The Yemeni Koran – by Jamie Glazov

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Frontpage Interview’s guests today are Robert Spencer and Moorthy Muthuswamy.

Moorthy Muthuswamy is an expert on terrorism in India. He grew up in India, where he had firsthand experience with political Islam and jihad. He moved to America in 1984 to pursue graduate studies. In 1992, he received a doctorate in nuclear physics from Stony Brook University, New York. Since 1999 he has extensively published ideas on neutralizing political Islam’s terror war as it is imposed on unbelievers. He is the author of the new book, Defeating Political Islam: The New Cold War.

Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch, a program of the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He is the author of nine books on Islam and Jihad, a weekly columnist for Human Events and Frontpagemag.com, and has led numerous seminars for the U.S. military and intelligence communities. He is the author of the new book, The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran.

FP: Moorthy Muthuswamy and Robert Spencer, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

I’d like to talk to both of you today about the Yemeni Koran.

Moorthy Muthuswamy, let’s begin with you. Tell us about this Yemeni Koran and what it signifies.

Muthuswamy: Thank you for the opportunity, Jamie. First, some background.

In 1972, during the restoration of the Great Mosque of Sana’a, in Yemen, a gravesite containing a mash of old parchment pages was discovered. It became clear that this parchment hoard is an example of what is sometimes referred to as a “paper grave.” In this case, the site was the resting place for tens of thousands of fragments from close to a thousand different parchment codices of the Koran, the Muslim holy book.

Using a technique called “carbon dating,” some of the parchment pages in the Yemeni hoard were dated back to the seventh and eighth centuries, or Islam’s first two centuries. Until now, three ancient copies of the Koran were said to exist. One copy in the Library of Tashkent in Uzbekistan, and another in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey, date from the eighth century. A copy kept in the British Library in London dates from the late seventh century. But the Sana’a parchment pages are even older. Moreover, these pages are written in a script that originates from the Hijaz—the region of Arabia where the prophet Muhammad purportedly lived. This makes the Yemeni Korans not only the oldest to have survived, but one of the earliest copies of the Koran ever.

In 1981, the first scientific undertaking to study the Yemeni Koran was initiated by a group headed by Gerd-R. Puin, a specialist in Arabic calligraphy and Koranic paleography based at Saarland University, in Saarbrücken, Germany. Puin and his group recognized the antiquity of some of the parchment fragments. Their preliminary inspection revealed unconventional verse orderings, minor textual variations, and rare styles of orthography and artistic embellishment. Interestingly, some of the sheets were also palimpsests—versions very clearly written over even earlier, washed-off or erased versions.

To quote Puin: “So many Muslims have this belief that everything between the two covers of the Koran is just God’s unaltered word… They like to quote the textual work that shows that the Bible has a history and did not fall straight out of the sky, but until now the Koran has been out of this discussion. The only way to break through this wall is to prove that the Koran has a history too. The Sana’a fragments will help us to do this.”

The idea that the Koran is the literal Word of God, perfect, timeless, and permanent, is crucial to Islam, in particular, to the Islamists at the forefront of spreading sharia and jihad. However, some of the Sana’a fragments revealed small but intriguing aberrations from the standard Koranic text. Indeed, this evidence compels one to conclude that the Muslim holy book has undergone a textual evolution rather than simply the Word of God as revealed in its entirety to the Prophet Muhammad in the seventh century.

This explosive ramification has made the State of Yemen reluctant to give further access to the Sana’a fragments. Fortunately, before the door was shut to Western scholars, another German academic, Graf von Bothmer, made 35,000 microfilm pictures of the fragments, which remain at the University of the Saarland.

FP: Robert Spencer, so the Yemeni Koran points to the fact that the Muslim holy book has undergone a textual evolution. Give us your view of the meaning and significance here.

Spencer: Moorthy is quite right: the idea that the Koran is perfect and uncreated, with no textual variants, is central to Islamic proselytizing. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) says the Koran “was memorized by Muhammad and then dictated to his companions. The text of the Qur’an was cross-checked during the life of the Prophet. The 114 chapters of the Qur’an have remained unchanged through the centuries.” This idea is also central to the worldview of jihadist groups. Osama bin Laden bragged in his 2002 letter to the American people that the Koran “will remain preserved and unchanged, after the other Divine books and messages have been changed. The Qur’an is the miracle until the Day of Judgment.”

The textual variants in the Yemeni Koran, simply by showing that the text is not always and everywhere the same, explode the mainstream Islamic belief that the Koran was delivered in perfect form to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel, and has always been miraculously preserved from variant readings.

Yet oddly enough, early Islamic traditions recorded in the Hadith assume the existence of variant readings of the Koran. The impetus for collecting Muhammad’s revelations into a single volume came after Muhammad and other important early Muslims started dying off. Late in the year Muhammad died, 632, a group of Arab tribes that Muhammad had conquered and brought into the Muslim fold revolted. The first caliph, Abu Bakr, led the Muslims into battle to subdue them.

The two sides met in the Battle of Yamama, in which some of the Muslims who had memorized segments of the Koran were killed. One Islamic tradition notes that “many (of the passages) of the Qur’an that were sent down were known by those who died on the day of Yamama…but they were not known (by those who) survived them, nor were they written down, nor had [the first three caliphs] Abu Bakr, Umar or Uthman (by that time) collected the Qur’an, nor were they found with even one (person) after them.” Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif )

The official compiler of the Koran, Zaid ibn Thabit, explained that he “started locating Quranic material and collecting it from parchments, scapula, leaf-stalks of date palms and from the memories of men (who knew it by heart). I found with Khuzaima two Verses of Surat-at-Tauba which I had not found with anybody else.” Zaid’s recollection testifies to the ad hoc nature of his work. For example, it was Khuzaima himself, Zaid’s sole source for the last two verses of sura 9, who approached Zaid and informed him of the omission: “I see you have overlooked (two) verses and have not written them.” When he had recited them, an influential companion of Muhammad and the future third caliph, Utman, declared, “I bear witness that these verses are from Allah.” And so they were included in the Koran (9:128-129).

Other sections of the Koran, some mandating stringent punishments for unbelievers and other violators of Islamic law, were lost altogether. One early Muslim declared, “Let none of you say, ‘I have acquired the whole of the Qur’an.’ How does he know what all of it is when much of the Qur’an has disappeared? Rather let him say ‘I have acquired what has survived’” (As-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur’an ). Other Koranic verses dropped out of the text without replacement. One of these stated, “The religion with Allah is al-Hanifiyyah (the Upright Way) rather than that of the Jews or the Christians, and those who do good will not go unrewarded.” Al-Tirmidhi, the compiler of one of the six collections of Hadith, or Islamic traditions, that Muslims consider to be the most reliable, said that this verse was at one time part of sura 98. It is not found there, however, in Zaid’s canonical version.

FP: Moorthy Muthuswamy?

Muthuswamy: The importance of the Yemeni Koran is that it was an independent discovery; it physically exists and is distinct from the Islamic doctrines presently in use.

Political Islam faces ideological difficulties with the likes of the Sana’a fragments pointing to the textual evolution of the Koran. Furthermore, as Robert insightfully observes, other inconsistencies in the contemporary Koran and the Hadith accentuate these difficulties.

The challenge ahead lies in utilizing this breach to decisively break the back of Islamic radicalism.

Whether it is the latest, in the form of the Fort Hood massacre or the previous 9/11 attacks, there is one common theme: the armed jihads were carried out by mosque-going pious Muslim men who claimed to be driven by Islamic doctrines.

Recently, much progress has been achieved by applying statistical analysis to the Islamic doctrines themselves in order to understand why pious Muslims are waging jihad on unbelievers. Specifically, we now understand that about sixty-one percent of the contents of the Koran are found to speak ill of unbelievers or call for their violent conquest; at best only 2.6 percent of the verses of the Koran are noted to show goodwill toward humanity. Get this: about seventy five percent of Muhammad’s biography (Sira) consists of jihad waged on unbelievers.

While there might be some subjectivity to the above analysis, the overwhelming thrust of the inferences should be noted. Moreover, this overall thrust exposes the sheer absurdity of excusing the Koran-inspired terror on the so-called “selective interpretation” of the Muslim holy book or its “verses being taken out of context.”

Additionally, there is the sharia—the so-called Islamic Law, legitimized by the Koran. The medieval sharia has stifled development and integration of Muslim communities, and has indirectly helped channel Muslim energies toward the outlet of jihad.

Let us discuss the evolution of Major Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood jihadist. Consider a hypothetical scenario: the majority of the worshippers in the mosques Hasan attended believed that the Koran couldn’t be taken literally; that that there are many mainstream Islamic sites that emphasized the textual evolution of the Muslim holy book. What would have happed? It is very unlikely that Hasan would have given the pro-jihad seminar (the precursor to the Fort Hood massacre) in Walter Reed Medical Center.

Unfortunately, reality is just the opposite. Saudi-funded Wahhabi ideologies that emphasize the literal interpretation of the Koran have played a longstanding role at grievously influencing most American mosque goers.

An April 2001 survey by CAIR found 69 percent of Muslims in America saying it is “absolutely fundamental” or “very important” to have Salafi (similar to radical Wahhabi Islamic ideology) teachings at their mosques (67 percent of respondents also expressed agreement with the statement “America is an immoral, corrupt society”). The Internet-based mainstream Islamic portals too, almost without exception, preach radical ideologies, backed by the Muslim holy book.

Based on the above analysis we can unequivocally state that the Koran, through its contents and their literal interpretations, acts as an albatross around the neck of Muslim communities. Yet, our national security policy in its various incarnations builds on the fundamentally flawed assumption that the Koran is a constructive element in the lives of Muslims.

The challenge of mitigating the radical Islamic threat indeed comes down to questioning the very basis that the Koran is the Word of God.

The Yemeni Koran, backed by Koranic inconsistencies might provide a fresh impetus in this direction.

FP: Robert Spencer, final thoughts?

Spencer: Moorthy is right. PowerPoint slides on which Hasan proposed to show “what the Koran inculcates in the minds of Muslims and the potential implications this may have for the U.S. military” have come to light. The implications are many, and important.

Hasan makes the case that Muslims must not fight against other Muslims (as is mandated by Koran 4:92), and that the Koran also mandates both defensive and offensive jihad against unbelievers, in order to impose upon those unbelievers the hegemony of Islamic law. He quotes the Koranic verse calling for war against the “People of the Book” (that is, mainly Jews and Christians) until they “pay the tax in acknowledgment of [Islamic] superiority and they are in a state of subjection” (9:29).

Hasan seems then to have been telling the assembled (and no doubt stunned) physicians that Muslims had a religious obligation to make war against and subjugate non-Muslims as inferiors under their rule.   But surely that is “extremist” Islam, no? No. Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Assistant Professor on the Faculty of Shari’ah and Law of the International Islamic University in Islamabad, in a book on Islamic law explains that “Muslim jurists agreed that the purpose of fighting with the People of the Book…is one of two things: it is either their conversion to Islam or the payment of jizyah.” (Jizyah is the tax referred to in Koran 9:29.)

Nyazee concludes: “This leaves no doubt that the primary goal of the Muslim community, in the eyes of its jurists, is to spread the word of Allah through jihad, and the option of poll-tax [jizya] is to be exercised only after subjugation” of non-Muslims.”

Likewise Majid Khadduri, an internationally renowned Iraqi scholar of Islamic law, explained in his 1955 book War and Peace in the Law of Islam that “the Islamic state, whose principal function was to put God’s law into practice, sought to establish Islam as the dominant reigning ideology over the entire world….The jihad was therefore employed as an instrument for both the universalization of religion and the establishment of an imperial world state.”

And Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini put it this way: “Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled or incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world….But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world….There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

Hasan’s Islam also coincides with that of the jihad terror group Hamas, which has announced its intention, once fully and firmly ensconced in power, to collect that Koranic tax – jizyah – from the non-Muslims luckless enough to live within its domains. Hasan would also no doubt find heads nodding in agreement with his explanation of Islam among the Muslim Brotherhood, the international Islamic organization (which operates under a variety of names in the United States) that is dedicated in its own words to a “grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”

No one in government or law enforcement has ever made any attempt to determine how prevalent such understandings of Islam are among Muslims in the United States. But if they are not Nidal Hasan’s eccentricities, but indeed mainstream views of Islam, it would be of cardinal importance for those sworn to protect us to begin making such an attempt now. The lives of innocent people depend on it. As Moorthy explained, the Yemeni Koran could help provide a way.

FP: Moorthy Muthuswamy and Robert Spencer, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.

  • goosebumps

    What is amazing to me is that there are still so many people in America who just don't get it. I can understand Spencer's frustration when he says he would spit on anyone who says “I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.” I, too, feel a loss of respect for people who unquestioningly have bought into the whole PC crap and think through this tunnel vision of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. They are our modern day “Moonies.”
    I think our government right now is so transfixed by all the power they have and all the “wonderful” things they are going to do for (to) us that the Islamic happenings throughout the world are minor, minor, minor. They are letting the Muslims create the next crisis that they will not let “go to waste.” They are so drunk with power that that is all they can do. If I hear Nancy Pelosi say the words “for the people” again I will absolutely vomit and send it to her.
    I think our next government in 2010 had better be one that has all the blinders off and has the “balls” (regardless of the sex of the person) to take the bull by the horns and out our American foot down hard on these idiots who follow this ridiculous religion, this band of mankind.

  • samnigromd

    Thank you for the elaboration. It is about time the word gets out about this. Every one needs to know the facts in The Infidels' Guide to the Koran….Hopefully soon, Islam will stop waging war with the rest of the world….

  • Yephora

    Thank you for this enlightening interview. Now what are we in the West supposed to do about the cancer of Political Correctness that has paralyzed the actions of those whose job it is to protect us? Their PC sickness makes them incapable of accepting such information — nevermind actually doing something strategic with it.

  • pwood20

    If only all those politicians and others calling Islam a “religion of peace” would read the Koran and not in the edited version given out by CAIR, the would not be making such statements. Find an older copy, not one of the new sanitized versions destributed in the United States.

  • ciccio

    The bad thing about the Yemeni koran is that it is surrounded by so much controversy that Yemen no longer allows anyone to even look at it. It is stored in totally inadequate conditions, there is not even a smoke alarm in the building, it is well likely that one of these days there will be an “accident” and the whole place will go up in flames.

    The good thing is that when this hoard was discovered, the Yemeni government had neither a clue on how to investigate it or the funds to do so. They got German and other European experts who carefully separated each scrap and photographed them, sent all the films straight back to Europe where they are still working on it. In time the truth will come out, knowing Islam their truth will be another crusader plot against their beloved prophet.

  • shadeeelmasry

    As someone whose profession it is to study Islam academically, this article is lacking for a number of reasons.

    1. None of the commentators seem to be specialists in Islam.

    2. I see no reference to what Muslim scholars have to say. A reliable article must explore every angle.

    3. All Muslims know that there are variants of the Quran, that some words are different. That before the different recitations were codified, there were “seven ahruf.”

    4. Let us say the Yemeni Quran has different verse order, or new verses altogether. The article does not tell us how they alter the message of the Quran, if at all. That is important, because, beyond the words and letters, it is the message that is important.

    5. I do not see how the Yemeni Quran has any link to terrorism or Major Nidal Hassan.

  • davorino

    Ya, we want to get the message straight. Forget about the variations, the message is what is important. Just so we're clear on the message, it is “kill the unbelievers”, right? We wouldnt want to lose sight of the beautiful message of the religion of peace.

    You do understand that the article was intended to show that the koran has not remained the same since the beginning, which indicates that it is not from god. Oh I understand that the only way to correctly read the koran is to have a muslim scholar tell you what it says, but I would rather have an unbiased reading of the koran, thank you.

  • DemocracyFirst

    In fact, the article quotes Muslim scholars. You can go to their sources directly where, I am sure, you will verify the accuracy of the quotes.

    It is tragically fact that Islam is fundamentally a religion of war, violence and the subjugation of women and non Muslims. Which is why everywhere on this planet that Muslim nations border on non Muslim nations there is active or simmering war. It is why wherever a sizeable Muslim minority lives, there is active or simmering civil war. It is why Muslim women are subjugated almost everywhere.

    But this article provides hope. If Muslims come to generally believe the Koran is not the precise word of Allah, that it has been changed by people, then the door opens to further revisions and more creditable, if rationalized, interperations of time and context. Thus, those who say the violent passages refer only to Saudi Arabia of the 6th and 7th centuries, rather than apply forever into the future until all the world is Muslim, can reform the faith.

  • jjr153

    Muslim + Scholar = Oxymoron or just plain moron

  • Davidka

    A fascinating account. No doubt due to the enormous implications of the Yemeni discovery, the mainstream media have totally ignored the story. What to make of the “perfect, unchangeable” Koran when competing versions start cropping up? The discovery has the potential to undercut extreme Islam. It offers an opening for sane Moslems to push for a human, decent version of their faith.

    Right now, it is extremely important that the scholarly community demand that copies of the whole set of documents be made available to everyone. It would be an easy task to put the whole archive online. This would enormously speed up the task of analyzing, translating and studying the documents. And their implications.

  • ciccio

    Would be a good idea David were it not for the fact that 96% of all Islamic scholars are die-hard Islamists and of the other 4%,, 80% have been bought and paid for by the Saudis and their ilk. Just about every major Western University has a department of Islamic studies that is funded by them, any lone dissenting voice would be so quickly and loudly shouted down that barely a squeak would be heard.

  • jonnyfromspace

    I have purchased the works of all of you three scholars thank you for the work you are doing.

    Avid reader, Philosophy student, from Toronto Canada.

    The irony is that the western world is dealing with islamic terrorist acts which target innocent civilians just like Israel has been faced with since its inception as a sovereign state (and before).

  • rnot

    If our government (CIA/FBI, military/Pentagon, politicians and religious leaders won't read the current koran and Sharia laws, what makes anyone think they will read this one? Even with what we have they won't read it and figure out WHY Muslims do what they do and WHY they are a security risk and WHY they lie, etc There are so many WHYs!

    Right now we have a Muslim president putting Muslims who are for Sharia laws in our government that we have a big problem just with what we have. Yeah – tell me he isn't a Muslim and I can provide more proof that he is so don't even go there with me!

  • Davidka

    In response to Ciccio's and other comments: Yes, it is true that the vast majority of scholars of Islam are extremists or bought-and-paid-for whores. However, there are some scholars of integrity for whom this is a treasure trove of valuable information, and who can be trusted to deal honestly with it. Not all can be completely silenced.

    It is also true that most of the Western leaders are clueless and gutless about resisting Islam. However, the Yemeni discovery is valuable because it may cause an internal rethinking, paradigm shift, reformation, renaissance—- whatever you want to call it— within Islam itself. The fact that clear EVIDENCE raises questions about the divine inspiration of the Koran, or the integrity of the accepted version of the Koran, is an earthshaking development whose effects can not be known yet. I would love to see competing versions of the Koran, Hadiths, etc. that would cause serious debate about what is the correct version and what is the real spirit of Islam.

  • cjkcjk

    While any evidence to us westerners that the Queeran is an 'evolving' text weighs heavy and important, the unfortunate reality is that regardless of how much evidence or how bonafide that evidence is will mean ABSOLUTELY nothing.
    You see the Queeran is the direct word of allah and any so called evidence to the contrary is nothing more than an Infidel plot against islam……capiche?
    That is exactly how the fiends will see it.

  • cjkcjk

    These guys probably know more about mohammedan scripture than any other people in the world; even the hardest core islamists.
    Concerning your 4th. point: Any change at all in the wording of the Queeran indicates that it is not in fact the eternal unchanged word of allah. It's changed!!!! DUH

  • shadeeelmasry

    The circumstances in which jihad is is established in Islam are no different than those in which war is waged by any country.

    “Allah does not prohibit you from being good and fair with those who have not fought you or removed you from your homes. Allah loves those who are fair.” Chapter 60, verse 8.

    “He only prohibits you from such relations with those who have fought you because of your religion and removed you from your homes.”
    Chapter 60, verse 9.

    Thus, Meronite Christians in Syria, Orthodox in Turkey, Coptics in Egypt, Jews in Morocco. These communities have lived amongst Muslims for over a millenium. Muslim history, as traced by Muslims and non-Muslims records no “Inquisition.”

  • billh

    Is there a difference between the Shia & Sunni korans? If so what are the diffferences?

  • Renee

    Oh, good grief!

    I studied the history of the Jews of Morocco. I suppose the massacres and the ghettos and the repeated robbery and destruction of property and the expulsions and the imprisonment and forced conversions and all were not technically called “Inquisition.”

    However
    An Inquisition by any other name is just as horrible.

    Put down the propaganda magazines and go learn some history.

    Check jihadwatch.com for how the Copts in Egypt are faring nowadays….

    I suspect the Christians in Syria and Turkey have also enjoyed a peaceful history under Muslim rule. /sarcasm off

  • LindaRivera

    EGYPT KIDNAP CHRISTIANS

    ASSYRIAN INTERNATIONAL NEWS AGENCY
    8-11-2009
    Abduction and Forced Islamization of Christian Coptic Girls Continues in Egypt

    (AINA) — The systematic abduction and forced Islamization of Coptic minor girls in Egypt is a frequent, dangerous and a rapidly escalating phenomenon, The problem was brought to light by the Coptic Pope Shenouda III as far back as December 17th, 1976, when he protested during a conference held in Alexandria that “there is pressure being practiced to convert Coptic girls to embrace Islam and marry them under terror to Muslim husbands” and demanded that the abducted girls be brought back to their families.

    Dr. Waheed Ala, renowned Coptic activist and researcher at the Observatory of Religions in Switzerland, believes that the issue of abducted Coptic girls forms the most complex problem in the relations between Christians and Muslims of Egypt — especially because abductions are done in cooperation between Saudi-funded associations and the Egyptian State Security.

    These frequent abduction cases are reported by Coptic human rights advocacies but rarely by the main stream media, and when, they are mostly portrayed as 'an elopement of a loving teen couple.

    …in the majority of cases, the State Security is the one who masterminds the kidnapping plans.”
    http://www.aina.org/news/20090811125748.htm

    The U.S. gifts Egypt with 2.2 billion dollars every year.

    'He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death.' Bible, Exodus 21:16

    Saudi authorities shred all Bibles found on anyone at the airport in Saudi Arabia. Bibles that contain the unchangeable laws of G-D.

  • http://www.moorthymuthuswamy.com/ Moorthy Muthuswamy

    During the past sixty years, in every Muslim majority region of South Asia, upon achieving political power, Muslims have sought to marginalize hapless non-Muslim minorities. Moreover, most non-Muslims from these regions have been systematically driven out to India.

    The mosques have been at the forefront of these activities and the Koran and other Islamic doctrines were used justify this treatment.

    I have discussed this phenomenon in great detail in my new book.

  • aghi

    “The challenge of mitigating the radical Islamic threat indeed comes down to questioning the very basis that the Koran is the Word of God. The Yemeni Koran, backed by Koranic inconsistencies might provide a fresh impetus in this direction.”

    The questioning of the Quran as God's word cannot be undermined by the discovery and further research into the Yemeni Quran.

    Preservation of the Quran passed through stages of transcription, compilation and collection. Zaid ibn Thabit (who later collected the Quran and was one who heard the last recitation directly from the prophet) was one of 42 transcribers who worked during the prophets lifetime memorizing and writing the Quran. The angel Gabriel recited the Quran twice during the prophets last year. Compilation was later done by Abu Bakr the first Caliph of Islam who had the Quran bound by arranging all the verses on square papers the same size.

    Zaid ibn Thabit (who not only memorized the Quran but had one of the written copies) was ordered to collect and verify the written and oral forms of the Quran.

    There were over 100,000 copies of the Quran circulating in the region prior to Zaid ibn Thabit's collection of the Quran in its current form today. People writing the Quran on their own with various dialects during those times was not uncommon. The Yemeni Quran could be one of the many Quran's that were written but not collected by Zaid ibn Thabit still out there buried. We have yet to figure out exactly what these 'Koranic inconsistencies' are in the Yemeni Quran that will lead through a breakthrough questioning the Quran as Gods word.

  • http://defendisrael.blog.com/ steve bronfman

    But tell us about the raisins!!!!!

    http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2006/02/do_ra

  • knobb

    A tough road when everyone talks about peace but no one truely wants it.

  • cjkcjk

    BS!

  • Farid

    “Thus, Meronite Christians in Syria, Orthodox in Turkey, Coptics in Egypt, Jews in Morocco. These communities have lived amongst Muslims for over a millenium. Muslim history, as traced by Muslims and non-Muslims records no “Inquisition.”
    Sorry to burst your bubble dear Shaheed, but your referenced Chrtistian communities have NEVER lived AMONGST Muslims, not even for one day. The minorities you mention (particularly the warrior-type Christian Maronites, whose homeland is Mount Lebanon), have no desire whatsoever to live amongst Muhammadans, and why should they? The slightest whisper of Allah-u-akkbar, Allah is the greatest (the greatest what, dear Shaheed?), will transform Muhammadans into unpredicatble goons like their deranged Mahomet the majnoon, Allah's only apostle.

    Christians and Muhammadans do live in the same country, but Not in the same neighbourhood, definitely not amongst each other. In Syria, the Muslim Allawiyya prefer to live in Christian suburbs than to live amongst Sunni Moslems. Even in Lebanon, Sunni and Shia have their own distinct enclaves. In the large Christian suburb Ashrafiya in Beirut you will not find a single Mohummadan. Likewise, you will find no Christians in the Muslim quarter Shiah.
    Like the beserk werewolves who are fascinated by the moon, Christians are extremely distrustful of the crescent
    I love Muslims, but hate Islam, the cancer of humanity, created by Allah “The best of the deceivers”
    Salam, Farid

    • Phaariz

      Peace be to you Farid,

      Why do you say that Islam is the cancer of humanity? Who are Muhammadans? Why do you hate Islam?

  • Phaariz

    Dear davorino, Peace be to you.

    Killing an innocent human beings is NOT allowed in the religion of Islam similar in all major religions. Islam goes further and says in the Holy Quran that killing an innocent human being is the same as killing the whole Humanity. It further says that saving a single human life is the same as saving the whole Humanity (Refer to The Holy Quran 5:32). So do not believe what the common man (and most media) says about Islam.

    To kill, is only allowed when someone commits manslaughter or corruption in the earth, or in Wars, same as in any other religion. Jihad doesn't mean killing innocent human beings as in the word Terrorism suggests. There are pockets of terrorists not only in Islam, but in Christianity, Judaism and Hinduism (and others), even though you deny it. Infact the biggest terrorist the world have ever seen, Hitler, was a Christian. We should not forget that he killed 6 million humans.

    Jihad literally means to “struggle and strive”. To struggle and strive to make one's own self better in front of God, so that we can achieve His rewards.

    You are welcome to read and recite the Holy Quran in any language, but please do read it. Then only you would understand.

    May God give you, the owner of this website and the author of this article Hidhaayah.

  • ciccio

    That may well be so but that same koran is also quite emphatic in stating that it is only the muzzies who are innocent. In other words, slaughter like a ravenous beast but don't touch the muzzies.

    • Phaariz

      Peace be to you Ciccio,

      Where in the Quran says muslims to slaughter like a ravenous beast?

      If you read the Quran correctly, in context, you will see that killing is allowed only in Wars, and against those who slaughter and spread corruption. If you went to war with someone, will you kill those of your own party rather than your enemies?

      If muslims go to war against non-muslims, we normally have to try to kill them, and try not to kill ourselves. Which part of this statement doesnt make sense to you?

      May God give you guidance and Hidhaayah

  • Daud

    Read what Prof M M Azmi has to say about the Yemeni fragments in his book "The Authenticity of the Quran".

    As for for putting the fragments on the Internet, why not also put the Dead Sea Scrolls, the actual Greek ms and the Hebrew ms all on the Internet? These should appeal to a wider audience…. After all, the Areabic ms of the Quran is on the Internet.

  • sehrish

    Ridiculous…the authors have there own biases and I feel that in any religious text if you will take verses out of context then you will be bound to make anything out of nothing! you need a clear head to understand any religious book! if you will look anything with skepticism, you will never realize the true meaning of anything!

  • Rizwi Faizer

    How and when did Moorthy and Spencer become authorities on either history or Islam?

  • James

    Dar El'Salam does not exist because Islam does not know peace. Dar Al"Harb has been the envy of Muslim because Islam does not rule.

    Islam and it's history, rule, codes and mores can be totally dismantled by it's so called own scholarly writings. Father Zakaria has proved that hundreds of times by using islaming books, Islamic hadiths, and the Koran itself to dismantle and prove the fallacy Islam and the evil roots of this so called cancer on humanity.

    Knowledge is power and debate is important for the truth to come out. when one shakes the milk the butter comes out, for if we do not research, discuss, and question Islam we will never be free.

    If you cannot question then it is a cult.