Radical-in-Chief


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Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Stanley Kurtz, a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and a contributing editor for National Review Online. He has also written for National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal, Policy Review, and Commentary. He is the author of the new book, Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism.

FP: Stanley Kurtz, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

I would like to talk to you today about your case for Obama’s socialism and why Obama’s radical past matters today.

I think it is best to start with these two questions:

Do the American people really understand Obama’s vision for our country? And if not, why not?

Kurtz: Thanks Jamie.

A widely-reported poll found that 55 percent of likely voters think Obama is a socialist.  These folks are regularly mocked by liberal opinion-makers, of course.  Yet my research shows that the people who believe Obama is a socialist have been right all along.  Obama wants to move America as far as he can toward European-style socialism, and many Americans do get this.

On the other hand, the full truth about Obama’s socialism is not well understood by voters on either side of the political spectrum.  That’s because the recent history of socialism has been intentionally shrouded in mystery.  Peeling back the curtain explains a lot about Obama’s plans, and puts our debates about the president’s political convictions in a whole new light.

The reason few understand the truth about Obama’s socialism is that the community organizers who trained Obama and sponsored his political career intentionally keep their socialism secret.  They do this because they understand perfectly well that the American people would reject their socialist views were they frankly stated.  So Obama’s organizing models and mentors–some of the most influential socialists in the country–intentionally adopted a strategy of stealth.  Obama’s stealth-socialist mentors developed methods of political disguise, including a vocabulary and strategy for advancing socialism without openly saying so.  Obama has mastered their techniques.  I wouldn’t have believed all this myself if I hadn’t read about it in the papers of these socialist community organizers.  But there it is in black and white.

FP: Tell us about your research and sources.

Kurtz: I traveled across the country, searching for archives preserving the papers of the community organizations and socialist groups to which Obama was connected.  These archival documents were incredibly revealing.  They form the basis of Radical-in-Chief.  I also did a great deal of research in long-forgotten issues of obscure journals, many of which contain articles which frankly state the socialist plans of Obama’s organizing colleagues.  Various socialist groups maintained semi-public/semi-private publications called “discussion bulletins,” in which they would air their disagreements and reveal their strategies in ways they dared not do in their official newsletters.

Also, the archives of Chicago Mayor Harold Washington contain historic documents detailing the contacts between Obama’s original community organization and the Washington administration.  The Harold Washington archives even hold remarkable documents revealing the political history of Jeremiah Wright.  This is only a small sample of the sorts of archives I visited.  Putting the story together was like solving a giant jigsaw puzzle.  I traveled from archive to library to archive, following a set of clues and piecing together the hidden story of Obama’s past.

FP: What shaped Obama’s vision?  His years at Columbia, it seems, were quite instrumental.

Kurtz: Obama was a socialist even before he reached Columbia.  But it was in April of 1983, in his senior year, that Obama walked into an off-campus Socialist Scholars Conference.  That conference changed the future president’s life and gave him a program he’s been following for his entire political career, right up to this day.

It was in the early eighties that American socialists turned in force to community organizing as a long-term strategy for transforming American society.  With Reagan as president, conventional socialist nationalization of America’s businesses was impossible.  So instead the focus turned to grassroots strategies for creating socialism “from below.”  Community organizations like ACORN would take hold of the capitalist system from the ground up, forcing banks to make risky subprime loans, for example.  The idea was to create de facto public control of businesses through community organizations, rather than through formal government ownership.

The symbol of all this was Chicago’s Mayor Harold Washington, who worked closely with Chicago’s small but influential collection of socialists, many of whom brought the community organizations they controlled onto the Washington bandwagon.  The buzz at that 1983 Socialist Scholars Conference was that minority-led political coalitions would work in tandem with community organizations to swing the Democratic Party left.  This would incrementally move America toward socialism.  Harold Washington became Obama’s political idol, and Obama was swept up in plans to create a partnership between quietly-socialist community organizers and left-leaning minority politicians to reshape the American system.

Amazingly, the Socialist Scholars Conferences Obama attended in New York in the mid-eighties even put him on the path that led to Reverend Wright.  The Democratic Socialists of America, which sponsored those conferences, had just formed an alliance with the black liberation theologians who were Reverend Wright’s mentors.  Obama would have learned all about the ties between black liberation theology and socialism at those conferences.

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  • http://www.mysapce.com/freddawes1776/ Fred Dawes

    Its all about the BS Obama is only one in a long line of political monkeys of both the left and the right both sides want us all in line for one reason to use us all like monkeys, obama and bush are the best show in town, and remember bush wants mexico here obama wants mexico here with 100 million controlled people all with hands out who want what you have without working for the gold pot. it is all a joke and you who don't get that fact are the joke so stop and open your eyes the big thing coming at you is a third world tank with a really big gun pointed right at your head.

    • Larry

      There are other issues apart from immigration. I haven't heard much from the Republicans about limiting immigration (except from Tom Tancredo, who lost the election in Colorado), but if we allow the leftist termites to bring down the house with their various schemes, we are in the soup.

    • Jim C.

      Well, Fred, maybe you are one of the lucky, wealthy ones. By the way–they're the ones who want Mexico here–their biggest employers are big businesses. Any talk of enforcing that from Republicans? Nah–who would fund your campaign if you came out with that?

      Most thinking people might wonder why the rich got exponentially richer over the last 30 years, while the middle class has stagnated as costs rise everywhere–health care, college, you name it. Are democrats to blame? Sure–they've been selling out to the money all that time, too. But God forbid we average joes stand up to the people who gamble with our retirement accounts, lose, and get bonuses. No–we're supposed to be afraid of Mexicans, gays, Muslims, etc….

  • tom chastain

    david horowitzs books would make great gifts for the holidays for your friends and family
    get started early

  • Ret. Marine

    So he lied, lied some more and is still a lair. So what new revelation are we to gather from this, well nothing new, that's all. I was researching this pretender-n-thief long before he hit the presidential race, and what I saw, mainly by his own deeds and words scared the bejesuuuuz out of this Ret. Marine. While I was shouting from the roof top, the rest of the nation was fast asleep at the change and hope motel.
    Are we to suffer at the hands of seditious, self serving traitors? or are we going to pull ourselves up and kick these commies to the curb? I'd have to say with all the community organizations fast at work dismantling our Republican system, many on the right side our our principles are just as hard at work exposing these traitors one by one. The past election has given this old devil dog some hope for a change. Lets all do our part to keep up the momentum

    • Chris

      I woke up too late, but I'm awake now and have done everything I can to advance the conservative movement. I'm with you, Marine.

      • Spider

        Welcome friend, Thank you for joining those of us who wish to save this great country.

  • DogWithoutSlippers

    Is he is a socialist-muslim?

    • stephencuz

      It really doesn't matter does it, when everything he does is EXACTLY what a Socialist or a Muslim would do.

  • bubba4

    Boy this cultic stuff is getting tiresome. There is nothing "radical" about European socialism…they collect more tax and give more benefits.

    But FPM writers aren't content to just say we don't want that for these reasons…."socialism" has to be some mysterious hyper dramatic plot…a plan put in place long ago by shadowy communists to slowly trick us into socialism. Grow up dude.

    The fact of the matter was after WWII, most of our allies put in place single payer health care systems…including that commie Winston Churchill, just not us. We stuck with a "private" system. So now 50-70 years later….we can take an honest look at how these things play out in various senarios….at least one would hope so.

    But not Kurtz…this poor guy has to spend months of his life trying to build this ridiculous case so he can squeeze another book through some "conservative" imprint…who buys this stuff?

    I'm thankful FPM doesn't pretend to have articles anymore…and now calls them blog posts. Writing a "news article" has too many pesky restrictions like sources and data and facts and such….

    " Although it has not been widely discussed, Obama’s decision to focus on health care in his first year was made in the face of opposition from all of his top advisors."

    Yeah this may come as a surprise to Obama WHO CAMPAIGNED ON HEALTHCARE REFORM YOU MORON….and you wrote a whole book like this?

    "Yet the European welfare state is collapsing."

    Some of them are having problems yeah…but collapsing? Didn't our capitalist system just collapse and require a lot of socialism (money from you and me redistributed to banks and the rich) to prop it up?

    My wife is German and while Germany has its own difficulties, they can reform without resulting to hysteria and fear. In fact Germany has shown us in the last 100 years just about everything we need to know about the pros and cons of socialism, communism, fascism, and just about every other way to govern people for good or for ill.

    But for Kurtz the mission is clear…nice red star on the cover…wink wink..

    While claiming Obama's political philosophy is a mystery…his history a mystery, he pulls quotes and stories from Obama's own books but now Kurtz is going to tell us what they really mean. Way to spend a life Kurtz…you hack.

    • megapotamus

      If there is nothing radical, and indeed objectionable, about European Socialism then let O and his Dem friends run on it openly. Yes, much of this exposed material comes from Obama's books which either the media at large has not read or they are happy to suppress. Here is my question for Obama and for you, bubba, just what is wrong with socialism? From each/to each…. if this is a sound governing philosophy why is it a ridiculous insult, and inaccurate, to call Obama a socialist?

      • bubba4

        We are all socialist now if you want to get technical about it. Everything Obama has done are half measures that keep everything private…so if he's a closet socialist…then he's not a very good one.

    • http://logistory.blogspot.com/ noway2no

      Man, you just make this stuff up.

      What about embracing diversity? Why do we need to be like Germany? Should we also try to dominate the globe; first with aggressive military imperialism and then 20 years later with Fascism and kill 300 million people in the process? After all Germany did it.

      BTW Churchill was out of government within 6 months after the end of the war. Germany has only been able to afford their nanny state because of our capitalism. Germany and all of Western Europe exists today because The USA has given them a multi-trillion dollar shield to live under. They have not carried their own weight for close to 100 years now.

      • bubba4

        "Why do we need to be like Germany?"

        Why cant you learn how to read and argue?

    • BoogiesDaddy

      Didn't our capitalist system just collapse and require a lot of socialism (money from you and me redistributed to banks and the rich) to prop it up?

      Actually social engineering by the left collapsed the system and and it did NOT "require" my money to be redistrubuted to prop it up. But to a leftist it would certainly seem that way.

      • bubba4

        A dog turd would have better recollection of the last two years than you do.

        • Steeloak

          So much for your ability to read & argue – you resort to base insults when your arguments fail. Typical leftist.

          • bubba4

            I give what's deserved. As he assumes the bizarro world understanding that "lefty" is the cause of everything bad…there is nothing left to argue. It's not a base insult…I'm being pithy. I don't have time to address the cult think anymore than I do. Just look at you….

          • BoogiesDaddy

            Sounds like you really know your turds. Hey, do you happen to know what it takes to know one? it takes a lot of time, I hear.
            It is entirely possible that that's why you don't have enough time to address "cult think"…..unless it comes from the left, which is, again I assume, where you all hang out together.

            Yes, I am from bizzarro world, where borrowing and spending will not eliminate or even reduce debt.

          • bubba4

            "social engineering by the left collapsed the system" was how you described the problems that came to a head in 2008-2009. What do you want me to do…write a term paper on the causes of the economic disaster? Your opinion is the well worn meme of FPM…I didn't think the effort would be worth it.

            Especially since you came from the position of "correcting" me with you "knowledge"…its no wonder some of you haven't learned the right lessons from the past, you just change the past in your own mind and problem solved.

          • BoogiesDaddy

            Term paper? No wonder…….You're "enlightened". Save it…economics is NOT ,historically, a strong suit of the left.

            But the left hasn't learned ANY lessons, let alone the "right" ones. The same "spend your way out" crap that was tried with disatrous results by F.D.R. is being tried again…..
            What's the desfinition of insanity?
            Is it still the same if you quadruple down on the borrowing?

            Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are right in the middle of this mess and guess who has done NOTHING about it? Republicans tried to stop it but were in effect shouted down for their efforts. Now it's back to business as usual for Barney Frank and co…
            I think I learned the "right lesson" from that.
            Since this scheme was intended to engineer society so that everyone could have a home even if they could not pay it qualifies for "social engineering" exhibit A.

          • bubba4

            I'm not in college anymore, it's a turn of a phrase you cultist. Like I said FDR destroyed the country and Freddie and Fannie were soley responsible for the financial crisis…you have it all worked out. And hitler was a leftist and the moon is made of cheese.

            "An financial expert and wildly popular blogger, Ritholtz has written time and time again about the lunacy of blaming Fannie and Freddie. He's so sure of his position that he's offered $100,000 to anyone who can prove him wrong. Here's Ritholtz debunking the Fannie and Freddie meme:

            The origination of subprime loans came primarily from non-bank lenders not covered by the [Community Reinvestment Act, a law pushing the two GSEs to purchase more loans in the secondary markets and thus expand access to housing loans to low-income neighborhoods];
            The majority of the underwriting, at least for the first few years of the boom, were by these same non-bank lenders;
            When the big banks began chasing subprime, it was due to the profit motive, not any mandate from the President (a Republican) or the Congress (Republican controlled) or the GSEs they oversaw;
            Prior to 2005, nearly all of these sub-prime loans were bought by Wall Street—NOT Fannie & Freddie;
            In fact, prior to 2005, the GSEs were not permitted to purchase non-conforming mortgages;
            The change in FNM/FRE conforming mortgage purchases in 2005 was not due to any legislation or marching orders from the President (a Republican) or the the Congress (Republican controlled). It was the profit motive that led them to this action."

            So I would contact him and collect your reward. Then again the memes stand up better if never exposed to non-cultic light.

            You learn lessons all right, but like so many here, you have a self righteous disgust fueled by this rag which is no longer even trying to pretend to be journalism.

          • BoogiesDaddy

            I never said Freddie and Fannie were the sole cause
            or that FDR destroyed the country nor did I mention Hitler or the composition of the moon. Nice swerve to the insanity bench though.
            Wow! an financial expert and wildly successful blogger!!!!!!"
            I guess I should believe him then. If you had posted this in the first place we could have saved a lot of time for you to fight this cultism. You Rock!

            I'm not impressed whith his BS any more than I am with Obama's BS. The greatest oraters of the left never really say anything that can be proven, do they? I mean history has disproven most of their positions.
            What does impress me is his inability to mask his left bent while trying to convince merely by his assertions that there is truth in any of it……Is that all it took to get you to chug the cool-aid?
            What fuels YOUR dusgusting self righteousness?

            p.s. Obama quacks like a duck!

          • bubba4

            "I never said Freddie and Fannie were the sole cause
            or that FDR destroyed the country nor did I mention Hitler or the composition of the moon."

            No that was me making fun of your "views". You did say it was the main cause or you tried to say as much.

            "Wow! an financial expert and wildly successful blogger!!!!!!"

            It saved me having to write it out.

            "I'm not impressed whith his BS any more than I am with Obama's BS. The greatest oraters of the left never really say anything that can be proven, do they?"

            Who's "they" exactly? "The Left"? So what you say is true because you say so and if someone disagrees they are "the left".

            "I mean history has disproven most of their positions."

            Again…who's? WTF are you talking about…we were talking specifically about Freddie and Fannie and your assertions about their role in the economic disaster.

            "What does impress me is his inability to mask his left bent while trying to convince merely by his assertions that there is truth in any of it"

            I don't know dude. If you only have to figure out if he's "left" to decide if what's he's saying is true or factual, then do it and get it over with. You can't be wrong now…the world's "left" and you're a champion of freedom.

            "Is that all it took to get you to chug the cool-aid?"

            Huh? We all had to form opinions about the economic collapse based on the information we took in about it. I took in everything I could. You took in FPM. I didn't want to challenge your stupid meme because I know of it's inpenetrability…so I told you I didn't want to write a term paper. Then I give you what you ask for with a simple google search and you don't like the messenger of this message…so go google it yourself.

            "What fuels YOUR dusgusting self righteousness?"

            Is this the "I am rubber you are glue" defense. Grow up wanker…

          • BoogiesDaddy

            I said Freddie and Fannie were in the MIDDLE of it.
            Maybe you should stick to what people say instead of what you think they were thinking at the time.

            Hey, you can tell after a few sentences who the cultists are but when it comes to in your face liberal mouths you can't think of a single one?
            as you say: "It saved me having to write it out."

            "You learn lessons all right, but like so many here, you have a self righteous disgust fueled by this rag which is no longer even trying to pretend to be journalism. "
            What's this the old see all, know all Offense? That along with name calling and self justification of rudeness seem to be your MO.
            Yea, I know. You are tyhe voice against cultism.
            You should get more gum!

          • bubba4

            LOL…you said it was the "left's" social engineering (in the form of Freddie and Fannie) that caused the disaster. Now you are backpedalling. I would stick to the core ideas only but you are all over the map.

            If you can't take a little pithy discourse then don't talk to me and assert things that are untrue. If you do, don't get butthurt when I don't let you get away with it.

    • Rifleman

      If socialism is so great, why does the dp try to hide what they are and periodically come up with new words to name it whenever people match the policies with the name?

      • bubba4

        Because it's innaccurate most of the time. When it is accurate, FPM and the cult try to make it communist. If there was honesty in our culture maybe…

        • USMCSniper

          You really are too stupid to even suspect you are stupid!

          • bubba4

            And you're a serial liar….but thanks for checking in.

        • Rifleman

          It is what it is, no matter what you call it. Nobody forced the left change what they call themselves again and again to try and escape the bad reputation they repeatedly earned.
          It's nobody's fault but the dp's that the dp shares the perspective and follows the tenants of marx, and anybody who understands them can spot it regardless of the label it tries to hide behind. I’m not surprised to see American culture blamed for the dishonesty of the left.

          • bubba4

            I can't seem to answer you….FPM won't let me…let's see if this gets through…

          • bubba4

            They did this before…I can't take the time to figure out what magic words aren't accepted.

          • Rifleman

            It does it to me sometimes as well, but not nearly as often as it used to. It does seem to happen at the worst times. Try a reboot

    • Jim C.

      I don't know, bubba4. Maybe we should embrace conservativism. After all, if conservatives had their way, social unrest and chaos would eventually come quicker: it would hasten ACTUAL socialism.

      On the other hand, apply democratic solutions and you maintain social order, even though the rich might stop getting quite so rich and therefore (snicker snicker) not create all those trickling down (hah hah hahahhahahaaahhha) jobs….

      Immensely idiotic article–I agree.

      • bubba4

        Why do you think civil unrest would hasten "socialism"? Civil unrest would make it easier for the powerful (or "rich"…whatever) to take even more power….and it would make it easier for the cultist to break out the fear tools on unpresidented levels.

        If the Republicans have there way (not that they would expect this) we will take a path that will look like Robocop in a few years…anyone remember the reality in which that story takes place?

        • Rifleman

          Read marx and lenin for the answer to your question, bubba.

          Robocop wasn't reality, it was fiction, hollywood fiction at that.

          • bubba4

            You're about as much fun as a kick in the head. The world of Robocop was a dystopian oligarchy you moron…Where the police (like just about everything else) was privatized. Yes it was fiction…duh…

            You guys pretend incidents like the Russian revolution can just happen anytime…like this evil philosophy has a multi-generational plan to pollute your fluids. This is the only "story" some of you can relate to anymore.

          • Rifleman

            Yea, what some hollywood lefties' idea of what a privatized police force would be like.

            Communist revolutions don't just happen, that's part of the point. When yall quit using classic marxist thinking, policies, and tactics, I'll quit pointing it out. It's no fault of mine that history and the facts are on my side, and you're stuck on an old, wrong, and long-discredited way of thinking.

          • bubba4

            Yea, what some hollywood lefties' idea of what a privatized police force would be like.

            You're a cultist rifleman…you can't even watch a movie without making it "left" or "right". It's sad.

            You can't argue without calling people "leftist". You think you can assume what people think/feel/believe based on your own narrow false dichotomy. Your the epitome of the FPM (now just a blog) reader. Lazy…old…with the humor of a brick.

            The day I stand up for Marxist principles and champion Stalin, you can rightfully put me in my place. Until then, stop talking at me like a starry eyed cultist that thinks he is a Guardian of Light against the forces of darkness.

            I swear the egos around here. Everyone's the hero in their little capitalist/communist drama which for too many is just a modern psuedo-political extension of their religious drama in which they are the "good" one.

          • Rifleman

            Bubba, I don’t fill the movies leftist nonsense, I just notice they’re full of it. Again, when they quit trying to indoctrinate me to socialism, I’ll quit pointing it out. I’m not the cultist politicizing everything under the sun, that would be the cult of marx.

            “The day I stand up for Marxist principles and champion Stalin, you can rightfully put me in my place” — So your standing up for marxist principles is to be ignored unless you stand up for stalin as well? Nonsense, and it’s not for me to put you in your place (there’s that socialist thinking again), only you can rightly do that. I just point out where you are, and that apparently bothers you.

          • bubba4

            Yes, and how is Robocop trying to indoctrinate you to anything?

            "I’m not the cultist politicizing everything under the sun, that would be the cult of marx. "

            Well..you can say it, but it doesn't make sense. Maybe you are thinking of your own screenplay in which the Marxists are holding anti-marx hearings to kill all the freedom loving capitalist….LOL

            "I just point out where you are, and that apparently bothers you."

            No you don't. You don't even seem to know where you are. You're tendency to call everything "left" is more of a stutter or mind fart than it is you making an penetrating observation. We were talking about Robocop….LOL

            I can watch movies and enjoy them without fearing the secret socialist agenda of "hollywood". I work in film and there is an agenda all right…to make money…and there is no singular cohesive mind to this city or this industry.

        • BoogiesDaddy

          You got everything I said exactly backwards.
          You also have reality backwards.
          Well, let us look at the peaceful, economically viable societies in Socialist countries in the world today or over the past 3/4 century. Oh, there really aren't any. Even the more "democratic" of them are experienceing riots because their policies are flat out unsustainable.
          You call me a cultist and you keep repeating crap like this:
          Civil unrest would make it easier for the powerful (or "rich"…whatever) to take even more power….and it would make it easier for the cultist to break out the fear tools on unpresidented levels.
          "The powerful" and "The Rich"…….I know and you should know that there are rich and/or powerful leftists out there….Socialists, even!

          .

          • BoogiesDaddy

            The "rich and powerful" do not usually gain more power during a revolutionary period. They get their heads whacked along with the rest of their families. Conservatives are not the control freaks that the socialists claim they are. Robocop? Really? It looked more like Chicago or Philly (or any city where Democrats have had control for over 20 years) than any midwest town I have ever seen where conservative ideals dominate.

            I await your next pile

          • bubba4

            The "rich and powerful" do not usually gain more power during a revolutionary period. They get their heads whacked along with the rest of their families.

            That's because when the rich and powerful overthrow a government we call it a coop. "Revolutions" usually come from "the people"…but you are thinking of the communist revolutions specifically…

            No one is talking about a communist revolution…you guys were talking about civil unrest in this country as a chance for the commies or marxists or whatever to take power…and that's just not going to happen in this country.

            "Conservatives are not the control freaks that the socialists claim they are."

            What are you talking about?

            " Robocop? Really? It looked more like Chicago or Philly (or any city where Democrats have had control for over 20 years) than any midwest town I have ever seen where conservative ideals dominate."

            It was Detroit actually…in Robocop…um it was simply an example of a dystopian future..an oligarchy. That's it. It's not a movie about the left and right struggle…lol. I don't think they checked in with midwest towns, because it wasn't a political movie, it was about a cyborg…lol

          • bubba4

            Well…I wasn't responding to you above…look at the thread levels.

            "Well, let us look at the peaceful, economically viable societies in Socialist countries in the world today or over the past 3/4 century. Oh, there really aren't any."

            How about all our allies. They have to reform and adapt during this global recession just like we do. Greece is an example of nepotism and corruption, not necessarily an example of social programs always fail.

            "Even the more "democratic" of them are experienceing riots because their policies are flat out unsustainable."

            France has protests because of they want to raise the retirement age over there. We are going to have to do the same thing here….raise the age…not protest. You make it sound like hungry people are rioting.

            "You call me a cultist.."

            Only when you talk like one.

      • BoogiesDaddy

        Ah yes. Social unrest always accompanies conservative government. Like Greece? France? How about Russia, Germany, China…….

        I guess you are right once the "demcratic solutions" kick in there is no civil unrest. (snicker, snicker)

    • AcidAgogo

      they can reform without resulting to hysteria and fear.!?!
      I think the Jews were afraid.

    • Sameold

      Europe was destroyed by WWII. No one "wanted" socialism. It was pure necessity that caused it to be installed and now it has out worn it's welcome. Socialism always, underline that, always, destroys a country. It has it's very limited place in the world and within a capitalist system but overall, no. It kills, and it destroys and funniest of all, it prevents PROGRESS.

      Not that someone like you would even care or acknowledge the meaning behind the fact that Alinsky dedicated his book to Satan, but for the rest of us it's like going into the jungle and noticing that there are a lot of critters running around with a reddish color on them. For most people with a brain in their head, that would let you know that they are most likely poisonous . For people like you, you'd be wondering what kind of pet food you should buy when you pick it up to take it home.

      Good luck Bubbles, you'll need it.

      • x'd again

        okay daddy!

      • bubba4

        You're creepy. The only reason any of you know Alinsky's name is because Horowitz and co decided that scary dead people that wrote books a long time ago are easy to fear monger about.

        I wonder what your assessment of European socialism is based on? If you read FPM, you'd think western europe was on fire and muslims were running around in the streets cutting off people's heads.

        Ever been to Europe?

        Look, the europeans have their own share of problems to work out during this global recession. Countries like greece didn't go broke because they were socialist…they went broke because they were corrupt and their government defunct. Just like when bankers, hedge fund managers, and investers create exotic financial instruments and "create" wealth from nothing…and then end up crashing the system…that doesn't mean "capitalism" has failed…it means they were corrupt and betrayed the civic responsibility (not to mention logical economics) that underlies democratic captalism.

        But you have a problem talking about things rationally. Try not to bring Satan into political discussions and then not assume that whoever your speaking too embodies the worst stereotype you can form about your boogeyman.

  • Gamaliel Isaac

    Aside from Obamacare the most dangerous socialist program that Obama is engaged in has been largely overlooked and that is printing money. Printing money redistributes the wealth. It makes our dollars worth less as it puts dollars in the pockets of those Obama wishes to redistribute the money too. It undermines any tax cuts that the Republicans or for that Democrats enact since it is the equivalent of a stealth tax. It steals the value of our money. It transfers power from the people and from businesses to the president. It must be stopped. The only effort I've seen from Republicans to stop it was a letter written by Michelle Bachman to Ben Bernanke. That is not enough. The Federal Reserve and through them the president has way too much power. Congressional and Senatorial authorization should be required by a large majority for the massive money printing that the Federal Reserve is engaged in. The Republicans and Tea party better move quick. Printing money is not only a socialist policy it is a very dangerous one see the article "The Kamikaze Obamanomics of John Maynard Keynes" on the web.

    • Jim C.

      name one thing socialistic about "Obama's" health care program. ONE.

      • copper

        Where have you been? Even the Dems admitted after it was passed that it is WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION. The way it is structured, it will put ALL private health insurance companies out of business, then guess what? The government will have control over every health care provider; doctors and their offices, hospitals, nurses, labs and radiology. This is so that every health care worker can be forced to unionize – the great destroyer of capitalism. Even Obama's new head of CMS has said that government health care is redistribution of wealth. Turn off Jon Stewart and listen to objective analysis instead of Obama's propaganda machine!

        • bubba4

          OK…we now know you are well versed in the false propaganda. We still have a private system. Who do you think demanded the mandate if they couldn't take sick people and kids off the rolls….insurance companies.

          If Obama had formed a Nation Health Service and we were shifting to a single-payer health care system then all this screaming about socialism would at least be more accurate.

          Basically you think it's "bad" because it's bad. Yeah the Daily Show is one big propaganda machine….lol…you can't even enjoy a comedy show you cultist.

        • Jim C.

          Hello??? "wealth redistribution" happens in every society, everywhere, always has, always will. Where have YOU been? In the last 30 years, we've been redistributing wealth UPWARDS. Maybe you are one of that 1%–congrats! The Republican wish came true. And that's the problem.

          What's that? You didn't realize that tax cuts, deregulation, and free markets really only helped a miniscule percentage of the population? And that years of proceeding in this manner led us stright to where we are right now? That the poster boy for Milt Freidman/Ayn Rand, Alan Greenspan, is giving speeches admitting those principles aren't all they're cracked up to be? Maybe you should turn off Fox propaganda and take an ECON 101 course!

  • http://netzero.com Steve Chavez

    Everyone please google: Obama Columbia Sundial 1983. This is an article Obama wrote for the school newspaper on anti-war/nuke groups including CISPES, The Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador. This is important since the CPUSA, Cuban DGI, and Soviet KGB were using American Communist-front groups to aid in their takeover of Central America!

    "U.S. Out of El Salvador!" "El Salvador is Spanish for Vietnam!" American Communists aided the Communist Sandinistas using college students LIKE OBAMA! Rev. Wright also said in one of his speeches "our brothers and sisters in El Salvador!" THAT IS WHERE REV. WRIGHT AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER AMERICAN RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, MOSTLY THOSE WHO MAIL-ORDERED FOR THEIR COLLAR TO FOOL AMERICANS INTO GIVING THEM FUNDS TO AID AN IDEOLOGY THAT DOESN'T EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD!

    ION PACEPA, a frequent writer for FPM, has written about his direct operations under the Soviet KGB's WORLD PEACE COUNCIL! (Google Ion Pacepa John Kerry KGB) In the eighties, there was the U.S. Peace Council run by the CPUSA and they had a affiliates in every state including here in New Mexico where Gerry Bradley was also the head of the NM Marxist Educators for Socialist Action! At one of their meeting, their guest speaker, George Meyers, Chairman of the Labor Department CPUSA, advocated "the overthrow of the United States through force if necessary!" I STILL HAVE THE FLYER!

    THE 80'S WERE CONTROLLED BY THE SOVIET KGB AND OUR COMMUNIST PARTY USA! OBAMA WAS DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THESE FRONT GROUPS AND WAS BRAINWASHED BY THEM AND THEN BY WRIGHT!!!

    Hillary Clinton also gave up to $12,000 to fund the FMLN REBELS IN EL SALVADOR, as many in Hollywood were too through Ed Asner! JUST LAST YEAR, THE FMLN WON THE PRESIDENCY IN EL SALVADOR AND HILLARY CLINTON WAS THE HIGH RANKING U.S. OFFICIAL AT THE INAUGURATION! Remember too their stance on Manuel Zelaya of Honduras!

    With the election victory of last week, the protests by Tea Party, and Glenn Beck, Americans are standing up against the COMMUNIST AGENDA! STOP SAYING "SOCIALIST" SINCE IT IS A P.C. TERM! WE ARE AT WAR! CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE: COMMUNISTS!

    They were brainwashed by Soviet-style Communists NOT EUROPEAN SOCIALISTS!

    Obama is a COMMUNIST!!!

  • Spider

    Obama never fooled me. I knew from day one he was a total phony. I think a lot of other people knew it too but were in denial because of the revelation of having someone like this as president was too horrible a thought. But as the bible says the truth is a aword, one which Obama will be put to in less than two years..

    • bubba4

      and he's BLACK!

      • Steeloak

        I don't dislike Obama because he's black, I dislike him because he is RED!

  • USMCSniper

    The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails them. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

    Author unknown

    • Fred Glass

      Amen!

  • Bob Miller

    I saw signs of the socialist stealth community organizing strategy in NJ as early as 1974-5, but only realized its true nature and its broader context and implications while reading this fine book by Kurtz. It's rare to find a book that reveals secrets of events of one's own life in a way that rings 100% true.

  • http://apcnational.wordpress.com/ Mike in VA

    As Ret. Marine stated, we have to keep up the momentum – we don't want to become the victims of our own success and become complacent. Make no mistake, the neo-Marxist Left will NEVER stop pressing its agenda, and unless we match its dedication, persistence and relentlessness, we are going to lose our country. This is going to be a long, hard fight with no end in sight, but it's a fight we can win if we maintain our resolve.

  • Michael

    B.O. is the ultimate ANTI ….anti America ,anti whites ,anti business ,anti Christ . anti aunt , anti Wright ,anti Bush , anti GOP .
    Community Organizer is a polite term for a Socialist Pimp.
    American Christian Infidel
    Michael Canzano

  • flyingtiger

    European socialism is falling apart due to stupidity. A welfare state cannot have open borders. Now the Europeans are importung vast numbers of illiterate and dangerious moslems and giving them generious benefits. The politicians encouraging this are the radical left wing ones! I am uncertain if this is due to ignorance or they do want to tear down the structure.
    Obama seems to be a person who has stopped learning in the 1080s, and that is what makes him danherious.

    • bubba4

      Do even have a passport?

    • waltw

      As far as Germany is concerned, this is nothing new. Germany began importing labor (mainly) from Turkey in the late '50s. Germans youths were only interested in a college education / apprenticeship, so there was no common laborer pool to draw from. Years later the German government tried to get rid of them, but the courts sided with immigrants – they could never become Germans, but they could stay forever.

      Even later, with the formation of the European Union, immigrants accepted by one country of the EU are accepted by all, and travel between each of the EU countries is unrestricted – you can work in any EU country where you can find a job.

      In northern Germany where my late wife was from, a large percentage of the unskilled jobs are now held by Portuguese laborers.

      Just wanted to point out that this is nothing new.

  • Wesley69

    Good interview, Jamie. Frontpage.com has done much already to show that Obama is an Alinsky Radical – any means to an end.

    The problem is, he is president and has many people that think like him in important positions within the government. The Republicans, all of us can not take our eyes off of him and his buddies for a minute. He is more than a Socialist. He is against the idea of democratic rights and liberties. He has already said the Constitution is out of date and his actions show he has no regard for it.

    The election was a good thing, but Obama will not course-correct. His stealth approach will continue just like ACORN, once it dissolved did not disappear. It was renamed something else. The people were sweet-talked by his hope and change message. Now this country is paying the price. Being in Wright's church, Obama learned his theology well. His ant-American attitude is one thing that came through soon after the election. Now, the emperor stands without clothes. Will the people dare to laugh at him??????

    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
    Thomas Jefferson

    • bubba4

      The ghost of ACORN lives…not sure where it will pop up, but I'm sure that there will be another organization to help poor people that you can assume is ACORN and hate.

    • Jim C.

      ACORN…No-bid Halliburton is "missing" (whoops!) $2 billion of your money, but so what? Let's go after the non-profit that tries to vest and enfranchise poor people.

  • Wesley69

    Good interview, Jamie. Frontpage.com has done much already to show that Obama is an Alinsky Radical – any means to an end.

    The problem is, he is president and has many people that think like him in important positions within the government. The Republicans, all of us can not take our eyes off of him and his buddies for a minute. He is against the idea of democratic rights and liberties. He has already said the Constitution is out of date and his actions show he has no regard for it. Look at his refusal to stop illegal invasion into Arizona.

  • Wesley69

    The election was a good thing, but Obama will not course-correct. His stealth approach will continue just like ACORN, once it dissolved did not disappear. It was renamed something else. The people were sweet-talked by his hope and change message. Now this country is paying the price. Being in Wright's church, Obama learned his theology well. His ant-American attitude is one thing that came through soon after the election. Now, the emperor stands without clothes. Will the people dare to laugh at him??????

    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
    Thomas Jefferson

  • 080

    Obama's path to the presidency was paved by our president Lyndon B. Johnson. It was during 1964-1968 that the War on Poverty was being waged. Obama wasn't around at the time but his mentor Saul Alinsky was. One component of the Johnson's war was community organizing. Who now remembers the riots that took place in America's cities during those years. If anyone is curious I would recommend two books. One is by the historian Irwin Unger entitled the best of intentions. Another book would be by Thomas DiLorenzo entitled Destroying Democracy.

  • http://apcnational.wordpress.com/ Mike in VA

    "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency."

    One can't help but agree with that observation.

    When Obama's supporters speak of "transforming" America, what they are talking about is destroying the Founding Principle that our great nation is built upon, and that principle is for Man to be free, rights and responsibilities must emanate from the Individual. What Obama, et al, are trying to create is a society where rights and responsibilities emanate from the State, not the Individual. The proof is in the individual mandate imposed within the Democrats' government-mandated healthcare protection racket, which institutionalizes the notion that rights and responsibilities emanate from the State. If Americans don't want to see the United States transformed into a socialist state, they must refuse to accept and internalize the collectivist notion that rights and responsibilities emanate from the State instead of themselves.

    • azdebi

      Well said! Thanks for your refreshing clarity! "Hell No…We Won't Go!"

  • bubba4

    Sure Wesley….Jesus didn't say it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven….he said if you don't have a gun when I come back I won't know who to save….YEE HAW!!!

  • Jim C.

    All of you who claim Obama is a "radical:" can you explain, rationally, what policies and actions of Obama's are "radical?" Here is a guy who continues Bush's foreign policy, appointed Milton Freidman acolyte advisors who would not be out of place in Reagan's cabinet, has essentially resurrected Nixon's health care plan; whose suporters largely stayed home this election out of "protest," and whom all the liberal pundits accuse of caving to Republicans at every turn. But you guys call him "radical," I guess, because he's half-black and has a funny name. (I mean, let's face it–you aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, either).

    Could it be, given these huge differences in points of view between left and right, that Obama is–gasp–a moderate?

  • scum

    The 'stealth' strategy reminds one of the strategy of the right in recent years: If you can't beat the regulatory agencies, run one (and destroy it from within…)

  • meg

    Does any good thing come from Chicago? Oh yeah….Deep dish pizza

  • http://mailcartofficesupplies.com/office_store/Calendars.html Alysha Darga

    Very effectively set.