2010 Census Shows Folks Flocking to Free Market States

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Democrats sought to downplay the ominous message that the 2010 election seemed to portend for their party. “I don’t think that shifting some seats from one area of the country to another necessarily marks a concern that you can’t make a politically potent argument in those new places,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said. Gibbs might be right. Perhaps Democrats can make “politically potent” arguments in the new, growing centers of population and power in America. But that’s somewhat beside the point. Unless those arguments are economically potent and can thus convince voters that putting down roots in the area will lead to personal fulfillment and prosperity, the political sales-pitch won’t count for much. The Democratic/progressive message resonates in the Detroit metro area, for example, but what sort of victory is that? Voters are fleeing the greater Detroit region in droves and while those who remain are the most reliable of the Democrat faithful, their importance diminishes with each passing day as the center of the nation’s population moves ever west and south.

The progressive paradigm declares that equal results, as determined by the benevolent guiding hand of big government, will ultimately prove the most attractive enticement to the electorate. The 2010 census suggests something else: that the average American is far less interested in equal results than he or she cares about equal opportunity – the opportunity to prosper in states that do not choose to interfere with individual decisions or to pick an individual’s pocket. Texas Governor Rick Perry nailed it, contrasting his state’s economy to that of California:

If people needed any reminder of why Texas is the greatest place in America to live, work and raise a family, this report certainly provides it,” he said in a written statement. “With all due respect to California, it’s hard to beat our state’s combination of low taxes, predictable regulations, fair legal system and world-class workforce. The fact that Texas has created more jobs this year than any other state is confirmation that our state is on the right track.

Will the Democratic Party and those states suffering under leftist leadership respond to Perry’s challenge? That seems unlikely, but leftist governance of economically irrelevant states grows less and less important each day. States like New York, California and Illinois can continue to pursue their leftist, utopian dreams, but those fantasies will mean little as their citizens continue to flock to places where the money actually is, rather than remain in states where lofty promises remain unfulfilled.

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  • http://www.mysapce.com/freddawes1776/ Fred Dawes

    This is both good and dangerous the political/race proprganda from the Left will attack free ideals that are not in line with the ideals of the third world, within 5 years california will be part of the third world ( mexico ) and poor as hell with massive third world crime just like mexico city in fact we can now see L.A. As a mexico city with no laws and total racists actions against any who are not hispanic and a race hate population the other fact we are seeing the start of a civil war or total race war right inside the USA, LET US ALL HOPE That this will never happen.

  • Paul

    Why do you use the term "progressive" ? Why give a rather positive meaning to something that is totally, wholly and nothing but negative ?
    You should use the term "politically correct" ! And use it as often as you can.
    Not only will this have a derisive effect on your lefties
    but it will also make people more aware where the problem is.
    The problem is not with people who look forward but with people who are politically correct.

    Paul – Darmstadt/Germany

  • davarino

    I live in Texas and the American spirit is alive and well here. Come on down and enjoy some freedom, and the people are nice as long as your polite and respectful. The only thing we need now is to stop the illegal immigration problem.

    You blue states keep raising those state income taxes : )

    • Reason_For_Life

      Texas should be more worried about immigrants from California and New York than about illegals. Californians and New Yorkers have already destroyed two states, they are much more experienced in that than Mexicans. I know, I'm a refugee from both NY and CA.

      • scott

        Texas is more worried about the yankee’s that are coming down here to find work…and they also bring the same voting record that destoyed there ecnomies up north…they never learn…conservatives use to win by huge margins now the elections are much closer…its because of yankee’s who come down here and are voting the same way that ruined there state.Illegals are a HUGE problem also.

  • rbla

    I salute the citizens of Texas. However, if they continue to follow the siren song of their cheap labor lobby proponents, the Bushes, Armey and until recently Gov. Perry himself, by continuing to import millions of impoverished and uneducated Hispanics they will inevitably end up like California. It may take a little longer but it will happen. And the same can be said of other free market states such as Georgia, Florida and Nevada; just look who the latter returned to the Senate. Realism and not false complacency is what conservatives require.

  • Dean from Ohio

    As some have already noted, these blue people moving to red states after fouling their own nests are bringing their Marxist, freeloading, freedom-despising and god-hating ideologies with them. They are already starting to raise taxes and strangle businesses in their new states. As others have said, they are a cancer metastasizing from a dead organ to a relatively healthy one. It is only a matter of time before they kill off their entire host.

    Too bad we can't build walls to keep them out.

    • Philosopherking

      I've noticed that as well.

    • Guest

      You shouldn't make the mistake of assuming that ALL people in California are marxist freeloaders. If that were true, the California economy would have collapsed quite some time ago. There are (and were) conservative people that finally had a gut-full of the ever-increasing liberal policies and decided that it was time to leave in spite of their love for the God-given natural beauty of the state.

      As more conservatives leave California, the percentage of liberals increase in that state (by virtue of them staying behind) until it can no longer function.

  • Seek

    Most libertarians, in fact, are what Dean from Ohio would call "God-hating." Maybe these free-market people simply like warmer climates. In any event, migration within U.S. states is a basic citizen's right. If you want to build your version of the Berlin Wall, build it somewhere else. Liberals may be wrong on many things, but they aren't cancerous tissue either.

  • Reason_For_Life

    "Liberals may be wrong on many things, but they aren't cancerous tissue either. "

    Actually, they are. They produce regulations, taxes and bureaucracies that expand and cutoff the flow of goods and services ultimately destroying an economy similar to the way that cancerous cells destroy healthy ones.

    People have been blaming immigrants for problems for over a century beginning with the Chinese Exclusion Act. Immigrants aren't the problem, the welfare state is what's wrecking America. Most immigrants come here looking for work but are quickly made into wards of the state by idiotic progressive policies.

    • Spider

      You are right my friend. The problem is not the immingration itself it is the Leftists that use the immigrants for power and co-opt them as wards of their totalitarian nanny state.

    • Seek

      Whether or not wards of the welfare state, immigrants in huge numbers are a problem. There are limits to an open-door policy. I'll take American liberals any day over unassimilated Mexicans, who are not quite so family values-oriented as many think. Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute has done some great research on this.

  • Spider

    Note from California ——–
    Being a conservitive I plan to leave California for good within 2 years. It was like paradise here when I moved here 28 years ago. I could do nothing as I watched one great city after another turn into a Mexican slum. Our legislature is run by nothing but RACIST HISPANIC SOCIALISTS and with the election of Jerry Brown there will be no turning the state back from being turned into another third world country. Our mayor in LA is a formed member of "MENcHA" ( a group that wants the southwest U.S. conquered for Mexico) Here is just one example of what is coming if you let this happe in your state: un-elected officials ( California Air Resources Board ) just instituted a Cap and Trade scheme that will eliminate1 Million jobs and might force gasoline up to around $8.00 per gallon. This great state is being destroyed before our very eyes.

    • Reason_For_Life

      Actually, Jerry Brown has a brilliant plan to solve the immigration problem. He will so thoroughly wreck the California economy that the Mexican government will build a wall to keep Californians from crossing the border in search of high paying jobs as day laborers.

      Spider – I moved to California 38 years ago and left 14 years ago when I saw that the end was in sight.

      • Robert

        I lived in CA from 1962 until 1980 when I left and vowed to never move back. it was obvious even then…

        • Reason_For_Life

          I agree, there's nothing to go back to.

    • aspacia

      I moved from California to Nevada in 2005. I dislike the dust in Las Vegas, but prefer the freedoms and lack of regulations in the state.

  • richardrider

    California is ranked 14th highest in per capita property taxes (including commercial) – the only major tax where we are not in the worst ten states. But CA property taxes per home were the 10th highest in the nation in 2008. http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/251.htm… and http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/1913.ht

    One of the highest state vehicle license car taxes. 1.15% per year on value of vehicle, up from 0.65% in 2008. http://tinyurl.com/lrvmtd

    California’s 2010 “Tax Freedom Day” (the day the average taxpayer stops working for government and starts working for themself) is the 7th worst date in the nation – up from 28th worst in 1994, but down from 4th worst last year CA “improved” only because of our state’s soaring unemployment rate – the new tax dodge! http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/387.ht

    In 2009, 24 states raised their taxes at least 1% to collect $28.6 billion. California’s taxes went up about $11 billion – thus we were responsible for about 38.5% of all the state tax increases in the nation. http://tinyurl.com/2009-CA-Tax-Increase-rank

    California tied for 2nd highest state unemployment rate. (November, 2010) 12.4%. National unemployment rate 9.8%. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

    California needlessly licenses more occupations than any state – 177. Second worst state is Connecticut at 155. The average for the states is 92. http://cssrc.us/publications.aspx?id=7707

  • richardrider

    America’s top 600 CEO’s rank California “the worst place in which to do business” for the fifth straight year (3/2010). But here’s the interesting part – they think California is a great state to live (primarily for the great climate) – they just won’t bring their businesses here because of the oppressive tax and regulatory climate.

    Consider this quote from the survey (a conclusion reflected in the rankings of the characteristics of the state): “California has huge advantages with its size, quality of work force, particularly in high tech, as well as the quality of life and climate advantages of the state. However, it is an absolute regulatory and tax disaster.” http://tinyurl.com/CEO-states-rank-2010

  • richardrider

    California residential electricity costs an average of 30.1% more than the national average (far higher in San Diego County). For industrial use, CA electricity is 60.8% higher than the national average (June, 2010). http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/tabl

    It costs 38% more to build solar panels in California than in Tennessee – which is why European corporations have invested $2.3 billion in two Tennessee manufacturing plants to build solar panels for our state. http://tinyurl.com/llussb

  • richardrider

    BOTTOM LINE: Consider California’s net domestic migration (migration between states). From April, 2000 through June, 2008 (8 years, 2 months) California has lost a NET 1.4 million people. The departures slowed in 2008 only because people couldn’t sell their homes. In 2010 we lost “only” 72,000 net people to domestic migration. http://www.mdp.state.md.us/msdc/Pop_estimate/Esti… and http://tinyurl.com/2010-CA-lost-72000

    These are not welfare kings and queens departing. They are the young, the educated, the productive, the ambitious, the wealthy (such as Tiger Woods), and retirees seeking to make their pensions provide more bang for the buck.

    The irony is that a disproportionate number of these seniors are retired state and local government employees fleeing the state that provides them with their opulent pensions – in order to avoid the high taxes that these same employees pushed so hard through their unions. And once they move out of California, our state can no longer tax their California-paid pensions.

    • Dennis X

      Opulent pensions, 2% at 55 years, that we pay for. Your pension is not free, unless your a fire figther, cop or prison guard. All others including medical is paid for. So after 25 years of service you get 50% of your check, opulent? State workers move so that they can make that opulent check work.

      • richardrider

        Thank, Dennis, for clearly demonstrating the myopic viewpoint of clueless govt workers.

        Retire at age 55???? Have you any idea what the private sector retirement age is? And which direction it is going?

        Half your highest salary for life for 25 years work? PLus annual (capped) cost of living increases? You have any idea what (if any) pension awaits private sector workers?

        No social security??? You didn't start govt work until age 30 — were you in school? Didn't work for 10 years total in the private sector?

        And let's remember that your pay is HIGHER than private sector pay doing the same work. Not true 30 years ago, but very true (in most occupations) today.

        Again, thanks for playing.

        • Dennis X

          First , the private sector makes ax. 33% in salary for the same job I do. There is no pairity pay, so get your facts right , second , cost of living increases, I haven't gotten a rise in years and back when we did at 1.5% it was eaten up by health care increases . Yes, I 'll get soical security that I've been paying in to since I was 16 years old. At age 30 I worked full time and went to law school thank you. We all have choices, I'm cool with mine, sorry things aren't working out for you. Remember, I 'm paying for what I get. Have you considered bonds?

          • Reason_For_Life

            "First , the private sector makes ax. 33% in salary for the same job I do. "

            Then quit and get an immediate 33% pay raise.

          • Dennis X

            I'm happy where I am with a penison , but thank you for your concern.

  • Dennis X

    So all this talk about how bad California is then, please LEAVE and please do not visit . Thank you in advance!

  • trickyblain

    And, the 8th largest economy in the world.

    Just saying…

  • richardrider

    The migration within the U.S. clearly has been away from the high tax, pro-labor union states to where the jobs and economic prosperity can be found.

    The decline of California will not be dramatic — just a stately drop in collective prosperity coupled with financial crisis after crisis in state and local governments. CA private sector jobs will become more and more scarce, so more productive folks will reluctantly choose to leave the state.

    If our housing slump rallies so people can sell their homes, we will likely return to our previous 250,000 person annual NET domestic out-migration of 2004-2007

    One thing I can assure you off — liberals will ALWAYS blame limited government advocates for the decline. They will NEVER admit that they were wrong — and that they inadvertently engineered the disaster.

    • MEH

      Haha. You sure are kinda bitter. You should be a politician and follow the path you've designated to all "wealthy" people. You'll fly with the flockers eventually, right?

      Funny, you say "These are not welfare kings and queens departing. They are the young, the educated, the productive, the ambitious, the wealthy (such as Tiger Woods), and retirees seeking to make their pensions provide more bang for the buck."

    • MEH

      Now, I have no need to cite, prove, or present anyone with my wordly titles or acknowledgements, so excuse my vageness. I do treasure privacy and respect. Thus, I'm young and educated, along with my husband as well. He's coveted in his profession (ambitious, you call him), and I love to be productive. We're not financially wealthy, but have an abundance of more meaningful treasures. I've lived in 2 other states besides California. Both of which I've met many people of many backgrounds that have moved from California as well. NONE, I repeat, NONE fit the description you claim to know. In fact, your description seems to capture the essence of people that move into that precious state. Most people have moved simply for cheaper housing, mortgages, and simply to live in a less populated/violent state. Those are the general and most popular responses of which I can understand; yet I'm true to the west coast.

    • MEH

      My family moved here because they wanted to pay a cheaper mortgage, I was studying outside of California and consequently had to follow them prior to finishing my studies. I give this story to lend information of why MOST people leave California. Although, my parents are now returning due to poor wages based on discrimination on several grounds. There is a low tolerance for places with cheap housing toward minorities, unfortunately.

    • MEH

      California holds the beauty of different people. Different people have different responsibilties. Responsibilities create stress and ways to look for something cheaper. The biggest bill anyone usually pays is that of housing. Cheaper living creates attraction at less diverse places. Attraction applies to more than one target. Natives don't respond well to flocks of different "species." Then, there are 2 options, bare with it, or happily leave.

    • MEH

      I plan to move back to California, soon too. I LOVE it!!! Now I'm not single and carry a family along for the ride. We've not yet established our roots elsewhere because only one land can grow with so much abundance…California. They look forward to returning to the roots of both their parents. You have no idea how hard it really is to LIVE outside of an oportunistic state. Whatever their financial crisis may be, let us just take care of our households and communities and STOP being so CYNICAL and BITTER.

      • richardrider

        So you used all those words (you offer no sources) to make two personal points:

        1. You don't know anyone who left CA for better economic opportunities elsewhere.
        2. You hope to one day move back.

        That's it?? All that shows is that you have few acquaintances, and are California dreamin'. Hardly persuasive.

        By all means — return to CA. Bring your clueless family. And bring money! We need your tax dollars.

        And bring a U-Haul. We need drivers to return them to CA for the people lined up to leave. It costs as much as four times more to rent a U-Haul leaving the state as it does to bring one to CA. Been that way for years — supply and demand (an alien concept for you, no doubt).

        I've been here over 40 years, and I'm seeing families split up as the younger folks leave their beloved California to find better jobs (indeed, ANY jobs) elsewhere. And the stats back me up. You offer nothing but insults, and not very imaginative ones at that.

        The final irony? I'm staying and fighting to save our state. You fled, and now deign to advise us.

  • hijinx60

    Here in the beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina we have had many people from many states move in. They all talked about how wonderful this place is and I agree. They brought a rapid price rise in land then property taxes. Next they began to involve themselves in the area politics, which they have a perfect right to do. and began to make changes that mimiced where they were from. They didn't want their property views marred by plants or malls so now even the ones that had been here for years are gone…so are the jobs. So, now we have no jobs, land prices so high that 'locals' can't afford to buy, no industry, high taxes, local government run by out-of-state people, and many families that have lived here for generations moving out.

    • Robert

      The same thing happened here in Nevada. Californians mostly. They didn't like the Socialist-state affairs and decided to move to the state with the nations lowest unemployment, fastest growth, etc. Then they formed HOA's, voted out legal tobacco smoking just about the way it is in CA, while narrowly failing to leaglize marijuana! They have entered into politics, and are now trying to change NV from a Right to Work State to a Unionized-pay to play state. I left CA in 1980, as it was to liberal even then. I am now hoping to get the hell out of this CA wana-be as soon as I can…

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