A Muslim Against the Ground Zero Mosque

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It is indisputable that as Muslim immigrants we, as a whole, have failed to put ourselves in the shoes of the host people. For the last few decades almost all that Americans have seen from those of us who take our religion literally is violence, conspiracy, intimidation, gender-discrimination and terrorism. Meanwhile, those of us who consider ourselves moderates have mostly stood silently by, watching open or stealth intolerance in the name of Islam from the sidelines.

The following is an example of graceful behavior when it comes to religious tolerance: On March 3, 2002, the Hindustan Times in India conducted a poll on building a temple on the ruins of the Babri mosque destroyed by radical Hindus. The destruction involved mass-murder, mass-rape and the burning of properties of thousands, mainly Muslims, in communal riots. The result of the poll showed an astounding 69.13% of Hindus supporting the rebuilding of the original mosque and in opposition to building a Hindu temple. That was enlightenment on their part.

Ground Zero is a place of the mass-murder of innocents. Opposition to building a mosque there is not “anti-Islamic conspiracy” but the opinion of nearly 70% Americans and 61% of local citizens (CNN, Aug 17, 2010). Indeed we have a legal right to build it, but lest we forget: applying a right attached to religious faith mandates serious wisdom. The plethora of “Legal Right” gave unethical legitimacy not only to the mosque-builders but also to the “Koran Burning” project on 9/11 of Rev. Terry Jones’ of Florida Dove Outreach Center. “It is our right” he claimed on CNN.  Yes, Jones finally abandoned his idea of carrying out the plan yesterday (Thursday, September 9), but one still wonders: Is Jones not aware that progressive Muslims also share his agony about Sharia law? Is he not aware that, after functioning for fourteen years with the support of provincial law, the Canadian Sharia Court was legally uprooted not by violence but mainly by the forceful movement of progressive Muslims (i.e. the Muslim Canadian Congress, The Canadian Council of Muslim Women and the International movement against Canadian Sharia Court)?

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  • proxywar

    What does a director of Sharia Law mean?

  • Gunner57

    Spare me your indignation. I'll believe you when you stop following the commands of the wicked Muhammad.

  • Chezwick_Mac

    With all due respect Hasan, you sound like a reasonable fellow, but almost all the social pathologies that afflict your ummah are derived from your religion. It's an incongruity to repudiate Sharia and yet still cling to your Muslim identity. Isn't it time for such a seemingly enlightened man to end his "submission" to the contrivance of a 7th century, illiterate Bedouin.

    • Jeff

      It is called "Cordoba House," after the town in which Mohammedan Islam announced its victory over Roman Catholicism. This mosque is more than just "The Mosque at Ground Zero," it is "The Victory Mosque."

  • derrickras

    With all due respect–your religion is based on the rantings of a degenerate pedophile. Nothing will change that, ever. Nothing that came from the wicked mouth of Muhammad was sacred or holy, only evil. He was either the spawn of satan, or simply insane and wicked. No calls for "tolerance" will change those facts. Muhammad was an evil loser, and his followers deserve to be mocked and ridiculed as the losers they most certainly are. Nothing good can come from venerating an evil man.

  • http://www.apollospaeks ApolloSpeaks

    RAUF'S CNN INTERVIEW, OR C-ordoba N-on N-egotiable

    Imam Rauf warns that the suffering, anguish and turmoil that he caused because of his "mistaken" Cordoba House mosque will only worsen if the mistake is made not to build it at Ground Zero. For, says he, that would trigger an explosion of anti-American rage that would add to the body count of 9/11 and bring more tears to American families.

    Now that Rauf is repackaging his mosque as a national security issue with US lives at stake will Obama reward him with Bob Gates' job as Secretary of Defense? That would ensure that the radicals don't win and that American ideals will triumph in the end. Salaam.

    Click my name for my top five blog at Townhall.

  • ze-ev ben jehudah

    Hasan Mahmud, after reading your article you restored a litle hope that
    there may come a time when Muslims will tolerate all human beings with
    all their different faiths and even atheists beside their own religion.

    • Jeff

      Don't kid yourself. Islam is false and unredeemable as a religion. No matter what an Islamic apologist says, the vicious truth of the Quran remains just that. If an apologist's Islam sounds good, then he is either lying or descibing a new religion.

  • YeshuaisAdonai

    While I applaud the authors sentiments I feel his misrepresentation of Muhammad or ignorance of the events he describes undermines his argument. For example:

    "Our leaders must learn also from the Hudaybia treaty in 628; our Prophet and his thousand followers had every right and strength to perform the Hajj but for the cause of peace, the Prophet sacrificed it along with the two most important tenets of Islam on that written document. That saved two warring people from bloody battle and Muslims gained much the following year."

    This version of the account completely ignores that Muhammad and his followers broke that treaty and proceeded to come back and conquer Mecca. Later a woman of the Quraysh, Umm Kulthum, hoined the Muslims in Medina; her two brothers came to Muhammad, asking that they be returned "in accordance with the agreement between him and the Quraysh at Hudaybiya" Muhammad refused and even gave a revelation to validate his violation of the treaty (Qur'an 60:10) Soon Muhammad was accepting men from the Quraysh tribe definitively breaking the treaty.

    • YeshuaisAdonai

      Later Muhammad made good on his promise to grant his followers "much booty" (Qur'an 48:19) by raiding Jews at Khaybar. This was the incident in which a fire was lit on the Jewish leaders chest until he gave out the location of his treasure. Later still Muhammad led his followers to Mecca for its' seige under the excuse that the Quraysh had broken the treaty, despite the fact Muhammad had broken it first, leading to the wholesale slaughter and expulsion of non-muslims in Mecca.

      The only thing we can learn from the Hadaybiyya treaty is that muslim countries do not honor treaties unless they benefit them.

      • Paardestaart

        Well actually, muslims do not make treaties with unbelievers, whom they do not see as their equals: they consider us their subordinates, even if we are not aware of the fact
        So they do not sign treaties with us – they grant us favours – as long as it suits and pleases a khalifa, but those can be withdrawn at whim.

        Muslims therefore feel free to reinterpret the legal concepts and terms in the 'treaties' they seem to sign with the unbelievers. 'Peace' f.i. means only submission to Allah – not the state of brotherly love between neighbours who agree to differ, and who leave each other alone to each pursue his happiness as he sees fit.

        Muslims are god's people, ' we' the infidels are not their equals, and so a muslim does not acknowledge any of the rights we hold self-evident.
        The only reason muslims do not kills us all or take over our lands and possessions is because they know that they are not strong enough (yet.)
        And because they always fight among themselves, of course. This world would instantly sink in war and mayhem once our own useful idiots have helped the muslims topple the USA and destroy our world.

  • DiamondMair

    "Our Muslim identity, dignity, safety and rights are not toys for our religious leaders to play with. " From an outsider's perspective, your leaders have been doing that all along – one would HOPE that individuals such as yourself, who SEE how they're being manipulated, would have the courage of their convictions to call the 'leadership' on their games.

    Semper Fi'

  • http://www.crusaderknight.blogspot.com James Pawlak

    Dear Dr. Mahmuc:

    This note, with the definition below, is being sent to you in response to your presumed claim to be a “Moderate Muslim” as per your FrontPageMagazine posting of 9 September 2010. If you are indeed such a person, then you will have no problems falling within the definition of “Moderate Muslim” given below.


    1.A person who makes a very public proclamation that s/he is a Muslim along with giving out his/her name, address, occupation and place of employment.
    2.A a person who then makes a very public rejection and condemnation of all of the teachings within the Koran, Hadith, Sharia and other Islamic teachings which allow or encourage, and sometimes command, the use of murder (eg Killing anyone who “insults” Mohammed or the Koran), rape and enslavement, genocide (eg Killing all Jews), perpetual war with “unbelievers” until they submit to Islam, lying to and stealing from such “unbelievers” and the very inferior legal and social status given by Islam to all “unbelievers” and all women.
    3.A person who then demands that all such teachings be stricken and removed from the Islamic texts noted above.
    4.A person who then very publicly inks-out of a copy of the Koran all those verses which support the above noted, inhumane and anti-civilization acts.

    Of course, you would be much more believable, as to your claim of being a “Moderate Muslim” if you would very publicly state the historical truths that Mohammed of Mecca and Medina was a murderer, bandit, liar and treaty-breaker and the sexual abuser of a nine-year-young girl-child.

    Now, are you a “Moderate Muslim” or a standard-and-dangerous follower of the ideology called Islam with all of its differences in teachings from the Faiths of the Jews, Christians, Baha'i and Sikhs?

    • LisaH

      All you have to do is google this man's name to find out his position on Islam and Sharia.

    • traeh

      Hasan Mahmud — the one who is the former president of the Muslim Canadian Congress — says Sharia is inconsistent with modern times, on this website:

      That's the main problem, sharia, and he's publicly against it, so he's okay.

      Though I don't understand how an educated, ethical person can remain a Muslim, given everything we can learn about Muhammad from the core Islamic texts.

  • Craig

    I just have to point something out. Christianity was started by a man who preached non-violence and respect for unbelievers. Islam was started by a man who not only preached violence, but led his followers to the wholesale slaughter of unbelievers. Now, which one sounds more respectable?

    • guest

      Of course, the founder of Christianity was one of the last Christians to actually practice non-violence and respect for unbelievers. Over the following 2000 years, his followers waged bloody wars around the world, forced conversion and plundered resources across Asia, Africa, Latin American and the Middle East. Most recently, of course, Bush said God told him to invade Iraq. Over a million dead since, all by the followers of Christ. History's a bitch, try studying it.

    • guest

      If only his followers over the subsequent 2000 years actually lived by his preachings. Alas, the opposite is what we call modern history.

      • tanstaafl

        Since the followers of Mohammed have killed over 270 million people over the last 1400 years and are still killing people today, what is that called?

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    Except a few countries, nobody receives immigrants at all. Now, say a Christian, or a Jew (or even an atheist) wants to immigrate somewhere. Would it make any sense for him or her to move into a predominantly Islamic country – even if it were possible!? (Saudis would shred his Bible right in the airport).

    Then why do Moslems move into predominantly Christian countries with intention to remain Moslems? True, before restoration of Israel also Jews ought to move into host countries yet remained Jews. However, unlike Moslems, they had no other choice then. More importantly, they willingly integrated rather than demanded autonomy, and definitely did not plan to merge the host into any "Jewish califat"

    So why are even "moderate" Moslems here?

    • sham

      well said!!!!

  • No Dhimmi

    Thank you for the reasonable voice. I have a problem with the India story, however, which is that long before 1992 Muslim invaders slaughtered some 80 million Indians, raping and pillaging along the way, in an incredibly brutal centuries-long crime wave that really shouldn't be forgotten.

    Moreover, while you make good points about how Islam seems to have gotten a "bad rap," the fact will remain that it was a VIOLENT, CONQUERING religion from the beginning.

    Also, when you speak fondly of "the Prophet" as if he truly was some godly person, I can't help but wonder how you can justify in your own mind the facts that, according to the hadiths, Mohammed is depicted as having murdered hundreds, raped sex slaves, and "thighed" a six-year-old girl before beginning to rape her when she was nine.

    You see, no matter how much you fight against the "extremists" – which is good – I will never hold Islam up in a positive light because it's just too grotesque on its face.

    But thanks for trying.

    • traeh

      I agree Muhammad did a lot of horrible things, and I don't understand how an ethical, educated person can remain a Muslim when one can so easily learn today about those things from the core Islamic texts.

      No Dhimmi, What is your source that Mohammad "thighed" Aisha when she was six?

  • henryCrux

    henry Crux:
    Going on ten years now and the Huge 9-11 cavernous awe inspiring hole in the earth where the twin towers once stood, is still there – a perpetual memorial to the superiority of the Muslim Bible over American Democracy. Now, a beautiful HUGE mosque will be built on the edge of that Muslim-made Grand Canyon so that Muslim visitors from all over the world can climb up to the observation decks which are specially made to give everyone a view of what can happen to a country that dares to defy the clear warnings in the Holy KORAN that no infidel should trouble those who follow the only true faith in God that ever existed or ever will exist. On viewing the magnificent victory hole which will scar American forever, the Muslim viewer will be filled with glorious wonder and pride whilst the Americans will be humbled at the sight and realize the holy and mighty superiority of the religion of the Koran and the perfect faith of the only Chosen People of God – a mighty faith that laughs at death, and looks forward with absolute confidence to an eternity in heaven with co-habiting beautiful naked angels whilst enjoying watching the horrible agonies of all the non-Muslims suffering in Hell forever! But, right now, there is the great hole in the ground – you have to ask yourself, "why is it still there? How hard can it be to cover up this insult? Why has it not been done? How many big oil money bribes did it take to keep it here for the viewing delight of all the good Muslims in the world? A lot you can be sure – paying off American to sh*t can their national pride does not come cheap!

  • StuartnParsons

    Oh when are Muslims going to come to their senses and give up this primitive and barbaric cult ? Oh when are they going to join and live in harmony with the rest of mankind ?

  • Ghostwriter

    Finally! A Muslim who sees Americans as people and not insects to be stomped on. Much of the Muslim world may not want to hear this but we Americans are human beings too and have as much right to live as they do. The negative image of Islam will continue to exist in this country until more Muslims raise their voices against people like Bin Laden and their attempts to force their religion on this country.

  • lacshelton

    For nine years now, some experts have been telling us, that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam. Today these experts tell us, that Koran burning in Florida will fuel terrorism. Could someone please explain to me how could Koran burning affect terrorism, if there is no connection between terrorism and Islam?

  • Thomas

    Nice try, Then please explain when the (false)Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good."
    Commonly called "The principle of Al-Takeyya "

  • CitizenMan

    Dear Sir,
    All serious, reasonable muslims who have read the unexpurgated quran seriously and personally studied their "religion" with an unbiased mind have abandoned it as not being a religion at all. To quote one, "The trouble with islam, is islam" itself. Any reasonable person who has read it knows that it appeals to the base, carnal instincts of man who is the enemy of the real God in heaven.

    All a person has to do is to pray with REAL INTENT to God, Elohim, to know the truth, in the name of Jesus Christ and the truth will make him free. It is that simple. The adverary, the devil, CANNOT deceive you – and, just as you know anything that is true, you will know the truth.

    After all, when we arrive at that time, after death, when our probation and testing is over, we will know the truth. At that time we shall have our complete memory restored, ie., our life with God, The Father, and all of our earth life. Then we all shall acknowledge what is true. The comparison will make us judges of ourselves indeed.

  • aspacia

    Hasan Mahmud is a good guy. Blogger might want to read this anti-Sharia article written by Mahmud: http://www.ahl-alquran.com/English/document.php?p

  • http://frontpagemag.com Truth Detector

    Hasan Mahmud, you made so much sense, you didn't sound like a Muslim to me. But I'll take your word for it.

  • muslimpoxbyebye

    Tell me something you muslim moron…while you're giving all this sage advice about moha-mad's cult which you were unfortunately born in … WHERE IS YOUR MOTHER AND WHERE ARE YOUR SISTERS RIGHT NOW ? are they at home sitting and wasting their brains and lives waiting for a MALE relative to take them out ? WHY ? because the cult of islam which they were unfortunately born in takes away their rights to do anything except breed murderers in the name of that invented-in-hate allah…. you idiot what about all the women born in islam? screwed for life. do you even know the purpose of the burkha ? it means women are nothing. nothing .nothing in islam. you fool..instead of yakking away at how great islam is you should be plotting yours and your family's escape from evil islam…you mother gave you birth …so think a little and free her and your sisters from that DEAD mad man's cult you are living in by default. THIS planet is lovely and sunshine and freedom is their birthright. for once in your life do something right. GET UP AND GET OUT OF ISLAM NOW!!! be cool.

  • traeh


    In Sahih Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection:

    Volume 1, Book 11, Number 626:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama [second call to prayer] and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses."

  • muslimpoxbyebye

    IT IS NOT DRUGS THAT TURN PEOPLE REALLY INSANE..it is islam that turns people insane…. Islam is so bad for a human’s mental heath that to ignore this malaise is to invite mental retardation into your lineage after your life….

    Maybe you should take your "tolerance" to Mecca and experience the reception… But stop endangering the future of my family with your pandering.
    This is a 'religion' of the madhouse. Strait-jacket stuff.

  • traeh


    Here, from Sunan Abu-Dawud, a hadith collection considered canonical by mainstream Muslim scholars, is a hadith that shows Muhammad supporting the murder of a woman by her husband, merely because she used to speak to her husband insultingly about Muhammad:

    Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, Number 4348:

    Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

    A blind man had a slave-mother [a slave who bore children for him] who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He [the blindman] forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he [the blindman] took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.

    He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.

    He sat before the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.

    Thereupon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

    There are other examples in the core Islamic texts of Muhammad having those who insult Islam killed.

  • traeh
  • traeh

    In Sahih Bukhari, the most canonical of hadith collections, Muhammad said, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387

    "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah."

    In other words, Muhammad says that if you are non-Muslim, your right to life will not be sacred to Muslims, nor your right to property.

  • traeh


    Bernard Lewis, the highly respected historian of the Middle East, writes on page 72 of his book The Political Language of Islam, that

    …the overwhelming majority of classical theologians, jurists, and traditionalists [Muslim specialists in the Qur'an, hadith, and Sunna] … understood the obligation of jihad in a military sense.

    Lewis also writes, on page 31 of his book The Crisis of Islam, that

    For most of the fourteen centuries of recorded Muslim history, jihad was most commonly interpreted to mean armed struggle for the defense or advancement of Muslim power.

  • 911Infidel

    Not sure what a "moderate" Muslim is. PM Erdogen famously said that "there is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam". The Son Of Hamas has a similar take hen he said "If you believe in the god of the Koran, you are a jihadi".

    Your prophet was a murderer, a liar, a thief a rapist, and a pedophile. There is no moderate Islam. Only apostates and jihadis.

    The treaty of Hudaibiyya is the perfect example of hudna from Islam history. Here's the real deal on that treaty minus the BS.:

    "Woe is thee! It is not time for hesitancy, in this. Believe and Testify forthwith with the creed of Islam, or else, thy neck shall be in danger." Abu Sufian converted forthwith and returned to his people asking them to submit to Islam or else shut themselves in their houses to avoid definite death at the hands of Muhammad's army. Thereupon, Muhammad's army entered the city, captured the Ka'ba and destroyed the vestiges of idolatry and established the rule of Islam over the city ." – MA Khan

  • leigh

    Hasan needs to read more- aside from a competing mosque Mohammad had destroyed a pagan temple Dhul-Khalasa belonging to the tribe of Khath'am called Al-Ka'ba Al-Yama-niya.

  • snottyhanky

    If the Roman Catholic church can abjure the errors in Pius the IX's Syllabus of Errors, and remove the phrase 'the perfidious Jews" from their Good Friday service, it is equally possible for Islam to chance. This is a matter of will. This things can be willed where will and power are one, and these reside in and with Americans of the Muslim faith. As did the Irish Catholics before you, who went from being traitors to this country in their religion's name, during the 1848 Mexican American war, to heroes on both sides of the American Civil War, so too may those who calls themselves Americans find a similar path to transforming Islam.

    • Stuart Parsons

      For Islam to change and become an acceptable faith it would have to invent a new Allah, renounce much of the Qur'an, nearly all of Shari'ah and cast its prophet into the fiery furnaces where he well deserves to be. When it had done this, there would still not be any verifiable evidence whatsoever for what little is left.

  • James

    Gary Glitter, all is forgiven.

    Write a book, get a few not so bright followers, and you have your own religion…simple!

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