The Communists Behind Obama’s Health Care Goals – by John Perazzo

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The polls have been clear for quite some time: By a substantial margin, Americans oppose the efforts of Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats to enact a massive overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system, one that would greatly expand the federal government’s role.

Significantly, the President’s deeply held positions on healthcare were derived largely from the influence of a politically aggressive group of longtime Marxists whose worldviews were consistent with those Obama had already developed from other radical influences in his life. But before we examine who those particular Marxists were, let us establish, with certainty, what Obama’s long-term objectives for healthcare actually are.

As an Illinois state senator in 2003, Obama unambiguously told an AFL-CIO conference:

I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer, universal healthcare [plan]…. That’s what I’d like to see.”

In a single-payer system, a government-run organization would manage the healthcare of every man, woman, and child in the United States—collecting all related fees and paying out all related costs.

At an SEIU Health Care Forum on March 24, 2007, Obama sang the same tune—though this time he conceded that the attainment of his ultimate vision might require a gradual, incremental approach:

“There’s going to be, potentially, some transition process. I can envision a decade out, or 15 years out, or 20 years out…”

In the summer of 2008, when a campaign audience member asked him to comment on single-payer healthcare, Obama candidly replied:

“If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system.”

Earlier this year, however, the President—recognizing the American public’s opposition to such a system, as reflected in every reputable opinion poll—made a calculated political move to withdraw the single-payer option from the bargaining table. In its stead, he argued in favor of a so-called “public option,” where a government plan would be set up to “compete” with private insurers—and would undoubtedly drive many of those insurers out of business. In an effort to assuage people’s fear that he was seeking to transform the world’s finest healthcare system into a government-run reflection of his own socialist ideals, Obama said this on June 15:

“What are not legitimate concerns are those being put forward claiming a public option is somehow a Trojan horse for a single-payer system.… So, when you hear the nay-sayers claim that I’m trying to bring about government-run health care, know this—they are not telling the truth.”

But in light of his earlier quotes, this was less than candid. Obama’s pre-opinion poll position on the matter of single-payer healthcare was clear and unwavering. His more recent departure from that position is perfectly consistent with the tactics advocated by his political guru, the late Saul Alinsky, who counseled revolutionaries to conceal their real motives; to say and do whatever is necessary to allay the fears and suspicions of the middle class; and to pursue incremental change where overnight transformation is not possible—knowing they can always agitate for additional change at some point in the future.

Notwithstanding his concession to political practicality, it is clear that the ultimate objective of President Obama’s self-identified quest to “fundamentally transform the United States of America,” is to move the nation as far as possible, albeit incrementally, toward a single-payer system. How did Obama come to embrace the single-payer ideal as the best of all possible options? Thanks to some extraordinary research by Trevor Loudon and Brenda J. Elliott, among others, we know the answer.

The primary figure who delivered Obama to the single-payer camp was Quentin Young, an 86-year-old retired physician who was a longtime friend and neighbor of Obama in Chicago. Young joined the Young Communist League as a teenager in the late 1930s. From the mid-1940s through the mid-1970s, he was closely associated with the Communist Party. In October 1968 he was called to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee, which was probing the extent of his knowledge about the riots that had erupted at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago two months earlier. The Committee accused Young of belonging to the Bethune Club, an organization for communist doctors; the group was named after Norman Bethune, a communist physician who devoted his services to the totalitarian regime of Mao Zedong.

Dr. Young was active in the radical movements of the Sixties and Seventies and led a small delegation to Communist North Vietnam in 1972. In the late 1970s, Young became associated with a Marxist organization known as the New American Movement, which was initially convened by Michael Lerner, an America-hating radical who counseled young people to explore the use of LSD and other hallucinogenic drugs as portals to a greater comprehension of socialist principles.

In 1980 Young founded the Health and Medicine Policy Research Group, a single-payer lobby group whose Board of Directors he chairs to this day. In 1982 Young helped establish the Democratic Socialists of America, which, as the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International, asserts that “many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed.” In 1987 Young co-founded Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP), a single-payer advocacy organization where he currently serves as national coordinator. In PNHP’s view, government-run healthcare “should be financed by truly progressive taxation.”

In 1995 Young attended the now-famous meeting at the Hyde Park home of former Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, where Barack Obama was first introduced to influential locals as the hand-picked successor to Alice Palmer, a pro-Soviet radical who planned to vacate her Illinois State Senate seat in pursuit of a higher elected office. Young quickly became a friend and political ally of Obama, teaching the latter about the merits of single-payer healthcare. In a 2009 interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now!, Young reminisced about the germination of his ideological kinship with the young Obama:

“Barack Obama, in those early days [as a state senator]—influenced, I hope, by me and others—categorically said single payer was the best way, and he would inaugurate it if he could get the support, meaning [Democratic] majorities in both houses, which he’s got, and the presidency, which he’s got. And he said that on more than one occasion….”

Another noteworthy influence on Obama’s views vis à vis healthcare has been Dr. Peter Orris, who co-founded Physicians for a National Health Program with Quentin Young. The son of a Communist Party member, Orris in the 1960s was a leader of Harvard University’s campus chapter of Students for a Democratic Society, the New Leftist organization that aspired to overthrow America’s democratic institutions and remake the nation’s government in a Marxist image. He later joined the Communist Party (CP) for more than two decades, before ultimately shifting his allegiance to the CP splinter group, Committees of Correspondence, where he remains a prominent figure to this day.

Other leading PNHP activists (and thus, key shapers of President Obama’s healthcare agendas) include the following:

  • Joanne Landy, a high-ranking member of the Democratic Socialists of America
  • Mark Almberg, a prominent member of the Illinois Communist Party since the 1970s
  • Oliver Fein (PNHP President) and Steffi Woolhandler (PNHP Secretary), both of whom have spoken in favor of a single-payer healthcare system at the annual Socialist Scholars Conferences in New York City

The Communist influences on President Obama’s healthcare objectives do not end with the foregoing list of PNHP leaders. In 2004, PNHP collaborated with a number of likeminded, far-left organizations to form a wider coalition, Healthcare-NOW!, which likewise promotes single-payer reform (and, notably, enjoys the strong support of the Socialist Party USA). Obama’s friend and mentor, Quentin Young, is a central figure in Healthcare-NOW!, serving as the network’s national coordinator and co-chair. Other prominent members of Healthcare-NOW!’s Board of Directors—who, like their counterparts at PNHP, exert a major influence on President Obama—include:

Barack Obama did not conceive of socialized medicine on his own. His acceptance of such a system was cultivated and nurtured by the same types of Marxist revolutionaries with whom he has surrounded himself throughout his entire adult life – and who are now shaping the major policy agendas of his administration.

  • Proxywar

    When it comes a single-payer healthcare system there is always a “BUT” with obama.

    eg.

    I am for a single-payer system, BUT….
    I would like to see a single-payer system, BUT…
    If I was starting from scratch I would create a single-payer system, BUT…

    He speaks in ambiguity thus so he can never be called a lair or wrong until it is to late. The man truely is a genius in this regard.

  • Robert Bernier

    Wow! Read this one. It is really good. And this gentleman says it just like it is.

    This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii
    for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body, he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now. He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president. Consult : http://xrl.us/bgeewc

  • poptoy1949

    Is anybody surprised YET?

  • keithrage

    Vote for Oblunder once and you can claim to be deceived.
    Vote for Oblunder twice and you are a socialist, please relocate to China or Russia.

  • goosebumps

    They want all your money for “health care” so they can speed up our decline into socialism. And it is a decline. It is a system so backward and inferior to capitalism that I cannot imagine anyone with a thinking brain inside their skull truly buying into it. Most of the “Lefties” I have ever talked to do not have anything but a spacer between their ears. The utter stupidity has led me to just give up trying to have an intelligent discussion with any of them. They spew out all the old cliches and the bizarre thing is they all say the same thing, verbatim. When you ask them what they mean by that they spew out more cliches, never giving any true meaning to what they are saying. They think by rote.

  • jacob

    That Barack Hussein Obama became President did not surprise me, considering that more of a parachutist than him like JIMMY CARTER made it, earning in the course of it the JIMMY WHO alias, as I was listening to the radio talk show where the alias originated when the anchor man asked him his name and upon saying it, the anchor man asked :
    JIMMY WHO ???
    And he said : CARTER and I will be the next President of the United States…
    The rest is history…

    Before the election, I asked an elderly northern lady with a mind like a whip, who was she going to vote for and her answer was
    OBAMA. OF COURSE !!
    I asked what did she know about the man and she told me she didn't have to, as long as he was her political party's candidate…
    Then I asked her whether, whould her party postulate a monkey for President, would she vote for him and her answer was YES ! !

    At this point, I told her I rested my case…

    So now, since Americans galore decided to cut off their noses to spite their faces, as the GOP couldn't find a better presidential candidate but “shlimazel” McCain, whose debate performances made me puke, OBAMA and his DEMOCRAPS combo are ramming down the American people throat his OBAMACARE, even
    offering that Nebraska senator they bribe they did, just to get his vote…
    And people still wonder why this country is going to hell without the basket

    Truly, our only hope is to wait for next year's congresional elections and hope the brainwashing about the DEMOCRAPS wore off…

    Judging from the last elections, DEMOCRAPS are in for one hell of a surprise and perhaps ask OBAMA to better stay home.

    His help for his choices seem to have prompted his fellow DEMOCRAPS to tell him
    DON'T HELP ME ! ! !

  • T

    wake up America, before its too late!!

    This is not going to turn out well. Does anything our government do really turn out as planned?

  • Steve Chavez

    EXCELLENT! THE COMMUNIST PARTY USA IS THE ENEMY WITHIN! EXPOSE THEM! EXPOSE OBAMA AND CONGRESS!

    MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY USA SWITCHED TO DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS SINCE IT SOUNDS BETTER ESPECIALLY WHEN THE COUNTRY THEY LOVED MORE THAN THEIR OWN, FELL!

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND THEY WILL REVOLT AGAINST THEM ALL!

    IS GLENN BECK THE ONLY BRAVE ONE TO EXPOSE THESE TRAITORS TO AMERICA? HIS RATINGS SKYROCKETED WHEN HE EXPOSED VAN JONES! EXPOSING THESE GROUPS WOULD BRING THE SPOTLIGHT ON THESE COCKROACHES!

    THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BETTER HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES IN EACH STATE TO CHOSE FROM TO DEFEAT THE CHEATERS IN 2010!!! WE DON'T HAVE ANY LINED UP HERE IN NEW MEXICO WHERE ALL IN CONGRESS AND THE SENATE ARE DEMOCRATS!!!!

    IN 2008, MY TWELVE YEAR OLD SON WAS A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT AND I GOT THREE CALLS FROM THEIR PARTY OFFICE TO SEE IF HE VOTED YET OR NEEDED A RIDE! I CALLED THE FBI AND NO RESPONSE! ARE THEY IN ON IT TOO OR IS THE CHEATING SO HUGE THAT THEY ARE LETTING IT SLIDE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SO MUCH WORK?

    CAPS? I'M MAD AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!

  • Leo

    BHO is product of well known African Marxist father and American hater international socialist mother. He is educated in a Muslim madrasa, hotbed for anti-western, anti-freedom ideology. Pure and simple he is a MARXIST. Now the question is, are the American People have The courage and determination to undo the damage he and Dems are inflicting upon this country?

  • 2maxpower

    I think that you will find that he is lying. if you look at what he says there are more lies then truths in his speeches and sound bites.

    as far as genius …only if you consider lying scum to be capable of genius. I don't.

    I understand what you are saying. Just that I don't see it as that ambiguous. he (o-bum-a) lies when he doesn't need to, he cannot help himself.

    read the link below. the author has him pegged.
    http://faithfreedom.org/oped/sina80922

  • 2maxpower

    there are more then Glenn Beck ..the problem is the media is effectively shutting them out. Blogs and sites like these are helping but the majority of people do not know of or visit these sites.

    Glenn and a few facebook post from Sarah have done more damage to the socialist hoard then most of all the other methods combined. it is a start and good luck all.

  • loumindes

    What's going on in the US Congress is not about health care, it is about power, control and removal of personal freedom.
    Please take the time to review history, not as the modern politically correct text books are written, but actual history.
    This is the USA, not Europe. Our founding fathers came here to get away from the bad ideas of Europe. Why on earth would we want to emulate these countries that endorse a “nanny state” that built their headquarters to resemble the Tower of Babble?
    Under the guise of “health care”, there is a much larger movement underway. Competent commentators such as Dennis Prager, who is listened to and respected by left and right, has much to say on the subject. (He has free 5 minute classes on the internet at Prager University.)
    Little chips at liberty happen daily, you can see them if you look:
    • No American flag in the Marana branch of the Pima County Library until a patriot spoke up.
    • Well documented appointments of socialists and communists in the Obama administration.
    • Secularization of society under the pretence of separation of church and state.
    This list goes on. Friends and neighbors, these are red flags we need to be aware of and resist. The Judeo-Christian principals this country was built upon are under attack by those who abuse these liberties. Sooner or later, these chips will cause a collapse with many wondering what happened.
    Come on Baby Boomers, smarten up. Buffalo Springfield in the song For What It's Worth said “There is something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear”. Let’s not wait for “the man with a gun over there”.
    As George Orwell commented so brilliantly, there are some ideas so wrong, only an intellectual could believe them.
    You may not have to thank God, but you should thank those who do.

    Louis Mindes

  • jdelaney3

    I read this excellent article and clearly understand that it should set off alarms across this land. But, alas, except for the tea-partiers, nearly everyone is either essentially tuned out or has already yielded to Obama's master plan. And so it goes…But, please keep up the fight. I and a few others are with you to the bitter end.

  • USMCSniper

    Barack Obama admitted that he was aligned with Marxists during his college days.
    He wrote about it in his book:

    “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

    Barack Obama laughs off charges of socialism. Joe Biden scoffs at references to Marxism. Both men shrug off accusations of liberalism.

    But Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to far left socialists andMarxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.

    Obama's affinity for Marxists began when he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles.

    “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully,” the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, “Dreams From My Father.” “The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

    Obama's interest in leftist politics continued after he transferred to Columbia University in New York. He lived on Manhattan's Upper East Side, venturing to the East Village for what he called “the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union.”

    After graduating from Columbia in 1983, Obama spent a year working for a consulting firm and then went to work for what he described as “a Ralph Nader offshoot” in Harlem.

    “In search of some inspiration, I went to hear Kwame Toure, formerly Stokely Carmichael of The Black Panther fame, speak at Columbia,” Obama wrote in “Dreams,” which he published in 1995. “At the entrance to the auditorium, two women, one black, one Asian, were selling Marxist literature.”

    Obama, who made a point of noting how “carefully” he chose his friends in college, also chose to launch his political career in the Chicago living room of Ayers, a domestic terrorist who in 2002 proclaimed: “I am a Marxist.”

  • popseal

    When does the Second American Reovlution start? I hope it's before I'm too old to participate.

  • popseal

    pardon my mild dyslexia…..”revolution”

  • cottonman

    1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. From courage to liberty;
    4. From liberty to abundance;
    5. From abundance to complacency;
    6. From complacency to apathy;
    7. From apathy to dependence;
    8. From dependence back into bondage

    Including myself, most of us have been lazy in our civic responsibilities & here we are. It's not too late, but when the 'system' is corrupt then those on the inside (Democrats/Republicans) cannot change the 'system' cause they are a part of it.

    Finally, someone just wrote a great book about a small town in America that does stand up to federal tyranny & ends up starting the 2nd American Revolution just like Lexington 1775. It's a political thriller that has all of today's problems & what's nxt for America. Great read if your interest.
    booksbyoliver.com

  • LindaRivera

    Communists don't conceive communism as being a better, superior system. Communism has always been a system whereby the fabulously wealthy few wield absolute power over the majority. It is the ultimate power kick. Hard-core communists all share the same rabid, all-consuming hate for G-D whilst denying His existence.

    Absolute power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Communist regimes have murdered millions of their own countrymen.

  • Elisa

    We're so screwed.

    People think they're going to fight this travesty and treason by holding protests and town hall meetings when they should be in Washington DC RIGHT NOW, kicking down the locked doors and DEMANDING that these treasonists face charges and punishment for their crimes against this Country and it's People.

  • dharc

    We need a House committee on Un American Activites .Maybe it was HUAC.Then we need a tall tree and a short rope. Lets clean up this mess and get back to being the greatest country on earth.

  • Jackthesleddog

    Civil Disobedience

  • get_involved
  • bubba4

    Boy, FPM just doesn't get tired of the “Communist behind every bush” worldview. You morons eat it up like cake.

    After WWII most of our allies created healthcare systems backed and regulated by the government….some single payer, some public option (or some variation with strong regulation)….except us.

    You didn't have to attend a Communist meeting or pow-wow with a Marxist to get the “idea” …you just have to look at our ally Great Britian. I'm sure Obama thought that a single-payer system would be the best thing for the people. It probably would have. After months and months of political wrangling, debate, and rewriting of bills, we aren't even coming close to a single-payer system….the latest bill doesn't even have a public option.

    But please, don't let this example of our democracy get in the way of your paranoid silliness about a Marxist takeover. If the healthcare bill is Obama slamming through the Marxist agenda to spite what the people want, then he's not doing a very good job….

    Wake up you idiots. John Perazzo is a slime merchant and fear monger and if it's not communists, it's blacks and muslims…but someone is coming to get ya!

    • henryhiggins

      If we wanted to be like Europe (presently morphing into Eurabia) we would still be there, and there would be no USA. If you prefer their style of governing chains, I'm sure we could pass the hat and purchase your ticket. It would be your last handout from America. As for us, we prefer our liberty. Our rights are endowed upon us by our Creator, not our government. Among these rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit (not promise) of happiness. Health insurance is a commodity, not a right. In the US, you cannot take what belongs to someone (ie, a physician's service) and give it to someone else. We are the most generous country on earth, and people are not dying in the streets. In Europe they are often dying in the hospitals, for lack of good medical care. Changes to our system are needed in the areas of lawsuit reform and competition, but the entire framework of the greatest healthcare system in the world need not be destroyed to accomplish this.

  • bubba4

    You didn't learn much from the last century did ya?

  • bubba4

    They would look pretty stupid. You can yell stuff like “treason” and “communist”…but (and I know this will come as a shock), it doesn't make it real.

  • therealend

    Most revolutions fail to work out so something better than that is needed. Organizing for one. Registering to vote. Voting. Non-violent marches. Getting the truth out. Not getting suckered into doing something crazy or violent. Letting the other side make all the mistakes.

  • therealend

    I doubt anyone else here supports that. Besides that, the last century didn't really have a cut-off date where we can leave everything that happened from 1901 to 2000 locked up in it's own little time span. All of those things can happen again. Some of them already have.

  • bubba4

    “Please take the time to review history, not as the modern politically correct text books are written, but actual history.”

    Like what? What would be “actual history” in your mind?

    “This is the USA, not Europe. Our founding fathers came here to get away from the bad ideas of Europe. Why on earth would we want to emulate these countries that endorse a “nanny state” that built their headquarters to resemble the Tower of Babble?”

    At the time, most of the governments in Europe were Monarchies, including Russia….not really a progressive system.

    “Under the guise of “health care”, there is a much larger movement underway.”

    Of course there is…otherwise what would you get hysterical and self righteous about. If we are just hashing out the boring details of governing our nation, then Dennis Prager doesn't have anything to sell. No, it has to be a worldwide conspiracy to do something to you.

    “•No American flag in the Marana branch of the Pima County Library until a patriot spoke up.”

    OMG…wake the children!!!!

    “•Well documented appointments of socialists and communists in the Obama administration.”

    Riiiight….and you realize that you are on a political rag where the writers can write whatever they want. I can write an article about how you like to bugger farm animals..but that wouldn't count as “well documented”

    •Secularization of society under the pretence of separation of church and state.

    We have a secular society already. You believe whatever you want but don't put it on me. No one wants to take your church away. You can keep going to church and read the bible all you want. Ain't freedom grand? The last thing we need are more religious nuts telling us how things are suppose to be.

    “Buffalo Springfield in the song For What It's Worth said “There is something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear”. Let’s not wait for “the man with a gun over there”.

    And you think he was talking about Communists??? The song is about the Vietnam War and all the protests going on in America is that very turbulent time in our history. These words are also from the song and I think it suits you better…

    Paranoia strikes deep
    Into your life it will creep
    It starts when you're always afraid

  • jacob

    To BUBBA4 :
    Tell me :

    If it has four feet, small horns, a goattee and bleats, what is it ??

    A crocodile ??

    Tell me who do you associate with and I will tell you who the hell you are…! ! !

    Who did he grow up with and who are his cabinet and “Czars” choices ??

    He promised a buch of brainwashed morons a “Change” but a “change” is precisely what Castro promised the Cubans FIFTY YEARS ago and Chavez the Venezuelans TEN YEARS already and plans on staying until 2021 and counting…

    Unfortunately, there isn't a worse blind than he who doesn't want to see nor a deaf
    one that doesn't want to hear…

  • Proxywar

    Bubba just because it isn't Marxism as we knew it doesn't mean it's not more socialism. Without question it is fabian socialism. ie. incremental takeover.

    “After WWII most of our allies created healthcare systems backed and regulated by the government….some single payer, some public option (or some variation with strong regulation)….except us.”

    Which all suck compared to the American healthcare system. The only problem with the American system is the cost. Others would argue pre existing conditions as well. Fine I give you that. However, they could of fixed those problems without a thousand page bill. It is from your point of view that America exploits other nations
    I wounder why they wrote those government runned healthcare systems into other nations constitutions if not to keep them in a state of inadequacy. However, that was old democrat guard the new democrat guard wants to bring these terrible ideas back home to roost.

  • bubba4

    Look at you. You write the same bullshit articles that FPM does, you just don't get paid for it. You need a blog Sniper, so all your

  • bubba4

    It's already started. Grab a gun and attack the nearest windmill.

  • bubba4

    Bubba just because it isn't Marxism as we knew it doesn't mean it's not more socialism. Without question it is fabian socialism. ie. incremental takeover.

    Oh jeez…”fabian socialsim”?…what have you been reading? How can we as a nation debate whether or not policies are going to be good for us when a small sector of hysterical ninnies are easily sent off the deep end with conspiracy theory nonsense?

    “Which in reality all suck compared to the American healthcare system.”

    Really? How would you know? Have you ever been out of the country, or are you one of the 80% that don't have passports?

    “The only problem with the American system is the cost.”

    Well, no shit sherlock…what do you think this is all about. The country is going to be sunk by rising healthcare costs…which is why something had to be done now.

    “Others would argue pre existing conditions as well. Fine I give you that. However, they could of fixed those problems without a thousand page bill.”

    Really? How? I would love to hear even a simplistic layman's solution from you. The companies won't do it by themselves. “Wall Street” made it clear last year that before they control themselves they would kill the beast on whose tit they suckle.

    “It is from your point of view that America exploits other nations”

    What? huh?

    “I wounder why they wrote those government runned healthcare systems into other nations constitutions if not to keep them in a state of inadequacy.”

    I don't know, maybe because like water and air, we all need healthcare at some point to live long happy lives. If you get preventive care, then you won't need as much healthcare as you age. Some of you are allowing FPM and others to push your worldview into very cynical and absolutist territory. You know who started the Nation Health Service in Britian? Winston Churchill…yeah that old Marxist asshole…actually wanted to take care of his people.

  • bubba4

    Why don't you just hit the reply button?

    “Tell me who do you associate with and I will tell you who the hell you are…! ! ! Who did he grow up with and who are his cabinet and “Czars” choices ??”

    Someone's been watching too much Fox News. Like FPM and other abominations of the internet, there are folks out there who have a vested interest in you being pissed off and paranoid.

    “He promised a buch of brainwashed morons a “Change” but a “change” is precisely what Castro promised the Cubans FIFTY YEARS ago”

    Isn't this the “Ray Charles = God” logic? Do you even know what you're angry about? Communist…somewhere…grrr…

    “Unfortunately, there isn't a worse blind than he who doesn't want to see nor a deaf one that doesn't want to hear…”

    Usually people make a point before claiming they are misunderstood. Grrrr back at ya.

  • derekwall

    This is relevent http://another-green-world.blogspot.com/2009/12… wise words from Mumia Abu-Jamal.

    I do think you should demonise proper health care, it should be about meeting need not the greed of corporate medicine.

  • steven L

    A single privately run healthcare system for every American including all the members of the congress and US administration including the President should be OK.

  • Elisa

    Bubba, obviously you're just too damned stupid to know the truth, even when it kicks you in the face.

    You lefties think you're sooooo smart. You're sheep being led to slaughter.

    People like you voted for this COMMUNISM, even with the facts in plain sight before you voted. You ignored the facts and look where it got us.

    Yeah, you're gonna get what you asked for. Thing is, the freedom loving American patriots don't want this crap. Now sit down and let the real American's fix this mess so our children don't have to suffer for YOUR ignorance.

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  • Voltimand

    This “bubba” personage is typical of most left-wing ripostes on this site; they are either personal slanders or they are incoherent–as here–or they are both. Liberalism, like marxism, is a hate philosophy–it mainly operates by declaring “enemies” and then going after them. There is literally nothing one can talk about with someone like this, because verbal discourse is for them nothing more than a vehicle for personal attack.

  • Voltimand

    As I said above earlier: either a name-caller or incoherent or both. Try a shrink, Bubba–find out who it is you're really angry with.

  • clergymanray

    Is this all you rightwingers know how to do — scare the tar out of people with your deceptive tricks as you harken back to the “Glory Days” of the Cold War in the image of discredited redbaiting Senator Joseph McCarthy from Wisconsin?

    Obama left Physicians for a National Health Program (a group of 16,000 reputable American physicians and most assuredly, they are not all socialists) out in the cold. He never met with them though he did cut several backroom deals with the big insurance and big pharma lobbies. The President let that arrogant errand boy of the insurance industry Max Baucus take Single-Payer off the table and American doctors and nurses who support single-payer protested the Senate Finance Committee's sham reform hearings this past fall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tszj0ssgsmo

    Even if this “commie” Quentin Young (and I'd like to know who/where your sources are Mr. Perazzo) once influenced Obama & convinced him Single-Payer is the way to go, Obama long ago threw Mr. Young, along with his former Reverend Wright, the people he organized with for jobs in justice in Chicago, Bill Ayres, etc. under the bus in the name of Rahm Emanuel's destructive DLC corporate democrat pragmatism so he could pursue the presidency of the United States.

    There is an individual mandate for all U.S. citizens to buy over-priced insurance from the health monopolies in the bill that's been passed by the Senate, which is likely to be similar to whatever the merged legislation looks like. Let me repeat…an individual mandate to keep the inmates running the asylum and give people government subsidies to hand over to the crooks who already swiped all the bread and baby formula from the supermarket and prop up this broken system we have.

    Yeah, for those of us who read and actually know what the hell's going on in the world…Single-Payer (like they have in Canada, England, France, etc.) or a strong public option (like they have in Japan where everyone either gets coverage through work or is covered under a govt. public plan) makes a lot of sense. http://www.amazon.com/Healing-America-Global-Be

    But don't tell our pathetic K Street-dominated corporate government that. Congress & the White House wanna keep bleeding taxpayers and citizens dry until they bankrupt the federal government all so these govt hogs can stand at the trough and collect damn near unlimited nice, fuzzy corporate PAC donations so they can get re-elected while we continue to fend for ourselves in this healthcare holocaust.

    WE ARE THE ONLY RICH COUNTRY WITHOUT SOME FORM OF UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE AND WE PAY NEARLY TWICE AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE (IN THE FIRST WORLD) DOES!

    Pull your heads outta your ass Righties! We are being ripped off! Your kids are, yer momma and yer daddy are, hell they're prolly stealing their profit margin increases right outta yer paycheck now – we're all being taken for everything we got by these for-profit hospitals, HMOs and pharmaceutical companies.

    If the Democrats and Obama actually wanted a public option, uh…don't ya think they would've fought for it until they got it? With public opinion polling on their side for a public option, tens of millions of voters from their party's base and the activists who elected Obama all ready to work to win real healthcare reform – they had the wind at their sails.

    There is one point Progressives and Libertarians agree on though. This isn't reform, it's robbery. You'd have to be Alice in Wonderland not to see that.

  • LindaRivera

    This destructive act is being perpetrated because they say some people don't have health insurance. At the same time, the Administration is fully aware that there is an extremely simple, extremely low-cost solution: Ask for volunteers! Doctors and nurses could volunteer one hour per month to treat patients for free!

  • NewHampshire

    You one-worlders are too stupid to see that you will be eating cake soon… that is if you are allowed to live.

  • NewHampshire

    You can yell 'conspiracy theory' all you want but we are watching your left hand…people are not listening anymore. They are paying attention to what these criminals are actually DOING. Everything Obama SAYS is a blatant LIE.

  • bubba4

    Why talk about me in the third person when replying to a post of mine? Again, as on another thread, I quote the post I am replying to and even break it up into sections and address his different assertions individually…and for you it's incoherent and “attacks”.

    Well I'm sorry my delicate little flower…that you can't even read a pithy debate that doesn't involve you and not feel like a victim of “lefty”. If you don't like it…it's “left”. Politics is one dimension of life cupcake…so stop being a little cultic prick and trolling my posts.

  • bubba4

    “One-worlders”? “eating cake”? WTF are you talking about NewHampshire…why bother to post at all?

  • jackbelias

    You are very right, communism creates a two class society. The elite then protect their ruling status by enforcing a caste system. The American left is well on the way to the creation of this anti human agenda. Making us pay for “global warming” is really just a tax on rags to riches designed to limit one to rags with no hope of ever seeing riches. Socialized healthcare takes responsiblity away from employers and places the costs right in the laps of the workers.

    These communists mentioned are all Ivy League brats who went to school on old family money. None of these changes will affect them. In fact they will get richer by collecting a fee for carbon dioxide use by the less privilaged workers of America. Our children will be doomed to being impoverished ditch diggers and sewer cleaners while their children will inherit cushy administrative posts with lots of perks.

    Communism, Socialism, progressivism, whatever one calls it is really a class war declared against the worker by elites of inherited wealth.

  • jackbelias

    The founders would have wiped these old family money commie elites from the earth. Each American is to uphold the constitution, those who do not are labeled “domestic enemies”. The founders were not kind to domestic enemies.

    Allowing communist agendas is un American as we were never intended to be a nation of slaves who exist only to cater to the whims of privilaged leftist brats. Their agenda is an open declarion of war upon the United States. A HUAC panel would be perfectly constitutional, in fact common Americans are authorized by the constitution to dispach the spoiled little pigs.

  • jacob

    Without that many words, to me, the best definition of “socialism” (and please keep in mind the USSR, Red China, Vietnam, N. Korea, Cuba,
    Venezuela, etc,.) is the one given by WINSTON CHURCHILL, something like (if my memory serves me rigth)
    THE PHILOSOPHY OF FAILURE, THE PREACHING OF ENVY AND THE EGALITARIAN DISTRIBUTION OF MISERY “

    Needless to say, if this is the “CHANGE” the many morons that voted for OBAMA and his DEMOCRAPS want, then I rest my case…

    Just remember CASTRO promised CUBANS also a CHANGE, which has been going on for FIFTY YEARS of MISERY already, VENEZUELA on the way after ELEVEN YEARS of 21ST CENTURY SOCIALISM, RED CHINA, NORTH KOREA, NICARAGUA, ETC,.

    Jusr remember you morons, when you'll see your neighbor's beard on fire,
    better put yours into water, as later it will be too damned late…

  • jackbelias

    Your assumed right to rewrite history whenever you please is an absurdity. The likes of Howard Zinn have used this strategy to destroy our educational system and indoctrinate youth. Yes real history exists, your revisionist propaganda does not equal it.

    Want to know what the founders meant for the bill of rights and the constitution? Read the federalist papers, they explained it all very clearly. Democratic revolutionaries of today are well within the definition of domestic enemies. It is the duty of every American to make you unwelcome and water the tree of liberty with your ilk when you take power and force your unconstitutional agendas.

    You will of course label me a republican neocon bible thumper, us atheists have been in the crosshairs of your leftist political ilk for years. We were convenient for you at one time, but now we are “haters” while the US wages war on radical Islam. Now we are seen as anti progress and offensive to your new muslim friends. We were never easy to lead, our reasoned minds never really supported your anti human agendas anyway.

  • bubba4

    “Your assumed right to rewrite history whenever you please is an absurdity.”

    I had to check Disqus to make sure you were replying to me…who is rewriting history and assuming the right to do so?

    “The likes of Howard Zinn have used this strategy to destroy our educational system and indoctrinate youth. Yes real history exists, your revisionist propaganda does not equal it.”

    My “revisionist propaganda”? WTF are you talking about?

    “Want to know what the founders meant for the bill of rights and the constitution?”

    I'm pretty well versed on the subject, but I have a feeling you'll tell me anyway.

    “Read the federalist papers, they explained it all very clearly. Democratic revolutionaries of today are well within the definition of domestic enemies.”

    When our elected representatives pass a law that you don't like, that doesn't make them traitors. If people feel that it's unconstitutional, then they can sue and take it to the Supreme Court. See, that's what we do here in America. We don't let cultic yokels who watch too much Fox News decide who's unAmerican and string them up.

    “It is the duty of every American to make you unwelcome and water the tree of liberty with your ilk when you take power and force your unconstitutional agendas.”

    The election of Obama created so many libertarians it's hilarious. You're a real chest thumper aren't ya? A self-righteous, assuming prick who thinks his love for America is better than other people's. Well you're “special” all right but not for the reasons you think. You need to learn how to disagree with others and express yourself without saddling the other person with everything you think is wrong with the country. The “lefty” boogeyman is reducing some of your brains to pudding.

  • jacob

    TO BUBBA 4 :

    So this other gentleman watches too much FOX NEWS garbage, right ??

    You, who are breaking some many jousting lancers for OBAMA and his clique, mind telling me what the hell do you know about him/them ??

    By his own admission, he used to hang around with lefties and outright communists
    His political record stems from corrupt South Chicago, Al Capone & company old stomping grounds and I wonder whether its prevalent corruption then and now has been anything but stamped out to this day…

    He and wife were parishioners of DAMN THE USA “Rev” Wright for 20 years and never heard anything of the sort, and also associated with that German name communist Catholic priest, Bil Ayres, etc,.

    He was an important opponent of McCain's legislation to somehow curb the abuses of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Democrap inventions, responsible parties of the mess we still are into, BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE TAKE FROM THEM.

    Now, other that what you read, what in the hell do you know about Communism and the insidious way the work their way up ??

    Why don't you ask the Cubans about CASTRO's Trojan horse FIFTY YEARS AGO, same one CHAVEZ sold the Venezuelans ELEVEN YEARS AGO and both counting ??

    How about his “CZARS” and the people in his cabinet ??

    I know damned well how they work and how they sell to pseudointellectuals of your kind their wares…

    It will pay for you to read and digest the opinion no less than WINSTON CHURCHILL had about what they call “SOCIALISM” …

    So you stated that, if people do not agree with the laws passed, they have the recourse of running to the Supreme Court…

    Ever read the Supreme Court definition of pornography ??

    IT WOULD MAKE YOU PUKE and since as a sample a single button suffice, I guess I will rest my case, as I did when I asked a lady what did she know about this
    parachuitist, OBAMA, to make her vote for him and she answered me :
    BECAUSE HE IS MY PARTY's CANDIDATE !!!
    Than I asked her :
    AND IF YOUR PARTY CHOOSES A MONKEY FOR PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR HIM ???
    And she answered me ;
    YES
    Then I said : I REST MY CASE

    But don't worry about.
    Lets wait for next year's Congress people election…

    Unless you people appeal to the tactics you already proven capable of employing, and regular people allow them to work, your Congress majority will hopefully be history and then we will see what happens, because a nation can shake off a rightist or conservative dictatorship…
    A lefistst or outright Communistic, only GOD can…! !

  • Elisa

    It's pretty clear what happened to our country. Hey Bubba, here's some history for you. Choke on it.

    Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
    January 10, 1963

    Current Communist Goals

    EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    Thursday, January 10, 1963

    Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

    At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

    [From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]

    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.

    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

  • jackbelias

    They have gone well beyond just making laws we disagree with. The supreme court is staffed with activists who cannot be trusted to put the constitution before their own opinion. Look who gets appointed to it by your sacred Obumble administration.

    The founders wouldnt have agreed with global warming taxation or a federal takeover of healthcare. Look at HR 45, not one founder would have seen that one as anything short of treason.

    Leftists are rewriting our history and our constitution to fit their extremist political agenda.

    I couldnt help but notice that my little cousins American history book didnt even mention the American revolution, the civil war or even our mission to the moon. It was simply filled with anti American resentment, anti colonial propaganda, and worship of the international community. Thats what kids learn today! This thanks to leftists you claim dont exist.

    Her teachers had filled her head with nonsense to the point of making her think that the taliban are heroic freedom fighters who want to stomp out racism and homophobia and empower women. She recommended that I join Islamic revolutionaries and kill my own fellow soldiers when I got here. One of her teachers had given her this advise to pass on to me upon hearing of my deployment orders. According to you democratic revolutionaries like her teachers dont exist at all. I know better as I had to try and explain away the democratic revolutionary lies they had filled her head with. The reaction I recieved from her was screaming, yelling, and crying! Youth in my own family are turned against me by sub human revolutionary vermin.

    You can never know true hatred that burns deep within your very soul until you have experienced this. I thank those revolutionaries for making things so clear to me, the hatred I feel strengthens my resolve. There is no need to disagree with revolutionaries in a PC way, there is no need to reason with or debate them. An enemy is an enemy and enemies can hardly be called countrymen.

    Her brainwashing is proof positive to me that there are indeed traitors working for the enemy in our midst. Martial law is the only right answere for this, leftists must be treated as enemy soldiers as they have freely decided to join the other side. Democratic revolutionaries are much like the Bundt traitors of the past and deserve at least the same treatment.

  • jackbelias

    They have gone well beyond just making laws we disagree with. The supreme court is staffed with activists who cannot be trusted to put the constitution before their own opinion. Look who gets appointed to it by your sacred Obumble administration.

    The founders wouldnt have agreed with global warming taxation or a federal takeover of healthcare. Look at HR 45, not one founder would have seen that one as anything short of treason.

    Leftists are rewriting our history and our constitution to fit their extremist political agenda.

    I couldnt help but notice that my little cousins American history book didnt even mention the American revolution, the civil war or even our mission to the moon. It was simply filled with anti American resentment, anti colonial propaganda, and worship of the international community. Thats what kids learn today! This thanks to leftists you claim dont exist.

    Her teachers had filled her head with nonsense to the point of making her think that the taliban are heroic freedom fighters who want to stomp out racism and homophobia and empower women. She recommended that I join Islamic revolutionaries and kill my own fellow soldiers when I got here. One of her teachers had given her this advise to pass on to me upon hearing of my deployment orders. According to you democratic revolutionaries like her teachers dont exist at all. I know better as I had to try and explain away the democratic revolutionary lies they had filled her head with. The reaction I recieved from her was screaming, yelling, and crying! Youth in my own family are turned against me by sub human revolutionary vermin.

    You can never know true hatred that burns deep within your very soul until you have experienced this. I thank those revolutionaries for making things so clear to me, the hatred I feel strengthens my resolve.

    Her brainwashing is proof positive to me that there are indeed traitors working for the enemy in our midst. Martial law is the only right answere for this, leftists must be treated as enemy soldiers as they have freely decided to join the other side. Democratic revolutionaries are much like the Bundt traitors of the past and deserve at least the same treatment.

  • jacob

    Well, what who signs JACKBELIAS writes to BUBBA4 about the rewritting of history, bears a striking resemblance to what the CHAVEZ 21st Century “Socialism”
    is doing to the education in VENEZUELA and satellites, under advise of CASTRO..

    What about all those who want to remove the embargo on CASTRO's regime ???

    And Bubba4 has the chrome-plated brass balls to state there are no communists galore in the ANNOITED ONE Administration, trying to impose their doctrine no matter how…

    Bubba4 : what about the bribes passed on to legislators in order to get them to
    approve the OBAMACARE ??

    Is it also Democratic or rather 'DEMOCRAPPY” ????

    ABSLUTELY ALL OF YOU ARE ROTTEN TO THE CORE !!!!

  • bubba4

    Winston Churchill was also the creator of the NHS (the Nation Health Service) in Britian.

    Reconcile that you bonehead.

  • bubba4

    You don't even know what “Communism” means. Enjoy your time in prison.

  • bubba4

    The Supreme Court is pretty conservative at the moment. We will be lucky if they don't give corporations the ability to donate money to political campaigns (unlimited).

    As for your examples…I think you're a raving retard and a liar to boot. I don't believe a thing you say. You should seek help.

  • Elisa

    HEY BUBBA…. HERE'S SOME HISTORY FOR YA. CHOKE ON IT YOU RAVING LIBTARD COMMIE.

    SEEK HELP IN YOUR COMMIE RUN WELFARE PSYCHIATRIC CLINIC YOU DIRTY ROTTEN COMMIE.

    Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
    January 10, 1963

    Current Communist Goals

    EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    Thursday, January 10, 1963

    Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

    At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

    [From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]

    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.

    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

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    It will probably be available at your nearest library that is a federal repository. Call them and ask them.

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    Click here to see them listed with brain-challenging comments.

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    88th Congress, 1st Session
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    California State University at San Jose, Clark Library stacks call number:
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    Book title page:
    Skousen, W. Cleon. Naked Communist
    Salt Lake City, Utah: Ensign Publishing Co.
    C. 1961 , 9th edition July 1961.

  • bubba4

    So, 50 years ago they entered this excerpt from Skousen's book into the record…OK…and what? What is this suppose to tell me?

    What does it tell you? That some master trap is closing around you?

  • jacob

    TO BUBBA4 :

    SO WHAT IF HE WAS, AS YOU SAY, THE FOUNDER OF THE NHC ??

    DOES IT MAKE HIM A FELLOW TRAVELER LIKE YOU, SUPERGENIUS ??

    AND HOW ABOUT HIS DEFINITION OF “SOCIALISM” ???

  • Elisa

    You need to print it out and shove it up that ASS you call a face and choke on it.

    THAT'S WHAT IT TELLS ME.

    Oh, and you will, BUBBA. YOU WILL.

  • bubba4

    Don't get mad. Explain your post or you're just another raving moron.

  • bubba4

    Stop reposting this…yes…I see that it exists…at some point they read this into the record..

    Thanks for posting it as if it were a grand revelation.

  • bubba4

    SO WHAT IF HE WAS, AS YOU SAY, THE FOUNDER OF THE NHC ??

    As I say? No…it's a fact. He CHAMPIONED its creation in political fights in his own country after the war. Why don't you reconcile it. It would be good for you. Too many of you are so caught up in the neo-redscare that you've lost the ability to reason anymore. You don't know communism from socialism from a mixed economy (which is what we have). You're just mad as hell at something.

    “DOES IT MAKE HIM A FELLOW TRAVELER LIKE YOU, SUPERGENIUS ??”

    “Fellow traveler?” Can't you express your own thoughts without pulling from the FPM phrasebook?

  • Elisa

    A PERFECT EXAMPLE why I do not have to “Explain” my post. Only an idiot Commie would have to ask.

    Hey Bubba, How's it feel to be the BIGGEST “raving moron” on the planet?

    It must suck to be You.

  • bubba4

    “A PERFECT EXAMPLE why I do not have to “Explain” my post.”

    Well, um…it's an internet forum…aren't you posting to express your views? You copied a pasted a huge excerpt from “the Naked Communist”. Now you can't seem to bring yourself to tell us what you think it means and why you posted it.

    “Only an idiot Commie would have to ask.”

    Boy, now I'm a commie…just like anyone who cuts you off in traffic.

    “Hey Bubba, How's it feel to be the BIGGEST “raving moron” on the planet? It must suck to be You.”

    So you're fourteen years old?

  • jacob

    TO BUBBA4 :

    ELISA IS WRONG…

    YOU ARE NOT A MORON BY ANY STREAK OF THE IMAGINATION..

    ON THE CONTRARY, YOU DESERVE MY RESPECT

    YOU ARE JUST A “FELLOW TRAVELER” AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU
    ONCE THE “PROCESS” TAKING PLACE, GOD FORBID AND REAL PEOPLE ALLOW IT, ACCOMPLISHES ITS GOALS

  • jackbelias

    I know exactly what it is brat. I happen to be a history buff, its a cheap hobby for a guy who deploys as much as he can.

    To easily led youth movement retards like you communism is a promise of absolute utopia where everybody dives a sports car, everybody has a beach house in Malibu, and all aspects of life become fair. Human nature goes away and we become a collective species that never feels anger, depression, fear, or hate.

    The historical reality doesnt look like the utopia youth dream of. Communist regimes gain power by dividing communities into tight knit factions while radicalizing their youth. Each faction is told that the other factions have caused all of the ills of the world, and that destroying the other without mercy will lead to peace and social justice for all. Misery and starvation are created on purpose as horror and desperation leads to mindless idiots who seek salvation from the very same monsters who created the problem in the first place. A need for equality and fairness is preached to the starving masses, while communist leadership lives a life of luxury at their expense.

    The children of poor families are doomed to dig the ditches like dad, while the spoiled seed of leadership are set to inherit cushy posts and living conditions worlds better than the public. Royalty families rule with an iron fist and imprison any lower form of life who dares to speak out.

    The only outcome is misery, incarceration, and mass graves, yet your idiot youth movement still cling to the empty promises of human monsters who want to benefit from your misery. You almost deserve it for being so stupid.

    There are many books on the subject matter, but you wont benefit from them as they arent as interesting to you as MTV videos or biased hollywood productions. Books are fascist and square and are only read by evil right wing republicans according to you.

    “The Alexander Dolgen Story” for example was in truth more interesting than hollywood fiction, so was “Ninas Journey, A Memoir of Stalins Russia and WW2″ Your generation will never discover such historical (and unfortunatly out of print) non fiction gems, you will never know how boring many of your action movies are in comparison.

  • bubba4

    I was making a funny before…because you're one of the chest pounders that likes to all but say you are going to hurt someone because of the perceived Communist threat.

    “To easily led youth movement retards like you communism is a promise of absolute utopia where everybody dives a sports car, everybody has a beach house in Malibu, and all aspects of life become fair.”

    Well here is part of your problem. You assume what other people are thinking and feeling and give them philosophies and motives. Many of you are armed identically…ready and willing to fight but only if the opponent is a die-hard commuinst. So you just make anyone that rubs you the wrong way a commie and break out the old tool set.

    I have been posting on this forum for many years on and off. I have been called a communist countless times but I have never, ever supported communism, said I liked it, or advanced any of it's ideas. I have always been a staunch supporter of the free market and I am a business owner. For some of you, just disagreeing with an article is a communist act. You guys are getting into psuedo-religious territory. You don't see the forest for the boogeyman.

    The only qualification you need to start accusing everyone else of being a communist (for arbitrary reasons)…is to assume the cultic, self-righteous power it takes to be that kind of dick.

    “Books are fascist and square and are only read by evil right wing republicans according to you.”

    According to me? WTF are you talking about? Is this something I said during one of your blackouts?

  • jackbelias

    Oh but not long ago you wanted us to know that there have never been any communists in America. You informed us that all of the talk of communist activity was all just made up republican propaganda.

    My cousins school teachers cant exist according to you. Perhaps her public school doesnt exist either? Maybe there arent any public schools anywhere in America? Thank you for opening our eyes to more republican propaganda. Seeing our youth put their book bags on and leave for the bus in the morning has been a figment of our imaginations.

    More evil republican propaganda that never happened:

    1. 9/11/2001
    2. The Taliban
    3. extremist political partisanship within Americas teachers unions. Including warm and fuzzy relationships with Hamas.
    4. Howard Zinns “Peoples History”.
    5. Honor killings
    6. Female genital mutilation
    7. UN involvement in the human sexual slavery trade.
    8. Continued black slave trading and genocide by muslim arabs in darfur
    9. The latest bombing attempt aboard an aircraft on christmas day.
    10. Emma Kaplins well paid for trips to American public schools where she begs children to join Islamic extremists in an overthrow of the capitalist American government.
    11. Obumbles continued use of contractors in Iraq, as the work dwindles the contractors become more numerous while demanding 8000.00 per month as a starting salary to do the same job I do for 3000.00 per month.
    etc…

    In your little democratic world such things are all made up by republicans. The world is black and white, there are only good guys and bad guys. The good guys are all “victim” classes who have never done wrong and the bad guys are all fascist Americans over 25 who dare to fight terrorism as it doesnt exist.

    You can point fingers at adults and yell “RETARD” all you want, it only exposes you as a clueless disrespectful kid.

    Maybe some day your tax dollars will fund a school that tells youth in your family that youre a rapist and a murderer, a racist who victimizes innocent Islamic extremists who only want peace and harmony. I wonder what your reaction would be. Would you apologize to the childs teachers and promise to be more progressive in the future? Would you do as I do and point out that they are traitors working for the enemy during a time of war?

  • jackbelias

    I never threatened offensive violent acts against leftists. Not that I would cry about them being commited, but I think the strategy counterproductive.

    The best way to fight the left is to use non violent actions that cause its youth base to boil over. Defeating healthcare BS, attempting to nominate Palin, paying informants within their factions to make public their dirty laundry, etc… are great ways to drive them to wreckless acts of violence. Reactionary violence seen as a justified defensive act can then take place. When the common man sees the destructive mob burning down cities, attacking speakers, bombing buildings, and shooting political rivals he wont see them as Americans who simply practice constitutional rights. The common man will feel compelled to take action, political violence is best when it is defensive and isnt party based.

    My only want is a restoration of the republic so many died to build. America was built with the blood and bodies of its fallen, not spoiled activist shitheads with big trust funds. Of course I hate such people, of course I label them with negative terms. Many of them really are marxists so Im not so wrong to point it out.

    What leftists push for is far from what our constitution and bill of rights intended. This nation is worth fighting for a thousand more times. It wont be won back by debates with hollywood movie stars, supreme court challenges to posted leftists, or even any election.

    The sentence about books was supposed to read “……. according to youth”. It wasnt supposed to be a statement about you.

  • kell

    You guys have been brainwashed-

    I agree America is heading for communism, but if you think Obama is the reason then you're a victim of our corrupted media. Our media, that reports important news to help keep our democracy running-they're owned by about 5 CONSERVATIVE corporations. They choose what you hear, when you hear it, how you hear it…THEY shape your view to advance the agenda of the elite ruling class and THEY DON'T LIKE OBAMA. Why? Because what he believes works for the people, not the ruling class.

  • Ed

    Damn Commies!! Merry Christmas everybody!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7FTJfscA0Y