The Hypocrisy of a Peace Process

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And that it is Islamic supremacism has become clear in recent weeks to all but the most staunchly self-deceiving Israelis. First UNESCO endorsed Palestinian claims that the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron, and Rachel’s Tomb in Bethlehem—shrines to the archetypal mothers and fathers of the Jewish nation—are “Palestinian” and the latter, indeed, a mosque.

From there it was only one further step to de-Judaizing, and Islamicizing, the Western Wall itself.

In other words, the reason the PA doesn’t like Jewish building—either current or ancient—in Jerusalem is that it doesn’t like the Jewish presence in the land at all.

Such an insight could, of course, shed light on why the “peace process” is nowhere and enable the administration to stop pressuring and berating Israel in the name of a chimera.

It could also clarify the link between the growing persecution of Christians in Iraq, Egypt, the Palestinian Authority, and elsewhere in the Middle East and the fundamental Palestinian rejection of Israel.

It is hard, though, to imagine the State Department, or the president, undergoing such a conceptual shift. More likely Crowley’s words were but a flash in the pan, prompted by a tide of anger at the PA that had risen too high to just ignore.

Some illusions can’t be dislodged even when reality stares them in the face.

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  • Robert Laity

    Obama is an anti-semitic radical Islamist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUaGe63Aqv4

  • jaythehistorian

    George Gilder ,author of the "Israel Test" has the best explanation of how absolutely phony the "Peace process" is. To paraphrase him : If the unwillingness of the Muslim trespassers and their willing executioners to make peace with Israel could be solved by adding some real estate to the deal , there would have been peace 60 years ago. This is not about real estate. It is about Islam's total intolerance of other religions. The Koran explicitly states infidels who refuse to convert to Islam , can only be allowed to live , by accepting Dhimmi status . This is 5th class citizenship. Since the Jews of Israel , have the incredible chutzpah (sarcasm) to desire control of a tiny piece of land they have been subjected to unrelenting warfare for the past 62 years.

  • muchiboy

    “State Department spokesman P. J. Crowley called this “factually incorrect, insensitive and highly provocative…..We have repeatedly raised with the Palestinian Authority leadership the need to consistently combat all forms of delegitimization of Israel, including denying historic Jewish connections to the land.”

    Remarkable how the state department spokesman can call such remarks "insensitive",accusing the Palestinian spokesperson of "delegitimization of Israel",this of a Zionist state whose European settlers occupied Palestine and ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians,denying them their homeland and birthright.Shows Amerikka for what it is.Muchiboy

    • USMCSniper

      How's this for insensitive but accurate. The Palestinians are the Arab Muslim States proxy terrorists who strap munitions on their own women and children and send them out on homicide-suicide missions to murder other innocent women and children in markets, restuarants, on school buses, and in their homes. The Palestinians in their own words and by their actions are committed to the genocide of the Jewish people therefore, have foreited their rights to even exist at all let alone having a UN and US sanctioned terrorist state of tehir own.

    • Ted

      What a revisionist tool you are…free arab occupied Sumaria and Judea

      • Ted

        Sorry USMCSniper, this was meant for muchiboy

    • ajnn

      Interestingly, the majority of jews in Israel have lived in the Middle East continuously for thousands of years and have no ties; current or past, to Europe.

      The Palestinian Authority insists that no more than 700,000 jews lived in Israel in 1948. Then some one million (1,000,000) Arab Jews came to Israel from elsewhere in the Middle East as refugees.

      The obsession with white Europe is racist. These brown refugee jews are just as much citizens as the white jews. Only racists refuse to count non-white people in favor of white.

      Again, Muchiboy makes another in a long line of racist posts.

      • MixMChess

        Even famous revisionist historian Benny Morrison admits that the Israelis never ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Its all a lie made up by the blood-thirsty Arabs.

    • MixMChess

      "Zionist state whose European settlers occupied Palestine and ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians,denying them their homeland and birthright."

      More lies from Ron Grant… First of all, Jews have always had a continuous presence in the land of Israel. From Herod to the Crusades to the Malmuks to the British Mandate, Jews have lived in Israel. Jerusalem, Safed, Jaffa, Hebron and even Nablus all had a continuous Jewish presence for thousands of years.

      Second, Israel never ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. You have admitted as much and recognize this is a lie. The fact that you still repeat it just shows you want to defame Jews and are a raving antisemite lunatic.

      Last, Israel was never the Palestinians homeland and they have no birthright to Jewish land. The Palestinians have a birthright to Arab lands in Arabia, Iraq and Jordan, the areas from which they originally emigrated from.

      • highpressure

        Actually the “Arab” nations doubles the Hebrew population in 1949 -1950 when they kicked the Jews (non-european Jews) out of their homes and sent them to Israel.

        By that single cowardly act of Israel’s enemies, Israel’s enemies themselves legitimized the terretory as The Soveriegn Nation of Israel. To include any land taken by Israel everytime they are cowardly attacked by a enemy using illigitimate reasons and methods.

        And there is no ethical or moral reason that Israel should give land to their enemy. And their is absolutely no moral or ethical reason they should even sit down and talk to their enemy about that subject while their cowardly and illigitimate enemy is still involved in planning a total destruction of the State of Israel as well as Jews and Christians in the mid East period.

        Hence, those who beleive to the contrary are either fools, mis-informed or have no moral or ethical basis.

        Am I wrong?

    • CanadConserv

      the Arabs invaded and displaced the Jews, the land's indigebous people, 1400 years ago. Yes, the Romans had first. But some stayed. Others gradually moved back.

      And a large percentage of those "refugees" had only moved there in the previous few decades, to take advantage of the lifestyle offered by British and Jewish industry and services.

      And, as you know, many who fled did so at the behest of the Arab invaders, planning on an immediate return once the Jews were driven into the sea.

      If the Arabs had not invaded, all those living there would remain. As it is, and as you, there are over 1 million Israeli Arabs.

      • fuzzywzhe

        There are 2 British census reports from 1922 and 1931 that divide the area up into "Jewish" and "Arab" demographics.

        It's blatantly obvious who the indigenous people of the area are.

    • fuzzywzhe

      You can't talk reason to Neocons. It's like trying to explain to the KKK that just because somebody is black, doesn't mean they are subhuman

  • muchiboy

    "The Palestinians in their own words and by their actions are committed to the genocide of the Jewish people therefore, have foreited their rights to even exist at all let alone having a UN and US sanctioned terrorist state of tehir own.."

    Zionists and Jews have little room to talk after what they have done to the Palestinian people in terms of occupation and ethnic cleansing.My accusations against the Americans still stand vis a vis adding insult to injury,much like boycotting Hamas until they recognize Israels right to exist.Hamas and the Palestinian people have every right to "recognize the wrong " of Israel's existence.muchiboy

    • bostonian

      Much can you please clarify who are the palestinian people? Are those that love death more than jews life? Am i right. or you talking about different people?

      • MixMChess

        The so-called Palestinians themselves admit that their "people-hood" is a complete fabrication. Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein stated as such as early as 1977:

        "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism."

        Seems pretty clear to me!

    • Ted

      The Arab muslims living in the west bank and the gaza strip have reaped what they have sown. Go back and read some factual history will you!

      • Baruch Hashem Adonai

        Don't bother with him. He's still mad about his lack of any sound argument against C Glick.

        • BoogiesDaddy

          The dramatic rise in population in Gaza makes "ethnic cleansing" a pretty idiotic claim. Also unlike the Gazan's, Israel has a history of getting jobs done.
          If they were at all about "ethnic cleansing" (where did that term originate?) the place wouold be clean by now.
          Obviously it isn't.
          Remember that those poor displaced "Palestinians" refused a homeland when it was offered to them…..Israel embraced a homeland.

    • MixMChess

      You are making up lies again Ron. Jews cannot occupy their own land and Israel never committed ethnic cleansing.

      The Palestinians on the other hand are committed to ethnic cleansing of the Jews. For example during the Passover Massacre of 2002, a Palestinian suicide bomber killed 27 civilians and maimed another 140 when he blew himself in the dining room of a hotel in Netanya during a meal to celebrate the Jewish festival of Passover. I only wish that next time you sat down for dinner you had to look over your shoulder and worry about whether you would live through the meal.

      There is nothing wrong with Israel's existence. There is however something wrong with the existence of you and your ilk. Do us all a favor and go play in traffic, okay?

    • highpressure

      It’s funny, before the mid 60′s – Palestinians were known to be Jews.

      It took a pediophile, bad engineer, mass murderer, thieving Egyptian by the name of Arafat to make it mean everybody but Jews.

      Someone try to convince me that we don’t live in the Age of the Sociopath.

      Just an Observation.

  • muchiboy

    "Interestingly, the majority of jews in Israel have lived in the Middle East continuously for thousands of years and have no ties; current or past, to Europe."

    So have the majority of Palestinian Arabs.Jews and Arabs are cousins.I am pointing out the fact that tens of thousands of European Jews (Diaspora) occupied and displaced similar numbers of Palestinian Arabs.I accuse these Jews of occupation.I likewise accuse Israel of De facto ethnic cleansing similar to the Israeli "facts on the ground".Occupation and ethnic cleansing in my context here may seem pejorative and they are meant to be.I believe these accusations are indeed arguable,not merely rhetorical,as I have argued in past posts,and been debated in kind.
    Interestingly,I recall an observation by Golda Meir in her autobiography of the prominence of Yiddish in the early Jewish/Israeli cabinet /political circles.Muchiboy .

    • MixMChess

      "So have the majority of Palestinian Arabs."

      You are a liar Ron Grant. Palestinians and Arabs have not lived continuously in land for thousands of years let alone hundreds of years. The Palestinians were made up of foreigners who had occupied the region only beginning in the 19th century (at the same time the Jews were returning to their birthright homeland). Even revisionist historian Benny Morris has acknowledged this: "The Ottomans transferred tens of thousands of Muslims from the empire's northern and Balkan peripheries (Bukhara, the Caucasus, Albania and Bosnia) to its Levantine core, including Lebanon, Syria and Palestine."

      Circassian refugees settled in Palestine after 1878; Turkoman tribes from Iraq arrived in the same period; Arab Yemenites settled in the Jaffa area in 1908.

      In fact the colonialist British shipped in the most Arabs. After World War I, the British Army of Occupation brought in thousands of Egyptians for police duties and building projects. Britain brought 30,000 foreign Arab workers into Palestine to assist in the war effort during World War II, at a time when it had closed off immigration to Jews.

    • MixMChess

      "I am pointing out the fact that tens of thousands of European Jews (Diaspora) occupied and displaced similar numbers of Palestinian Arabs."

      No Ron Grant, you are reiterating a LIE not pointing out a fact. Big difference.

      First of all, Jews had already been returning to Palestine for two millennia. The Jews returning in the 19th and 20th centuries were merely part of this age-old pattern.

      Second, the land the Jews purchased and settled on was barren and tenant-free. Even revisionist historian Benny Morris notes that "most purchases were of large, relatively empty, mostly uncultivated tracts from absentee [landlords]."

      Third, Arabs were never displaced… again, revisionist historian Benny Morris notes that: "only several thousand' families were displaced following land sales to Jews between the 1880'sand the late 1930's." The Annual [British] Mandate Report of 1935 showed that the dispossessed Arabs represented about three-fifths of 1 percent of the rural non-Jewish population as shown by the 1931 census. Basically amounting to a few thousand families. And the few Arabs who were displaced were handsomely compensated by the Jews.

    • MixMChess

      "I accuse these Jews of occupation."

      I accuse you of being an ignorant twit. Jews cannot occupy their own land.

      "I likewise accuse Israel of De facto ethnic cleansing similar to the Israeli "facts on the ground"."

      You are a liar Ron Grant, Israel never engaged in de-jure or de-facto ethnic cleansing. You have previously admitted this is a lie. I guess you just want to defame Jews huh?

  • muchiboy

    "Jews cannot occupy their own land and Israel never committed ethnic cleansing."

    You are saying the Diaspora have a God /UN given right of return,MixMChess?
    In the same breath,you deny the same right of return to the Palestinian people.I simply do not see the fairness,humanity nor legality of your unconscionable position.Muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      "You are saying the Diaspora have a God /UN given right of return,MixMChess?"

      Not at all… as I have stated before, all Jews have a historical, archeological and legal (based on international legal precedent more so than U.N. mandate) birthright to return to Israel. Don't try to put words in my mouth Ron Grant, you are not clever enough to do that.

      "In the same breath,you deny the same right of return to the Palestinian people."

      What historical connection do the Palestinians have to the land? What archeological evidence shows history of a "Palestinian" culture? What international legal authority or legal precedent grants the "Palestinians" a right to the Jewish land? None, None and None.

      "I simply do not see the fairness,humanity nor legality of your unconscionable position."

      Don't even attempt to argue legality with me boy. My position is fair to all sides. Jews have a birthright to the land of Israel. Arabs have a birthright to the land of Arabia. Plain and simple.

  • muchiboy

    "you want to defame Jews and are a raving antisemite lunatic."

    Antisemitic lunatic,eh? Well,now I have a perfectly good excuse for my Antisemitism,MixMChess.I want you as my lawyer when I am dragged before the courts on such charges.Muchiboy

  • muchiboy

    "the Arabs invaded and displaced the Jews, the land's indigebous people, 1400 years ago. Yes, the Romans had first. But some stayed. Others gradually moved back."

    canadconserv,sure there is lots of history here,going back thousands of years.All I want to see is justice and fairness for the Palestinian people who were victims of Zionism sixty years ago.Just share their own land with them.Muchiboy

    • Henach

      "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades." — Arab League Sec. Gen. Azzam Pasha, May 15, 1948, the day five Arab armies invaded the new state of Israel.

      Only someone willfully blind would not see that the intended victims of a momentous massacre have the right to defend themselves, and that the wannabe massacre-makers have blame for the consequences of their actions

      • Spirit_Of_1683

        When it comes to Naziboy, Israel's Jews have no more right to defend themselves than what Jews in wartime Europe had 70 years ago. He won't be happy until the global population of Jews is zero.

    • MixMChess

      "All I want to see is justice and fairness for the Palestinian people who were victims of Zionism sixty years ago."

      More empty rhetoric from Ron Grant. Palestinians are not victims. Arabs already illegally possess 80% of the Jewish National Homeland. The Jews have shared enough. It is time for the Arabs to share their land with the Jews.

    • CanadConserv

      those who stayed are still there. Those who left haven't returned. Those who sided withn the attacking armies and were consequently booted out bear the consequences of their actions.

      Your solution means the death of Israel. the alternative means 23 Arab states remain, inclouding those from where most of the palestinians are actually from anyhow.

      If you can't see room for one tiny jewish state on land that twice before bore a Jewish state, and which invading Arabs and later Turks denied jews, then your position of ostensible fairness is actually one of gross bias.

      Any other nation that you believe should be wiped out demographically?

    • Ted

      Muchiboy,
      Part I Why must we continue to educate you on things that are part of historical fact. Anywhere between 400,000 – 600,000 Arab muslims left of there own free will after being encouraged to leave by their neighboring muslim countries. This so that they could then wage war on the newly established state of Israel. They did this with murderous promises of driving the Jewish people into the sea, thus in effect executing genocide upon them. They then lost the war. The Arab muslims have no right of return, nor do their progeny.

      • Ted

        part II
        During the same time in history nearly 500,000 – 750,000 Jewish people were murdered and persecuted and expelled, without any of their belongings or anything of value to go along with them from most of the surrounding Islamic countries. Estimates of the land and other confiscated riches these arab nations stole from these prior citizens are in the 100's billions.
        Israel took in all refugees from these Islamic countries, yet at the same time all the Arab refugees were kept in a state of limbo to serve as pawns in the hate fest of Islamic hegomeny, which continues to this day.
        If you will not demand compensation and the right to return for all the Jewish refugees you have entered into the most glaring of all hypocrisies.

  • Micah

    Absolutely ridiculous. The reason why Palestinians, Obama and the rest of the world criticizes Israel's plans to build "Houses for Jews in Jerusalem" is because Israel doesn't own the land. There are parts of Jerusalem that Israel owns legitimately (West Jerusalem). Then, there are parts that were confiscated in the 1967 war (East Jerusalem, including the Old City). The Geneva Convention prohibits annexing land by means of war. It is this land, Palestinian land, that Israel is building these houses on. This is illegal under international law.
    Israel is practicing systematic ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in East Jerusalem. They make it nearly impossible to get a building permit and they turn a blind eye to harassment from radical settlers. And so, when a Palestinian family gets too big, they build an addition on their house anyways and the whole house gets bulldozed for having built the addition illegally. The family has to move into the West Bank because they have nowhere else to go. The next week, construction starts on the same piece of land for a house for Israelis who never have any problem getting a permit. This happens hundreds of times each year.
    Don't listen to people who pretend like the settlement movement is just about building homes for Jews. It is an illegal land grab part of a systematic plan to make Jerusalem more Jewish (this is a textbook case of ethnic cleansing… you can't get more blatant than this).
    Frontpagemag, you lose journalistic integrity when you post vapid hogwash like this. Please, don't let your agenda pollute the truth.

    • MixMChess

      "The Geneva Convention prohibits annexing land by means of war. It is this land, Palestinian land, that Israel is building these houses on. This is illegal under international law."

      Wrong, you are ignorant of international law. First of all, Israel acquired the W. Bank (and other territories) in a DEFENSIVE war in 1967. Stephen Schwebel, former President of the International Court of Justice notes that "a country acting in self-defense may seize and occupy territory when necessary to protect itself." Additionally, international law Professor Julius Stone has noted that Israel has the capacity to occupy and legally annex territories captured in a defensive war. Thus, Israel could legally annex all of E. Jerusalem and the W. Bank under International Law.

      Also, you misunderstand the Fourth Geneva Convention which "prohibits the forcible transfer of people of one state to the territory of another state that it has occupied as a result of a war." The intention is to ensure that local populations who came under "occupation" would not be forced to move. This is in no way relevant to the settlement issue. Jews are not forcing out Palestinians. Additionally, Jews are not being forced to go to the West Bank and Gaza Strip. They are voluntarily moving back to places where they, or their ancestors, once lived before being expelled by others. Professor Eugene Rostow, former Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs has noted that "the Jewish right of settlement in the [West Bank] is equivalent in every way to the right of the local population to live there."

    • MixMChess

      "Israel is practicing systematic ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in East Jerusalem."

      Wrong, you are forgetting that Jews have been living in Jerusalem continuously for nearly two millennia. Jerusalem has always maintained a Jewish majority. Up until the Partition (1947) there was a thriving Jewish community in East Jerusalem,which included the Jewish Quarter of the Old City and many sites of importance to the Jewish religion, including the City of David, the Temple Mount and the Western Wall. Additionally, major Jewish institutions like Hebrew University and the original Hadassah Hospital are all located in eastern Jerusalem.

      The only time that the eastern part of Jerusalem was exclusively Arab was between 1949 and 1967, and that was because Jordan illegally occupied the area and forcibly expelled all the Jews. Oddly enough, When Israel gained control of the eastern portion in 1967, Jerusalem became an open city. Eastern Jerusalem Arabs mingled freely with those in West Jerusalem, and Palestinians from the surrounding areas freely poured into the city. Israel does not expel Palestinians from East Jerusalem or engage in any ethnic cleansing of Arabs in the W. Bank. In fact the opposite is true, the Palestinian population in East Jerusalem and the W. Bank as a whole has increased exponentially. The Arab population in E. Jerusalem increased from roughly 60,000 in 1967 to over 200,000 in 2008.

      • highpressure

        We should also mention at the rumor that the city of Jerusalem might become a official divided city ….Israel received thousands for request of citizenship from arabs, both Christian and Muslim.

        If this socalled genocide is actually taking place … why would Israel receive so many applications from people who are being “persecuted”? Obviously, the “socalled persecution” by the Israeli’s is far better then “kind and loving” PLO.

        Just noting.

    • MixMChess

      "They make it nearly impossible to get a building permit and they turn a blind eye to harassment from radical settlers."

      Wrong again, the facts do not support your claims. As a matter of policy, Israel does not requisition private land for the establishment of Jewish communities in the W. Bank. Housing construction is allowed only on public land after an exhaustive investigation has confirmed that no private rights exist regarding the land in question.

      Additionally, a study by former Jerusalem city planner Israel Kimhi shows that from 1974-1995 alone Jerusalem's Arab community received building permits for more square meters of residential construction than did the demographically similar (in terms of population and family size) Jewish ultra-Orthodox community. municipal tax records show that since 1967 the number of Arab-owned residences in the city has grown at a faster rate than the number of Jewish-owned residences. Building permits have been issued to Arabs at a rate similar to that for a comparable Jewish sector.

    • MixMChess

      "Don't listen to people who pretend like the settlement movement is just about building homes for Jews. It is an illegal land grab part of a systematic plan to make Jerusalem more Jewish (this is a textbook case of ethnic cleansing… you can't get more blatant than this)."

      Wrong yet again. If Israel is engaged in a land grab they are doing a terrible job at it. According to anti-settlement organizations Peace Now and B'Tselem, the settlements make up less than 2% of the West Bank.

      As for the building in E. Jerusalem, these are not "new settlements" they are simply new homes planned for existing Jewish neighborhoods of Jerusalem. All neighborhoods are completely within Jerusalem’s municipal boundaries, are currently uninhabited, and not adjacent to any Arab populations or neighborhoods. Additionally, their are plans for 3,015 housing units in 10 Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem which are to be built simultaneously with the Har Homa project.

    • CanadConserv

      those who stayed are still there. Those who left haven't returned. Those who sided withn the attacking armies and were consequently booted out bear the consequences of their actions.

    • CanadConserv

      In addition to the other able responses, you overlook that neither did the palestinians own these lands before 67. Instead they were under Egyptian and Jordanian control respectively, at which time no one described them as occupied. Know why?

    • highpressure

      “The Geneva Convention prohibits annexing land by means of war.”

      besides that being horse manure – as someone who knows…. where does the PLO and Hezbecowards on handling prisoners… what is the chance that a Israeli prisoner be returned to Israel? How about 1% – I beleive the Geneva Convention actually covers that.

      Or did you mean Geneva, NY. – not Geneva, Switzerland.

      I wonder how you feel about land actually stolen by arab nations equaling three times the current land mass of Israel in 1949 -50? What does your unknown convention in Geneva, NY say about that? Did they give party hats at your convention?

      I apologize to the board for my sarcasm to Mr Micah, but sometimes obsurdity draws it out of me. I’m sorry

  • Beth

    It is Islam (and no one else) that demands to have the name Palestine established in place of the name Israel. Shame on Islam.

    Upon what Holy Spiritual Authority does Islam make such a demand? If any Muslim says "Allah" – they are liars……according to their own Koran.

    The Koran mentions the name Israel many times (even devoted a whole chapter to the children of Israel) – but, not once, does the Koran ever mention the name Palestine.

    If they fear their lord so much – and his word – why would they make such a demand?

    (because they've all been led astray)

  • Beth

    As for the so-called (and self-professing) 'Christian' kings of this world…..(and you can EVEN be an athiest (which I am not) to understand their hypocrisy when looking at the following)…

    The saints 'sing' the song of Moses – Rev 15:3

    song of Moses…

    Exd 15:14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

    Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

    2nd witness) Joe 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with Me, … Palestine?

    3rd witness) Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

    • Beth

      At what point have you EVER heard any of the so-called 'Christian' houses' (denominations) leaders 'singing' that song?

      As for me: Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour

      Had they done so all along – I don't believe this world would be in such a mess.

      I also believe – it's never too late to start.

  • Beth

    Thank you P. David Hornik – for shedding some much-needed sunlight (a taboo thing to do for the media giants).

  • Eddie

    There is a "Peace Now" group in Israel.

    Ever wonder why there is no "Salaam Now" group in any Arab country?
    Ever wonder why there are no eurotrash fake "peace activists" who denounce hezbullah, hamass, al qada?

  • muchiboy

    The tragedy of the Carmel fire does illustrate the value of good regional and international ties,especially in times of need.And given global warming and the vagaries of the world economy and politics,our needs may be greater and more unpredictable and urgent then ever before.
    I do not begrudge Israel the international aid it is receiving from Muslim and Christian countries alike, neighborly,regionally and more remotely.After all,we are all God's children.I only hope the Diaspora generally and Israeli's specifically appreciate the value of these relationships when these same communities criticize Israel over her policies affecting the Palestinian people.I have no doubt that Israel itself would respond in kind to similar disasters of its Muslim neighbors.
    Again,I pass on my sympathies and my families sympathies to the families and friends of the Correctional Officers and other victims of this disastrous fire and hope it will be delt with sooner then later.Ron Grant aka muchiboy

    • Raymond in DC

      "I have no doubt that Israel itself would respond in kind to similar disasters of its Muslim neighbors." Israel *has* responded in kind – to Turkey and Bosnia, for example, and even offered aid to Iran after a quake a few years ago, but that offer was refused. Israeli rescue teams were in Thailand after the tsunami, in Mexico after a quake, in Kenya after the attack on the US embassy, and recently in Haiti.

      None of us makes it alone after a major disaster. Even the mighty US accepted help after the Gulf oil platform blow-out this summer.

      • MixMChess

        Israeli doctors saved over 1,100 lives in Haiti.

  • BUTSeriously

    Osama – oops I mean Obama, is enjoined to the genocidal demands of the Islamists. A US Pres who can restore the Balfour – will restore America's credibility. The corruption of the Balfour was the greatest post-W.W.II crime perpetrated, and its proof is the follow-up genocidal crimes of calling a 3-state as a 2-state, and re-dumping the name Palestineans from Jews to those hellbent for a holocaust. What's next – Muslim Zionists?

  • muchiboy

    “CanadConserv” I assume you are a Canadian Conservative,in which case I have to wonder where Zionism ends and Harpers Conservatism begins.Anyway…….

    “If you can’t see room for one tiny jewish state on land that twice before bore a Jewish state, and which invading Arabs and later Turks denied jews, then your position of ostensible fairness is actually one of gross bias.”

    Ask me that same question when the Jews see room for the Palestinians in their own homeland,and inherit their parents or grandparents birthright.I accept that Jews can live in Israel,can you accept that Palestinians can live in Palestine,where Israel is equal to Palestine? I didn’t think so.

    “Any other nation that you believe should be wiped out demographically?”

    I’ve looked at the world map and can find only one modern,post colonial state that owes its existence to occupation (by Jews)and ethnic cleansing(by the Jewish state) where the original refugees(the Palestinians) are denied their birth right and homeland while Jews from around the world are given citizenship,Israel. muchiboy

  • muchiboy

    “You can’t talk reason to Neocons. It’s like trying to explain to the KKK that just because somebody is black, doesn’t mean they are subhuman”

    I’m trying to figure how I can Tazer them over the internet.I guess they’re trying to figure it out too.Ouch! muchiboy

  • Pesach B Tov

    After the 1948 when Jordan attacked Israel, Jordan captured the the west bank, including the Old City of Jerusalem. Jordan then annexed the west bank. So, why were there no cries about Jordan taking property during war?

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    Many people who begin a network marketing business forget the importance of the word 'network'. The path to success in this business model is to build a sales organisation and you receive commissions for referring people to the business opportunity. There are different terms for this role but the one that is widely understood is Sponsor. You are sponsoring people into the business opportunity.

    Most network marketers quit, except for the leaders, who start looking for additional training and education. Hungry for success, members of the latter group end up easy prey for the current network marketing training scams.

    Unfortunately, most MLM companies' network marketing training programs consist of barely motivational meetings on conference calls. Most mlm companies fail to teach their distributors the basics of marketing and communications skills. This is considered one of the major reasons for the high rate of failure in multi-level marketing programs.

    There are many things to take into consideration when trying to find out what is the best network marketing company. While some people may consider their company the best because they have a great pay plan, others might consider theirs the best because their company made the most money last year. Some people might say they have the best MLM company because they have the tastiest products, while others will say that their company is the best, simple because they were told to say that and they are really looking for a mlm business opportunities

    lastly The best network marketing company for you is one that has several characteristics. Having said that not all companies in the network marketing industry can be the best. That doesn't mean the rest are bad. It just means that to be the best for you a network marketing company must have the 4 elements Which I reveal to you.