Tutu’s Crusade Against Israel

At first blush, the suggestion that a Nobel Peace Prize winner would have anything in common with a pack of unabashed, poison-tongued Jew-haters seems preposterous. But Desmond Tutu, the former archbishop of Cape Town, South Africa, who in 1984 won the coveted Nobel award for his campaign against apartheid in that country, is today one of the most celebrated supporters of the “Divest from Israel” movement. Particularly widespread on university campuses across America, this movement routinely offers a high-visibility propaganda forum for some of the most rabid, combative anti-Semites of our time.

At its heart, the campus divestment movement aims to cripple Israel’s economy by compelling universities to withdraw whatever funds they may have invested in Israeli-based or -affiliated corporations. These efforts are founded on the premise that Israel is guilty of practicing apartheid and ethnic cleansing against the Palestinian people. According to the divestment movement’s leaders, the human rights violations perpetrated by Israel are on par with those of the former apartheid regime in Desmond Tutu’s South Africa; many critics go so far as to liken modern Israel to Nazi Germany. When the Associated Students of UC Berkeley recently expressed their wish to have the university divest its money from Israel, Tutu praised their “principled stand” against the “injustice of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land and violation of Palestinian human rights.” “[I]t is always an inspiration when young people lead the way and speak truth to power,” said Tutu.

The philosophy underlying the divestment movement has been displayed in stark relief recently at a number of University of California campuses, where Muslim student groups sponsored events under the banner of “Israeli Apartheid Week: A Call to Boycott, Divest, and Sanction Israel.” At a Muslim Students Association (MSA) event at UC San Diego, for instance, one MSA member explicitly affirmed that she supported Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah‘s assertion that “if Jews all gather in Israel, it will save us [jihadists] the trouble of going after them worldwide.” Meanwhile, UC Irvine’s Muslim Student Union promoted its own “Israeli Apartheid Week” festivities by featuring, as guest speakers, such luminaries as Norman Finkelstein (who asserts  that the Holocaust has been exaggerated and exploited by Jews to justify Israeli human-rights violations and crimes against humanity); Hedy Epstein (who contends that the only “lesson” Jews “learned from the Holocaust” was how to “become the persecutors” of vulnerable people like the Palestinians); Hatem Bazian (who, at an American Muslim Alliance conference promoting the creation of an Islamic State of Palestine, approvingly quoted a hadith calling on Muslims to “come and kill” the Jews); Alison Weir (who characterizes the Israeli-Arab conflict as nothing more complex than a battle between “the brutalizer and the brutalized”); and Amir Abdel Malik-Ali (an open supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah who has warned that he and his fellow Muslims “will fight” the Jews “until we are either martyred or until we are victorious”). (Note: the Alison Weir referred to here is not to be confused with the British historian and author Alison Weir)

Such are the worldviews and sentiments of the leading lights in today’s “Divest from Israel” movement. By no means, however, is it surprising that Nobel Peace Prize winner Desmond Tutu would support such bellicose rhetoric, given his own long history of condemning and smearing Israel and the Jews. Noting that divestment campaigns helped bring about the end of apartheid in South Africa, a development he calls “one of the crowning accomplishments of the past century,” Tutu is delighted that a “similar movement” now aims to put “an end to the Israeli occupation” in the Middle East. Notably, Tutu makes no call for divestment from any other Middle Eastern nation – though the political oppression, human rights abuses, and barbaric atrocities characterizing life throughout much of that region dwarf anything that the Palestinians have ever suffered in Israel, to which Tutu refers as America’s “client state.”

Tutu informs us that his heart breaks whenever he sees “the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks,” and he explains that their evident “suffering” evokes memories of what South African blacks once experienced “when young white police officers prevented us from moving about.” Asserting that “Israel is like Hitler and apartheid,” Tutu has urged Americans to oppose Israeli “injustices” as fervently as they once opposed Nazism and South Africa’s system of racial separation. Putting his contempt for the Jewish state in still fuller context, he once said: “The [South African] apartheid government was very powerful, but today it no longer exists. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Milosevic, and Idi Amin were all powerful, but in the end they bit the dust.”

In an October 2007 op-ed piece, Tutu lamented that because of unnecessarily restrictive Israeli policies, the Palestinian people “cannot move freely from one place to another”; that “a wall separates them from their families and from their incomes”; and that “they are arbitrarily demeaned at checkpoints and unnecessarily beleaguered by capricious applications of bureaucratic red tape.” These things, said Tutu, were reminiscent of “the yoke of oppression that was once our burden in South Africa.” Absent from his lamentations was any recognition that Israel’s checkpoints and security barrier had been established in direct response to the Palestinians’ relentless campaign of genocidal terrorism. Instead, Tutu reminded his readers that “God’s dream begins with this mutual recognition – we are not strangers, we are kin.” But there again, he had nothing to say about the wholesale rejection of so-called “kinship” by Hamas, the terrorist group whose founding charter explicitly calls jihad “an individual duty [that is] binding on every Muslim man and woman,” while it condemns “the Nazism of the Jews” and calls for their extermination.

Tutu’s morally inverted worldview is not confined solely to matters involving Israel. In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, for instance, he described America’s retaliatory military campaign (against the Taliban and al-Qaeda) as an “utterly reprehensible” exercise in “vengeance” rather than justice. He explained that the hijackers had been “willing to pilot a plane and go to their deaths” because they were making a desperate plea for relief from the “poverty, hunger, and disease” that plagued the people of their homelands. Condemning America’s greed and self-absorption, Tutu suggested that “a minute fraction of [U.S.] defense budgets would ensure that God’s children everywhere would have clean water, enough to eat, a decent home, a proper education, and accessible and affordable health care.” The terrorists, in other words, were trying to strike a blow for charity and social justice, not Islamic jihad.

While Tutu has been relentless in ridiculing Israel and the United States, he has been far more forgiving of Winnie Mandela, South Africa’s so-called “Mother of the Nation,” whom the former archbishop professes to love “very deeply.” Prominent in the Soviet-sponsored African National Congress (ANC), which was closely aligned with the South African Communist Party, Mrs. Mandela used her notorious bodyguards in a protracted reign of terror, torture, and murder during the 1980s. The ANC committed innumerable atrocities in the name of liberation, prompting a 1988 Pentagon Report to list it as one of the world’s “more notorious terrorist groups.” Many ANC victims were physically pummeled and brutalized to death – some of them on the direct orders of Mrs. Mandela. Among the ANC’s preferred methods of torturing suspected political opponents was “necklacing” – a barbaric practice where automobile tires were tied around the necks of victims, filled with gasoline and lit on fire. It is estimated that some 1,000 people were set ablaze in this manner. “With tires and matches we will liberate this country,” crowed the celebrated “Mother” of Tutu’s nation.

To recap: Desmond Tutu “loves” Winnie Mandela “deeply”; he blames the United States for provoking the 9/11 attacks; and he supports worldwide divestment from a purportedly “Nazi”-like nation that gives its Arab citizens more rights and freedoms than they would be able to enjoy anywhere in the Arab world. These views prove conclusively that honorific titles and prestigious awards do not necessarily correlate with sound moral judgment in their recipients.

  • BS1977

    Desmond Tutu is a dim bulb. If you want to see apartheid, go to Saudi Arabia or Iran….no churches, no synagogues, no Buddhist temples….no infidels, no mixing, no western women permitted!!! The left has this double standard….the rest is all propaganda, lies, lies and more lies.

    • William Smart

      I'll take the word of someone who lived under apartheid over almost anyone else.

      And, while there are a few ex-South Africans living in Israel who deny the connection, the overwhelming majority of them see the Israeli system as either as bad, or indeed worse.

      After all, South Africa never had whites-only roads, nor did it operate military rule over much of its population for 40 (indeed, 62) years.

      • Stephen D.

        You'll take his word for it. Brilliant! What of the charges? Arabs have more Liberties in Israel than any other Arab country. T or F? Tutu Loves Winnie the Buthcher. T or F? The 9/11 hijackers were merely a plea for relief from poverty, hunger, and disease. You believe this? Because he lived in S. Africa! THAT is sound judgement. The facts cannot matter to you. You're stupidity is showing again William and it ain't pretty.

      • bostonian

        Even if the word isopen lie. I just wonder why are they still in Israel if it so bed. How about if they move back to wonderfull South Africa now or Saudi Arabia. Billy you always disapoint me with your logic

      • Stern

        smart – dumb again. I grew up in South Africa and left almost 30 years ago because of the Apartheid system. So – you're right, the country didn't "operate military rule" over much of its population. Instead, it operated a brutal police state over much of its population for almost 50 years. Blacks, so-called "Coloureds" (mixed race) and Indians (people whose ancestors came from India) could not vote and were not allowed to work or live among whites, were prohibited from taking certain jobs and more. In contrast, Israeli Arabs have complete freedom of movement and association, can live and work anywhere, can work anywhere and even serve in the Israeli cabinet. That, smart, is not apartheid. As for the Palestinians, they are not Israeli citizens. They get to vote in their own elections (when their leaders allow elections) and are pretty much under the harsh thumb of some of the world's most horrific leaders. Did you know, for example, that just this week, the Hamas "government" of Gaza demolished a bunch of homes belonging to their people, because they were on "state land"? Bet you didn't. And bet that if Israel did the same, you'd be screaming your head off. Hypocrite.

      • ajnn

        There are no 'separate' roads in Israel. This is one wacky lie.

      • Josh Brewster

        Well, aren't you a schmuck, William? And Arabs in Israel's gov't indicate what? Arabs on Israel's supreme court indicate what? Palestinians are obligated to negotiate the final status of the land. They never do. They buy bomb belts for their children. You're a total asshole.

      • Max

        What would you do if there was this consistant hatred and idiology to wipe you off the face of the earth???

    • ur sister

      so according to u …there s no Apartheid in israel…what do u call /the fact that Palestinian arabs cant get their names in the Deeds , office deeds when buying houses , if their kids get married they do alterations to their houses ..guess what it s illegal…and the israeli army buldozer the homes get land , give to Ashkenaze new hungry eastern europeean immigrants whose blood got nothing to do with semites …and kik Palestinians out of their land..WHAT DO UCALL THIS ACT U DUMB URSELF … BAHAMaS CRUISE LINErS…WE CALL IT APARTHEID and in Saudy arabia when u as a pale face white go there u get the best job and the best dough so …what do u call this …u willy billie..i call it imperialism

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/GaryRumain Gary Rumain

    What a tool!

    • Fed Up

      True, but at least he's honest enough to use his own name. If only you were – you are not Gary Rumain, you dickless little cocksucker.

  • http://ideas-to-income.com Ideasto Income

    Nice propaganda!

  • ze-ev ben jehudah

    Well the antisemitic smears come from an age old source of hate.
    They still think that the Jews crusified Jesus,most have forgotten
    that Jesus was a very religious Jew himself and an herformer of
    his own people he never wanted to start a new religion.

  • jsstag

    Important point of clarification: Berkeley Adminstrators didn't decide to divest from Israel. A student governement group passed a non-binding resolution to that effect and the student president vetoed the resoultion. Subsequent attempts to override the veto or to pass the resolution in different forms failed. This was a victory for pro-Israeli students and their supporters on that troubled campus. The UCs are not divesting from Israel–at least not yet–and there are people working very hard to keep it that way.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Tommo2 Tommo2

    Tutu has obviously swallowed the relentless anti-Jew propaganda coming mainly from Palestine. Tutu could have done so much good by spreading the Christian message on campus but instead took the anti-Israeli tack aligning himself with naive student politics. Students, with their very limited knowledge of world affairs, fall in line with the biggest mouth on campus – usually a Muslim activist. You see them everywhere wearing the yashmak which is always a sign of their affiliations.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Tommo2 Tommo2

    Tutu said “The [South African] apartheid government was very powerful, but today it no longer exists."
    The White governments of both South Africa and Rhodesia were bought down by world pressure from Marxists and the liberal left who funded and armed the ANC. Both countries could not withstand growing international pressures, trade and sporting sanctions and fighting a war on several fronts. Now that the left has had its way and cleansed Africa of white people, their attention is focused on Israel. Well, they say, we destroyed white rule in Africa so the same tactics should work for Israel. The fact that white rule has been replaced by black despots who fill their pockets with aid money from the west and many of their people are starving, beaten or murdered on a daily basis doesn't seem to worry them.

  • Andres de Alamaya

    To begin with, Apartheid is as natural as breathing and eating and creating relationships and avoiding dangerous foods and people. Civilized people practice it every day. We distance ourselves from rude, smelly, undisciplined and dangerous people. When we convict a murderer we put him in jail APART from civilized society. Apartheid in South Africa came not into being because of a nastiness in the character of the whites. It came into being for self preservation in a sea of primitive, plundering, murdering creatures who are now in charge and plunder and murder each other as well as the hapless whites who foolishly remained in that stinkhole. Israel could be faulted for the lack of Apartheid which common sense would have them practice. Go to Israel and count the number of mosques used by Muslims, count the number of Muslim parliamentarians that Israeli Democracy has elected. There are no synagogues nor churches in any Muslim lands and if America wakes up, it will begin to lean heavily on enemies of America such as the foreign funded MSA. As for Tutu, well, men of the cloth have a right to be a little cuckoo.

    • Toma

      Good idea,lets seperate ourselves from nasty,vulgar,dimwitted and mean spirited failures like you.And trust me, that would not be a decision made on the basis of skin color.How unbelievably repulsive people can be never ceases to amaze me.

    • BS1977

      Now it's all backwards….now whites cannot live in Zimbabwe and in most areas of South Africa (one of the highest crime rates on earth) due to the anti white racism, the tribalism, shocking violence, theivery and brutality. Rhodesia, once one of Africa's most prosperous nations, now, as Zimbabwe, is ruled over by a lunatic thug, Mugabe. Most of the whites had to flee…losing their farms which som

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/The_Inquisitor The_Inquisitor

    "At first blush, the suggestion that a Nobel Peace Prize winner would have anything in common with a pack of unabashed, poison-tongued Jew-haters seems preposterous."

    Where have you been? I would be surprised at anything else.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hopetotellyou hopetotellyou

    What church is TuTu from?
    He's archbishop of some church.
    Which?
    I surely hope it is not Church of England
    or Episcopalian.

    • Stern

      I'm pretty sure it's CofE. Sorry!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/bpaolucci bpaolucci

    Boy is this a good one. Can I call for campus' to not accept money from Arab nations because they deny women equal rights, civil rights, virtually any rights and stone them?

    And as to Tutu being a Nobel prize winner, well, so what, that Obama won for merely showing up tells you all you need to know about that so called coveted prize. It's not coveted anymore. Nobel is turning over in his grave these days.

  • AntiFascist18

    Tutu and Obama – Poster Children for the Return of Jefferson Davis and the Confederacy.

    Don't forget Desmond, to grovel to your massa Kleagle Byrd, just as little Barry Monkey does.

  • Marty

    Surely tutu would quickly condemn saudi arabia for building separate roads to be used by muslims and non-muslims. Oh, he would also condemn muslims slaughtering Christians in Sudan. Come to think of it, this moral hypocrite and anti-semite would surely want to condemn the iranian government for threatening the extermination of a sovereign state. Perhaps he'd also want to condemn the honor killings, persecution and murder of religious minorities, and theocratic tyrannies that flourish in the islamic world. This will all occur at any moment. Just you see.

  • Mike

    Desmond Tutu is a kind of Utopian pacifist. He exudes the character of a clown at times.
    Even a three year old knows that flying planes into building is wrong; but a so called intellectual will try to justify the act by arguing moral equivalence.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/swathdiver swathdiver

    Tutu is a Communist and therefore doing Satan's work. This scumbag is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a charlatan whose mission is to separate as many people from God as he can.

  • USMCSniper

    Want to see first hand what niggers running a society do to a
    country? Compare South Africa before apartheid and now. South
    Africa's Gross Domestic Product (GDP) went down an alarming
    16% from 1980 to 2000. GDP Per Capita in 1973 was ranked at #30
    in the world. It is now ranked at #80, below countries like
    Botswana, American Samoa and Estonia. AIDS, which was not a
    major problem before the end of apartheid, is now an out-of-
    control epidemic: at least 21% of adults (1 in 5) are HIV
    positive, and 31% of pregnant sows have AIDS. Whereas SA used
    to be a relatively safe nation, whites now have to live in
    houses that resemble military compounds. The armed bodyguard and
    private security businesses are booming. Even the strictest
    security measures are no guarantee that you won't be killed,
    assaulted and maimed, robbed, or raped by a wild, AIDS-infested roving gangs of black thugs. Look real long and hard at South Africa, America and Europe.
    Take heed…because this may be your future.

    • Toma

      Yes you motherfucking racist piece of low life trash,finally stomp humping your smelly brother and come out of that stinking closet of yours.Its trash like you that needs their skin color, in order to give their meaningless, angry and easily forgotten existence a nugget of worth.Albeit undeserved worth.Nigger anyone?Did anyody hear that?Anbody?

      • USMCSniper

        Cake wawk fah meh, sho' meh dah shiffawl, tell meh dat it awl beh dah white man fault dat so many youse blacks beez such violent criminals. Visit any major American city with a laege black population and one would find that the overwhelmingly law-abiding members of the black community are living in constant fear of robbery, assault and murder. In fact, 52 percent of U.S. homicides are committed by blacks, 49 percent of homicide victims are black and 93 percent of them were murdered by fellow blacks. The level of crime in black communities is the result of government's failure to perform its most basic function, namely the protection of its citizens. The level of criminal activity not only puts residents in physical jeopardy but drains the treasury.

        • Toma

          You are so nasty that I feel like taking a shower.No need to respond.Its just some more vermin.

          • USMCSniper

            Go ahead and have fun with your girlfriend "Lady Five Fingers" By the way that information about the black community is from Dr Walter Williams, a Black Professor at Mason University.

    • http://karmafishies.blogspot.com/ Karmafish

      Dude, this kind of outright racism is just not right. Just as we don't like it when those on the left spit racist hatred toward Israelis or Jews, so right-wing racial hatred toward black people is equally… I was going to say "egrigious," but I think I prefer F***ED UP.

      • USMCSniper

        Can't tell the truth about Black people anymore? Is that why Chicago wants to bring in the National Guard to quell the violence and mayhem in South Chicago by Black thugs? Racism is affirmative action and set asides based on race. Racism is a moratorium on the execution of convicted Black murderers in Maryland. There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on niggers, honky crackers, kikes, gooks, wops, or greasers; they are all equally worthless!

        • Fed Up

          Your language exposes you, and I can prove it. Do you decry men with the same ease that you do blacks? Because no matter how many statistics you can dredge up & twist around to pretend that someone's skin color makes them criminally inferior, I can point out that the overwhelming bulk of crime is committed by men – far more disproportionately to women than any black-white ratio. Do you ever point this out, & come up with nasty words that pertain just to men? I'm betting not.

          Racism is using filthy words for people instead of just telling the facts, racism is cherry-picking facts to back up the foul language, racism is attributing things to mere skin color instead of all the factors involved.

          • USMCSniper

            Oh my… a politically correct man hating feminist with liberal white guilt. Hmmm…. seems like you cannot deal with facts. Here is something for you to chew on. The black thug Rodney King fought with police after being arrested and got a mild ass-kicking. The Blacks in Watts rioted with the race baiters like Jesse jackson, Maxine Waters, etc.,.. edging them on and dragged innocent white women and men from cars on the street and assaulted them- over 50 whites and and 5 Koreans killed and over 250 whites wounded from assaults and a 100 million dollars damage. LAPD did nothing but watch the Blacks destroy, burn, loot and run amok. No apologies form anyone in the Black community only a comment from the racist tribalist Maxine Waters that Whites have to understand our rage and live with it. You are too stupid to even suspect you are stupid.

  • Lionel

    Looked at another way, can we name any blacks in the U.S., Europe, Africa, or anywhere else on planet Earth, that have ever clearly defended Israel? Even while the Arabs sent missiles, martyrs, and suicidal mothers into Israel, have any spoken out? Even MLK, another Peace Prize winner, was only able to see "the promised land" for his own race, not for the Jews who marched alongside him and worked with him to help him gain influence. Is it irony or pure stupidity that caused so many Jewish intellects to support civil rights for blacks when they never offered appreciation for the effort? How many blacks spoke out against Farrahkan's "Call" to Islamicize its blacks and war against what he called a "gutter religion," Judaism? If Tutu's government wants to find more gold and diamonds to support his racist regime, he should start looking in pawn shops, where many sellers will be dumping those glittery symbols at rock bottom prices. And when he ever gets wise enough to fight his AIDS epidemic, maybe he'll find some good Egyptian volunteers to replace the Jewish ones.

    • Fed Up

      You are thankfully incorrect about Dr. King. He flat out told an acquaintance of his that anti-Zionism was antisemitism. Now, the incident was not as grandiose as has been reported – there was no long letter – that's an urban legend. But it is based on a conversation he had where he said almost verbatim was I wrote above, and, interestingly enough, his family, who zealously guards his words against mis-quotes, has never come out & fully repudiated even the incorrect version of what he said – doubtless because they know what his sentiments were.
      http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Quote

  • trickyblain

    Didn't know I was reading Stormfront. AIDS didn't break out until the mid-80's, genius, so it's not really a shocker that the rates have increased since the end of aparteid. Also, from 2000-2008 SA had one of the highest economic growth rates in the world. Ever been to Capetown? Nice place.

  • USMCSniper

    GAVIN POSTS: "The centre of capetown has become a muggers paradise. I have lived in the centre of town for 4 years and there was never a problem but seems that things have changed dramatically.I have witnessed 2 x tourists being mugged in St Georges Mall in broad daylight. A guy had his cellphone removed from his hand near safmarine hse, he was out numbered and rather let it go than resist to these crooks. A month a go i was unfortunate to be in an attempted mugging, just of heerengracht str, i was more fortunate but thought that it was time people know you must not take your safety in capetown for granted as mugging and gang attacks are now common."

  • Ahmad Yaqeen

    People assume that there is an equivalence between a man with a so called "honourable" title and so called "honourable" deeds!
    Look to the Vatican and the honourable who preach love n peace while showing extra ordinary live for prepubescent children!
    Add a love for terrorists to the list!

  • Ahmad Yaqeen

    The State of Israel is not an apartheid state. I know because I write this from Jerusalem where I have seen Arab mothers peacefully strolling with their families — even though I also drove on Israeli roads protected by walls and fences from Arab bullets and stones. I know Arabs go to Israeli schools, and get the best medical care in the world. I know they vote and have elected representatives to the Israeli Parliament. I see street signs in Arabic, an official language here. None of this was true for blacks under Apartheid in Tutu's South Africa.

    http://www.aish.com/jw/id/48938802.html

    • Fed Up

      Bless you for not just your honesty, but your bravery in speaking out (& thanks for the link).

  • David

    His record also seems to have been sanitised.
    He was accused in the late 1980's of misappropriating church donations and using them to fund his lavish lifestyle. He lives in a huge mansion in South Africa.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JosephWiess JosephWiess

    How can you be a Christian and a member of the Catholic church and call for the destruction of the Birthplace of Christ? Or did you just suddenly forget that Christ was a Jew and the Bible is based on the Torah, and Christ just added grace to God's law?

    Shame on you.

    • Max

      Tutu is an Anglican bishop.

    • price

      Jesus christ wasnt a jew …Jesus Christ was a nazarene sent on the people of Israel and the rest of the world as a monotheistic religion preacher : the 12 tribes not to the son of Judah ( that gave the Jew name)…jesus was denied the name of a prophet cause the Israeli said he was born out of de..lock, his mom was never married and he was a liar…the Isareli government treats all arab regardless if they are christian or jew as beasts…the practice apartheid on them…

  • jonah

    "Bishop" Tutu is living and has lived in a state of gross deception for many, many years.. He is the false prophet of South African Liberation Theology, a condition that renders "righteousness" as "rights" revealed by him and hois fellow travelers who interpret the Bible to suit their disgraceful intentions. His lawless and selective application of "truth" reflect the tragic nature of his deceptions. ALL Jews should emigrate to Israel from the country. The present crime wave there is a direct result of this false premise.

  • Jim Johnson

    While TuTu points a finger there are three fingers pointing back at him and South Africa.

  • BS1977

    Hey Tutu, go back to South Africa and SHUT UP……just look at Africa today…….Zaire, Rwanda, Sudan, Somalia, Angola, Zimbabwe…..all twenty times worse than was Apartheid South Africa. Not saying Apartheid is a good thing, but compared to the genocides in Sudan and Rwanda, the brutal dictatorships and starvation, violence and mass deaths, apartheid seems mild by comparison.

    • prix

      the white man is rite the black man should have known better

  • BS1977

    Speaking of Sudan, has Mr. Tutu ever gone there? If you do some reading or research, you would shocked…..the horrific genocide perpetrated upon the poor, starving , defenseless black Christians of South Sudan by the Northern Muslim raiders, is a nightmare of incomprehensible cruelty and barbaric violence…..a hundred times worse than Apartheid….Mr. Tutu. There is no comparison. Whole towns and villages wiped out, burned down, hundreds of thousands of refugees killed outright…some in the most barbaric ways imagineable, Mr. Tutu. Thousands more perished from thirst, starvation, disease and exposure….the attackers often would kill all the women …leaving children to the hyenas, wild dogs and vultures…..got that Mr. Tutu?…..I heard you live in a lavish home with your Nobel Prize….why don't you cruise on up to Sudan, or over to Zimbabwe and then tell us about Apartheid in Israel….all lies lies lies.

    • trickyblain

      It seems that the bulk of your arguments on this thread amount to: "Look over there!"

  • Ron Grant

    Above all,Desmond Tutu is a good man.It says much for this man of peace and forgiveness,indeed it says much for man, that this small black Bishop ,a product of the Apartheid state,can maintain his humanity.It behooves us all to listen to good men everywhere even when they hold opinions contrary to ours e.g.Tutu, Goldstone, General Petraeius,etc. vis a vis Israel.
    As I have stated on several posts to FP,I believe it is necessary at this time to initiate sanctions on Israel as was the case with Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia.Recently there were calls for Leonard Cohen to boycott Israel and cancel his scheduled performances there.While Cohen gave his controversial performances,the receipts were donated to bereaving Israeli and Palestinian families.He also offered to perform in Ramalla.I was proud of this Canadian even though he did perform in Israel because as a Jew I thought his love for his people put him in a very difficult moral position.Another Canadian I am proud of is Elvis Costello.See below.

    It Is After Considerable Contemplation…

    It is after considerable contemplation that I have lately arrived at the decision that I must withdraw from the two performances scheduled in Israel on the 30th of June and the 1st of July.

    One lives in hope that music is more than mere noise, filling up idle time, whether intending to elate or lament.

    Then there are occasions when merely having your name added to a concert schedule may be interpreted as a political act that resonates more than anything that might be sung and it may be assumed that one has no mind for the suffering of the innocent.

    I must believe that the audience for the coming concerts would have contained many people who question the policies of their government on settlement and deplore conditions that visit intimidation, humiliation or much worse on Palestinian civilians in the name of national security.

    I am also keenly aware of the sensitivity of these themes in the wake of so many despicable acts of violence perpetrated in the name of liberation.

    Some will regard all of this an unknowable without personal experience but if these subjects are actually too grave and complex to be addressed in a concert, then it is also quite impossible to simply look the other way.

    I offer my sincere apologies for any disappointment to the advance ticket holders as well as to the organizers.

    My thanks also go to the members of the Israeli media with whom I had most rewarding and illuminating conversations. They may regard these exchanges as a waste of their time but they were of great value and help to me in gaining an appreciation of the cultural scene.

    I hope it is possible to understand that I am not taking this decision lightly or so I may stand beneath any banner, nor is it one in which I imagine myself to possess any unique or eternal truth.

    It is a matter of instinct and conscience.

    It has been necessary to dial out the falsehoods of propaganda, the double game and hysterical language of politics, the vanity and self-righteousness of public communiqués from cranks in order to eventually sift through my own conflicted thoughts.

    I have come to the following conclusions.

    One must at least consider any rational argument that comes before the appeal of more desperate means.

    Sometimes a silence in music is better than adding to the static and so an end to it.

    I cannot imagine receiving another invitation to perform in Israel, which is a matter of regret but I can imagine a better time when I would not be writing this.

    With the hope for peace and understanding. Elvis Costello

  • joelsk44039

    In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, when asked what he thought of "Tutu," he replied, "so-so."

  • max

    I noticed how much he said about his 'brother' Bad Bob wiping out the Zimbabwe citizens that did not want to conform to his Facist rule!!!!!!

  • Whatwaswillbe

    Yasser Arafat also won the Nobel peace prize. Jew hatred doesn't go away it merely changes hands. Today it's in the hands of 'The Left'. Tutu was famous for 'throwing the Bible' at the masters of apartheid. But I guess he's stopped reading it now.

  • Mike

    After reading the comments here I simply have to laugh. Not one can put up a proper argument, all simply rely personall attcks Desmond Tutu. There is clearly a violation of palestinian human rights by Israel, which I am certain you will deny, yet you can not give tue evidence of this being false. I myself live in South Africa and can confirm that Tutu's view is held by the the greater proportion of people in the country (all races).

    Looking at the hard facts,the Palastinians have it far worse that the black people ever had it during Apartheid.

  • Levan

    In reply to Josephweiss, I don't think Desmond tutu is Catholic, I believe he is Anglican.

  • caligula

    What amazes somehow is the fact that South Africa opened ( the Jews in southAfrica did it)a hoolycost …sorry a holocaust Museum in Cape town after 2004 .date which is corresponding of the take over by the black government and tose same jews who opened the holocaust museum , their parents made millions with apartheid backed policies…what a double standard …Jew were very pro afrikanners during apartheid and benefited with all the advantages of Europeean settlers in South africa…so i d suggest the same Museum be destroyed and low cheap cost flat be built instead for previously disadvantaged

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