Death to Deserters


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“God has commanded us to kill those who leave Islam.” These are the words of Islamic scholar Sheikh Youssef Al-Badri, a member of the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs in Egypt, which were stated on Egyptian television. The interior minister of Egypt agrees with the Sheikh and is quoted in a newspaper saying: “Converts are to be killed.” Islamic scholars and the majority of public opinion in Egypt all agree with them — conversion to Christianity is a mortal sin legally punishable by death.

Such statements are considered by many to be a legal death warrant, allowing the murder of apostates wherever they are. They cause much fear and panic not only to those who leave Islam in Muslim countries, but also to those who leave Islam in the West.

Whereas in the West, religion is considered a matter of personal faith and conviction, being a Muslim is not a personal matter. As you will see from the video below, it is a no-win legal matter with the state. Being a Muslim is not a private relationship with Allah, but a contract with the state in which the citizen must surrender to Islamic law whether he is a Muslim or not.

Three former Muslims are featured in the video: Maher El Gohary and his fourteen year-old daughter, whose original petition to officially practice Christianity in Egypt was rejected; the third is Mohammed Higazy, whose petition to become Christian instead of Muslim was also rejected. Higazy also filed a lawsuit to have the right as a parent to state on his newborn son’s birth certificate that he is Christian, or give him a Christian name. That was also rejected. The statement on his son’s birth certificate declaring that the baby was Muslim, was forced by the government against the parents’ will. All of these former Muslims converted to Christianity years ago, but are still officially Muslims on all their government IDs and passports.

El Gohary’s daughter is forced to attend Islamic classes at her public schools, and because she is officially a Muslim, she can never marry a Christian man. That is the law in a so-called moderate Muslim country like Egypt.

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  • Gamal

    This is ridiculous..

    Egypt is not Somalia or Afghanistan.. No one here can harm any one because of his religion, skin color or language..

    The story is that we now have new patterns.. People who leave Christianity into Islam or Islam into Christianity go to TV shows and Newspapers, not to the Civil Registrar to change their religious status.. They, live on TVs, badmouth the other religion and, hence, some extremists from both side say we will kill that man to make him an example!…But no one dare to do so.. They just threat and use the power of old texts to prevent the repetition of such conversions..

    You say Ministry of Interior said yes to killing!!!.. This is more and more worthy of ridicule!
    This man in special is well known for his anti-extremism and his prisons are full of Muslims who just requesting to allow women to be veiled!…

    Oh my God! Internet now became full of lies and fabrications.

  • davarino

    Thanks for your courage Nonie. Thanks for telling it like it is.

    Well I guess its official, Islam wants everybody dead, apostate, infadel. Thats great, a religion that gets new converts by threat of death, and holds current members by threat of death.

    Where do I sign up?

    Hmm, now that I think of it, maybe they should have many more converts…….infiltrators : ) That kind of thing works both ways……..muhaaaa muhaaaaa

  • Tim Pottorff

    Not until we lose several large groups of people in terrorist attacks will the US and the West take the Islamic threat seriously enough to make drastic immigration changes. We seem to forget history so quickly. You can bet that you will NEVER hear any negative information about Islam given in our schools and universities or most of the media for that matter. The majority of Americans are ignorant about this cancer of a culture……Islam. We are not too far behind the fate of Britain at this point in time. Hardship seems to wake people up sometimes…let's see what is on the horizon for our once Christian nation.

  • Stephen D.

    Why can't these organizations be called out for this? Since they have a voice with local, state, and federal government authorities perhaps this can be highlighted and brought out to challenge their legitimacy every time they pose as humane and speak out for Islam. As David Horowitz did with that (not so innocent) school girl. Ask them at every turn to pledge to "denounce any law or commandment that condemns apostates to death. CAIR and ISNA [and ALL OTHER Muslims in America wanting credability] should demand a retraction from Sheikh Al-Badri, and tell him that his fatwa for killing apostates is wrong and un-Islamic."

  • Barbaracvm

    When will the newspapers and national news show put this article on their front page? ?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JosephWiess JosephWiess

    And people wonder why I call Islam a cult, instead of a religion. Anytime you have to force people to stay in a religion, or die, then it's not a religion, it's a control freaky cult.

  • melpol1

    Camel owners understand that without proper training the camel is wild and worthless, only after months of beatings a camel has earned the right to wear a saddle. Training a bride is more difficult, she is also wild and worthless and it takes years of harsh discipline before she is fit to be called a wife. A man can be judged by his camel and the obedience of his family, a man with an untrained family and a wild camel is an apostate, and should be stoned to death.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/nopoliticallemmings nopoliticallemmings

    JosephWiess, How right you are. Islam is a Cult that is characterized by their conquering political ideology and is militantly 'Islam vs. the rest of the world'.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/ nopoliticallemmings

    Americans need to read about Islam and understand the bloody history of the Cult of Death. The Muslim Brotherhood organizations in America, including CAIR has a very successful 're-education' campaign to lie about what is Islam (this is the practice of al-taqiyya). Our MSM is in lock-step with the evil Muslims, as any Dhimmi would be.

    • xman

      Not just Americans but every infidel, whatever nationality, otherwise what you see happening in Muslim countries will become a regular occurrence here. Don't think "It can't happen to Western civilization" because history is littered with countless civilizations who probably thought that, and are now long gone.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/nopoliticallemmings nopoliticallemmings

    The problem with Americans in dealing with things Islamic is that most Americans equate 'Islam' with all other 'religious' faiths. Wrong move! Islam is not so much a religion as it is a Cult. Education is the key to understanding the motivations of Islamists and the lies they tell.

  • Allen

    This is intolerable. How can Western nations just stand by and watch the threatening and murder of people who are smart enough to leave Islam. We have to find a way to protect those people brave and wise enough to leave Islam.

  • http://www.lifeshaven.net Utopian

    The Christian says, I will sacrifice my life for what I believe, and will not force your will to believe as I (Matt.5:44,45). The muslim says, I will sacrifice your life for what I believe and under threat of death force you to believe as I (Surah 9:5). Certain facts should be kept in mind: 1. Liberty of conscience has no place in Islam. 2. It is a religion promoting 1st degree murder, and therefore, sin. 3. All men are not created equal in Islam. 4. Muhammad's visions collapse as fraudulent under the scrutiny of the Bible's 16 guidelines for true prophets; therefore, he is, as the Bible calls him, "the false prophet." 5. Islam's depiction of the angel Gabriel who they claim gave Muhammad the words of God utterly contradicts the words and works of the true Gabriel of the Bible. 6. The father of Arabs (including Muhammad) was Ishmael who worshiped the God of his father Abraham not the god of Muhammad, therefore all Arab muslims dishonor their father standing in open sin while claiming superiority over all men. 7. World War III is Islam vs. the world.

  • Jim Golden

    Cult, religion? Garbage is more apt a word!

  • Clay Cole

    NO! NO! NO!

    How many times have we been told by Muslims on the borad that they don't kill people who convert. This has to be a lie made up by Jews to make Muslims look bad!!!!

    The sad thing is this is true and no one cares. Just like with honor murders. Well the difference between honor murders and the killing of people who convert from Islam to any other religion is that honor murders are not in the koran and the killing of converts leaving Islam is.

  • Clay Cole

    This should come as no surprise. The koran commands the death of people that convert out of islam. I think we may need to start looking at this seriously here in the West.

  • michael

    Sheikh Youssef Al-Badri is a legitimate military target who as a blasphemer has placed himself under the Divine Malediction. For it is written in the Law of Moses that if a prophet says in the name of God things which God has not commanded, that prophet must die.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/nopoliticallemmings nopoliticallemmings

    JosephWiess, How right you are. Islam is a Cult that is characterized by their conquering political ideology and is militantly 'Islam vs. the rest of the world'.

    I find it troubling that our government welcomes hundreds of thousands of 'immigrants' from Islamic countries to America. They come here to 'settle' America to be another Islamic country (some even continue to practice polygamy and slavery here). There has been a stealth insurgency by Islamists in America. We are in trouble and most Americans are without any idea of the problems ahead.

    Americans need to read about Islam and understand the bloody history of the Cult of Death. The Muslim Brotherhood organizations in America, including CAIR has a very successful 're-education' campaign to lie about what is Islam (this is the practice of al-taqiyya). Our MSM is in lock-step with the evil Muslims, as any Dhimmi would be.