Lies about Samaria


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FP: Your thoughts on the Mideast peace process and its assumptions?

Gottlieb: The peace process has been stumbling along for nearly 20 years now and has accomplished nothing except to make the prospect of peace as remote as ever. Beginning with the 1991 Madrid Conference, the fatal flaw of the Mideast peace process has been that it’s based on an erroneous premise, namely that the region can find a lasting peace if only Israel gives up land. It is based on the assumption that the dispute is about land and about borders. It’s not. It’s about any Jewish presence in the land. The Arabs themselves make that very clear. As far as they’re concerned, it’s either us or them. We must face the truth – the emperor has no clothes and we should stop with the charade. The Two State Solution is unworkable.

We need to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. Rescind Oslo. Dissolve the PA. Apply Israeli law to all of Judea and Samaria and destroy the terrorist infrastructure there. Then, from the various existing alternative peace plans we must select one which gives Israel sovereignty throughout Judea and Samaria while providing the local Arab population with certain basic rights including limited voting rights. This would give Israel the defensible borders it needs while providing the local Arab population a higher standard of living.

FP: Israel survived for its first 19 years (1948-1967) without the Shomron. Why can’t she relinquish it now and continue on without it?

Gottlieb: The fact that Israel survived its first 19 years with “Auschwitz Borders”, to quote Abba Eban, doesn’t mean she should go back to them. During those years Israel endured regular fedayeen terror attacks from Jordan which forced her to retaliate. It’s also appropriate to mention here that the Green Line is not, nor ever was, a border, but merely the non-binding 1949 cease-fire line. An international border corresponding to the Green Line is indefensible and a recipe for a future war.

FP: A careful reading of your blog shows deliberate use of terminology. Why is your choice of words so calculated?

Gottlieb: Words and semantics are the weapons of choice in the Left’s War of Ideas. This is how they get their ideas into our heads, through the back door. Their carefully chosen terms are calculated and designed to discredit and delegitimize any Jewish presence in Judea and Samaria. It’s important to understand that their vocabulary is their propaganda. Terms such as “settler”, “Palestinian”, “occupation” are all loaded with meaning, all in the service of furthering their agenda. Their use of “West Bank” or “territories” to define Judea and Samaria, the lands east of the Green Line is a perfect example. These bland, nondescript terms effectively “cleanse” away any historical meaning that this ancestral homeland has for the Jewish People. It erases 3800 years of Jewish history. Through terminology, they try to dispossess the Jews of their natural and legal rights to the land. Unfortunately, it’s working.

Similarly, my blog is written with the same deliberate use of terminology to convey the message that the Jewish People have exclusive rights to their homeland.

FP: What do you hope to accomplish through your blog?

Gottlieb: The Left’s ongoing smear campaign against the Land of Israel and her loyal supporters begs a response. The Israeli public has for too long been media-brainwashed and needs to hear the other side. Shomron Central attempts to level the playing field by presenting the many compelling arguments for Samaria in an engaging and user-friendly way.

Short term, I would like visitors to my blog to gain an appreciation of the Shomron and to understand why it must always be an integral part of the State of Israel. Longer term, I’d like to help shape public opinion, via the blog, away from a two state solution to the Middle East conflict and towards a workable alternative which protects Israel and assures real peace.

I invite your readers to visit my blog at shomroncentral.blogspot.com.

FP: Michael Gottlieb, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.

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  • ObamaYoMoma

    The Israeli conflict has never been about illegal settlements, extremist settlers, or illegal occupation, as Israel was subjected to repeated wars and almost continuous terrorist attacks even prior to the acquirement of the disputed territories in 1967. The reality is the conflict is really all about jihad as the presence of the Jewish people on land that at one time was formerly Dar al Islam became Dar al Harb with the establishment of Israel, as land that was once part of Dar al Islam must always remain part of Dar al Islam, per the strictures of Islam. Thus, the so-called peace process has always been a sham from the very beginning used by the Islamic world to finagle useful idiots to weaken Israel on their behalf, and in that regard it has been very successful. Nevertheless, there will always be jihad between the Israeli Jews and the Islamic world as long as Israel exists, just like there will always be jihad between the Islamic world and the non-Islamic world as long as the non-Islamic world exists.

  • http://myrightweord.blogspot.com Yisrael Medad

    Glad Michael has joined the struggle.

  • sebyandrew

    He has a great website… <a href="http://.http://www.shomroncentral.blogspot.com/” target=”_blank”>.http://www.shomroncentral.blogspot.com/

    …well worth perusing

  • Larry

    Given the fact that there are so many Moslems in these areas who don't accept the Jewish state, the choices are:
    1. Either rule over a hostile minority without voting rights
    2. Give them voting rights even if there is a risk of them becoming a majority and ending the Jewish state.
    3. Force them to leave.
    4. Give up the land to a Palestinian State that will do everything it can to destroy Israel
    5. Let the "Palestinian Authority" rule the cities, where they indoctrinate the inhabitants to hate.
    At the moment #5 is in action, and #4 may be coming. But all the alternatives are bad, from various points of view

    • Andres de Alamaya

      I would add a 6th option – Give them a ten year trial on 1. If they learn to behave and prove they can be civilized then there is the option of giving them 2. If they don't behave in the trial period then give them 3. Force them to leave.

    • ziontruth

      #3 is what the Torah says to do, and though it's been banned from public discourse since 1988, it's never been from the private sphere, and since October 2000 (the Second Intifada, where pre-1967 and post-1967 Arab alike rose against the Jewish State) has only been gaining ground.

    • Izzy

      Number 3 looks pretty good to me.
      We are not killing them g-d forbid.
      Let them start a new life someplace else just like they did to all the Jews after the 48 war.
      The Sephardic Jews lived in middle eastern countries for over 1,000 years.
      Everyone will kick and scream but eventually the noise will die down and be forgotten.

    • aviefar

      I think that the best solution is leting the Palestinian Arab to rule Eastern Palestine and send king Abdullah to live in his palace in London.

  • moshav

    muslims shouldn't be living in Samaria anyway. Those who are can only be interlopers since they arrived thosuands of years after Jews settled the area. Does it not make perfect sense to expel muslims whose only reason for living is to destroy Israel? arab states expelled almost a million Jews during 1949-1952. They went to Israel. Certainly, simple justice requires that muslim arabs living in Samaria be returned to place or origin, arabia. They will be happy there since imams will indoctrinate them to hate non-muslims and to blame their miserable existence on Jews, modernity, Americans, and Christians,

  • PAthena

    Michael Gottlieb is right. The self-designated "Left" is loyal to the old Soviet Union, which continued the old anti-Jewish policies of Russia. As for the propaganda use of "Palestinian" for "Arab," that comes from the Soviet Union, which, with Nasser in Cairo in 1964 founded the "Palestine Liberation Organization," with all the phony history.
    The Roman Emperor Hadrian changed the name of Judea to "Palestina" after having defeated the last of the Jewish rebellions under Bar Kochba in 135 A.D. From that time on, "Palestine" meant "land of the Jews" or "the Holy Land," and "Palestinian" was synonymous with "Jew". That is why the Zionists wanted the "Palestine Mandate" and that Great Britain was awarded the "Palestine Mandate" after World War I to be "the homeland of the Jews."

  • beniyyar

    Israeli society is clearly divided between those Jews who live and work on the densely populated coastal plain, and are largely secular and Left moderate regarding the Palestinian Israeli conflict and those who live in the less densely populated Jerusalem area, the Territories, the Golan, and the South, most of whom are religious and Right moderate. By the way, the Right and Left designations in Israel apply pretty much only to territorial and religious issues, not economic ones, and generally exclude the 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who always vote Left and radical Left. This is important in that how these people vote will determine who runs the country and who manages the Palestinian Israel negotiations.

  • beniyyar

    This population disparity and the Arab vote is also why the Left wing appeasement oriented and largely secular Kadima party holds 29 seats in the 120 seat Knesset, which when combined as they are with the radical Left wing Meretz and Arab parties, hold up to a third of the Knesset and with the help of an entirely Left wing Hebrew media, are able to inflict themselves on so much of Israeli society. While all Israeli Jews want peace with the Palestinians, the Left is willing to concede far more land, money, water, and even refugees than the Right is. Along with this political divide, the Israel Police, Army, Judiciary, Trade Union, and Education systems are all dominated by and run by deeply Left wing Jews who use their considerable power and influence to stymie and frustrate religious, Right wing, and Nationalist Israel Jews while at the same time assisting and promoting both the Israeli Left and the Palestinians to illegally steal Israeli land, attack Jewish settlers, and use international stage to demonize, delegitimize, and isolate Israel internationally.

    • ziontruth

      "Along with this political divide, the Israel Police, Army, Judiciary, Trade Union, and Education systems are all dominated by and run by deeply Left wing Jews who use their considerable power and influence to stymie and frustrate religious, Right wing, and Nationalist Israel Jews …"

      But as a note of hope: Demography is changing all that as we speak. The religious make more children, and the upper echelons of the Israeli Army are already being scaled by right-wingers.

  • beniyyar

    The Palestinians of course are delighted by these internal Israel divisions, believing that they will one day become so great that they, the Palestinians, will be able to finally achieve their dream of destroying Israel, and exterminating what few Israeli Jews are left. Unfortunately this also means that a divided and constantly bickering and fighting Israel are facing a united and determined Palestinian and Arab enemy. It is also true that Israel is also facing an American President Obama and his Administration which is openly hostile to Israel, plainly and unabashedly antagonistic towards the Jewish People, who is for the time being also the best friend and ally of the Palestinians and the Arabs vis a vis the Jewish State of Israel.

  • beniyyar

    So if you think to yourself sometimes, "What the hell is wrong with those Israelis?" or "What were those idiotic Israelis thinking when they did Oslo, the Disengagement,"or any other hugely stupid or potentially lethal act of appeasement to the Arabs just keep in mind that the Jewish Israeli Left has an incredible capacity for wishful thinking, naivete, and a deep feeling of Jewish guilt for everything.

    • ziontruth

      "… just keep in mind that the Jewish Israeli Left has an incredible capacity for wishful thinking, naivete, …"

      As does the Left everywhere else in the world.

      The time is past coming to the realization, "McCarthy was right"; it's time to say, instead, "He had no idea how right he was." Right squared. 1000000% right.

      Marxism must be outlawed, period.

  • beniyyar

    I have met and talked with these Jewish Israeli Leftists, and believe me, their mixed up anti Israeli and anti Jewish hatred and resentment, coupled with their almost slavish adoration of the Palestinians and everything non Israeli and non Jewish, make other Leftists look like normal and rational human beings.
    About the best way to describe a Jewish Israeli Leftist is as a wild eyed fanatic.

  • ziontruth

    From the OP:

    "… while providing the local Arab population with certain basic rights including limited voting rights. This would give Israel the defensible borders it needs while providing the local Arab population a higher standard of living."

    Why? Why should we do this? Are we, as the Marxists say, colonial rulers wishing to civilize the savage natives? It sure seems so from this sentiment.

    We are the Jews, the only true Palestinians; we are the indigenous of Palestine, and all else who are here and think this land belongs to them are invaders. We owe the Arab settler-colonist invaders nothing, nothing at all. The Arab nation has 22 states, which is 21 more than any nation deserves; and those states are situated on a huge mass of land way beyond that nation's indigenous mandate, which is the Arabian Peninsula. All this talk of us owing them something, or even having to help them in some way, is getting me down.

    We owe them nothing; we owe ourselves freedom from their threatening encirclement of us.

    • morrisdj

      Perfect. All this talk that the "Palestinians" *deserve* a state really annoys me. What have they ever done to deserve it?

  • 080

    The main point about Samaria or the west Bank is that without it Israel would be indefensible. That was the opinion of 100 American generals some years ago. It is all the more true today.

  • http://grainsofsand.insightonthenews.net Shifra Shomron

    Lately we have been witnesses to tourist campaigns from the Samaria. It might be too little too late, but they certainly are trying to attract the masses of the Israeli public to come see with their own eyes. The question remains, how best can they – we – reach the public while circumventing the left-wing media?

  • Dan Sanders

    We need to find the funding from private sources on the Right to run tours to the Shomron for regular Israelis every week! Once you've actually set foot in the Shomron, everything that Michael talks about on his blog becomes very clear and obvious.

  • http://ahuva.com Yehoshua

    Michael, well said. Very accurate. All other options mentioned above are irrelevant as it is clearly the Almighty's will that this chosen land be given to the Jewish people. As a result the Arab Jew hatred is a blessing in disguise. For without it, the assimilated left Jews would be intermarrying and dissolving our heritage as the American Jews have done with 70% intermarriage today. Michael, go forward to audio and video media, this view is unheard there.