Hate Speech from the Ground Zero Mosque Imam

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Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Pamela Geller, founder, editor and publisher of the popular and award-winning weblog AtlasShrugs.com. She has won acclaim for her interviews with internationally renowned figures, including John Bolton, Geert Wilders, Bat Ye’or, Natan Sharansky, and many others, and has broken numerous important stories — notably the questionable sources of some of the financing of the Obama campaign. Her op-eds have been published in The Washington Times, The American Thinker, Israel National News, Frontpage Magazine, World Net Daily, and New Media Journal, among other publications. She is the co-author (with Robert Spencer) of the new book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America (forward by Ambassador John Bolton).

FP: Pamela Geller, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

I would like to talk you today about the discovery of more extreme and troubling statements that have come from the “moderate” Ground Zero mosque Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. A new audio has surfaced. Tell us about it and when was it recorded.

Geller: Thanks Jamie, the audiotape, segments of which are available at AtlasShrugs.com, was recorded on July 12, 2005. It’s a speech Rauf gave at The Bob Hawke Prime Ministerial Centre in Australia. The speech reveals that he is not even close to being the “moderate” that the media always portrays him as being. This speech Rauf delivered contains numerous statements that belie his moderate image and raise serious questions about what the mega-mosque will really be standing for once it is up and running in lower Manhattan.

Like Osama bin Laden and other jihadis, Rauf blames America and sees America as more evil than the terrorists. Here is what he says about how the U.S. is worse than Al-Qaeda:

We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non-Muslims. You may remember that the US-led sanctions against Iraq led to the death of over half a million Iraqi children. This has been documented by the United Nations. And when Madeleine Albright, who has become a friend of mine over the last couple of years, when she was Secretary of State and was asked whether this was worth it, said it was worth it.

We all know what a profoundly misleading statement this is. It is curious that Rauf makes no mention of the 270 million victims of over a millennium of jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilation and enslavement. Nor does he say anything about the recent slaughter by Muslims of Christians, Hindus, Jews, and non-believers in Indonesia, Thailand, Ethiopia, Somalia, Philippines, Lebanon, Israel, Russia, China. Rauf’s words manifest no candor, no willingness to admit that Muslims have ever done anything wrong. He shows none of the mutual respect and readiness to take responsibility that we might expect from someone with such a reputation as a “moderate.”

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  • Kim Bruce

    In 2004, he said the U.S. and the West must acknowledge the harm they have done to Muslims before terrorism can end. Speaking at his New York mosque, Rauf said:____"The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. But it was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets." ____I believe he is a Rauf in sheeps clothing.____

  • http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com Tom Degan

    Here is what's happening, boys and girls: In case it slipped your mind, there is an election coming up in November. In the last few months the Republican party has been in the process of imploding (and it's been so much fun to watch, too!) As was I predicted over a year ago, the so-called "Tea Party" would end up being an albatross around their collective neck. Sure enough, the mindless extremism of these nitwits is starting to scare the hell out of that mysterious segment of the electorate who describe themselves as "moderate". What to do? Find an issue – any issue – that will distract the people. After a desperate search that must have taken them weeks, they finally found that issue last week in – of all places – lower Manhattan.

    THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING! THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING!

    They grabbed this non-issue and ran with it. Then the corporate media (you shouldn't be surprised) decided to play this story to death like Hotel California and Stairway To Heaven. And it worked like a charm. Very few of us are at present thinking about the utter mess that six years of Republican control of the executive and legislative branches of our government made of this country. Instead we're wasting precious time thinking about a non-issue. Just for a moment let's put our minds on the things that really matter:

    The economy
    War in Afghanistan
    Massive unemployment
    A multi-trillion dollar debt
    The plunder of our national treasure by Wall Street
    An environmental catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico….

    ….and what the hell are we talking about? A non-existent "mosque".

    http :www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

    Tom Degan

    • claspur

      president Soetoro will become a two year lame duck in 70 days, Mr. Degan….get used to that idea.
      The first order of business, I hope, in the newly republican-controlled house and senate will be to commence impeachment proceedings against this treasonous usurper.

    • John Campbell

      "It's all Bush's fault!"

    • Wesley69

      Mr. Degan, you're are the arguments of a self-deluded leftist, who sees absolutely little danger from Obama's policies and Radical Islam. This debate over the Mosque, is not the most important issue, granted. But it exposes the thinking of the President about the issue. Only after one year and six months are we discovering what Obama (Mr. Transparency) is all about.

      • Wesley69

        As for the true issues:

        The economy – Failure to help small businesses create jobs due to future costs of Cap & Trade and ObamaCare. Hidden regulations in bills coming to light.
        War in Afghanistan – Strategy to win with a surge, then puts out a timeline for withdrawal. Enemy is not stupid.
        Massive Unemployment – Stimulus created few, permanent private sector jobs but rewarded Obama's constituents with pork.
        A multi-trillion debt – Bush spent a lot, but Obama in one year+ has spent and will spend us into bankruptcy.
        Plunder by Wall Street – Wall Street does need oversight, but restrictions on capital gains restricts investments, hinders job growth. Corporation heads work for other countries and corporations leave the US for business friendly countries.
        Crisis in Gulf – Obama's Katrina – check who did a better job in the minds of the people of the Gulf states.

        Mr. Degan, we all have our bias. Neither you or I possess the total truth. It is usually to be found somewhere in the middle.

    • Jim Johnson

      So it's true then. It was George Bush who flew his plane into the World Trade center just to create a distraction. Thank heaven for you truthers.

    • Don Ho

      The economy , Afghanistan , unemployment (aka "economy"), debt (aka "economy") Wall Street , (aka "economy") and Gulf of Mexico.

      Why not just oil and the economy? In fact, you can even skip "economy" since we are spending $1 trillion per year on oil and another half trillion for defending our access to it. The "real war" should be fought at home – against our addiction.

      "Moderate muslim" is an oxymoron, as this article points out. We can skip the euphemisms from here on, since violence, jihad, and Islamic beliefs are all one and the same.

    • Ed Dantes

      Funny how the Dems have controlled congress for the last 3 and 1/2 years….since Jan 07 when they booted the Repubs. hm….how is it a prescient group like the Dems could not see the housing bubble…..oh yeah. Dodd and Frank were prime movers in the F. May. F. Mac ponzi scheme.

      Obama is heading towards retirement; in Nov 12, he will receive the full fury of the electorate.

  • Gamaliel Isaac

    Notice how Imam Rauf did not mention the Iranian children soldiers who were killed in the Iranian war against Iraq. Instead he makes up enormous figures of children killed by American troops

    • mjmiddleton

      Yes, and he failed to mention that the starvation in Iraq was caused, not by the sanctions (there was the "oil for food" program which allowed oil sales for food and medicine for children). But Saddam Hussein (and some global corporations and bankers stole over 18 billion dollars of that money.

      Also not mention is the more than 3 million southern Sudanese and half a million Darfuri citizens killed, through starvation, militia attacks and downright genocide by the Islamist regime in Khartoum, which is backed by not only the Muslim Brotherhood, but the entire Organization of Islamic Conference and the Arab League.

  • ApolloSpeaks

    The issue is national security and a deceptive radical Islamist Imam who wants to destroy our society with Sharia law.The massive opposition to the mosque that cuts accross party, ethnic, racial and religious lines (including a growing number of Moslems) shows that Americanism, patriotic nationalism and love of country is very much alive.

    Google ApolloSpeaks at townhall.com and read my piece: Daisy Khan and the Atrocity of Opposing the Ground Zero Mosque.

  • http://netzero.com Steve Chavez

    Freedom of speech! Freedom of Assembly! Freedom of Religion! "G** Hates F****!" this RELIGIOUS GROUP screams at military funerals, and the Constitution will back them up, but do they really have to spit on our soldiers during their funerals and during their family grief which then causes more hate and anger?

    The Constitution also backs the Mosque but aren't they just spitting on all of us which then causes more hate and anger?

    Why are moderate Muslims silent? Out of 1.2 billion Muslims, how many are moderates? Are there 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 moderates? HOW MANY ARE WILLING TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE HIJACKING OF THEIR RELIGION BY EXTREMISTS?

    "Why are moderate Muslims silent?" Could it be because they are afraid of the "peace-loving, understanding, tolerant" Muslim brothers who would feel it was their duty, according to the Koran, to cut their heads off, commit honor killings, throw them out in the street and set them on fire while still alive, cut their hands,ears, and tongues off?

    IF THEY DO THAT TO THEIR OWN, INCLUDING THEIR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS, WHAT WOULD THEY DO TO "INFIDELS" LIKE US?

  • kafir4life

    It's only hate speech if it offends the gutter cult of islam. Otherwise it's religious freedom. muslims cannot be free to practice their gutter cult faith, following the teachings of the pedophile mohamad unless they are free to malign and kill infidels. Only then can muslims be free……..Expect the 9th circuit court (or a New Jersey judge) to make it a-ok.

  • Jimbo

    Hussein let those children die while he lived in absolute luxury, refusing to simply stand down to save those children. The alternative to the sanctions would have been to let him continue ethnically cleansing his country. This imam is just another cookie-cutter sponge for conspiracies. If he rants like this in public, what is he up to in private life?

    • mjmiddleton

      Ever heard of BNP Paribas? It was the Paris based bank officially designated by the UN to handle the oil for food disbursements. If you dig for the information, you will find that this bank, and their parent Canadian company (Power Corp) somehow "lost" 18 billion dollars in oil revenues slated for food and medicine for the hungry children of Iraq. The UN investigation which delivered a so-called "hard hitting investigative report" on the misappropriation put most of the blame on Kofi Annan's son. (He allegedly made out with 200,000 or so). But guess who led the "investigative team"? Non other than former Federal Reserve Chairman, Paul Volker, a former CEO of Power Corp. And the mainstream media completely missed it. It was too convenient to simply blame America. You can't make this stuff up.

      • fmobler

        Thanks, MJ, for that reminder. BNP stole money from a crook (Hussein); the people of Iraq died for the crimes, and the American people get the blame. Let's not forget that our very own press buried the scandal.

        • mjmiddleton

          Exactly. The mainstream media has a lot account for. Ever hear of Bilderberg? If not, its not surprising because the entire mainstream media — including both those on the "left" and those on the "right", have conspired to black-out any news coverage on it. Yet these meetings are attended by key political leaders, including heads of state, and other prominent economic, financial, corporate and media officials. Power Corp, is a Bilderberg regular, so its not surprising that they would lean on the media to cover up their involvement in the "oil for food" deal. What is surprising is how the whole charade has been able to exist for so long without the American people raising a hue and cry.

          Interesting, as well, is the fact that Bloomberg himself is a regular attender at Bilderberg meetings.. Americans should be asking a lot of questions about the mainstream media.

          • fmobler

            I'm not much of a conspiracy fan. A mentor of mine was fond of saying “don't attribute to malice what can be explained as sloth” The MSM may or may not be covering up. But it is incompetent. As for Bilderberg specifically I'll bet it is not terribly important. But the fact that it is ignored by the press is malpractice.— On Wed, 8/25/10, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:

  • Carolyn

    When Imam Rauf insists that it is wrong to murder INNOCENT people, is he talking about other Muslims? I have read that only Muslims are considered to be innocent. If so, then his statement is from the heart and completely honest.

    • mjmiddleton

      Muslim imams are often highly intelligent and very proficient at "doublespeak". The are extremely adept at using words or phrases that will mean one thing to the West, and another thing to the Muslim world. Obama himself seems to have mastered that skill as well.

  • claspur

    Robert…
    Never knew about al Husseini until I picked-up "Icon of Evil" a couple years ago, in the library.