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FP: What has been the role of Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez?
Adams: Perez was not at the Department when the corrupt dismissal was ordered. He was confirmed in the fall of 2009 and has defended it since.
FP: Some media outlets are reporting that you are saying that Perez lied under oath.
Adams: It is not accurate to say that the facts and law did not support going forward with the case. Tom Perez wasn’t in the Department when the dismissal happened and he didn’t have anything to do with the dismissal of the case. He isn’t responsible for the corrupt decision to dismiss the case and shouldn’t be blamed for the dismissal. I have never said Perez knowingly lied under oath. I said that it is inaccurate and false that the facts and law did not support the case. Lying under oath involves, as best as I know, more than being incorrect or inaccurate. In this media age, stories get inflated to generate traffic and that is usually a bad thing.
FP: So what’s really happening here under the Obama administration? Is it “payback” time or what? Has a former oppressed minority now become an empowered majority with vengeance on its mind?
Adams: I don’t think the Obama administration is interested in payback. But neither do I think it is interested in enforcing the law in a race neutral fashion.
FP: What was your experience in the U.S. vs. Ike Brown case in Mississippi? The Left was pretty enraged about it.
Adams: We won that case. Ike Brown committed flagrant racial discrimination against whites – threw out their votes, stuffed the ballot box with his votes to dilute white votes, illegally imported ineligible candidates to run, and threatened white voters with a challenge if they sought to vote. Chris Coates talked about the hostility he encountered when he brought this case. There were many in the voting section that voiced opposition to it, refused to work on it, and treated him with hostility after he filed it. It went against the Orthodoxy, to borrow a term.
FP: Who is dictating DOJ policy and what are the consequences?
Adams: The Civil Rights Division is now managed by and populated by folks who believe in leveraging the Division aggressively in only one direction in litigation. These are not bad people, they are just wrong on many issues. On many issues they are right, but their hostility to equal enforcement of the law is not one of them.
FP: What are the attitudes and backgrounds of DOJ political appointees?
Adams: This has been written about extensively in other places. (See Hans Von Spakovsky in NRO). All of the leadership of the civil rights division comes from what is called the “civil rights community.” Simply, this means activist groups or causes. Elections have consequences.
FP: What dangers does this dismissal of the New Black Panther Case pose for the future? What will it mean for the ballot box? And what will it mean for white victims in voting rights cases?
Adams: One of the things that makes America exceptional is how we believe the ballot box as sacred. Thug regimes around the world and dangerous phases in world history got their start with men in uniforms holding weapons standing in front of polls. In my mind, history shows that this is one of the characteristics when democracies start to devolve into totalitarian regimes. I’m not implying America is on that path because, for starters, the widespread outrage to the Black Panther dismissal shows how little tolerance there is for this in America. But we can never forget the warning signs history has told us, and we must be extra vigilant when they appear. Ronald Reagan said we are always a mere generation away from losing freedom. I don’t know whether that is true, but if it is, anytime you have thugs violating our most cherished rights, freedom loving citizens must rise up and give no quarter.
FP: What can be done about this problem?
Adams: The Department could refile the case tomorrow. They would win the panther case if they did. It’s tough to admit mistakes in government but this would be a good place to start because nearly everyone would support them. The Department could also file cases in voting on behalf of white victims to reverse this bad policy. There are no doubt cases that can be brought, but whether they bring them or not, we will have to see.
FP: Christian Adams, thank you for joining us at Frontpage Interview. We really appreciate you taking the time and energy to speak with us.
Adams: Thanks. You can follow my blogging about elections and the Justice Department at www.electionlawcenter.com.
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