Dark Predictions of a KGB Defector


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One of the more interesting predictions which we still see playing itself out on the world stage today, is Golitsyn’s assertion that North American influence in Latin America would be undermined.  This is blatantly obvious in Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela, the recent readoption of a socialist constitution by Bolivia, and also the entrance into the BRIC alliance by Brazil (to name a few).

FP: It does appear that communism did not really “die” in 1991 as the West portrayed and understood its death. Indeed, the Soviets did have some kind of plan and it has something to do with Putin and his gang being in power today. Expand on this for us.

McNew: In 1959 Nikita Khrushchev boasted to a US cabinet member “You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands.”

As Jeff Nyquist points out, “It is noteworthy that Khrushchev did not say, “You will live under communism.” He also did not say, “Your children will live under communism.” He told his American opposites that their grandchildren would live under communism. Khrushchev was admitting that Moscow’s plan was a long-range plan, involving decades of work.”

In a July 1984 memoranda to the CIA, a year before Mikhail Gorbachev took power, Golitsyn had specifically fingered Gorbachev as being the intended replacement for Konstantin Chernenko.  Golitsyn later provided insights on the eventual replacement of Boris Yeltsin as well, describing Russian hostilities in Chechnya “not as a likely cause of a military coup, but as a possible planned prelude to a change of government.”  When Yeltsin stepped down unexpectedly in 1999, this gave rise to Vladimir Putin.  Due to Putin’s very forceful handling of the war in Chechnya, he easily won election to the Presidency a few months later, riding a wave of renewed Russian nationalism.

The current “President” of Russia is of course Dmitry Medvedev, but even the very naïve “mainstream” media here in the US understands that it is Putin who is actually pulling Russia’s strings.  There is also a lot of cynicism about the fairness of elections in Russia, and there is much speculation that Putin will run again (and win) in 2012, since the Russian Constitution does not prevent him from doing so.  So what we have is a decades-long pattern of “continuity of leadership” in the former Soviet Union, and now in Russia.  It would be simply impossible to execute a long range strategy like Golitsyn describes, in a real democracy where the national direction can change every 4 or 8 years.  Vladimir Putin has himself admitted to being made “in the Soviet mold.”  Putin is a communist and is the logical extension of the Soviets long range plans.

So, it appears that Khrushchev was right in his assertion that we in the US would be eat the communist elephant one socialist bite at a time.

FP: Jason McNew, thanks for joining Frontpage Interview.

To see the Symposium Secrets of Communism’s “Collapse,” click here.

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  • Sergey

    1. I am sorry, but to suggest using Golitsyn predictions that the break up of the Soviet Union in 1991 was a "strategic ruse" is more like a crack-pot theory. If it is a strategic ruse, it is hardly successful one because NATO now has a number of former Soviet Block states including (former East Germany, Poland, Czech Republic and 3 former constituent Soviet Republics: Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia putting NATO right on the Russian Border.)

    2. Communism as a belief system in Russia/fmr. USSR really died long time before 1991. Under Brezhnev era (1964-1982) Communist party officials of all levels (including Central Committee and Politbeauro members) were already engaged in massive theft of the state property and enriching their pockets. Hardly true communist behavior.
    Stalin, as horrible monster and mass murderer as he was, lived quite modestly and did not enriched himself or his family. Neither his politbureau. Stalin likely felt that he was the state. Real communism in all its horrors was under Stalin in Russia/USSR and Mao in China. Now real Communism is only in North Korea. Even Cuba is now moving to a kind of state-controlled capitalism.

    • Bill K

      We have the equivalent of Hugo Chavez in the White House so I would say the movement is more complex than you believe.

    • Ricardo

      Hardly true communist behavior to be looting? You sir must be a communist. Any real student of history knows the entire movement is based on theft and murder. Meanwhile, the Russians are still funding anti-American communist journalists like that one recently found to be a spy, or still funding, aiding and abetting our communist enemies in the South. Look to South America and you'll see Russia's disgusting fingerprints all over.

      We won the cold war? Yeah, sure, keep drinking the kool-aid, it'll make you feel good.

      • Anatoliy Z

        gravely suborn that who believes. If you sale that even your country you despise!

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    An idea as though the collapse of the USSR was pre-programmed within the USSR is not substantiated. I do not buy it.

    As to the West "eating the communist elephant one socialist bite at a time", it is true in many respects. It does happen: partially due to the long standing program of the former KGB – very well explained by another defector Bezmenov:
    http://www.resonoelusono.com/BezmenovPrediction.htm

    Yet to credit this "achievement" entirely to KGB would be a mistake, because a suicidal trend of the West in the direction of self deprecation and socialism existed for about 200 years (briefly highlighted here):
    http://www.resonoelusono.com/NeverBeforeRichesConceded.h...

    Unfortunately this trend was neither noticed nor confronted. For a century the conservatives in America have been trapped into a false belief as though everything freely evolving within the frame of our great Constitution is acceptable, and therefore must be just left alone. The life itself would sort things right. Wrong! Our Founding Fathers had warned us that it may be right only as long as the people are right: God fearing, freedom loving, moral people.

    Cont.

    • Anatoliy Z

      Beside I form the impression that all are withdrawn by USSR as infect crawlled across in west world. The Cold war ended – who has won? that who more advantages has probably got! Presently I see that NATO can speak only slogan of the type – "who not with us that against us and him absolutely don't care where truth – a main for west – where advantage there and truth. Listen перебезчиков in hope to get the truthful opinion, so- foolishly what ask beside your enemy about your value. Something can truth, but big part, no.

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    Unfortunately this trend was neither noticed nor confronted. For a century the conservatives in America have been trapped into a false belief as though everything freely evolving within the frame of our great Constitution is acceptable, and therefore must be just left alone. The life itself would sort things right. Wrong! Our Founding Fathers had warned us that it may be right only as long as the people are right: God fearing, freedom loving, moral people.

    Since the beginning of the 20th century, corrosive ideologies affected the American people and the government both. Legal nihilism became as common as in Sovok. Twisted by the "progressive" agitators, the meaning of the words eroded into most frivolous interpretations. Just like in Russia on the verge of the 20th century, agitators took advantage of the relative freedom of that time with the goal to subvert the empire and establish socialist dictatorship.

    We are in a terrible peril. Only the extreme will, sacrifices, and God's providence may save this Republic.

    • Anatoliy Z

      Fend for yourself and its mortgaged (in debt) to country if you consider her(its) its native! Zapadniki so love to connect the God to its delirium. If only were afraid his(its) anger!

  • Bogdan the Aussie

    It doesn't matter Sergey. They can call themeselves as they wish. In the end we have to see them for what they are; PARASITES. A human parsite will put any mask on, whether it is communism, social-democracy, liberal-democracy, peoples' republic, "bolivarian" republic or whatever one can think of, in order to build a socio-political construction which will enable the PARASITE to live its parasitic life at the expense of the HUMAN OF SMART AND HONEST WORK, as it is the only type of a human activity that produces wealth.

    Parasites like Putin on one side and Obama on the other function mentaly much closer to the world of animals than true humans. Like animals, they are driven by the powerful urge to steal from others. That urge is so powerfull that it overdrives their own humanity (if they have ever had any).

  • Wordcrunch991

    Jamie is wrong on this one, and I am disappointed that he is flogging this dead horse. He, of all people should know better. Putin is the best deal Russians could have hoped for. Tough, uncomprosing, but smart, no-nonsense pragmatist who has greatly strenthened Russia by building bridges and defusing tensions. He and his Leningrad 'siloviki' (who cares what tthey were !) saved Russia from the oligo-anarchy which threatened mayhem. I have been greatly impressed by his handling of China, Poland, Ukraine and the cretin from Tbilisi. This guy knows what he wants for Russia and he will not overreach himself. If Volod'a was a Republican American president his approval rating from Democrats would be what he gets in his homeland from his opposition: envy and grudging respect.

    • Ricardo

      His handling of Poland, Ukraine and Tbilisi? So you're a supporter of the undermining and takeover of free nations? Are you even an American? This man Putin who you so respect is a criminal. People get thrown out from windows or shot to death on their doorstep in that paradise. Meanwhile big bad Macho Putin is working with our enemies across the globe to undermine American power. Whose side are you on? If you're not with us, you're against us. The communist tyrants of Russia must be stopped at all cost, or civilization as we know it will end by the hands of the people you so adore.

      • NewBush

        Have you ever been to Ukraine and Tbilisi? Or you've only head about them in FoxNews? Current Geargia's president is a mad maniac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOcBQ2Is2c4 And previous so called "democratic" Ukraine government made this state absolutely bankrupt.

      • Wordcrunch991

        Well, it looks like we have different sources of information. FYI, I came to the West in 1968 after my native land was invaded by the Soviets. I hold no brief for Russians. But I can appreciate good policy when I see one. BTW, are you familiar with the work of Julie Eisenhower (daughter of Ike) ? Perhaps you might want to get a different point of view on Russia from her.

      • Anatoliy Z

        interesting. Signifies Putin such bad? undermines the american earthy remains. That god itself came and said – "I grant to you right to control the planet"? you are a naive children. Putin gave you on mug already on threshold its (my including) of the building. As possible be such lear (the lear more exactly)? America never followed to promises. While her advantageously, she participates in some agreements. As soon as she wanted possible immediately to tear in unilateral order all that was with such labour is concluded. America even in ecological agreements does not participate (therefore that limit her(its) industrial power). Glavne придумать какойнибудь pretext, start "advertisment" through mass media. And onward public opinion FOR.

  • Lawrence Kohn

    Golitsyn wrote another book, The Perestroika Deception, which is a collection of his memoranda to the CIA subsequent to New Lies. The key is to follow the geopolitical activities of the new Russia, Sergey, and its reach is global from Iran to Venezuela (see my article in Midstream April 1999 The New Russia and Iranian "Moderates" and December 2000 Russia, Venezuela and the Palestinian Authority, and Primakov: A key player Feb/March 1998). Note the offensive nuclear build up carried out by both Yeltsin and Putin and its being ratified in the new START treaty and Moscow's efforts to get a European security treaty to neutralize Western Europe; a continuing goal so far unreached but unchanging nevertheless. Finally note Yeltsin's speech at his "resignation" from the Communist Party at the July 1990 Congress where he called for the creation of a multiparty system where one or another of its factions would become the vanguard of society. And recall the coup where no one cut off Yeltsin's communications, nor shot him, nor arrested him while Gorbachev was able to send a video out to the world while under house arrest. These dramatic staged events were a provocation intended to mask the strategic retreat designed to bring Russia into Western economic institutions while lowering Western defenses. The results have now come in and they are quite favorable to Moscow. One need not be Lenin in one's personal habits in order to carry out Lenin style activities of pragmatism and deception which the new KGB since the Shelepin plan of 1959-61 was enacted was tasked to do.

    • Lawrence Kohn

      No doubt the Soviet plan went awry in certain places; Shevardnadze's take over after an initial democratic movement was undone but Putin has now effectively put Georgia in its place; Poland's original new leaders were former communists who eventually fell to democrats but look at the recent airplane accident during the visit to Katyn decimating Poland's democratic leadership and look at Ukraine's move away from Russia after initial control by former communists and now Russia's economic clout is undoing that revolution. Meantime treaties set up between Russia and European countries designed to neutralize them include Article 6 of the Feb 1992 Russia France treaty: "France pledges to promote rapprochement between the European community and Russia…with a view to assisting its integration in the European economy." Article 9: "the Russian Federation and the French republic shall develop and deepen contacts along military lines." But this is with the new Russia one might say. Alas article 9 is an exact quote from Article 24 of the Franco Soviet treaty of 1990. btw follow Primakov's rise and how he smoothly moved from foreign intell chief under Gorbachev to the same under Yeltsin and then to Prime Minister. And listen to post Soviet FM Kosyrev Dec 1992 "we are talking about Russia's course and consequently the course to be pursued by other states not only of the former Soviet Union but the whole socialist camp because the Russian Federation is the locomotive which by the direction and speed of its movement determines the direction and speed of movement of other states" Read The Perestroika Deception and its editorial notes by Christopher Story.

  • george

    Unbelievable nonsense… Beware American citizens. Conspiracy of long feared communism is everywhere. Do not be fooled by the Berlin Wall and the new map of the world. A russian traitor revealed the truth a half century ago. Your government knows nothing neither do you. Follow me and Golitsin prophecies and look out for flesh eating communists in your neighborhoods.

  • Agroprom

    Oh really? Putin is not a Russia's ruler since 2008, do you know that? What evidance do you have when saying that Russia is helping Iran with Nukes?

  • Liberty Clinger

    We never had a de-Marxification of Western Civilization after the so-called Cold War. The Marxist idea of centralized (government) collectivization of property has in fact metastasized into Western Europe and the United States. Marxism will only be defeated when Federal Government taxation is reduced to 10% – when we no longer render unto Caesar property which belongs to God (charity) and property which belongs to the individual who labored for it. State Government taxation will also need a 10% limit. In this way the individual will be empowered to keep the fruit of his/her own labor in their natural pursuit of happiness – which is their God-given unalienable right.
    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2125/print

    • george

      And how would you do de-marxification? I suggest burning all books of K.Marks and his followers and arresting all those who read them – would be a good start.

      • Liberty Clinger

        No, I would encourage everyone to read the Communist Manifesto – required reading for students. The Manifesto should then be compared to the American Declaration of Independence and the writings of John Locke. We can de-Marxify ourselves by limiting Federal taxation to 10%; that way the Pigs of Animal Farm would no longer have the power to socially engineer us into their utopia – which turns out to be hell on earth for everyone else.

  • George K.

    Typical propoganda.
    As it was in the 60's in the Soviet Union then in the 21th century in the United States. Congratulations.

    • Liberty Clinger

      Typical Marxist propaganda, which of course labels truth as propaganda.

      • george

        Marxist propoganda is no better than Foxnews propoganda. Brainwashing of mass population should be a crime in any democracy. Most of TV news channels should be banned.

        • Liberty Clinger

          The requirement for totalitarian government to use the lies of mass-media propaganda was best stated by George Orwell:

          “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously (the lie and the truth), and accepting both of them (Insanity)… with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth… Those who have the best knowledge of what is happening are also those who are furthest from seeing the world as it is; in general the greater the understanding the greater the delusion; the more intelligent the less sane… You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident… I tell you Winston that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind and nowhere else; not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes and in any case soon perishes; only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be truth is truth…" George Orwell – 1984

          • george

            George Orwell is a great writer, a writer. Following this abstract his truth is in his own mind, or the collective mind of some group of people. Rejection existance of objective truth is more than doubtful thought. If a human mind can not comprehed it – it does not mean it isn't out there.

            If totalitarian goverment uses of lies in mass-media, then how using lies in mass media characterises a goverment not supposed to be a totalitarian? and how shall we call it ?

          • adam

            George,
            you sort of lost it when you alluded to your distaste for the 1st amendment.
            "Most TV news channels should be banned."
            which gov't advisory panel might be in charge of that, and why the innate tendency to use gov't force?

          • george

            I agree that was emotional. However, the issue remains… Have you even seen an objective journalism equaly available for public as those brainwashing mashines like CNN, Fox, etc…

  • Liberty Clinger

    The budget for the U.S. Army was several times higher than that of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan during World War II. Yes, the United States is a military threat to life and liberty-destroying totalitarian nations – now as in the past.

    • George K.

      When I constantly read here and there so primitive propaganda, I understand that the country is weakening, and it is waiting for the inheritance of the Soviet Union.

  • Wordcrunch991

    I think it is clear as day the intention of re-cycling fuel rods is to ensure that they cannot be used for mischief. They'd be useless for nuclear weapons building at any rate; you could probably create dirty bombs with them. But the concern is not there.

  • JeVo

    You know the difference between fuel and weapons? Probably in school you had a bad teacher in physics

    • Liberty Clinger

      Uranium fuel can be further enriched into Uranium weapons or later converted into Plutonium weapons. It is you who need a remedial education in physics, a subject in which I scored straight A's.

      • JeVo

        firstly, Indeed, there is nothing more than a simple. Secondly, similarly to (as you accuse Rosatom), I can blame the American sellers Boeing, the aircraft also can be turned into a weapon. Finally, do you have proof that Iran can do enrichment up to 80-90% (otherwise the story reminds weapons of mass destruction in Iraq)?
        PS a few facts: Iran has a right to the peaceful atom. Iran's enrichment program nobody supports. Rosatom sells fuel, Boeing sells airplanes, GM- cars… Putin is not a Russia's ruler since 2008

        • Liberty Clinger

          Iran is already enriching uranium; their interest in uranium is first and foremost in regards to nuclear weapons because they are a totalitarian nation ruled by totalitarian Sharia Law – Law of a religious elite, by a religious elite, for a religious elite.

          "Iran said Tuesday it had begun enriching uranium to 20 percent purity… up from 3.5 percent previously. But the international community has demanded a halt to all enrichment activity because the same process is used to produce weapons-grade material if it is enriched to a level of 90 percent. Experts say that from 20 percent enrichment, Iran could make a quick leap to weapons-grade uranium."
          http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/11/i

        • Liberty Clinger

          You seem unable to comprehend or refuse to admit the simple fact that guns, airplanes and uranium in the hands of freedom-loving people will not be used to destroy freedom; the same weapons in the hands of totalitarian government will be used to destroy freedom – and free people. The people in charge of the weapons are what matters. The last thing the world needs is another totalitarian nation in possession of nuclear weapons – especially a suicide/homicide terrorist-supporting nation like Iran.

          • JeVo

            Newspaper washingtontimes, is not evidence. If Iran can enrich to weapons grade, it happen is not today and not tomorrow, not this year … In the short term this is possible only in theory. If it were so easy, it happened yesterday. But I not talking about it. I challenge the thesis: "Russia under Vladimir Putin is helping Iran acquire nuclear weapons."

          • Liberty Clinger

            "Despite their posturing that their nuclear power is only for civilian use, they in fact continue to pursue a course that would lead to weaponization and that is not acceptable," Barak Obama
            http://articles.cnn.com/2010-02-09/world/iran.ura

            JeVo – I hoist you on your own petard. Crawl back in your hole.

  • Wordcrunch991

    First off, I hope it is clear to everyone that the missiles in question are defensive systems. The concern about Iran was that they might be used against Israeli planes taking out Iran nuclear facilities. Russia responded to US/Israeli requests to cancel the deal. Could the missiles they sold elsewhere be re-sold to Iran ? Presumably, yes. But I don't think the recipients would be stupid enough to do that.

  • Bob

    Iran as any other country has an absolute right to protect itself from aggressive countries. Its not very smart of Russia not to sell the deafens system S-300 to any country which can pay for it.

    • Liberty Clinger

      Iran is an aggressive suicide/homocide terror-sponsoring country. Iran must not be allowed to posses weapons of mass destruction because, unlike the Soviet Union, they cannot be detered from using them by the threat of mutual assured destruction due to their toxic religious beliefs which glorify murder and suicide for the advancement of Islam.

      • NewBush

        Iraq is an aggressive suicide/homocide terror-sponsoring country. Iraq must not be allowed to posses weapons of mass destruction because, unlike the Soviet Union, they cannot be detered from using them by the threat of mutual assured destruction due to their toxic religious beliefs which glorify murder and suicide for the advancement of Islam.
        President Bush

  • Artem

    Children at you in USA were resolved by drugs?
    Only under them it is possible such to write.
    sorry for language – the online translator.

  • benderr

    Glazov,surely shew psychoanalyst, you missed all the deadlines

  • Evgeniy (Moscow)

    It is very popular to recall George OrwelI – as the man who created the icon of anti-communism propaganda. Better description for this hysterical fever- "Lord of flies" by William Golding: Create common threat for the people and manipulate with their terrified minds.

    You really think that small poor Iraq and medieval Afganistan both on the other end of this world can demage huge and powerfull american democracy?

    • Philosopherking

      No but I actually did think they crashed an airplane into a NY building. Its just my theory. I've seen it on film.

    • Liberty Clinger

      Anti-Communism is not propaganda it is rational. The idea of Communism is best illustrated in Orwell's Animal Farm where the greedy Pigs collectivize labored-for property – thus enriching and empowering themselves – property is power – power to buy votes in return for property – perverted "democracy."

      “The proletariat (lazy animal class) will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie (working animal class), to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state (Marxist Pigs)… Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property… We have seen above that the first step in the revolution by the (non) working class is to raise the proletariat (lazy animals) to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy… In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things. In all these movements, they bring to the front, as the leading question in each, the property question, no matter what its degree of development at the time.” Karl Marx
      http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manife

      • Evgeniy (Moscow)

        You looks pretty "retro" working animal. You have Washington Post instead of your brain. It is boring. You'd better read Nobel-Prize Golding than copy-paste from Orwell. Dont touch Marx – he was rich jew from Germany and I am sure now he is the best friend of all Wall-street bankers, because he gave them right to use all that lazy "animals" as thair slaves and solgiers to protect their right to rob the whole world. If you not agree, ask people in those countries, where you forced them to take your "democratic freedom" in return for their resources.

        • Liberty Clinger

          Go read Huffington Post for some exciting lies. You bore me in comparison to both George Orwell and William Golding – we have with Evgeniy no writer of anything comparable to Animal Farm or Lord of the Flies – but I do agree with you that big bankers (not just on Wall Street) are like the Marxist Pigs.

          BTW you are not the only one who mocks human freedom.

          "There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality." Karl Marx
          http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manife

    • Liberty Clinger

      "By April 1944 Animal Farm was ready for publication. Gollancz refused to publish it, considering it an attack on the Soviet regime which was a crucial ally in the war. A similar fate was met from other publishers (including T. S. Eliot at Faber and Faber) until Jonathan Cape agreed to take it… Another bombshell was Cape's reversal of its plan to publish Animal Farm. The decision is believed to be due to the influence of Peter Smollett, who worked at the Ministry of Information and was later disclosed to be a Soviet agent."

      Yes, George Orwell was the best anti-Communist that ever lived. Better than any other non-Soviet writer he understood the self-serving lies of the Marxist Pigs on Animal Farm.

  • GregS

    Gosh! Lot of people here think communism is dead, the Russians have over 4oo years of counter espionage and counter counter espionage(we started oh around Dec 8 1941). It will never go away, communism is more then politics it's deep down envy of what others have accomplished along with the guilt some have for there accomplishment and from that point it becomes a political movement of deception, since most of those people are atheists and for whatever reason seem to have the burden of creating heaven on earth. They will defeat envy and guilt by regulating what we have, so no one gets their feeling hurt… Or something. Pick up "Shadow World" and "Legacy of Ashes The Story of the CIA " and don't forget to watch the news, you should get a load of what the current administration is slowly doing.

    • Guest

      "… since most of those people are atheists and for whatever reason seem to have the burden of creating heaven on earth."

      It is a form of messianic gnosticism rooted in the Kabbalah – a form of Jewish mysticism which seeks to establish an earthly Eden – a world free of want, strife or conflict. In short a delusional impossibility which has had the perverse ancillary consequence of mass executions; gulags and forced starvations killing multiple millions. The inmates are running the asylum.

      • JeVo

        where did you get information about the killing multiple millions? Show me the source of these stats?

        • Guest

          …the last word above is communism

          • JeVo

            I, unfortunately, did not find the information who is the author (it is a publisher, but he is a historian? writer ?…) but there is a solution frantsuskogo court that he took all steps to remedy the sections of the book raised questions about the number of victims of the Holocaust. I would like to not confuse the concept of repressed (convicted) and executed (killed).
            of repression in the USSR in 1921-1953 years.
            Total sentenced to death (in cases of state security bodies in 1921-1953 gg.): 849,735 (according to other sources – 835194, 835197, 799455 or 642980 people)
            On political charges of deprivation of liberty for years 1921-1953. have been sentenced – 2,369,220 people (according to other sources – 2,634,397 people), to link and expulsion – 765 180 people (from other sources – 413,512 people).
            This is less than a million killings (along with criminal offenses)
            I can give a lot of sources, such as Zemskov, Victor N. – candidate of historical sciences, senior researcher, Institute of History of the USSR Academy of Sciences of the USSR.: http://www.tuad.nsk.ru/ ~ history / Author / Russ / Z / Zemskov / index. html
            or the basis of documents http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/db-docs/pages/1/
            Interestingly it seems to me that the United States today has the largest gulag in the world. Do you want to compare? http://corporatism.tripod.com/ratesusa.htm

          • JeVo
          • JeVo

            frantsuskogo= france

    • GregS

      I think the Black Book of Communism is the best bet for understanding the millions upon millions starved by the different Marxists ideologies all over the world. China, Tibet, Russia, the Ukraine, just to name a few. Some cases was pure murder others it was just "central planning" making decisions about what people should grow for food even if it does not grow in their region.

      • Guest

        In my reply to JeVo's request above I cited the URL for the Black Book which the site Monitor deleted for some unstated reason.

        • JeVo

          Thank you, I could see. I'm surprised that continues to frighten communism. I was born in the USSR, I lived in Hungary, the Baltic States, Siberia … all is not as scary as they say about Russia. China, as it seems to me far more fraught with danger. Because this country does food, clothing …. for the whole world (the Chinese industry has enslaved the whole world) and nobody has the power contrary to China.

      • JeVo

        Planning sotsialist economy has, of course, have drawbacks. But there are also positive aspects:
        The absence of inflation or inflation close to zero;
        Unemployment is close to zero;
        Less social stratification of society;
        The ability to focus all resources for the production of certain products that may be important, for example, in wartime or socially significant products
        Absence of crisis and competition
        Therefore, the capitalist countries have borrowed from the planning of the USSR. This is known as the Economic and administrative zoning. It exists in order to remove the contradictions and disparities in economic development across the country, inadequate use of natural, economic and human resources of the underdeveloped regions.

        • GregS

          You must be kidding jevo, the absents of inflation?? A socialist country has to have a sugar daddy like the U.S. to by 75 percent of what it manufactures wine coco cheese and BIGGER cars. Just like European socialist have had in the U.S. since WWII, but the gig is up as we take from the rich to give to the poor our economy has gone kaput! and As we see in Europe today they may all be at each others necks soon. The absence of competition is what creates the "crises", as the nation become a mediocracy, instead of a meritocracy. Socialism only works for one or two generations because it can't create more wealth just production limitations. Unless it can sell to Americans. If America does not throw back the over regulated free market the whole world will suffer very soon.

          • JeVo

            No, I'm not joking what period do you mean? Stalin do below prices every year. In 1964-1985, even critics of the Soviet Union recognized that the Soviet Union, inflation was 2-4% per year. I actually remember a lot less. I can talk about it, because I remember the price (in figures and relative to incomes: public utilities payments – is 1 / 10 the minimum wage, 1 liter of petrol- 1 / 400 of the minimum income, education is free: institutes, universities; medicine is free..) Thats why the older generation, and supports the communists in our country because they remember how we lived then. In USSR they was confident in the future. The younger generation does not know it, they hears only propaganda, how bad the Soviet Union. I think this is a specially made.

          • JeVo

            In addition, if the USSR was an empire, then it is one of all empires that do not rob its colonies. Thats why now exist on the world map the Central Asian states (before the Soviet Union it was the steppes of Altai with nomadic tribes), in the Baltic countries until the mid 20 th century wore shoes made of wood (klomp)

          • JeVo

            If you want to speak about economy, it is better to make it not here – many disputable themes which you speak. This crisis shows that the wrong thesis "the market regulates itself" (Adam Smit, Rikardo); Keyns was right

          • JeVo

            PS by the way, in 1945 75 % of gold reserves belonged to the USA, today a public debt of the USA – the biggest in the world. There can be this distinction and there is a price of 50 years of comfortable life of the USA (it worked two generations)?

          • JeVo

            I do not like to compare the USSR and the U.S., you must remember in what state was the USSR and the United States after 1945? The USSR was almost completely destroyed by the war (European part), the industry was destroyed, the factorys transported to the Urals, agriculture is in decline, killing large numbers of working-age population, there is a duty for Lend Lease to the United States …. At this time the U.S. economy is the world's number 1, enter the dollar as world currency (this is also a great article income). As with this very different start of the two countries to discuss and compare these models economies? In this case, the USSR was able to rebuild the country, improve our economy, to keep the cold war with the United States, helps residents of Vietnam, Korea, Africa …. In addition, if the Soviet Union was an empire, then it is one of all empires that do not rob its colonies. Thats why now exist on the world map the Central Asian states (before the Soviet Union it was the steppes of Altai with nomadic tribes), in the Baltic countries until the mid 20 th century wore shoes made of wood (klomp) …

          • JeVo

            I do not like to compare the USSR and the U.S., you must remember in what state was the USSR and the United States after 1945? The USSR was almost completely destroyed by the war (European part), the industry was destroyed, the factorys transported to the Urals, agriculture is in decline, killing large numbers of working-age population, there is a duty for Lend Lease to the United States ….

          • JeVo

            At this time the U.S. economy is the world's number 1, enter the dollar as world currency (this is also a great article income). As with this very different start of the two countries to discuss and compare these models economies? In this case, the USSR was able to rebuild the country, improve our economy, to keep the cold war with the United States, helps residents of Vietnam, Korea, Africa …. In addition, if the Soviet Union was an empire, then it is one of all empires that do not rob its colonies. Thats why now exist on the world map the Central Asian states (before the Soviet Union it was the steppes of Altai with nomadic tribes), in the Baltic countries until the mid 20 th century wore shoes made of wood (klomp) …

          • JeVo

            At this time the U.S. economy is the world's number 1, enter the dollar as world currency (this is also a great article income). As with this very different start of the two countries to discuss and compare these models economies? In this case, the USSR was able to rebuild the country, improve our economy, to keep the cold war with the United States, helps residents of Vietnam, Korea, Africa ….

          • JeVo

            In addition, if the Soviet Union was an empire, then it is one of all empires that do not rob its colonies. Thats why now exist on the world map the Central Asian states (before the Soviet Union it was the steppes of Altai with nomadic tribes), in the Baltic countries until the mid 20 th century wore shoes made of wood (klomp) …

  • GregS

    Remember all the KGB and many communist party guys became the owners of every industry of consequence after the fall of the wall's. They were never interested in "The Peoples" anything. They have power over all in their minds. What's the saying for Marxist's?
    "2 steps forward 1 step back"
    and "endless pressure, endlessly applied"

    • Liberty Clinger

      Here again George Orwell weighs in on the prime self-serving contradiction of Marxist Communism – the Orwellian lie called "economic equality."

      “It had long been realized that the only secure basis for oligarchy is collectivism. Wealth and privilege are most easily defended when they are possessed jointly. The so-called "abolition of private property" (Communist Manifesto) meant in effect the concentration of property in far fewer hands than before… In the years following the Revolution it (The Socialist Party of Oceania) was able to step into this commanding position almost un-opposed because the whole process was represented as an act of collectivization… It had always been assumed that if the Capitalist Class were expropriated Socialism must follow… since these things were no longer private property it followed that they must be public property. Ingsoc (Socialist Principles of Oceania), which grew out of the earlier Socialist movement and inherited its phraseology, has in fact carried out the main item in the Socialist program with the result; foreseen and intended beforehand, that economic inequality has been made permanent.” George Orwell – 1984

  • Ricardo

    A traitor to the Soviet Union? How is this a bad thing to be?

  • Let be smart

    There are 2 unofficial parties in Russia. Party of cooperation under president Medvedev http://medvedev.kremlin.ru/and party of concerns under premier Putin http://premier.gov.ru/ Party of concerns uses such articles to prove that americans are stupid and narrow minded. Perhaps you don't no it but many russians read foreing press. http://www.inosmi.ru/ Congratulations to the article author and those fulls who support him! You are "usefull idiots" as Lenin said.

  • Gylippus

    The scenario is plausible. It would have been a risky gambit but may have been seen as the best of a series of poor options.

    It seems unlikely that the Soviet apparatus would not have had contingency plans to retain vestiges of power in the event of a catastrophic crisis.

    There is some evidence, post-facto, such as the apparent continuity of power among some former KGB elements and the ruling party today. But it is not conclusive.

    Certainly Putin is clever enough, and ruthless enough to have seen the opportunities that existed for people with his skill sets after Gorbachev's fall.

    Either way, the collectivist and authoritarian mindset that drove Soviet Communism is still alive and well, and has deeply infected the west. Much of that had to do with subversive KGB efforts throughout the cold war.

    What interests me is whether or not any remnants of the KGB (whether in Putin's FSB or elsewhere) are still directly involved in guiding the efforts of the international (including American) left. There doesn't seem to be any direct evidence to that effect but a lot of inderect evidence.

  • from Kazakhstan

    Idiot

  • SoCal

    Wow. We have a marxist in the White House. A cabinet full of marxists. A group of marxist czars, and judges with marxist leanings. Our education system is riddled with them as well as our press. No, it cant happen here. Nikita was an Idiot!!

  • bulrushcat

    Dreams of mind…

  • RuyDiaz

    Jamie, you are wrong. You are capable enough that this won't end your career–but this one surely should not go in your resume.

    Golytsin is as reliable as a Yugo. His conspiracy fantasies have done enough damage already. Please, please! think this one through. There are easier explanations for our present situation. Russia's leadership is making things as it goes along, not following a masterful deception from half a century ago. There is no need to invoke conspiracy when simple human frailty will do.

    Disappointedly yours;

  • Lancey Howard 2

    This dog does not hunt anymore. The Soviet Union is dead and Russia is apparently very much alive. Even the Russian Communist party is a nationalist party friendly to the Russian Orthodox Church. The Russians frankly have done a better job opposing jihad than we have. Who's proud of the Islamist mess we've made out of the Balkans? Did you know our clown in Tblisi is a friend to Islamists? Did you know our State Department constantly lectures Europe to take Turkey into the EU and has outreach programs to Muslims in Europe to "empower" them? Did you know Jesse Jackson is now going to work out of Britain for "minorities" supposedly targeted by the police…that of course means a lot of jihadists. So who exactly is the threat to the West—Obama or Putin! If we want Russia to cooperate with us on Iran and Venezuela, they expect us to stop helping Islamists in the Balkans and the Caucasus. Sounds like common sense.

  • Yuri

    Bravo Lancey! How come Glazov doesnt get it? We were asking the West not to expand NATO further into the East, that didnt work out, we asked not to install "Patriots" in Poland – that didnt either. We asked not to install anti-russian regimes in the former USSR republics. What did we get in response? Saakashvili in Georgia and Yushenko en Ukrain. Russian economy is now half of what it used to be. Natural resources belong to a chosen few. Life expectancy and quality of living are below any civilized standards. And that is of course a Soviet evil plot programmed by the communist party to destroy America. Are McNew and Glazov just plane stupid or they just pretend to be?

  • http://la-manzana.ru from Russia

    hahah, this story is fantasies)

  • Dmitriy

    Yes! Then Putin will press the button and the mausoleum leaves Lenin, all of us will sharply put on red clothes, we will draw posters, we will get from cases of a rifle and we will expel from garages T-34. Calm down already! We die out and we degrade, at us half of population thieves and criminals, and the second – addicts and drunks. Russia has ceased to exist still in 1917!!!

  • David Gale

    Putin and the old KGB certainly filled the power vacuum and rule like despots. The Oligarchs have been replaced with the new "tugging of the forlock" variety.
    As for the death of Communism :) China as the emerging world super power seems to suggest that the death stories were exagerated.
    The key difference between the two is that China had Deng to bring in market economics to a Socialist country while poor Russia had the drunkard Boris.

  • http://www.balticstagparty.com Baltics Tag Party

    I’m developing a site site and I was thinking of altering the template.Yours looks pretty nice! You could visit my website and tell me your viewpoint!

  • Liberty Clinger

    And BTW, uranium enrichment is not the only nuclear weapons issue here; there is also the issue of plutonium weapons.

    "Once operational, the reactor will produce plutonium than can be used for weapons. Given the rogue nature of the Tehran regime, its claims that the Bushehr plant is a "peaceful" facility separate from its military program is not credible."
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/china

  • Wordcrunch991

    To produce weapons grade material (with lower concentration of Pu-240) out of the fuel rods they would have to be extracted every four months. That is an event that could not be hidden given that Iran relies on an external supplier.
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/bush

  • Bob

    By the way Iran has the same right to have the nukes until single other country in the world has it. All of those non-proliferation treaties are complete nonsense.

  • Liberty Clinger

    No totalitarian nation has a right to weapons of mass destruction; they will either be used on their own people or for intimidation or war-making against free nations.

  • george

    And why nobody is talking about Pakistan, which is not less dangerous in a long run while enjoing a nice flow of money from the US?

  • Liberty Clinger

    Agreed, the most likely Iranian plan is to enrich uranium for fission weapons – on the Pakistani model.

  • Bear from Russia

    Your propaganda is so rude. We had the same in our country 30 years ago. It seems US is becoming a new USSR. US is always right. US is the Empire of Good. Those who don't agree with US are mad terrorists. And after such things you really don't understand why the world doesn't like you?

  • Liberty Clinger

    Propaganda means government lies through mass media – what I say is truth spoken as an individual.

    The United States is in the middle of a Marxist counter-revolution – if they win we will become an Empire of Evil – if they lose we will restore ouselves as a Great Constitutional Republic founded on sacred human freedom.

  • Philosopherking

    And what reason do you have to believe that is true?

  • Bear from Russia

    Your mass media belongs to huge business groups, this business also gives money to Democratic and Republic parties for elections, so this people influence both your government and mass media. In Russia we have nearly the same situation, I know it because I am Russian. The only difference is that you have 2 main "parties" and we 1. Interesting thing that our government want to copy your style and tries to create a second "huge" party. About your fair mass media that never lies: they often lie to you because they support the interests of their owners. For example do you remember the Munich speech of Putin? I've heard it in real time and he really doesn't offend USA and West much but you mass media turned the situation as if he declared a war on you. About our mainstream media: they lie too. But we Russians are very resistant to propaganda because we lived in USSR and are used not to believe mass media very much. The fact is that we usually know English and use different sources of information not only Russian speaking but English speaking too. And what about you? Hope this comment will not be deleted as some others.