Remembering Israel’s Victims of Terror

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Beit Lid junction is nearly a countryside location on the road between Netanya and Hadera. It has a small kiosk where soldiers commonly swarm inside and out at the early hours of the day, waiting for transportation to their military bases. This location is unfortunately very close to Palestinian cities, known as anthills of terrorist activity.

On January 22, 1995, on a leisurely Sunday morning, when soldiers gathered around the bus station and the kiosk, a Palestinian terrorist, disguised as an Israeli soldier, loaded with at least a ten kilogram belt bomb, coldly positioned himself as close as possible to a large group of soldiers and activated the bomb button. Then the second terrorist also disguised as an Israeli soldier, calmly waited until rescuers rushed to help the first casualties before activating his bomb.  “The carnage was indescribable,” wrote Mr. Lipkin Shahak, former chief of Staff in Israel, who gave his account of this event on the cover of the book.

FP: Can you tell us a bit about what the families shared with you?

Zrihen-Dvir: Besides the pain and tears, I was confronted by a strange phenomenon: A significant fraction of the parents of the victims harbored a very unusual sense of guilt. To me, it seemed that unbeknownst to them, they were flagellating their own moral fiber – I even heard a few sentences such as: we snatched their landwe occupy their territories… what can anyone expect in these circumstances? That presumption and the countervailing standpoints of others is a clarification of the amplifying fissure existing amongst Israelis: There are those who believe in their rights to their ancestral land, and others, from the extreme political left stream, who openly believe in the so-called “occupation” and are ready to compromise to the extent of being completely swallowed up by Palestinians.

I didn’t want to trigger an argument nor elaborate on any stance, as my book isn’t meant to cover the territorial/political aspect of the conflict. It was written merely to recognize the humanitarian side of things.

Some parents described their intimate feelings for their departed children and their relationships with them. They also touched on the impact that this tragedy has had on their lives – a few didn’t even survive it. However, there were parents who, for one reason or another, reluctantly refused to be interviewed and I clearly understood their taking this stance.

Generally, a remarkable strength and determination emanated from them, regardless of the circumstances they suffered.

FP: You state that there are some “wrong conceptions” that “remain as true.” Explain what you mean and why, in your view, justice been buried.

Zrihen-Dvir: There was an underlying territorial conflict, intentionally triggered by the Arab world and their supporters, the British. But that had long since been surpassed by a useless hatred engendered by wrong conceptions and religious boundaries. Young, gullible minds were brainwashed by those who never truly cared for the welfare of their own people (Palestinians). These young Palestinian people had been blatantly used by cynical leaders whose main aims were power, money and greed. Justice has long been buried by misleading information and false evidences, tremendously supported by conniving media channels.

FP: What is the overall message you want to come through this book?

Zrihen-Dvir: This book isn’t meant to sift through the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but to display the tremendous gap existing between two mindsets: We have for instance, a Palestinian/Muslim mother who would urge her child to kill as many kufars (infidels) as possible and be killed, with the incredible promise of Heaven and 72 virgins awaiting him as a reward. On the opposite side of the coin, there is a Jewish mother who would be ready to give her life and anything else she owns in order to protect her children’s lives. Muslim religious conceptions teach and praise the love of death, while Jews spread the love of life. Freedom and Progress are differently assessed by Muslims, while Jews are openly standing for them.

From the text, involving confrontations and exchanges between Jews and Palestinians, we reach a conclusion that takes cognizance of today’s defying threats against the free world.

To me it is anyway, my modest contribution to this very odd and cherished country called Israel and to its restless fighters.

FP: Therese Zrihen-Dvir, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.

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  • muchiboy

    "There was an underlying territorial conflict, intentionally triggered by the Arab world and their supporters, the British."

    Some,including yours truly,might say that tens of thousands of European Jews fleeing the Holocaust triggered the conflict.

    " But that had long since been surpassed by a useless hatred engendered by wrong conceptions and religious boundaries. Young, gullible minds were brainwashed by those who never truly cared for the welfare of their own people (Palestinians)."

    To be fair,this applies to both parties.Otherwise,this leads to victimization and eventually demonization of one or the other people.

    "A significant fraction of the parents of the victims harbored a very unusual sense of guilt. To me, it seemed that unbeknownst to them, they were flagellating their own moral fiber – I even heard a few sentences such as: we snatched their land… we occupy their territories… what can anyone expect in these circumstances?"

    Such sentiments and doubts are truly human and show our human concerns with justice,fairness and conscience.I have no doubt that similar sentiments may be found among the parents of Palestinian children killed in the conflict by IDF members.

    "We have for instance, a Palestinian/Muslim mother who would urge her child to kill as many kufars (infidels) as possible and be killed, with the incredible promise of Heaven and 72 virgins awaiting him as a reward."

    Let us be fair,while not dignifying the terror of the suicide bomber.The targets of the suicide bombers are first and foremost occupiers of Palestinian lands,guilty of colonization ,and worse,ethnic cleansing.In this case,many of the victims were soldiers.

    "On the opposite side of the coin, there is a Jewish mother who would be ready to give her life and anything else she owns in order to protect her children’s lives."

    Let's not forget that these Israeli mothers are also willing to sacrifice their young sons and daughters in the IDF.
    muchiboy

    • Dagronfly

      Muchiboy,
      If you go a little deeper into the territorial conflict, you'll understand better that no land has been taken by Israelis… they were willing to live together with palestiniens… palestiniens supported by the arab world refused and initiated wars… land was conquered… you need to ask yourself honestly if there is any corner on this planet that hasn't been conquered once by the strongest? American and Canada belong to who? to Canadian and americains or to the indians who lived there first… Australia… and the list is tremendously long… arab world has been conquered by Islamics…. why don't you ask these countries to restore the land to their first owners?
      It must be very interesting to read this book if as stated it doesn't cover the political side of it.
      Dragonfly

    • stern

      Dragonfly, it's impossible to reason with muchiboy. I've tried it and failed. As you can see from his post, he insists on his own anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic interpretation rather than any actual evidence. If he actually did do any real study of the situation, he would discover how the Palestinians idolize their "martyrs", he would read about the Palestinian mothers who willingly give up their children to Jihad, he would know that the Palestinians name their schools, public squares, summer caps and even football teams after murderers. If he read some real history, rather than the biased garbage he favours, he would know that the Arab world has always been intent on destroying any Jewish presence in "their" land, while, in contrast, the Jews have always been prepared to share the land. Nope, Dragonfly, muchiboy is a lost cause.

    • MixMChess

      "Some,including yours truly,might say that tens of thousands of European Jews fleeing the Holocaust triggered the conflict."

      You would say that because you're an idiot. Israel was created DESPITE the Holocaust, not IN SPITE of it. Recall, modern Zionism was established at the end of the 19th century, well before the Holocaust and before the rise of Nazism. Israel was well on its way to becoming a state up through the 1930's just before the breakout of WWII. You seriously need to pick up a history book and actually learn facts before making stupid comments.

      • MixMChess

        "The targets of the suicide bombers are first and foremost occupiers of Palestinian lands,guilty of colonization ,and worse,ethnic cleansing.In this case,many of the victims were soldiers."

        You are a liar Ron Grant. Israel is not guilty of colonization or ethnic cleansing. You have admitted to this in the past yet you continue the lie. Most of the Israeli victims of Palestinian Terror are CIVILIANS, not soldiers. In fact, Palestinians specifically target unarmed women and children. The Nahariya/Avivim School Bus Attack in 1970 saw Palestinians intentionally murder 9 Israeli Children when they opened fire on a SCHOOL BUS. In 1974 Palestinians murdered another 9 children in Kiryat Shmona. In 1974 in Ma'alot Palestinians executed 24 Israeli children. Need I really go on?

        "Let's not forget that these Israeli mothers are also willing to sacrifice their young sons and daughters in the IDF."

        Nope, Jewish mothers send their children to the army to PROTECT Israel from terrorism and murder (as described above). Palestinian mothers send their children to MURDER Israelis.

    • MixMChess

      "To be fair,this applies to both parties.Otherwise,this leads to victimization and eventually demonization of one or the other people."

      Wrong again Ron Grant. Israeli children are taught to make peace with and respect Palestinians. Whereas Palestinian children are taught to hate Israelis and to murder them. Just look at their television!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZEGsnWZKh8

      There is good reason to demonize the Palestinians. They are a bloodthirsty terrorist culture, no different than the Nazis. It is as plain as that. If you can't see that then either you are a complete moron (which I have suspected for some time) or a liar (which is probably hitting it on the nose).

      "I have no doubt that similar sentiments may be found among the parents of Palestinian children killed in the conflict by IDF members."

      Nope, Palestinian parents gleefully inculcate their own children with hate, implore them to be martyrs, and murder them for the sake of the so-called Palestinian cause. Unfortunately Palestinians hate Israel more than they love their own children.

      For example, on March 15, 2004, "Israeli security forces caught an 11-year-old boy attempting to smuggle a bomb through a roadblock. The boy was promised a large sum of money by terrorists in Nablus if he delivered a bag containing a bomb stuffed with bolts to a woman on the other side of the checkpoint. If the boy was stopped and searched, the terrorists who sent him planned to use a cell phone to immediately detonate the 15 to 22 pounds of explosives he was carrying, murdering nearby soldiers as well as the boy." A week later, "on March 24, 2004, a 14-year-old Palestinian child was found to be carrying explosives when attempting to pass through an Israeli army checkpoint" in the W. Bank.

      According to a Palestinian newspaper, 79-80% of children told pollsters they were willing to be Shahids (Martyr). How does it feel to be wrong all the time Ron Grant?

      • Dagronfly

        Well, lets say that at least for several years, this scenario worked well and the gullible western world believed that palestinians were genuinely partners for peace – the Oslo agreement and Arafat granted Nobel prize for peace… what a joke? Only few weeks after his landing in Israel, israelies were dying everywhere… babies turned into living torch in their craddle… not to mention innocents passers-by who found their death because an unsane palestinian thought that by killings jews he will get a reward : paradise and 72 virgins… not to mention the thousands of dollars showered on his family by arab nations…
        See what is happening today to countries like Sweden who gave shelter to muslims… are they there too seeking to retrieve occupied territories, or simply to install Islam and its charia there? The entire European continent is gangrened of them…
        And why palestinians would wish for peace while they live on the huge amounts of money bestowed on them? The western world needs to wake up from this dreadful lethargy…

    • Spirit_Of_1683

      Ho hum, Hitlers previously unknown great grandson has turned up here in the guise of Naziboy.

      Go and get a life, bigoted Jew-hating pile of trash.

    • ziontruth

      "Some,including yours truly,might say that tens of thousands of European Jews fleeing the Holocaust triggered the conflict."

      If only. In reality, the British had unjustly closed the gates of the one and only land that actually belongs to the Jews, in order to quell a potential Arab revolt while they were busy with the world war. They were the adversaries of Nazi Germany in the battlefield, but their closest accomplices with regard to the fate of the Jewish people.

      "To be fair,this applies to both parties.Otherwise,this leads to victimization and eventually demonization of one or the other people."

      Which you would know absolutely nothing about, of course. You, who tear the ancient (3,000 years old) connection of the Jewish people to Palestine to shreds by adopting the fraudulent Phakestinian narrative and revise history in a most blatant fashion in calling Zionism a White European Settler Colonialism, would know nothing of demonizing people. Of course not.

      "Such sentiments and doubts are truly human and show our human concerns with justice,fairness and conscience."

      No, they're the self-flagellating, beaten wife's naivete that all but died among the Israeli Jewish public in the October 2000 Intifada (when the Arabs not only of the post-1967 terroritories, but also of the pre-1967 ones, rioted, which could no longer be explained by the "Occupation").

      "I have no doubt that similar sentiments may be found among the parents of Palestinian children killed in the conflict by IDF members."

      I have no doubt that they are nowhere to be found among them. The rich and the poor among them, the educated and uneducated alike, hold to the same views as those of decades ago. The "right of return" is their yearning as before, precluding any chance of permanent cessation of warfare.

      "The targets of the suicide bombers are first and foremost occupiers of Palestinian lands,guilty of colonization ,and worse,ethnic cleansing."

      The targets of the Jewish Army (as it will, HaShem willing, be called in the future) are first and foremost occupiers of Palestinian (=Jewish, since the Jews are the indigenous of Palestine) lands, guilty of colonization, and worse, ethnic cleansing.

      "Let's not forget that these Israeli mothers are also willing to sacrifice their young sons and daughters in the IDF."

      But they do not raise them on the heritage of suicide-murder. Because, as one of the Taliban honchos said, "You [non-Muslims] love life and Pepsi-Cola, we [Muslims] love death."

      Victory over this worldwide menace will come only when the free states are no longer under the sway of moral equivalators like you.

    • Ariella

      Muchiboy's comment is sickening in the extreme, for its anti-semitism and lack of any type of human compassion. I keep thinking of his name as "Munich-boy", as in the infamous terrorist murder of Israeli athletes, and boy as per his mindset. I have no doubt that he would love to be among the bloodies murderers of Jews and indeed all Westerners, if he could talk himself out of his cowardice.

  • sebyandrew

    First and foremost the Israelis reside in the land area once called Palestine, guilty of being jewish and having the unmitigated audacity to defend themselves. So we won't dignify the terror of the suicide bomber but we will justify it. Let's not forget that the Israelis give their lives in self-defence while the muslims tend to intentionally target civilians in their ultimate intention to cleanse the land of non-muslims. Are they equivalent? When you start a war against a peaceful neighbor you bear responsibility for the consequences, incl. civilian deaths. When it is in your power to assimilate your own people, in this case the arabs that are being used as a shield and an excuse for religion-based violence and hatred you create victims and demonization of your own. THIS isn't fair. They are reaping what they have sown.

    • Dagronfly

      And what us Palestine exactly? You need to learn a little bite of history… Palestine was Israel- the promised land of the Jews… Romain invaded Israel, destoyed its temple and took the jews who didn't fled as slaves… and in their thirst to erase all existence of Jews in this land, they changed the name into Palestine…
      Someone need really to read the promised land history to better comprehend…
      Good advice to follow,
      Dragonfly

  • Dagronfly

    Sorry pls read what is Palestine..Romans…

  • ze-ev ben jehudah

    Reading Dragonfly I don't have to comment Mr Dragonfly said it short but
    powerful for me, thanks.

    • Dagronfly

      Hello Jehuda,
      Just a very short reminder… and those djihadists aiming at destroying the western world…screaming Allah U'Akbar…what are they fightinh for? Occupied territories? or isn't their real target to invade the entire world and turn it into islamic world with Charia law…
      We don't swallow their many lies anymore… we've seen enough of their horrifying acts any where, to clasp that Israel and the supposed occupied territories aren't their genuine target…It's the entire free world that they want using their takya (subterfuge) in order to accomplish their holy mission to islmize the free world.

  • muchiboy

    "Muchiboy's comment is sickening in the extreme, for its anti-semitism and lack of any type of human compassion. I keep thinking of his name as "Munich-boy", as in the infamous terrorist murder of Israeli athletes, and boy as per his mindset. I have no doubt that he would love to be among the bloodies murderers of Jews and indeed all Westerners, if he could talk himself out of his cowardice"

    Ariella,your comments and accusations might have more merit if my sentiments and opinions were not shared by many others of good intentions,superior morality,excellent qualifications and exceptional experience.Numerous world class and recognized NGOs and Human Rights organizations hold similar critical views on Israel and Israeli policies.You cannot dismiss so readily legitimate criticisms of your beloved Zionist entity.You cannot explain away with any legitimacy the criticisms of Israel by a small but determined cadre of fellow Jews,try as you may.muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      Ariella, your comments do have merit. Ron Grant's (aka muchiboy) opinions are only shared by extremist Neo-Nazis, Islam-facists, Anti-semites and nihilists. Ron Grant has a strong lust for Jewish blood. Pretty scary considering Ron Grant is a corrections officer?

  • muchiboy

    "Ron Grant has a strong lust for Jewish blood. Pretty scary considering Ron Grant is a corrections officer?"

    I haved worked in a correctional setting for many years and I have to say it is throughly professional.A difficult,sometimes seemingly impossible job done well,albeit with some failures,that we learn from.Our mission,our staff,our policies are second to none worldwide.Professionalism demands leaving any baggage at the prison gates.Respect in a prison is essential for good morale and safety and applies to both staff and inmates.Myself,I am an advocate for our inmate/clients regardless of race,religion,culture or crime.muchiboy

    • Spirit_Of_1683

      I suppose you would have described Auschwitz and Maidanek as a 'correctional setting' had you been around in 1942, and assuring hapless Jews that the grilles were for pouring bubble bath into the showers wouldn't you, Jew-hating Nazi s*d.

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