Flight 253: The Lessons Not Learned – by Jamie Glazov



Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He is the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of the new book, Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America. He can be contacted at davegaubatz@gmail.com. Visit his new site MuslimMafiaInternational.com.


FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Let’s talk about the recent botched terror attempt on Flight 253 and whether it has been a wake up call for Americans and the Obama administration.

Gaubatz: I wish I could tell you that it has been a wake-up call but unfortunately that is not the case.

Let me begin by saying this: I believe if you ask the same left-wing politicians (who wittingly and unwittingly are supporters of Islamic-based terror groups) if America should again start using the correct terminology of “The War on Terrorism,” there would be no change in their attitude or way of thinking in regards to Islamic terror groups. Most politicians and news organizations still have more allegiance to Saudi Arabia than they do America and our children.

FP: Can you explain further what you mean by this?

Gaubatz: Well, Jamie, our book, Muslim Mafia, reveals the strong ties the Saudi government has in influencing the shape of America in regards to instilling more violent aspects of Islamic Sharia law into our system.  Our security actually comes down to money. The more money we allow Saudi Arabia to pump into our country, the more control and influence they have over every aspect of our lives.  Why we allow a country that advocates the destruction of our country to dictate what news journalist’ provide to the public is a good question for Americans to ask.

In 2007, during my first-hand research at Islamic centers across America, I was continually coming across a booklet being distributed by CAIR (Muslim Brotherhood). The booklet cover seemed innocent enough, but when I began reviewing the editors and authors of this book, it was apparent they were Wahhabi and had Saudi-backing. Some were convicted terrorist serving life prison sentences in America.

I personally coordinated with the Saudi Embassy in Washington DC to determine if they (the Saudi Govt.) were responsible for distributing materials to innocent children written by convicted terrorists trying to destroy America.  I asked the Saudi Embassy to send me their best example of Islam. A few weeks later, the Saudi Embassy sent me a book by Ali Al Timimi. Timimi and others had been plotting to commit terrorism against innocent men, women, and children in America.  The Saudi Government said Timimi was their best example of Islam.  Readers should note they did not send me the Qur;an; they sent convicted terrorist material.

FP: You have the evidence?

Gaubatz: Yes. I have my recorded conversation with the Saudi Embassy and the original manual and package that the Embassy sent the material in.

Keep in mind Jamie that the Saudi government and CAIR also put this manual in our schools and public libraries.

FP: This is crazy. What can be done about this?

Gaubatz: While in high school and college I was very interested in history.  Numerous times I asked myself how did the world allow leaders such as Adolf Hitler and his supporters to exterminate over six million Jews (men, women, and children)?

Now in January 2010, I am asking myself: How can the world allow innocent people and countries to be so terrorized by Islamic based terrorist groups when we know their intentions are to destroy the world and kill millions of people in order to meet their objectives of an Islamic Ummah (Nation) under Sharia law?

Well, part of the answer is that today our country has a man as our President who is more interested in apologizing for America to foreign dictators than to show allegiance to his country and fight for its security. The media, meanwhile, refuses to expose OBama’s negligence; instead giving groups like CAIR airtime to propagandize their violent ideologies. They give CAIR more airtime than they do a U.S. military veteran like me.

CAIR presents no evidence, only rhetoric that time after time is proven to be full of lies.

And why? Because many journalists are fearful of the Saudi influence. Many politicians gain financially from their dealings with the Saudis. Many media businessmen have more allegiance to the Saudis than they do our own country.

FP: In your book, you mention the U.S. military has been infiltrated by Islamic terror supporters. Can you be more specific?

Gaubatz: Over the years, specifically since returning from Iraq in 2003, it still amazes me that people find it difficult to believe terrorists would infiltrate the world’s best equipped and well-trained military. It amazes me even more how our nation’s leaders do not even address this national security matter.

People need to ask themselves: Why would Islamic terrorists not join the U.S. armed forces?  Where else can they receive better military training and collect intelligence on their enemy? This is fundamental 101 in the intelligence field.  My team and I did not rely on 2nd or 3rd hand intelligence in regards to determining if the Muslim Brotherhood was active in America. We went inside. The best source of intelligence is always ‘inside’. This is why CAIR pushes for more Muslims in political positions. They can control America from inside. The documents in Muslim Mafia support this and thousands other documents we obtained provide more details.

FP: Let me ask you about your knowledge concerning “Friendly Fire” incidents in Iraq and Afghanistan.

During your research at Islamic Centers you came across information in 2007 about these incidents that reveal that some of them may not have been so “friendly.”

Tell us what you have learned.

Gaubatz: In regards to ‘Friendly Fire’ incidents in Iraq and Afghanistan, if I were the son, daughter, mother, father of some of the soldiers who were killed in these countries by alleged friendly fire, I would be demanding full investigations.

On Dec. 14, 2007, I went to an Islamic Center in Knoxville, TN. (yes recorded and evidence obtained). I had an extensive conversation with a long-time member of this mosque. He was also a former Nation of Islam member. This man described to me in detail how some U.S. Muslim soldiers are killing their own troops because, per his words, U.S. Muslims do not want to kill their brothers (the Islamic terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan).

FP: Did you provide this information to law enforcement?

Gaubatz: I provided the intelligence to the organization that paid for the research and strongly encouraged this intelligence to be provided to law enforcement immediately.  During the Mapping Sharia research project we uncovered numerous pieces of intelligence similar to this.

FP: What’s next?

Gaubatz: First-hand intelligence is always the best evidence. I have developed a web site to provide concerned people copies of Muslim Brotherhood material my team and I have collected during the last few years from Islamic Centers in America.  I will have thousands of audio lectures, Islamic terrorist manuals, books, videos, Islamic School manuals (advocating violence), and other related materials for people to use as education, research, and evidence to demand their elected leaders and law enforcement to take legal action against Islamic leaders advocating treason and sedition against our country. The site is Muslim Mafia International. All funding received from this project will go directly into conducting more first-hand research.

FP: Dave Gaubatz, thank you for joining us.

  • Robert Bernier

    Wow! Read this one. It is really good. And this gentleman says it just like it is.

    This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii
    for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body, he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now. He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president. Consult : http://xrl.us/bgeewc

  • Robert Bernier

    Americans WAKE-UP

    Hate to the US is part of a deep and sincere ideology.
    PMW Director Itamar Marcus spoke in the US Congress several month ago about the dangers inherent in the creation of a PA state. While US President Obama and other senior politicians have touted the creation of a PA state as beneficial to American interests, a PA state would in all likelihood ally itself with America’s enemies, he said. Among the statements quoted in the report: “Allah, take hold of the Americans and their allies… Allah, count them and kill them to the last one and don’t leave even one.” Ahmed Bahar, speaker of the PA legislative council, on PA TV in April 2007. Be correctly informed :


  • http://revirene.com/ Irene Bonney

    I cannot help but be continually amazed at the naivete, or is it stupidity, deliberate or natural, that embraces the decisions and actions of first of all, Barack Hussein Obama, and then those professionals and politicians who seem to blindly stagger like drunken men in their approach to obvious national opponents.

  • http://revirene.com/ Irene Bonney

    I cannot help but be continually amazed at the apparent stupidity of Barack Hussein Obama whether intentional or just natural, in his responses and actions towards obvious opponents and enemies of the nation and of democracy itself. How the media and politicians can be bought and silenced to the detriment of freedom, right and the good of the people is appallingly naive.

  • mssdz

    Thank you Jamie for all your insight , I have read your book ” United In Hate” and it was an eye opener for me. I have passed it along to my pastor and also pass along your articles like this to people I work with. It is sad money is corrupting most of our politicians.

  • Codrid

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  • USMCSniper

    The biggest lesson to be learned is that Terrorist states or proxy terrorists who impinge on America's freedom or threaten American lives has chosen the rules of the game. Defense is okay but a good offense must bring their war to them. They bomb a public place, we bomb ten of theirs. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire Muslim city. Our strategy should be to make Jihadist terrorism so horrific and costly that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans or American assets

  • LindaRivera

    Innocents of the Free World have been sold out and wickedly betrayed by Western leaders. The humanity-hating Left with their intense hate for G-D are united with Islam to utterly destroy Western civilization. Our Western civilization is based on the laws G-D gave to Moses in the Bible, as:

    You shall not steal
    You shall not bear false witness (lie)
    Exodus 20

    He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death. Exodus 21:16

    G-D gave His Laws to protect. No one gets a free pass to break G-D's Laws because of their 'religon' !!!

    Founder of Islam, Mohamad, beheaded 700 Jewish men because the Jews obeyed G-D's Laws and loyal to G-D, refused to follow the new religion of Islam. The Jews' wives and children were seized.

    Deuteronomy 6:4 is the very essence of Judaism, and it is because of the Jews' loyalty and great love for G-D that the Jews were murdered.

    Hear O Israel. The L-RD is our G-D and the L-RD is One. You shall love the L-RD your G-D with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4

    G-D is so wonderful, no-one needs to be forced to worship Him! G-D's mercy is real! G-D is not merciful in word alone, but in acts and deeds of mercy! G-D's requirement for ALL humanity is KINDNESS:

    And what does the L-RD require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your G-D. Bible, Micah 6:8

    For the day of the L-RD draws near on all the nations. As you have done, it will be done to you. Your dealings will return on your own head. Bible, Obadiah 1:15

    G-D hates violence. It was because of violence, that G-D brought the flood upon the world.

    Let men call on G-D earnestly that each may turn from his wicked way and from the violence which is in his hands. Bible, Jonah 3:8

  • thinker1

    Lesson ignored?Read this news:
    It's our policy: Some terrorists can fly without secondary screening
    By: David Freddoso
    Online Opinion Editor
    01/06/10 11:57 AM EST
    Terry Jeffrey at CNS carefully reads through a July report from the Homeland Security Inspector General and finds this passage:

    “Not all known or reasonably suspected terrorists are prohibited from boarding an aircraft, or are subject to additional security screening prior to boarding an aircraft.”
    In other words, you've been waiting in lines and subjected to harrassment by TSA employees for about eight years now, all for naught. We're not even scrutinizing real terrorists. I'll have more on the cost-benefit of our pretend airport security system in tomorrow's column.

  • tlwinslow

    The answer all along is called Muslim Ideological Profiling (MIP). If it had been started in 1999, there would never have been a Muslim attack in the U.S. homeland. How much blood will it take before it's started? A nuke on U.S. soil?


  • idviking

    I think that the “systemic failure” that everyone is talking about is that the underwear bomber was purposefully not screened because he is black and a Muslim. In an effort to prove how politically correct and morally superior they are the PC morons out there were trying to make a point about how they don't discriminate against anyone even if there is overwhelming evidence that it is warranted. The “systemic failure” is the absurdity of political correctness. I imagine the situation room chewing out of the security apparatchiks was not on how to protect the American people from terrorism but to facilitate damage control of the crumbling politically correct culture.
    The Ft. Hood shooting should have been the death knell of this ridiculous mindset. Instead the incident on Flight 253 highlights the fact that those who embrace the PC mindset are more concerned with protecting terrorists than the USA. Does another plane have to fly into a building full of people before government does its job?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-C-Davidson/100000093579423 John C. Davidson

    There must be a questionaire that screens these Czars hired to oversee us which fails to answer whether or not the candidate has common sense. Not a one I have heard speak has demonstated any.

  • LindaRivera

    Council on American-Islamic Relations: “Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” – Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder).

    Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine's annual convention in Chicago, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who “kill themselves for Islam,”

    Jihadists are winning because of pro-Islam Western leaders. U.S. Airport Security is Deliberately and Shockingly Destroyed for Islam:

    Controversial Muslim group
    gets VIP airport security tour
    Feds show CAIR latest screening steps,
    sensitive counterterrorism procedures
    August 18, 2006

    The Department of Homeland Security
    took a Muslim group with known past ties to terror organizations on a VIP tour of security operations at the nation's busiest airport at the same time British authorities were working to break up a plot to blow up U.S. airlines.

    On June 21, a senior DHS official from Washington personally guided Muslim officials from the Council on American-Islamic Relations on a behind-the-scenes tour of Customs screening operations at O'Hare International Airport in response to CAIR complaints that Muslim travelers were being unfairly delayed as they entered the U.S. from abroad.

    CAIR is a spin-off of the Islamic Association for Palestine, identified by two former FBI counterterrorism chiefs as a “front group” for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas.

    Several CAIR leaders have been convicted on terror-related charges.

    During the airport tour, CAIR was taken on a walk through the point-of-entry, Customs stations, secondary screening and interview rooms. In addition, U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents were asked to describe for CAIR representatives various features of the high-risk passenger lookout system.


    ’“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
    —Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.

    In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: “2030-then we take over”

  • LindaRivera

    Instead of our leaders showing grief and asking forgiveness for our military murdered at Fort Hood (the government knew for quite some time that the Muslim killer was a significant terrorist threat), the government let us know that their BIGGEST concern was that there might be a back lash against Muslims.

    It is quite evident that the Administration are more concerned about securing the safety of Muslim terrorists than they are in protecting innocents. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost ALL terrorists are Muslims. As one person commented: Discriminate or DIE. It appears Obama and our government prefer that we die.

  • LindaRivera

    JIHAD Against Americans is UNOPPOSED by Washington

    Muslim terrorist training camps that teach murder of non-Muslims and violent Islamic conquest of America are allowed. They are not considered the enemy. Homeland security informed America who are regarded as the enemy: peaceful, patriotic Americans – pro lifers, tea party attendees, returning war veterans who risked their lives for America. God help America.

    'Chilling' new video: How to slit throats
    Jihad maneuvers taught at New York compound
    December 15, 2009

    By Bob Unruh

    A new video released by the Christian Action Network shows Muslim women at a compound in New York state practicing throat-slitting techniques and assault weapons attacks.

    The video was distributed by the makers of the movie “Homegrown Jihad: The Terrorist Camps Around the U.S.,” which documents how a jihadist group has developed dozens of training camps across the nation.

    WND reported at the time how Jamaat ul-Fuqra has built 35 compounds – mostly in the northeastern corridor of the U.S.

    …The U.S. State Department's 1998 “Patterns of Global Terrorism” report notes the organization “seeks to purify Islam through violence.”

    The report continued, “Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practice their faith and insulate themselves from Western culture. Fuqra members have attacked a variety of targets that they view as enemies of Islam.”

    CAN, led by Martin Mawyer, has researched Muslims of America for years and has provided its video to the FBI, State Department and Homeland Security. To date, there has been no response from the government, the group said.

    …”Gilani has stated he is preparing his members to the Soldiers of Allah, and he's set up the most advanced guerrilla warfare training camps,” he said.

    The organization's “Homegrown Jihad” video includes a chilling scene of Jamaat ul-Fuqra's leader Sheikh Mubarak Gilani telling followers to “act like you're his friend. Then kill him.”

    According to the Religion of Peace website, there have been more than 250 jihad attacks by Muslims around the globe – including two inside the U.S. – in just the last two months.The death toll from the attacks has surpassed 1,400, the report says.

    New MOA Terror Training Video Exposed

  • coyote3

    What you say makes a lot of sense. I am certainly no fan of this president, but this half assed approach to “war” did not start with him. As far as I am concerned, no one has taken this thing seriously yet. I don't see anything wrong with anything you propose, except maybe doing even more offense than you propose.

    My biggest criticisim of this current fiasco is, that after all that is happened, this administration chose to treat this underwear bomber as a common criminal, rather than interrogate him as a terrorist. The very fact that they have charged him as they have precludes interrogation of the type likely to bring forth good information. The sad part is, this guy was radicalized, but, apparently not very well trained, but he got through. The good part, “would” have been that his lack of training would have made him very vulnerable to enhanced interrogation, (yes, torture if you want ot define it as that), and we might have got some valuable follow up information. Now, it is possible we wouldn't have gotten anything, because he doesn't know anything, but by charging him as they have, we are not likely to ever know. Truly, the American people seem to deserve what they are getting. They apparently don't deserve the protection they have.

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