars have convinced our politicians, courts, and law enforcement that this type of material is covered under our U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment.

Americans need to determine for themselves if the calling for the destruction of our country and the safety of our children was intended by our forefathers. I believe most reasonable people would say violence advocated against innocent people was not the intention of our forefathers, thus this conclusion would leave open the debate that many current politicians are not reasonable people and/or have been ‘bought’ by professional lobbyists within CAIR and similar Muslim Brotherhood organizations. Their personal agenda is leaving our country vulnerable to attack from within.

FP: Final thoughts on the Ft. Hood tragedy?

Gaubatz: Expect more. Israel has endured ‘suicide/attacks’ similar to this for many years. Malik Nabal Hasan is a terrorist supporting the ideology of Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and yes, CAIR. In Palestine, the leaders send out the young and vulnerable to carry out the murders in the name of Islam. The same is happening in America.

Support organizations such as ACT! for America because these Americans are educating themselves about such organizations as CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. They are great people who care about our country and the innocent people worldwide. I encourage everyone to not only read the book Muslim Mafia, but to conduct their own research of the information outlined in the book. Paul Sperry did an outstanding job. Provide a copy to your local politicians and law enforcement officials and ask them what they are doing to protect innocent people in their localities from the Muslim Brotherhood ideology.

FP: Dave Gaubatz, thank you for joining us, for your courage to tell the truth, and for standing up for America.

  • Doris Wise Montrose

    Dave – Thank you for all you do. It is very important and, hopefully, before it is too late people will actually not only comprehend what is happening but will also comprehend what must be done. However, I have to correct something that is very critical that is every bit as important as the danger of islam and the muslims. That is the use of language. There is no country called Palestine. It is a geographical territory. There are no Palestinian people. No Palestinian culture. No Palestinian history. There is Gaza and there is Judea/Samaria which is also misnamed as the West Bank. There is no Palestine. To have called the Arabs in these areas Palesinians before Arafat, would have been considered an insult because Palestinians were Jews before Arafat. Arafat in his wisdom knew that if he renamed the arabs in these areas people would forget they are arabs and they would suddenly become a displaced people occupied by Israelis. For that he won a Nobel Peace Prize. The same prize, as we know, that was awarded to the current president of the United States. We will lose this war without a shot being fired by not only our foolish political (in)correctness but also by using the words of our enemies. We are legitimizing their illigitmacy. The first step toward winning this war to save our civilization is to not let them win the war of semantics.

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  • Lary9

    Ever since I can recall developing a political imagination (and that dates back to around Nov. 23, 1963) I have always been surprised how issues become politicized and equally baffled by the way in which they become aligned on the 'left-right-center' axis of political thought. For example, I wish more fellow liberals would think more clearly and support the irrefutable moral bulls-eye of the pro-life position on abortion. Another example occurs whenever we see events like the mass murders at Fort Hood. I watch; I listen. I always hope to hear the truth spoken with clarity as to motive.. But the obvious is never vetted. It just never seems to happen. And I remain a jaded liberal with unorthodox sensibilities. Lary9

  • Mach1Duck

    Dave Gaubatz, I understand that due to the CAIR law suite, the material gathered by you and your team has to be handed back to CAIR on Nov. 17. Would like to see the entire work on the internet Nov. 16. Of course this would be done by an unknown leak.

  • CowboyUp

    Wow, the article is all that and accurate too.I don't question the USA holding enemies to their agreements with us, I question when we don't. I can't see your perspective because I can't get my head up my rear.My kiss for your *ss is a size 8, now bend over.

  • Steve Chavez



    All patients who visited this obvious psycho need to be re-evalutated and de-programmed! I also hope they reveal what Hasan told them!


  • schneider19

    This article is the most hate mongering, twisted, delustional thing I have ever read. You people are idiots. Constantly putting up a divide between 'Muslims' and 'America'. Hello, there are American Muslims. “Research” like this is the one of the reasons why our stance in Iraq isn't being questioned by civilians, because if we're killing a bunch of Muslims….who cares, right? They're all evil anyway.

    Just plain stupid. You can kiss my ass.

  • swathdiver

    Islam like Communism is a form of Statism. Both represent totalitarian ideologies that seek to destroy their host countries from within. In order to defeat the Islamo-Nazis, Americans must first defeat the Communist Democrat Party and remove the Statists within the Federal Government. Only then can America effectively deal with the Islamo-Nazis putting them on the defensive and back to the 7th Century.

  • DanL

    While I agree with most of the points made in this interview, you give readers very little supporting information about why the author and interviewee believe Maj. Hasan has a direct link with Islamic jihad, other than the fact that he has been a lifelong Muslim. Other media have reported supporting information that leads me to believe you are right in your assertions, but you publish none of it. Why not?
    BTW, I worked at Fort Hood for 4 years, just 3 blocks from the shooting site. I have seen the names of friends and former coworkers in the media coverage — none dead or injured, Thank God!
    My thoughts and prayers go out to the injured and the families of the dead and injured.

  • AttentiveObserver

    For something even more hate mongering, twisted, and delusional, try reading the Koran and the Hadith. I love the muslim friends that I have worked with and known. I hate Islam with a passion. I don't think I could kiss your @$$ if I wanted too, it is planted too firmly in the chair of politically correctness.

  • AttentiveObserver

    Correction to last sentence: planted too firmly in the chair of political correctness.

  • drewsifer

    Besides blanket statements about Islam, the individual provides no proof, whatsoever, that the shooter was influence by religion. Really, the fact that he is A) a psychiatrist, who is b) administering to the US military, a job he occupied for years, sort of specifically removes him from any logical context from 'radical Islam.'

    He certainly may have been ultimately politically motivated and partially embittered by his experiences on the job (with bigotry), and may have a mental illness, but there is no more specific reason to imagine, at this stage that Islam, 'radical' or otherwise was a major factor, any more than Alcoholic Anonymous, or the Protestant faith may have been a major factor in the LA Fitness shooter's actions.

    The connections here are spurious.

  • Carterthewriter

    Where is the outrage in Congress about this subversive group. Hell, the Dems fought any attempts made to expose the harm these redical groups posed to our freedoms and to make things worse, we elect more pacifists. It just doesn't make sense!

  • hocheeman

    America and it's Imperialist cohorts can never defeat the Jihad! Once begun it has no end and America is doomed to learn the hard way! Alla Akbar!

  • sandyinohio

    Thank you for your honesty.

  • sandyinohio

    Why on earth would we want to do that? Can't handle the truth, huh?

  • Thisguy

    The quotes provided Mr. Gaubatz are from radical Pakistani and Egyptian sources- he provides zero evidence that these teachings are accepted by most American Muslims or even the majority of Muslims in Pakistan or Egypt. This is like saying because promoters of the Catholic Inquisition promoted torture, all American Catholics support torture. Those materials are freely available to everyone in the United States as well. It is intellectually lazy, unfounded, irresponsible and inflammatory. Furthermore, Mr. Gaubatz makes an unsubstantiated claim that Malik Nadal Hasan was taking orders from the Muslim Brotherhood. That might theoretically be possible, but there is no evidence of it, and none is provided above. It is clear that Mr. Gaubatz sees what he wants to see, and does not bother to wait to follow the evidence to see what the truth actually is. He is not helping our country, or the truth.

  • sandyinohio

    What happened to, and also let's revive, the House Un-American Activities Committee?! I know the House “progressives” are busy trying to take-over health care, banks, autos, and Wall St, but maybe the “bluedogs” could earn some needed respect by actually proving they are not also communists like the progressives. Just a thought…

  • Thisguy

    The quotes provided Mr. Gaubatz are from radical Pakistani and Egyptian sources- he provides zero evidence that these teachings are accepted by most American Muslims or even the majority of Muslims in Pakistan or Egypt. This is like saying because promoters of the Catholic Inquisition promoted torture, all American Catholics support torture. Those materials are freely available to everyone in the United States as well. It is intellectually lazy, unfounded, irresponsible and inflammatory. Furthermore, Mr. Gaubatz makes an unsubstantiated claim that Malik Nadal Hasan was taking orders from the Muslim Brotherhood. That might theoretically be possible, but there is no evidence of it, and none is provided above. It is clear that Mr. Gaubatz sees what he wants to see, and does not bother to wait to follow the evidence to see what the truth actually is. He is not helping our country, or the truth.

  • sandyinohio

    Don't you have something better to do? Shouldn't you stuill be “in prayers”, facing east?

  • Jaxon

    The incident at Ft. Hood was not a tragedy; it was an ATROCITY!

  • CowboyUp

    His web site might be a clue, it was full of love and peace.

  • CowboyUp

    Yea yea, we'll hear about you blowing your silly self away trying to make a bomb someday. Look up and smile, Predator is watching you.

  • CowboyUp

    If American muslims don't accept those teachings, they can turn these scumbags in before they kill a bunch of Americans.

    The inquisitors are all long dead, muslims are murdering for allah today.

  • Thisguy

    Why don't you turn in the guy living in your neighborhood, who goes to your church or synagogue or whatever who is going to commit a crime sometime soon? Oh, that's right, he didn't give you a memo telling you what he was going to do- duh

    You don't like the inquisitors example, how about this one- some dude who is in the same group as you in some way did something terrible and claimed that your group justified his actions- according to your logic you MUST agree with him and subscribe to the same twisted logic, unless you successfully read his mind, find him and turn him in first.

  • swathdiver

    Blue Dogs are gutless. HUAC was killed off by the Democrats in the late 1960s. Something like it should be brought back. Nobody should be in the Federal Government, elected or otherwise who does not actively uphold, support and defend America and the Constitution. This Islamo-Nazi should have never been allowed to wear the uniform. No Islamo-Nazis, No Commies/Statists.

  • drewsifer

    Which web site is that?

  • truebeliever208

    Where are your facts ????????????????????????????? This is option and hearsay.
    Why do you HATE America? Why are you trying to destroy America with your lies?????? Jesus said that the world would know us (Christians) by our LOVE, where is the love ??????????????

  • wanrey

    Thanks for furthering this guy's racist viewpoints along. I couldn't disagree with him more. I would assume he feels threatened by anyone who isn't Caucasian and would be able to make up crap to seem like his thoughts are reasonalbe. Get with it ignorant ass people.

  • against Islam

    America is much better then Jihad any day. why else do people from over there flock here to escape. The problem Is Too many people are more worried about being politically correct then doing what is right, which would be sending those against God back where they came from. America is one nation under God. Dont like it…there is the door. I promise, God is much bigger then allah. in fact, allah is just as dead as every other suicidal islam.

  • Deejean

    As a race Arabs are hot,I love Arabs, but islam its a religion and a military force Islam has a larger number of victims in the world then any other group of victims and we are the least represented because people are to busy dwelling in denial defending islam at all costs or to afraid not to defend islam at all costs but the fact is the Global Jihad movement has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM EVERYTHNG! TELL THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH AND STAND UP FOR THE VICTIMS OF ISLAM SO YOU CAN KNOW THE TRUTH!

  • Deejean

    Where is the love for the millions of islams victims? I warned awhile back this was comming because I got into islam before I knew about what islam was really all about ,and when I started finding out about the global jihad movement and just how many victims islam has I denounced islam but I did not stop studying researching ect, I know all about the global Jihad movement I know it very well, and this was a part of that global Jihad movement! despite all the lies that claim Islam had nothing to do with it the truth is ISLAM HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

  • Deejean

    Nobody is killing more muslims or non muslims today faster then islam and you don't care because your to busy being islams ignorant patsy! This islamic leader as so many others have as even Osama ben Laden did proclaimed “We{muslims} love death as they {humanitarians }love life!” do you know where they got that thinking? Muhammad himself the original!!! he ordered jihad and taught that muslims should love it as he did!
    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 35:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, “The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause.”

  • gerritsmith

    I got this from a London based “Harry's place” website

    As further details of the story emerge, there is increasing reason to believe that Major Hasan may well have had a religious motive for this Islamic ritual slaughter.  

    AP has reported:

    At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
    They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.

    Here is the posting in question:

    NidalHasan scribbled: There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that “IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE” and Allah (SWT) knows best.

    Then there is this from the BBC(London):

    Early on Friday the commander of the Fort Hood base, Lt Gen Robert Cone, told reporters that, according to eyewitnesses, the gunman had shouted the Arabic phrase “Allahu Akbar!” [God is great] before opening fire.

    The Telegraph reports(London):

    “He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans,” Col Lee told Fox News.
    “He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we should not be in the war in the first place.” He said that Maj Hasan said he was “happy” when a US soldier was killed in an attack on a military recruitment centre in Arkansas in June. An American convert to Islam was accused of the shootings.
    Col Lee alleged that other officers had told him that Maj Hasan had said “maybe people should strap bombs on themselves and go to Time Square” in New York.

  • Ohioan

    Very poor timing to make such profound allegations. Ought one not to investigate first? I might point out that it is not only the media that is reporting the “lone wolf” angle, but that this is coming from the Army as well (or first, actually).

  • against Islam

    hey schnieder19…bare it. I'll kick it-not kiss it. wouldn't want a disease. while I do NOT hate islamic/foriegn people, I DETEST what their religion stands for. It has NO place in America. This is OUR country. If they don't like our GOD, who, by the way is the ONLY real one, ( oh, and that would be Jesus Christ ) there's the door. I have no pity for them as they bring it on themselves. They may not like the real thing, but by choosing to be here, they do need to respect it. I have been overseas. The crap they pull here would never fly in their country. Frankly, It shouldn't here either. being politically correct is why this nation is struggling. Its so sad that they are taught Lies from birth. No one has the right to take another's life. Dont like it, TOUGH.

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  • bushlikesdick12

    scheider,You are missing the boat here. We need to hate Muslims because of the alliance with big oil, conservative Republicans, and Israel. We don't have a choice!People like the likes of Bush and Cheney need to use the far right Christians as their stooges — These fricken far right weirdo's think that they were given the divine authority to creat the State of Israel in order to fulfill prophesy. This all works too well for the conservative Jews so the alliance goes like this:far right freak Christains are stooges for Big Oil and Israel. For obvious reasons, Muslims are a threat to Israels colonial ambitions of their Holy land. You need to understand that Liberals need this as much as big oil because it keeps big oil and Israel more preoccupied on this agenda instead on something other than our domestic agenda's.If they were not giving trillions of dollars for Israel and there big oil agenda's they wouldn't be too involved in enslaving the average American.Americans need to necessary evil in order to barter with the devil

  • libral

    the army should not give easy access and infiltration to the enemy , this lack wisdom , also this is not obama mistake they are in army at the time of bush and clinton and may be before that

  • libral

    i am with bringing peacful and libral muslims to america but against allow any muslim to join the army . the fact is thier is so many good muslims and they have a good heart , so those people should not be denied . some of them coming to america to live in more free enviroment . some are running from the poverty and oppression

  • Robert Bernier

    Don't miss this video : It is unbelievable

  • shanecomeback

    Thisguy, the Inquisition was 500 years ago,we are talking about the here and NOW.Read the damn book,then make your same statement.

  • Lary9

    You're welcome. When it comes to truth we are all compelled to do no less.


  • shanecomeback

    The Inquistion was 500 years ago. We are talking about NOW.

  • dwamerican

    Schneider19 You are a stupid ignorant soal, there is no such thing as an American Muslim. Why don't you get with the program and move out of this so called country you dispise.?? I agree with just plain stupid.

  • Altoidian

    The response from our Government leaders, and the laughable response from Obama to this terror attack and his subsequent rush off to Camp David to avoid any potential “cornering” by rogue media who are not Democrat leftist little lap dogs, tells us the extent of Islamic influence on this president and majority party.

    This nation is in very deep trouble.

    The old maxim remains true; People always get the government they deserve.

  • prudentman

    The Radical Muslims have be converting our prisoners for decades resulting in the Black Panthers of the seventies with support of the Limousine Liberals in both parties as well as the Weathermen SDS subset which was the breading ground for the current administration. The “Politically Correct” ,with their infinite ignorance and cowardice, fear speaking out as they fear the media bigotry in playing the irrelevant race card.

    Why are we not defending our culture as the current war on terrorism is hell bent on destroying it starting with the destruction of the educated middle class with phony diversity? War is evil and a country's refusal to protect its citizens against that evil is not only more evil but also criminally irresponsible.

  • Deejean

    So are you really simply trying to say your the Bush? :)

  • Ohioan

    The economic middle class has faced far more danger from radical republicans than from radical Islam. In fact, under the previous administration the middle class lost out (eonomically) to the advantage of the economic elite in the highest echelons.

  • Heretic Crusader

    I hear there may be an effective medication for your disorder. It is called critical thought.

  • bushlikesdick12

    Typical response from a moron who 'wouldn''t recognize critical thinking skills if it was taught to you.

    Your Bible college doesn't permit thinking for yourself.

    You are just expose to listen to your Pastor and do what he says.

    don't concern yourself with what I write because 'being objective isn't part of your aparatus.

  • bushlikesdick12

    come on Cowboy, this sort of behavior is below you.

    You really arn't upset about this shooting are you?

    How many times have Christains shot up our post offices, schools, malls and what not.

    Maybe Timothy McVeigh is a Muslim and therefore you can rationalize your BS

  • bushlikesdick12

    Another Point

    it is estimated there is at least 2.8 million Muslims in this country.

    Add up all the “terrorist” acts in our country commited by Muslim Americans in the past 10 years and divide that by at least 4 million

    This doesn't appear to be a terrorist attack sense there are numerous accounts of him being in mental despair.

    If we accumulated all random shootings of Americans that have Christain roots and divide that by the number of Christians in our country, I wonder what that ratio would be?

    And would these acts be labeled as acts of terrorism?

  • bushlikesdick12

    Another point

    If someone in your family commited a similar act and cited Biblical text and handed out Bibles before their shooting rampage, can I hold them to the same standard as you hold Muslim Americans?

  • bushlikesdick12

    Are you saying you would gladly kill my children for not being Muslim?

    Yet you have the freedom to express your hatred in my country?

    unfortunatley for you the world understands how backwards and barbaric your thinking is.

    Nobody cares what the Koran says about killing other people.

    If the Koran said nothing about this, dipshits like you would find an excuse for this behavior somewhere else.

    Hatred doesn't need religion to exist. Religion is just a lame excuse for your primitive behavior.

    See, the general population will eventually dispose of people like you, We will limit the amount of children you can bear and we will raise your children to be loving and caring people.

    You don't have a say in it because we run the world here.

    Even your own people despise you.

  • sk

    One reason why Egyptian rulings are reported here is because THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ORIGINATED IN, AND IS BASED IN, EGYPT! Furthermore, the main Muslim groups in America are associated with THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, with CAIR as Exhibit A. Pakistan and pre-liberation Afghanistan were prominent bases for jihad, funded largely by Saudi and Emirate money.

    Anyway, everything quoted here is consistent with doctrinally correct Islam, as spelled out in the Koran, Hadith, and Sira.

  • VN_Vet

    Critical thinking is definitely not one of your strong suits bozo. I completely agree with the two psycho-analysts over the last year who have said that liberalism (leftism) is a form of insanity. Absolutely, and you're a poster child. To say it more clearly, you're a crazy and a danger to society.

  • VN_Vet

    hocheeman is obviously counting on the democ-rats staying in power. The Islamists will be defeated nevertheless, but the number of innocent American citizens who will be killed in the war will be determined by how much power the democ-rats retain. The more power the democ-rats retain, the more citizens will be killed before the jihadists are exterminated.

  • VN_Vet

    “He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans,” Col Lee told Fox News. “He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we should not be in the war in the first place.” He said that Maj Hasan said he was “happy” when a US soldier was killed in an attack on a military recruitment centre in Arkansas in June.”

    Sounds like he could have been influenced by Michael Moore-on, Pelosi, Reid, Murtha, Boxer, NBC, CBS, ABC, NPR, PBS, CNN, MSLSD, Washington Compost, NY Slimes, Media Matters, Daily Kos, MorOn.ugh, and the rest of the leftist party and kooks in the U.S. as much as the Muslim Brotherhood.

  • peteentz

    Awhile ago I sent an email to our police force and border patrol because I was concerned about a person who comes to Canada and teach Muslims due to hid belief.
    Here is a copy of that email and I have included a copy of the response from our border patrol – This realy concerns me.
    I am not reporting a crime as such, plus I am not a racist or against any religion. Every person should have the right to belong to whatever religion they want too, but I do have a concern when a person like Mufti Ebrahim Desai comes to Canada to teach his beilefs, because he believes and teaches that anyone who leaves islam should be executed. I quote from his own answer. QUOTE:This law of executing the renegade is a unanimously accepted rule according to all Muslims. UNQUOTE
    Here is the URL that has his answer regarding someone that leaves Islam
    So my question is. Why would someone who teaches the death penaly for leaving a religion even be allowed to come to Canada and bring such a grave teaching to our country?
    Here is the URL that says he has been visiting the US and Canada.
    Mufti Ebrahim Desai (db) also has been visiting the US & Canada for the past 10 years in an effort to educate and revive the Islamic spirit among the Muslims here.

    This is a response to your e-mail inquiring about who is allowed into
    Canada; specifically, why an individual who openly expresses his belief
    to execute those who choose to leave the Islamic faith would be
    authorized entry into Canada.

    According to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, all foreign
    nationals who seek to enter Canada must meet the requirements of the Act
    and not be inadmissible to Canada. A foreign national may be found
    inadmissible to Canada on the grounds of security, human or
    international rights violations, criminality, organized crime, health,
    financial reasons, misrepresentation, an inadmissible family member, or
    non-compliance with the Act. When a person arrives at a port of entry in
    Canada, they are protected under the Canadian Charter of Rights and
    Freedoms, and as such, they are subject to the fundamental right of
    freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression. As a result, while
    you may disagree with Mr. Desai's beliefs and teachings, he cannot be
    found inadmissible to Canada solely for them.

    The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) appreciates and understands
    your concerns, and we take seriously our commitment to provide
    high-quality service to travellers while ensuring that Canadian society
    is protected through the responsible enforcement of our laws. Our Agency
    plays an important role in the law enforcement community, as border
    services officers are uniquely positioned to interview travellers and
    importers and to examine personal and commercial goods entering and
    leaving Canada. The challenge of our mandate is to ensure that only
    admissible people and goods have access to Canada.

    We trust that this information is helpful. Thank you for contacting the


    Canada Border Services Agency
    Ottawa, ON K1A 0L8

    Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada

  • hocheeman

    You talk of elimination of people like some computer game. How sad you are. Both parties are the same so please do not associate me with either one, they are both for unlimited war and imperialistic invasion of third world countries for profit. The IMF and World Bank will be pushing both parties to keep the fire burning so the profits of war and mayhem can keep coming into the coffers of the few rich that rule this country. Your views of the situation is being carried out by Obama and you have just chosen him as a scapegoat. No one is going to help America now. We are down the rabbit hole and sinking fast and if nuclear war does not do us in, capitalism surely will and both parties are for all that. I am a Marxist Communist and I have faith in political parties in the USA. Of course I do not vote except for Socialist Labor and there are no candidates in my area of the country. You are the one that is married to the political system and take a look at where it got us!

  • davarino

    Bam, and there it is, Hoch is a commie. Ya like I didnt already know that hehe. You even sound like a true believer. So you are rooting for the enemy, and your hope is that they destroy all western countries, and then world communism takes over. Yeah then communism can finally show how well it works without all those evil capitalists. Only this time you have to figure out how to defeat islam once they have taken over….hmm havent figured that one out yet, but hey you'll deal with that when the time comes, right.
    So world communism wont be like before, right Hoch. You guys wont be totalitarians like Stalin, Mao, Castro….they were bad guys, or maybe you do like them, I dont know. What brand of communism would you prefer? You would be nice to us, right, and guarantee our freedoms like we do yours?

  • aspacia

    Wake-up U.S.A. I am fighting this PC battle as a high school English teacher, but too many stick their heads in the sand.

  • Deejean

    As usual the mindless zombies of the “Defend islam at all costs Brigade” don't bother to know or care that ISLAM is torturing and killing more men women and children in Iraq, then all western allied forces combined, Which is why Iraqi Muslims are denouncing islam and becoming ATHIESTS!!!

  • Deejean

    I am saying islam would more then gladly kill your children, burn them alive torture them enslave them oppress them and all other manor of evil
    And I can't for the life of me understand why you would lick its boots for it! You already lick islams boots for slaughtering other peoples children so what would make you stop if or when it comes for yours? Islam in its own words, tell of how it intends to dominate or kill you and your children bother to get to know what your defending and don't just be a mindless zombie for islam helping it oppress and kill! STAND UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FIRST not the ancient dead barbarians from HELL!!!

  • prudentman

    More? Danger? Hyperbole! Where are your facts? I doubt you have any
    proof of that considering that 2007 our country showed its second greatest
    economic growth ever. That aside, politicians do not create economic growth
    as they are parasites not contributors to wealth.

    The greatest threat to the middle class is the continuous re-election of
    politicians from all parties who, even if clean when entering office, become
    corrupt by pork barrel and log rolling politicians. I know they don't teach
    Civics in schools today but Congress makes our laws yet they are not
    restrict by Congressional Term Limits which the Left/Right,
    Conservative/Liberals are silent about.

    As long as people like yourself play partisanship our government will
    continue to grow at the cost to the middle class. The political class and
    professional politicians spend all of their time on raising money from
    special interest, regardless of political party. Wouldn't making the RNC
    and DNC illegal and making all elections non-partisan be refreshing?

    I would hope that you would be more objective. Radical Republicans; too
    much time getting your information from T.V.? Get a life. Is supporting
    Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom of Expression and Free
    Enterprise “Radical”? You must be confusing the people who have these
    values with the Crony Capitalists on Wall Street who get fees from our ever
    expanding debt and, therefore, contribute heavily to collectivists like
    Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who learned his corruption from sitting on his
    father's need.

    If you ever have a fact I would like to see it. Your opinion, like my own,
    is really worthless.

    CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS NOW – That is truly non-partisan and necessary for
    Freedom and Liberty!!

  • Deejean

  • hocheeman

    You are right about Stalinism. That went against Marx and caused a breach that was crushed by a cruel army. The peasants were no better off under him either. Hardship must come under communism as the old is done away with. Cuba is the best example of a successful Marxist revolution. It came at a time of the Red Scare in America so it got a bad name. Che Guevara must be applauded for much work in forming the revolutionary party in Cuba but America could not have him continue because he was too smart. Murder was the solution by one of the military or CIA operatives that infiltrated the movement. Che had spread his influence to Boliva and that is where he met his end. They were in a turmoil with the military that was heavily financed by America.
    As far as revolution here. Probably not in my lifetime. I am 68 but that is all right. The fever for revolution is moving now in many third world countries and it is going to be a world movement. America will not be able to cover all the guerilla wars raging right now. They are called something else by the corporate press though. America must not know that capitalism is failing in the world and Marxism holds hope for the masses who have no food or medical attention and many survive for a time on dollars per year! America is too well off and too insulated by the greatest military in history and can put down insurrections with ease. However if we are plunged into a complete fall out economically i.e. depression that could hold some promise. Revolutions cannot be predicted. Conditions must occur that make them inevitable. Too many for this format to illustrate. It can get very complex. Dialectical Materialism is what Marx called it and it was a bit of genius. It is all based on a scientific theory that is playing out right now in the world. Capitalism is helping it a lot because the benefits are not for the workers or peasants in the economy. I will say being a communist helps me understand a lot of what is going on and allows me to take a sober look at it all. Being a teacher is my trade, retired now. Good day.

  • Deejean

    Even Sunni and Shia muslims in Pakistan know the house of Saud and the Muslim brother hood, Whabbi muslims Are killing torturing and oppressing more muslims then anyone else in the world.Just thought I'd share with the forum what has been going on for the past several months.<a href="…..<br />SOME COMMENTS:Tooty Frooty:I watched the video yesterday…Its heartbreaking and dissapointing to see the government do nothing about it!…May God bless these martyrs and give patience to their families and the whole parachinar community who are suffering at the hands of these oppressors.Morq:The tribal areas needs to be under martial rule, and militants needs to be chased till death or put forth on trial. this cannot be acceptable, not becouse they are shias, but becouse they are pakistanis and human beeings!!Safir:It is really sad to see that we Muslims have become such butchers. These people claim to be Muslims but do everything which is against the teachings of Islam. Its a shame. No wonder Muslims are being portrayed as terrorists and lawless people all over the world. I think its about time that all these so called radical religious parties are banned.

  • bestpricemoving

    The country is more important than religion, we should think about our country first..

  • Deejean

    islam supporters PLEASE STOP supporting the slaughter of muslims by the house of islam!!!

    Genocide of Shias in pakistan
    Parachinar Massacre of Innocent Shias and Sunnis: Designed and Implemented by Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba and ISI

  • Deejean

    Did islam suck all of your capacity for self thinking out? Jesus never killed anyone he never raped anyone he never molested or enslaved anyone and he did not torture anyone, Muhammad did all those things and more and islam makes him god, And every single muslim in this world is to base there entire belief system and personality on Muhammad.
    Sure there are good people who happen to claim to be muslim but , They sure don't really follow islam! Please don't support islams genocides all over the world!!!

    Genocide of Shias in pakistan

    Parachinar Massacre of Innocent Shias and Sunnis: Designed and Implemented by Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba and ISI

  • Deejean

    Please islam supporters stop the brutal slaughter of muslims by the house of islam!

  • bushlikesdick12

    No, Jesus never did those things and I doubt Mohamad did either.

    Even if either one did that doesn't condone such behavior.

    But that isn't the queston here. We are trying decipher what the motive was behind the shooting.

    Was Hasan dispondent like millions of other Americans that have commited similar acts from shooting up schools to goint postal?

    To say one is licking the boots of Islam for asking these questions and asserting ones position is crazy.

  • bushlikesdick12

    Go back to your cross dressing hobby Sniper.

    Wheres your retired Mother?

  • bushlikesdick12

    You just need to accept that Islam is here to say and you're just gonna have to learn to play with others. Sorry to have to tell you that

  • bushlikesdick12

    There may come a day when Islamic terrorists will commit such a hedious act of terrorism in our country that will cause Islam to be illegal.

    Untill that day comes, they have the same rights you do so get use to it.

  • bushlikesdick12

    re:”our government will
    continue to grow at the cost to the middle class”

    Socialism usually creates a middle class through redistribution of wealth.

    Unfortunately, yesterday congress passed this health care plan that will require me to pay a premium to offset medical costs for people who don't phyically take care of themselves.

    It takes money from the wealthiest and distributes it to the very poorest.

    This levels the economic class.

    We live in a two party democracy and one offsets the other. Eventually conservatives will regain the house and we will be undoing much of what is being set in place today.

    The cycle continues.

  • LindaRivera

    Our survival is threatened. Our freedom is in danger. It is absolutely vital that America, Canada, Australia, Israel and other Western countries examine the results of Muslim immigration in Europe and the UK. Muslim ‘religion’ and culture is radically different from Western civilization.

    Open Your Eyes, SWEDEN

    Muslims In Belgium

    Spain is the land of Islam

    The fruit of Islam in Europe 2. Awake up Europe

    Europastan: The Islamic Future of Europe

    In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: “2030-then we take over”

    “One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
    —Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.

    So much suffering of innocents. It is overwhelming. See:

  • davarino

    Oh dialectical materialism, why didnt you say so. Dude I am so into that, snicker. I am sure that will be so much better than past communism. But of course there will still need to be the unfortunate purging/mass murder that is necassary to root out the undesirables.

    Well maybe your comrad in the White House will help bring about the world communism you hope for, cause all us disenfranchized, down trodden here in America are ready for that kind of change.

    Dude you got a nickel? : (

  • mouthbreather

    I contend that the anti Bush rhetoric driven for political gain also played a major role in this and other such “lone wolf” scenarios.

    The constant drum of political division in this country is a crucial part of this tragedy.
    Many in Washington did their part to ferment this anti American (Bush) sentiment.
    It galvanized a consensus that our countries actions were dishonest and malicious in nature.
    As a parent of soldiers in harms way I can honestly say that I feel betrayed by these parties and will NEVER forgive them for what they've blindly created.

  • christopherkoller

    Lots of right-wing fundamentalist Christian leaders teach hate, and advocate murder. It doesn't mean the average adherant to these religions becomes a terrorist.
    The reasoning is faulty, and Gaubatz' point of view of is racist and bigoted.

  • phillyfanatic

    Gen. Casey is too caught up in PC baloney to realize the military has a horrid problem of Muslims who could be a 5th Column. When I see the Muslim American community stand up and without apology blast each and every jihadist outrage, I will simply not trust their croc tears. I am sick and tired of the Left portraying this murderer as a lone nut who was just like an abortion doctor killer. Morally equating is a trick of the Left on almost every issue. Well, there is not a huge amount of abortion doctor killers (in fact killing 1 million kids seems far worse) but boy howdy round the globe, the jihadists are knocking off people in the thousands. Will America learn the lesson of Britain, France and Germany as Muslims swarm into those nations demanding Sharia law, madrasses and other perks? If we do, we will not give into this PC baloney that the Left wants us to practice on murderous Islamofascists.

  • davarino

    Let me boil it down for you so you can understand it. The Koran teaches death, destruction, Jihad to the unbeliever. The Bible does not, big difference. Of course the inquisition was an aberation, a twisting of the Bible. The islamofascists are not twisting the Koran, its actually in there.

    There, that wasnt so hard now was it?

  • VN_Vet

    I guarantee that if you pull your head out of your ass and clean the shit out of your eyes, the oxygen will return to your brain and you will see more clearly that you are an f***ing idiot.