The Appeaser-In-Chief

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The Islamist movement that threatens Judeo-Christian western culture can be viewed in one of two ways: as a fundamentalist, misguidedly pious religious phenomenon that appeals to a wide swath of the Muslim masses, or as a calculated, cynical attempt to grab both the power and wealth that the West holds — orchestrated by an Islamic elite who don’t actually care about the finer points of the Quran or Sharia law, except when either might serve to further their overall purpose. The important difference between the way that George W. Bush approached the problem of radical Islam and the manner in which Barack Obama deals with the issue – or claims to be trying to deal it – involves these two different points of view.

At various instances during his terms in office Bush tried, mostly in vain, to find and deal with moderates among Islamic leadership, hoping to thus isolate extremist leaders and their radical, fundamentalist followers. It was a flawed vision, but an appealing one, for it attacked the problem at a grass roots level. If radical Islam is primarily a political phenomenon then it should be possible to separate radical organizations like the Taliban, al Qaeda and Hamas from ordinary moderate Muslims who reject fundamentalist dogma and instead blend secular values in with their theology in the western style. That’s a tough road to take, especially given the lack of any meaningful educational system in the modern sense in the Muslim world. Yet, in Iraq the majority of a relatively educated populace (by Islamic-state standards anyway) did indeed reject the radicals in their midst once coalition forces provided the kind of security needed to allow the Iraqi people to take charge of their lives in safety.

Barack Obama, on the other hand, has effectively abandoned any hope of cultivating a moderate, secularlist Islam that might counterbalance the fundamentalist, radical variety. Given the ever-increasing power and influence of the extremists, even in a nation like Turkey that we once thought of as the model of a “moderate Muslim” state, the president’s approach is more realistic than Bush’s utopian visions. Moderate Muslims, cowed by the murderous fanatics who infect Islam throughout the globe, were never of much use in the war on terror anyway and aren’t likely to be in the future. In a practical sense, Obama’s policies reflect the reality that Islam cannot be reformed in any meaningful sense. But his reaction to that reality has been to try to appease the extremists rather than rendering them harmless. It’s a strategy that merely emboldens radical Muslims, who are thus convinced more than ever that the West lacks the stomach to see this war through.

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  • hum_hum

    Heh, as long as Islam is seen as threatening not 'Secular' but 'Judeo-Christian' culture, you can never have my support. Indeed, this regression into 'Judeo-Christian values' after 9/11 is a victory of the Abrahamic terrorists and to not realize this is to be as blind as the other side. I understand the logic behind the attempts to whip up support from the hinterlands by talking their language about the Bible, but this apprach means that the battle has been lost before it has even began. Becase if you're not totally honest, you can't be one of the good guys. And if you ARE being honest by embracing one Abrahamic branch as opposed to another – then we have really nothing to talk about. Because it's not a matter of which name for the patriarchich invisible master is the right one and who knows best what he wants. As long as the debate is on this level of medieval schizoid paranoia there are no winners.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Vienna1683 Vienna1683

      Go stick it. When we are no longer a Judeo Christian culture we will no longer exist.

      Equating Islam as just another "Abrahamic" culure is like equating Muhammad, a murderer, a rapist, a man who maimed, blinded and beheaded people with Jesus Christ.

      • Babs

        The Arabs are descendants of Ishmael….Abraham's son by Hagar who was Sarah's wife. When God had promised a son to Abraham and Sarah…when it wasn't fulfilled when they thought…or at least when Sarah thought, she gave Hagar to Abraham to have a child by…Ishmael…and even though God blessed Ishmael saying he would be a great nation (the Arabs) that He was establishing his covenant with Isaac (the Jews) so the way I see it…if only Rachel had NOT given Hagar to Abraham, we would not HAVE this problem called "Islam"…..just my two cents worth. That being said, Vienna, I am no way equating Muhammad with Jesus though.

    • Kary

      I believe it does threaten Secular (as well as Judeo-Christian) culture as they don't care if they kill the Secularist right along with the Judeo-Christian. If you had been in the Towers when they were attacked, you would have died right along with any Christians, Jews or for that matter, muslims.

  • S. HaLevi

    Lets join the dots. General McCrystal and Soetoro obama genuflecting to islam.
    Only in a society totally confused the connection could be missed.
    Obama intentionally sent out kids and best commanders into mission impossible while he kisses up to the same islamists he portends to fight.
    The US people elected a treacherous, duplicitous, untrustworthy impostor that is harming every aspect of America from the environment to the social structures and from civilian to the military.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/WilliamJWard WilliamJamesWard

      I wonder if he was bowing or was being told by the Saudi King to show America
      what it can kiss?…………………………………..William

      • guest

        If the Saudi King had bared his ass, Obama would have kissed it. He kisses it all the time in a slew of other ways. Unbelievably, he has the vicious gaul to attack Israel, TRUE democracy, when Saudi Arabia is as close as anyplace on earth that you could describe as an "Apartheid" society. This article was superbly written. At the very least, it helps to relieve the depression of living under the regime of The Cardboard Candidate who I have absolutely no respect for whatsoever. He is an impostor who is as opaque as the night.

  • JasonPappas

    Once again I have to disagree with the author. The difference between Bush and Obama is a difference in degree, not a difference in kind.

    Both claim to have a policy of “winning hearts and minds.” I don’t think that was how FDR fought our enemies in WWII.

    It was Bush who claimed that “Islam means peace.” He was completely ignorant of Islam as most of us were. But he never learned. We did.

    Bush also reached out to radicals. He embraced the leadership of the Wahhabbi establishment in Saudi Arabia. These are the people who funded the Madrassahs where hatred of our values is taught.

    Bush helped Hamas gain power by demanding democracy without the cultural antecedents that would allow some semblance of respect for rights. He sent “humanitarian” aid to Gaza that only helped Hamas stay in power and divert resources to attacking Jews. His talk about how "it is only a few" was shown to be bankrupt. Jihadi always had wide support even if only a few heeded this demanding call for sacrifice.

    Yes, Obama has dropped any pretence that there is a problem with jihadists. But Bush’s denial laid the groundwork … Obama just took the next step in denial.

    I'm tough on Obama; but I can't let Bush off the hook. The author notes some of Bush's limitations but doesn't go far enough.

    • Andres de Alamaya

      Bravo. You are a rare one who sees it as it is.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/WildJew WildJew

      This is what I tried to say. You said it better.

  • Patrick49

    Instead of returning the bust of Winston Churchill Barack Hussein Obama should have reviewed the words of Winston Churchill on Islam from The River War (1899), his account of the Sudanese campaign. Winston Churchill was a man whose prescient warnings about Hitler were ignored by the world. The world appears to be doing the same today.

    "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities – but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WildJew WildJew

    Sorry, I do not see much difference between Bush and Obama on Islam except that Obama is much worse than Bush. I do not accept all these apologetics in behalf of Bush such as, he tried "to find and deal with moderates among Islamic leadership, hoping to thus isolate extremist leaders and their radical, fundamentalist followers." Bush lied about Islam plain and simple. He repeatedly lied about Islam, asserting that "its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah…." Lies. Not only that, like Obama Bush lied about Israel, alleging that Israelis illegally occupy Muslim land. Bush insisted that Israel must exercise "restraint" in the mist of some of the most horrific suicide bombings and terror.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/JasonPappas JasonPappas

      Yes, and remember that Bush pushed a two-state solution on Israel.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WildJew WildJew

    Bush lectured Israel; he pressured Israel; he scolded Israel's "humiliation and oppression" of potential Muslim jihadists at check points. Condoleezza Rice, speaking for the Bush administration, compared Israel's Jews to white racists in the south where she grew up (playing piano); she compared the "Palestinians" to the Blacks in the south who suffered at the hands of racists like Israel's Jews. Bush was silent.

    • Stephen D.

      WildJew I agree with you. But the fact is Bush could claim to be ignorant while Obama KNOWS Islam. If he isn't (I beleive he is) a Muslim it is irrelevent. Everything he does is EXACTLY what a Muslim would do.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/WildJew WildJew

        Obama is Muslim-born. Just as a man who is born a Jew is a Jew, same holds true in Islam. He may be Murtadd (apostate) – something I doubt – but he is a Muslim, even if a secular Muslim. Obama holds deep sympathies for the world of Islam, along with deep-seated hostility for Israel's Jews.

        I voted for Bush; sadly. Bush can claim he was ignorant – his supporters claim he was ignorant or uninformed. I don't buy it. After all the incredible things Bush said and did immediately after 9/11, I began doing my homework on Bush, reading about his and his father's financial ties with our Saudi enemies. Bush's actions and statements began making sense in light of it.

  • Timothy L. Pennell

    He IS a MUSLIM. His FATHER was Muslim. His STEP FATHER was Muslim. His MOTHER converted to Islam. He grew up in KENYA and INDONESIA. He attended MUSLIM SCHOOLS. ("Barack. Look out! There's a JEW behind that rock. KILL HIM!") He went to MOSQUE. He knelt on his PRAYER RUG, facing MECCA, and prayed to ALLAH 5 times a day.
    These are FACTS. This is not CONSPIRACY. Where is his CHURCH? 18 MONTHS in office, and he has NO CHURCH.
    NEVER FORGET WHO and WHAT he is. His PAST is locked in a VAULT. All of his DOCUMENTED HISTORY. The L.A. TIMES is sitting on a VIDEO of Obama at P.L.O. Recruiter, and JEW KILLERS' going away party. (Apparently, the People do NOT have a RIGHT TO SEE IT.)
    "And I saw the BEAST rise from the Sea. And he was given a MOUTH, to speak HAUGHTY and BLASPHEMOUS words. And he was allowed to exercise authority for FORTY TWO MONTHS." Revelations 13-5.
    Sounds like our Boy, to me.

  • Cuban Refugee

    Your last two sentences sent a chill up my spine — "America and Israel will surely pay for Obama’s naiveté in blood. The only real questions are when and how much." Obama's eyes are wide open to the Islamic tidal wave that has swept Europe, which threatens North America as well; as a closet Muslim, he will "stand with the Muslims if the political winds shift in an ugly direction," and is actively facilitating the way for Sharia Law in the United States. The day the articles of impeachment are drawn for the Muslim in the Oval Office cannot come too soon, but the damage he will have inflicted before that glorious day will be crushing, devastating and cataclysmic for our country. On Inauguration Day, as he placed his hand on the Bible to swear to defend the Constitution, his malevolent inner voice was shouting, "Allahu Akbar!"

  • USMCSniper

    Americans are not worried about Obama's past/current ties with Islam because we are a complacent people. The majority of Americans are like frogs comfortably sitting in a pool of cool water who realize, too late, that there is an open flame under them that gradually heated the water to a fatal boiling point! Befriending Muslims is one of the dumbest things we can possibly do. Western culture, as we know it, is disappearing slowly almost without notice except to a few thinking people.

  • JasonPappas

    The above picture of Obama bowing to Abdullah is disgusting on many accounts. We are right to display this as an outrage. Whenever we do this, however, leftists just smile and show a picture of Bush holding hands with the same SOB.

    Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have voted or supported Bush … what were the choices? I’m saying we should have been tougher on him.

    Back in 2005 Dore Gold published a book on Saudi Arabia called “Hatred’s Kingdom.” It is a must read. I reviewed it at the time: http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/2005/06/hat

    I naively thought the book would be a game changer for Republicans. It wasn’t. We were too busy criticizing the absurdities on the left that we didn’t give “tough love” to those on our side of the isle. It can be done. None of my leftist friends has ever taken my criticism of Bush—that he’s not tough enough and has the wrong "friends"—as a sign that I share their shame of our country. My pride is America and our troops never wavers.

    My point is that we need good internal debate—respectful, rational, productive debate.

  • Tony

    If you would have seen the unbelievable grin of Obama while receiving Prime minister Hariri of Lebanon, you would have known he is Moslem. The breadth of his exhilaration could not have been the importance of Lebanon to the US, it is the one religion that unite their hearts that was driving the happiness in the heart of Obama, Mr. Hariri was so emboldened that he went to the front lawn of the white house and threatened the USA.
    Compare this exploding grin across the face of Obama with Hariri to the muted, cold,
    chilled reception to Nataniahu when he was in the same oval office. Obama was so ill mannered with our Jewish ally, the only way it could have been understood is that a follower of the quoran can not respect a jew, the virulent attacks of Mohammed on the Jews in the quoran were resonating in his head and he could not get himself to even be a polite host to our old friend from the middle east

  • WilliamJamesWard

    May be that the time for talk is way past, McChrystal should return to Washington
    as Caesar returned to Rome……..OR……In November with and American
    Congress, defund and investigate and indict and prosecute and punish those
    who have debased our lives, stolen our National wealth, provided for our enemies,
    cursed our friends and wish to make us their slaves in fact. Have you seen or
    read about the new Mosque in your town lately? It is moving like a freight train,
    slow at first but then unstoppable, Islam is on the way and we blow the tracks
    or lie down on them, its our choice……………………….William

  • Richard

    If Obama isn't a closet Moslem he is close to being one, and his formative years were spend in a Moslem country being educated in the Islamic religion. His early years are now coming back to haunt us and Israel, all of Western Civilization is under attack by a very nasty foe, one that is either cynical politicians or true believer Moslems. It doesn't matter which is running the jihad since the end goal is the destruction of the West. I don't know if the US and freedom in the world are going to survive this struggle but as Wellington put it, it will be a near run thing either way.

  • MaxDaddy

    Barry is not merely bowing, he is kissing the King's ring! That is what aeveryone in the picture is gaping at.