Molly Norris Day

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FP: Who issued the fatwa against Norris and why can the FBI not protect her?

Lugo: Anwar Al-Awlaki — radical jihadist imam who likely inspired the Fort Hood Shooter, the Times Square Bomber, and prompted a plot to kill U.S. soldiers — put Molly Norris on a hit-list calling her a prime target and saying that her “proper abode is hellfire.” Eight others of British, Dutch, and Swedish origin were also listed as targets associated with publicizing “blasphemous caricatures” of the prophet. The Seattle FBI special agent in charge never committed to offering protection but only “attempting to do everything in our power to assist the individuals on that list to effectively protect themselves and change their behavior to make themselves less of a target.” In other words, appease the terrorists and hope they will go bother somebody else! Of course, this policy of head-in-the sand only emboldens thugs and terrorists. Oh yeah, schoolyard bullies, too.

Call me cynical but I find it highly suspect that the headlines declaring that the FBI could not protect Molly Norris and announcing that she had “gone ghost” appeared just days after Pastor Jones was coerced into canceling his “burn the Koran” stunt (al-Awalaki put the hit out on her in July but the FBI did not announce its “no protection” stance until September). Seems the government had an emphatic statement to make: “when Islamists threaten violence, your government will press you to back down; if you don’t comply, you are on your own.” The timing of both events underscored a very powerful message from our government. This message was certainly noted more as a victory by the jihadists than it was ever noted by our commentators as a defeat for our liberty-based western democracy.

FP: How come the media is not talking about this? Where is the Left? Where is the ACLU? Progressives are supposed to be for free speech, no?

Lugo: Unlike the solidarity shown in the media and entertainment industry during the McCarthy era, there was no noted support for Molly Norris. Recently, I helped to spearhead the movement that successfully demanded release of U.S. journalist Roxana Saberi from Evin Prison in Iran. There were free speech and press organizations from around the world that rallied to her cause. There is a recognized fault line between the two incidents — where Roxana Saberi was imprisoned on a trumped up charge of purchasing alcohol and was considered an innocent captive of a radical Islamist regime, Norris is thought to have provoked her own death-by-forced-disappearance. Rather that shaming the Islamists for their attempts to control what is said and written in the land of the free and the home of the brave, journalists worldwide largely condemned Molly with their silence.

It concerns me most that so-called feminist groups worldwide ignore the plight of women who suffer abuse or repression under shariah-based systems. I work with several women’s rights groups in Europe and share nothing in common with them politically, but we are joined in our concern for women who do not have the freedom to express fundamental claims to unalienable equal rights and individual liberty. We work to encourage and embolden women who will call for reform of shariah-based Islam. As Ayann Hirsi Ali — the great ex-Muslim convert to enlightenment thinking who authored Infidel — says, if we all stand together and speak out at the same time, it is very difficult to make any one person a target.

Finally, it is important to note that, in an exemplary show of fidelity to expressive rights, the ACLU has stepped forward to represent Derek Fenton, the New Jersey transit worker who was fired after burning two pages of the Koran on 9/11 at the Ground Zero Mosque demonstration.

We all have a role and each must be involved as a vigilant defender against incursions against speech rights and core western traditions. If Europe, where challenges to Islamist demands are often considered incitement to hate, is not instructive on how we must define and defend our culture then the battle is already lost.

FP: Karen Lugo, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview and thank you for your courageous fight for freedom and for those who are persecuted because of their fight for freedom.

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Editor’s note: For the whole story on why the Left won’t come to the defense of individuals such as Molly Norris, read Jamie Glazov’s book, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror.


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  • Jake Neuman

    Excerpt from New book: Islam Evil In The Name of God go to: http://www.godofmoralperfection.net

    SHAME ON US
    WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE
    WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY HAVE WE DEGENERATED INTO

    Before I begin the formal part of this book, I draw your attention to a very great crime that has been committed against an American citizen exercising her First Amendment Right of Freedom of Speech.
    Where is the outrage for Seattle-based cartoonist Molly Norris, who this April called for an "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" on her blog? Norris, who left her job at the Seattle Weekly after heated threats and protests came flooding from the Muslim world, has now reportedly been urged into hiding by the FBI.

  • Jake Neuman

    Excerpt from New book: Islam Evil In The Name of God go to: http://www.godofmoralperfection.net
    Think about this. An American citizen has been forced to give up her rights as an American and go into hiding. Where is the President, Congress, media elites expressing their immediate outrage over this travesty? What kind of country have we become that a fellow citizen has to hide like a criminal for exercising her First Amendment rights. Shame on us.

    NO DEFENSEOF MOLLY NORRIS OR OUTRAGE BY PRESIDENT
    NO DEFENSE OF MOLLY NORRIS OR OUTRAGE BY CONGRESS
    NO DEFENSE OF MOLLY NORRIS OR OUTRAGE BY MEDIA ELITES
    NO DEFENSE OF MOLLY OR OUTRAGE BY ANYONE RUNNING FOR
    CONGRESS

    • Claude

      I think it is time to tell Congress to straighten up and fly right, and time to seriously consider what rights they have, which for one is to uphold our constitutional rights, or they can go to ? maybe Arabia, as they would truly fit in there. The longer I live the worse this country has become, what has become of us, our pride, our liberties, are fast fading into what use to be, I do not have much longer on this earth but for the younger generation, they had better wake up to the fact, each liberty lost is lost forever!

  • Jake Neuman

    Excerpt from New book: Islam Evil In The Name of God go to: http://www.godofmoralperfection.net
    The American constitution is being systemically destroyed. Again, where is the outrage from the media elites who should be absolutely mortified that Molly has to flee for her life?
    All these media elites are protected by the First Amendment.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. These are powerful, timeless words. They stand as a beacon for all humanity.
    Then you tell me:
    Where are the unalienable Rights, to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness for Molly Norris?

  • Jake Neuman

    Excerpt from New book: Islam Evil In The Name of God go to: http://www.godofmoralperfection.net

    Molly Norris has been sentenced to death in America by Sharia Law. Following is the sentence of death mandated by Sharia and imposed on Molly: Mocking anything in the Qur'an or the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad is apostasy and therefore punishable by death. Criticizing Islam, shari'ah law or the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad is apostasy and therefore punishable by death.

    SHAME ON US: SHAME ON ALL OF US COWARDS

  • http://nodhimmitude.blogspot.com DagW

    Glavoz rightly asks: "Where is the Left? Where is the ACLU? …" I ask, "Where are the men?

    How is it that men in this country can stand by while a girl is terrorised by thugs? If men stand by and watch a girl suffer like that, then they would as likely stand by and watch Andrea Dworkin be terrorised. It's not about the women, it's about the men. Where are the men?

  • mikidiki

    In America today there is more chance o fa worship satan day than a Molly Norris Day.

  • Gerard S

    Our Preident is a Muslim and an apologist for the US, what do you expect. He said we are no longer a christian nation (I guess that happened when he was elected ). Any religion that worships a man who advocates stoning women (Islam) is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. It is time to take back our government from those who wish to destroy it. It is time to stand together and overthrow those who wish to destroy the US Constitution.

    • Claude

      Are you mad really mad, then write or call the people in Washington, to stop the Bulls–t now, but do it daily, until they get the message we are tired of business as usual, as I agree this is a critical time in our history as a Republic, if we do not take a stand now we are doomed as a free country, only our deeds will make a differance, our voices must be heard.

  • Chezwick_Mac

    With the advent of technology, particularly the data base, there will come a time when everyone and anyone who ever publicly insulted Islam or its prophet will be on a death list. For example, from a 'Canadian Press' news dispatch…

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    "The Canadian Press reported Monday that an al Qaeda-linked website names more than 100 Arab Christians living in Canada.

    "The site apparently targets them, accusing them of playing a role in converting Muslims. The site, Shumuk Al Islam, includes pictures, names, addresses and cell phone numbers of Coptic Orthodox Egyptians mostly living in Eastern Canada."

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    This is a glimpse of the future for planet earth, folks, care of the "religion of peace".

  • brown

    you all voted for this, so get over it. live with ur liberal crap as i have to. quit complaining and reep what u planted. you stayed silent to long. so do something about it.

  • US NYC

    Too many crickets chirping.

    Sadly, Ms. Norris' point that "you can't kill all of us" may be proven irrelevant.
    The radicals realize that you don't have to kill very many, if you can intimidate most of the rest.

    Where is PEN, or the ACLU, or the American President in all of this?
    Where is Congress?

    And where are the Dutch?
    They've experienced first hand the intimidation of their own writers and cartoonists by murder and threat.
    Time was Dutch Gentiles wore the Star of David when Nazis tried to separate Jews from the rest of Dutch society.
    Now, they prosecute Geert Wilders for questioning whether they should adjust their immigration policy, in the hopes that they will not be a "target."

    Where are the Republicans, and Democrats, who say they once admired JFK?
    Today's "I am a Berliner" speech goes something like: "We really wish those Russians, or I mean those who misinterpret Leninism, would leave everyone alone, but you Berliners just have to be less provocative….."

    I hope that more people make this an issue for the new Congress.
    Maybe, with some new blood, they can be convinced to speak with some authority and officially support Ms. Norris, and all those in her position.

    In the meanwhile, I hope everyone as individuals lends their support to Molly Norris and the cause of free speech generally, in their local papers, on the web, etc.

    Everyone needs to stop legitimizing the concept of "hate speech" which by definition says you should "balance" the fundamental right of free thought (and the ability to express it) by a pseudo-right of someone not to be offended by your ideas.

    "Hate speech" is "thoughtcrime" in the truest Orwellian sense.
    Don't give that concept any quarter.

    • http://southernrunner.blogspot.com loseyateefa

      wish our senators agreed with you when they allowed the FCC to gain control of the internet to guard against all that hate speech. This is the beginning of the end.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Ultimately there is only one solution to the problem and that is outlaw Islam and ban and reverse Muhammadan immigration to the West. Indeed, as long as we have millions of Muhammadans living within our midst, Imams from abroad can issue fatwa’s condemning anyone who publicly speaks the truth about Islam, and they along with millions of other people will inevitably be cowed into silenced. The issue of Islamization isn’t even on the radar of our political elites, but it must be brought front and center. Otherwise, the freedom of speech, the freedom of expression, and the right to privacy won’t be the only freedoms sacrificed on the altar of political correct multiculturalism.

  • Derrick Rasmussen

    My comments have been censored from this site before, so I do not know if this will be posted. I have been called a "pornographer" for posting links to videos "defaming" Islam. If you think Molly Norris was on the right track, however, you might check out the book that I wrote. It defames Islam in a major way, though I think it's quite witty myself. This post may not stay up for very long–those in charge of this site like to censor my posts. Hypocrites, if you ask me. I am only trying to alert people to the menace of Islam.
    http://tinyurl.com/23h89ck

  • Susan

    So the FBI said they could not protect her? Actually what they meant was that they would not protect her, in the same way that they would not protect any of the rest of us who believe in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. "Give me liberty or give me death," has been written out of our history books by "moderate" Muslims.

  • GayMohammed

    The Prophet can blow me.

  • Karen

    @YoMoma. Your goal of banning Islam is as absurd as batting at ghosts in a dark room while blindfolded. An ideology cannot be banned because minds cannot be controlled. Communism is the closest parallel and we had the political will to confront that. Even so, we did not know communists unless they carried cards or were involved with subversive organizations. Exactly! So, we go after CAIR, ISNA, MSA, et al, by exposing their radical and subversive agendas. We stop their advances and we pressure the political branch to track the funding. We can target conduct and we can expose anti-American systems. We cannot ban a way of thinking – not logically, politically, or constitutionally.

  • JustABitIrritated

    I'm sorry, but what she did was extremely inappropriate. I was just reading about it because in Human Geo, we were talking about how Pakistan banned Facebook because of this incident, and this was totally out of line.

    Sure, we are all granted the right to free speech in this country, but that doesn't give anyone the right to belittle someone's beliefs. It is offensive to depict the prophet in Islam because in doing so, some believe that you are instilling your faith in the depiction and not the prophet Himself.

    Why is it so difficult to have some respect for this view? And since when did it become okay to abuse freedom of speech and disrespect a religion because a small proportion of its followers are out of line? There are always going to be extremist groups no matter what religion, ethnicity, nationality, etc. That doesn't mean we just decide to hate on all people that come from that same background.

    Last time I checked, Islam is the second most practiced religion worldwide…so when did it become appropriate to ignore the beliefs of over 1 billion people worldwide? I'm just saying.

    • Merle

      You are very wrong. In America you have the right to offend anyone with your speech. You do not have the right to not be offended. It may be bad manners to insult someone's religion, their dress, their perfume, their fill-in-the-blank, but it is absolutely legal.

      No one said anything about "hating on all people," If their ideas are dangerous and ridiculous, then standing up to them is good and just. Otherwise, we are going to be cowering in our closets while they bully all of us with death threats.

      But then, perhaps you might prefer having sharia law where you do not the right to speak your mind, where there are honor killings and where women are second class citizens shrouded in those awful burqas. I'm just saying.

    • Litesp33d

      There might be over 1 billion Muslims but as most of them are under the age of 12 and have never even had the chance or choice to choose any other path and if you decided to do so you stand a very very high chance of being murdered what does the 1 billion figure actually mean. If 1 billion adults with no knowledge of Islam had studied the subject and then taken it up you argument may have a shred of validity but otherwise to have that many brainwashed people is a shame on humanity.

  • vert

    mean. If 1 billion adults with no knowledge of Islam had studied the subject and then taken it up you argument may have a shred of validity but otherwise to have that many brainwashed clay