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On Monday, May 10, Editor-in-Chief David Horowitz gave a talk at UC San Diego to counter the Muslim Students Association’s Israeli Apartheid Week. (Horowitz made a point to properly describe the event as “Hitler Youth” week.) He was literally giving his speech at the same time as notorious anti-Semite Norman Finkelstein.

During the Question and Answer period Horowitz had a chilling exchange with a member of the MSA in which he prodded her to reveal the depraved depths of her Jew-hatred. What’s shocking is not so much that she holds such views, but rather that she was willing to admit it:

(Watch video here.)

Transcript:

MSA member: Good evening, I just wanted to say thank you for coming to campus tonight and presenting your point of view, its always important to have to sets of, ah, views going on at the same time. Um, very useful.  My name is Jumanah Imad Albahri and I’m a student here at UCSD. Ah I was reading your literature, I found that much more interesting than your talk, and I found some interesting things about the MSA, which is an organization that is very active on campus and is hosting our annual “Hitler Youth” week, you should come out to those events. Um, if you could clarify the connection between the MSA and Jihad terrorist networks, because last time I checked, we had to do our own fundraising, and we never get help from anyone.  So if you could clarify the connection between UCSD’s MSA or if you don’t have such information, if you could connect other MSA’s on UC’s, because the connection wasn’t to clear in the pamphlet, just if you could clarify.

Horowitz: Okay.  Will you condemn Hamas, here and now?

MSA member: I’m sorry, what?

Horowitz: Will you condemn Hamas?

MSA member: Would I condemn Hamas?

Horowitz: As a terrorist organization.  Genocidal organization.

MSA member: Are you asking me to put myself on a cross?

Horowitz: So you won’t.  I have actually had this experience many times.  You didn’t actually read the pamphlet, because the pamphlet is chapter and verse. The main connection is that the MSA is part of the Muslim Brotherhood Network as revealed…

MSA member: I don’t think you understood what I meant by that.  I meant if I say something, I am sure that I will be arrested, for reasons of homeland security.  So if you could please just answer my question.

Horowitz: If you condemn Hamas, Homeland Security will arrest you?

MSA member: If I support Hamas, because your question forces me to condemn Hamas.  If I support Hamas, I look really bad.

Horowitz: If you don’t condemn Hamas, obviously you support it.  Case closed.  I have had this experience at UC Santa Barbara, where there were 50 members of the Muslim Students Association sitting right in the rows there.  And throughout my hour talk I kept asking them, will you condemn Hizbollah and Hamas. And none of them would.  And then when the question period came, the president of the Muslim Students Association was the first person to ask a question. And I said, ‘Before you start, will you condemn Hizbollah?’ And he said, ‘Well, that question is too complicated for a yes or no answer.’  So I said, ‘Okay, I’ll put it to you this way.  I am a Jew.  The head of Hizbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally.  For or Against it?

MSA member: For it.

Horowitz: Thank you for coming and showing everybody what’s here.

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This is the reality of what we’re facing today. We are in a global struggle with Islamic Nazis who brazenly, openly advocate a second holocaust. We are at war with a totalitarian enemy that seeks world domination.

There is really only one question that’s relevant after you’ve watched this video: What are you going to do about this? How are you going to participate in the fight against Nazism? What are you going to do so that “Never Again” really means Never Again?

Update: Thanks to Pamela Geller who linked and who has more on the truth about the “Palestinian Cause” at Atlas Shrugs.

  • Thad

    What's even scarier? We've elected one of them president.

  • BS1977

    What a fat ugly stuffed with hatred girl this is….in her obligatory scarf, her heavy wool coat, her smug, arrogant puffy totally non sensual face…her cold, calculating hatred of the United States, of Israel, of Christianity, of the West….yet permitted to live in the US, go to college and spew her toxic, genocidal venom as our politicians stand paralyzed, unable to end the insane immigration policies that allowed the 1993 and 2001 WTC attackers easy entry to our nation. What is a creature like this doing in a US college, living on US soil? PC liberalism has welcomed the Trojan Horse of terror, sharia and all the rest of this scourge …right into our country.

  • Classmate

    I went to school with this girl and I see it as a dirty move by Horowitz to only give her two choices on her stance. Obviously he does not see that everything in the world isn't just 100 percent this or 100 percent that. You can conditionally agree with something without fully supporting it.

    • Isaac

      so you can "conditionally" agree with the Holocaust?

    • Dirk

      please explain how one can conditionally agree to hoping that all Jews come to Israel so they don't have to be hunted down elsewhere and not also support genocide?

    • ami

      maybe not in every situation we can have one of the two choices.
      but the fatso chose one situation out of the two and it was horrible
      i am not a jew neither a christian and perhaps can leave this conversation
      but i am amused and horrified that in its quest for freedom; americans are allowing such venomious snakes to live amidst its citizens.No wonder US citizens hear your heart-thoughts and Iraq suffers the results. Got to hell suckers!

  • Quixotic

    Thought you might like to see what the girl is saying online about the incident:
    http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?t

    She is of course too stupid to realize how evil she is,

    • carmachu

      That thread made my head hurt and made no sense.

  • amit

    islam makes muslims suffer as well. Ruled by dynastic monarchs and dictators; its people live in shambles, terror, fear and uncertainity. There is indeed full blown tribal, feudal structure in islam endorsed religiously.

  • humanamit

    hi

    the girl is mindless

  • david levy

    I think that if we win the war against the islamist apologists or the two state solution folks we need to have other tools that simply tax them as anti semites or holocaust deniars. These are too easy and can't be proven and they are also baseless and simply stupid. We need new weapons such as an intelligent argumentation.
    Why don't argue around the idea of how would a 2 states solution be better than ethnic cleasing or does a one state solution really need to be democratic etc…..Or is international law really a source of law for israel etc….
    Find new tools. The old accusations of holocaust denial etc…..are not taken seriously anymore. If we shall prevail in this debate we need to raise ourselves to a new high and
    counter attack with philosophical panache!!!!!

  • RationalGuy

    Hi would very strongly urge you people to fight against ISLAMIC APARTHEID AND ENCOURAGE SECULARISM IN ISLAMIC NATIONS
    In most Muslim countries where Islam is the majority religion it is also the STATE RELIGION.
    In several of these offences against the state religion (blasphemy,conversion etc) are punishable by DEATH
    Women and non Muslims live in a 2nd class existence
    If that is not discrimination and APARTHEID , what is
    Israel is an OECD liberal democracy. Insults to Judaism are not punishable by death. Jews usually form startups, not suicide bomber factories.
    I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THEN HOW THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR TOLERANCE IS ON ISRAEL AND NOT ON SAUDI AND IRAN AND PAKI..

  • RationalGuy

    So SECULARISM and DEMOCRACY are the tools that CAN BREAK THE LOOP and we should really focus all our efforts on telling them to make their countries SECULAR.
    Please feel free to paste this or use and repeat the message along similar lines wherever you can. Hopefully we can make this demand go viral.
    As for the young lady – Mark Twain said Education is replacing an empty mind with an open one, in her case the empty mind is replaced with an Islamo flu more dangerous than Swine Flu. It tends to affect many young Muslims and spreads through TV channels like Al Jazeera. May the Lord help us

  • Constantine

    I am a Christian who grew up next to a family of holocaust survivors and developed a strong bond with them. As I learned more about the evil that was perpetrated against the Jews throughout history I became a staunch supporter of Israel.

    Later when I was older I learned that my family had survived the Turkish genocide against Christians in Anatolia during the period of 1894-1923 when millions of Greeks and Amenians were murdered or forced into exile. My grandfather never spoke of what they went through until his last years.

    I have the utmost respect for the Jewish people and see Islam for what it is since we also suffered from the fanaticism inherent in their ideology. My hope is that the Jewish and Christian people can unite in their support for each other against the scourge of Islamic ideology. It would be smart for Israel to reconsider their ties with Turkey and take a moral stance to acknowledge the genocide that was carried out against the Christians in Anatolia.

    • Jesuit

      Since you want to pull things from the past, let me join you in putting on my crusader gear.

  • sam

    http://fortruthforjustice.wordpress.com/
    This is a statement from Jumannah AlBahri. I think this issue is blown out of proportion, and everyone should consider the fact that Horowitz is an extremely narrow minded individual with a gift in provoking people. Please read this and hear what she is saying…

  • Amani

    HEY IF ANYONE WANTS TO CHECK OUT GIRL'S OFFICIAL RESPONSE IS CHECK OUT:

    fortruthforjustice. wordpress . com
    this is not spam. read it. stop being ignorant

  • Amani Albahri

    HEY IF ANYONE WANTS TO CHECK OUT GIRL'S OFFICIAL RESPONSE IS CHECK OUT:

    fortruthforjustice. wordpress . com

  • Amani Albahri

    HEY IF ANYONE WANTS TO CHECK OUT GIRL'S OFFICIAL RESPONSE IS CHECK OUT:

    fortruthforjustice. wordpress . com

  • Abdul
    • carmachu

      Read it. DOnt believe it.

  • Reason

    I think we should hear from the woman herself: http://fortruthforjustice.wordpress.com/
    I understand where she is coming from, especially when put in such a tight situation. What I was getting from her that she was not in total support of Hamas or Hezbollah, but she did not want to condemn them because they are fighting for the peace of her people. Horowitz puts her in a position to choose one or the other: basically, admit that her people's defense (her opinion) against Israeli occupation is what America labels "terrorism," effectively making the war and the death of her people in vain, or, what she said, claiming to be a genocidal herself and anti-semitic. I think if I were put in this situation, it would be tough, because it's a "you" or "them" question. I think this question could be asked to pro-Israel people too, by switching Hezbollah with Israel and Jews with Muslims. You can say that the Israeli's don't aim to exterminate Muslims, but from reading these comments, it's pretty obvious what is the consensus, it's just not explicitly stated. That's probably one thing that I can admire about the Hezbollah, their honesty. What Horowitz did seemed carefully planned out, because it incriminates the woman regardless of her answer, and doesn't seem to advance an intellectual argument, but merely set it two steps. Horowitz takes advantage as the U.S. defining Hamas and Hezbollah: the woman doesn't think that Hamas is terrorist, but by answering Horowitz question differently, would be succumbing to the opponents view (if only verbally). Honestly, this is a disgusting tactic. You don't have to be Muslim to see what an attack and trap this was for the woman. It's funny, that media protrays Israel as democratic, free, AMERICAN, but it's things that these that me me reconsider. Horowitz might have won all the shallow minded people who take things for face value, but for those who are not so biased and reasoned, this is clearly just a question asking "Are you a terrorist, or is your cause terrorism?" Please don't give me the, "I'm not discriminate," this is clearly a hate sight. You can show me videos of Muslims hating and terrorizing and doing all sorts of things, and I will wholeheartedly agree with you that stoning a woman who was raped to death is inhumane and totally unjustified, but I will not stand for ignorance. And here I was just trying to get a little bit more information on what happened…

  • bob

    i am a wahabi ahlusunna and i hate Jews and do not condemn anything, i my self don't do anything but go hamas kill them Jews wahooo

  • Sarina Lemkus Kopinsky

    1) It seems this campus hosts student clubs whose goal is to murder other students! Other colleges also or this college only?

    2) “Two points of view .. very useful” = “You want to live; I want to murder you.”

    3) This terrorist publicly stated her support for Hamas’s craving to kill the Jew she was talking to and every Jew in the world. She predicted this opinion would get her “crucified” by Homeland Security. Did she in fact get in trouble with Homeland Security – does anyone know?

    4) Watch her blame the Jew she hates for the predicted trouble. ‘You, Mr. Jew, want me dead (as proved by you asking me the provocative question whether I
    support Hamas), therefore you, Mr. Jew, are a terrorist.’

    5) She asks Mr. Jew to please guide her in her fundraising efforts for Hitler Youth Week!

    6) She invites the audience to attend Hitler Youth Week events – is this like inviting the turkey to be a guest at Thanksgiving dinner?

    7) Watch her employ a pseudo-academic style (“Will you please answer my question”) to command Mr. Jew to calmly, fluently and dispassionately debate with her, just seconds after she has expressed her wish to exterminate him. She does not grant him even a moment of panic attack or terror at being targeted.

    8) He points out that her kafiya neck scarf is a symbol of terrorism and she acknowledges this to be so. Equivalent, then, to wearing a swastika to a Jewish event, as opposed to the headscarf, which I suppose could in theory be for religious modesty. (TSA, please take note: No profiling of head scarves, only kafiyas and swastikas.)

    9) She lacks etiquette by attending this meeting where he is the featured speaker at the podium; she rudely tells him his speech was less interesting than the literature materials handed out.

    10) In the world of PC-ness, which is a greater crime: bad manners to your host or planning to genocidally murder him and his entire demographic group?