The “Islamophobia” Canard

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That sort of blind, fanatical devotion to a dogma so alien to western values and traditions should be feared, whether violence is involved or not. Whether the tactic of choice is coercion or subversion, the goals are the same and if Islam were to achieve its goals – by whatever means – western civilization would step back a millennia. So let us not recoil in horror and shame from the term “Islamophobia.” Islam is a force to reckoned with and many Muslims seem to like it that way. That does not mean that the west cannot peacefully co-exist with the Islamic world, but rather that co-existence must be on our terms. It must be clear that western traditions of freedom, liberty, equal rights and secular rule are not up for debate. In that context, the Ground Zero mosque is a battleground and it’s fitting that it should be. On the one side, a majority of Americans have expressed their opposition to the project – sometimes in less than polite, yet always ultimately peacefully expressed, terms – and on the other side a cadre of Islamic apologists have employed every tactic from indignation to victimization in order to force the insult down our throats. Few opponents of the mosque deny that Rauf has the legal right to build his structure in this land of the free, but virtually all of them believe that doing so represents a power-play designed to establish Muslim primacy at the site that Americans believe is sacred ground.

Unfortunately, apologists for the Ground Zero mosque who attribute all opposition to a supposedly irrational “Islamophobia” are not restricted to the Left. Libertarian gadfly Ron Paul used the issue to press forward with his uniquely naïve view of a world in which America bears responsibility for Islamic extremism, while the extremists themselves are little more than slightly deluded, but somewhat justified, victims of our evil, imperialist dreams. “This is all about hate and Islamaphobia,” Paul wrote this week. “This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.”

Paul’s attempt to segregate “radical religious Islamic views” from Islam in general reveals his stupefying ignorance of the religion he is referring to. Mainstream Islamic views are, by definition, radical. Furthermore, while many nations and cultures have (mistakenly in my view) bemoaned American “aggression and occupation,” none has engaged in the kind of abhorrent, immoral, violent behavior that Muslim fanatics have embraced. In the western world, we settle our disputes honorably, with trained warriors fighting other trained warriors and everyone abides by the decision. In the Muslim world, women, children and the mentally disabled are sent off to battle while their masters hide in caves.

None of the above is to suggest that attempts to reform Islam do not exist, or that reformers should not be supported. Robert R. Reilly, author of The Closing of the Muslim Mind has named a number of prominent Muslims who are trying to reform their religion. Those names include Bassam Tibi, Pervez Hoodbhoy, Fatima Mernissi, Latif Lakhdar, the recently deceased Hamid Abu Zayd (driven out of Egypt as an apostate for having suggested that the Arabic language is a human artifact), Abdelwahab Meddeb, Tarek Heggy, Abdurrahman Wahid, the late president of Indonesia Fazlur Rahman and Abdulkarim Soroush. All of these brave Muslims, most of whom live in fear and exile, are trying hard to reconcile the supernatural aspects of Islam with a secular world that has long ago rejected blind faith.

If we truly hope to reform Islam and the efforts of Muslims who are trying to do so against all odds, then it is incumbent upon us to do battle upon those fields where our fundamentalist enemies choose to fight. Ground Zero is the most recent and most prominent of such battlefields, but there is little doubt that it will not be the last.

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  • hikerdude

    Just check out the real news on the net. There has been a suicide bombing somewhere in the middle east every day. Muslims killing Muslims .non Muslims and anyone who happens to be around. Death is their mantra. Islam being a "Religion of Peace' is the biggest scam since we thought the Earth was flat. They hate "Infidels".The MSM refuses to air the truth . There is no such thing as a "Moderate Muslim". The Planet has been infected with "Political Correctness Cancer".
    American Christian Infidel
    Michael Canzano

    • Mike Elmore

      hikerdude, you have nailed it. Makes your head hurt doesn't it when people can't see an existential threat right in front of them..elmore

  • adam

    Majority of Muslims are moderate, and let Muslims do the job of explain Islam and we should stay away from religions comparison and learn what the founder fathers thought about that . We have to learn how to accept one another . If you need more information about Islam try ( ) . don’t rely on the media for information its always go far left or far right but get the source before judging

    • Mike Elmore

      Our founding fathers had to build a Navy because of Islam. They would be rolling in their graves right now if they could see what has happened to the rise of Islam in America..know you history..elmore

      • trickyblain

        Thsy had a navy by the time of ratification. Are you reffering to the Barbary Pirates? If so, would you likewise say that we had to fight a revolution because the British were Christians?

    • stephencuz

      Would you be so kind as to comment on the article posted Adam? Even without violence Islam is a force to be reckoned with in that its goal is to dominate not assimilate. Sharia Law above Constitutional Law. Muslims above non-Muslims. Women valued less then men. Death to apostates. Death to homosexuals. Death to the "Jew hifing behind a rock, come kill him." What can you call "moderate" in any of this? And don't say "Moderate Muslims" don't agree with these goals because then they are no longer Muslims but an Infidel like me. Yes, I too have continued to call it like it is. This article is spot on. I speak out against Islam NOT Muslims, per se. IT is the entire Life command system of Islam that is to be fought on all fronts. Why is it no one ever speaks to these charges but always side steps them? Address the article Adam or go away you dolt.

      • trickyblain

        1) The Consititution is the law of the US. Any attempt to overthrow it in the name of Sharia would be treason.
        2) The source fairy tales of all the western desert religions are anti-woman, anti-homosexual and "anti-other." We are lucky enough to have said fairy tales tempered by the ideals of the Enlightenment (and, no, these ideas are not rooted in "Judeo-Christian" tradition – they were a counterreaction to them).
        3) I don't think that reading "Jihadwatch, FPM, etc give you any special insights — it only loads you up with one-sided propaganda.

    • singanewsong

      Adam, WhyIslam is the taqiyya site. More appropriate websites are politicalislam and jihadwatch.

    • IreneAdler

      Adam, I did go to the source for an explanation of Islam – the Koran. Yes, I read it, as an example of "know thy enemy." Let me tell you something: there is so much evil encapsulated in that book, it is astounding. You say we have to learn to accept one another, but I say that I will never accept another who is bound by his religion to lie to me or kill me if he cannot convert me.

    • Matthew Quigley

      I've read the koran, hadiths (Buqari) and the sunnah. You, sir, are full of manure. Until you can quit spouting taqiyya, your words are meaningless and we do not hear you.

    • auntieizlam

      Adam is a fence troll, he tries to get his pro-islam points cross by appearing to sit on the fence. He post on many of the anti-islam sites.

    • deborah smith

      you are either a muslim or a moron.either way ,why don't you move to a muslim country? they aren't welcome here or are their supporters,their money is dirty and bloody,it carries a curse.

  • Gamaliel Isaac

    The argument of the supporters of the mosque boils down to the idea that the majority of Muslims are moderate and that attempts to block the mosque are blocking a moderate peace loving religion from building bridges. Anyone who thinks Islam is a peace loving religion should view Anyone who thinks the vast majority of Muslims are moderate should look at the results of surveys and so on which are given at…. Here is just one paragraph from that web site.
    A poll conducted in Saudi Arabia in January 2002 revealed that 95 percent of educated Saudis between the ages of 25 and 41 support Osama bin Laden (Harper's Magazine web site) According to an opinion poll conducted by the Pew Research Center for release in March 2004, Osama bin Laden, is viewed favorably by large percentages in Pakistan (65%), Jordan (55%) and Morocco (45%). Even in Turkey, where bin Laden was highly unpopular at the time of the poll, as many as 31% said that suicide attacks against Americans and other Westerners in Iraq are justifiable.

    • Mike Elmore

      Another poll had 34% of the British born Muslim males between 16 and 35 years of age believing that killing apostates under sharia law was OK. Shouldn't that be some kind of warning to the Western World about Islam as the religion of peace? elmore

      • kathy

        British born muslim males believe this because the leadership in the mosques, using the freedoms of freedom loving countries, teach them this. Our governments better wake up….this is a subversive political movement masquerading as a religion. We fight subversives in this country…you are not allowed to plot to overthrow the government….(well, unless you get voted in for president, that is.) No one can live under two political systems at one time. Which one will they choose when a split occurs? Where is their higher allegiance? It won't be to our system of laws. Remember, we are the Great Satan.

        • Peter

          …and the ONE, BHO, has already stated several times that he would 'stand with the Muslims' if there is a split in our society. He may say he is not a Muslim but he sure isn't acting like it. BHO was raised outside the country in his formative years and then was mentored by communists and radicals upon his 'return' to the US. We need wonder no more about him, his statements define him as at least overtly sympathetic to Islam if not a member of that sociopolitical belief.

  • Guest

    Tine magazine is clueless about the drop in their subscriptions, just as the remainder of the dinasaur media………I see Newsweek is back at it again, with their new transfusion / ownership. Money down a rathole.

  • guest

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf said, "We tend to forget, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non-Muslims".__Interesting quote, because in the eyes of the true believers of Allah, there are no innicent non-Muslims, you are either Muslim or the enemy of Islam.

  • ApolloSpeaks

    The word should be ISLAMISTPHOBE.

    • kathy

      Too hard to say….!

    • Matthew Quigley

      A phobia is an irrational fear. I believe that fearing these goons is QUITE rational, as long as it doesn't lead one into capitulating to them.

  • Chezwick_Mac

    A "phobia" is an IRRATIONAL fear. There is nothing irrational about fearing Islam. Just ask the victims of the more than 12,000 terrorist attacks around the world perpetrated by Muslims since Sept 11, 2001.

    • azztech2step

      EXACTLY , thank you! In fact the argument should be stated that it is most LOGICAL to fear Islam. There is evil in this world and it works tirelessly to stalk us all.

    • Spider

      Chezwick_Mac – You are exactly right , there is nothing "irrational" about fearing what Islam has planned for the future, they have said what they plan to do in no uncertain terms..

    • Spirit_Of_1683

      That more than 12,000 is now almost 16,000 – and those are the ones we know about. This doesn't include the ongoing genocide in Darfur. A good 500,000 infidels have been murdered every year by Muslims over the last century alone. And this has continued into this century.

    • cecilie

      It's more than 15 000 lethal terrorist attacks.

    • philcoop8192

      Check out the left sidebar at It has a running tally of the number of deadly attacks by Islamic terrorists since September 11, 2001. It currently stands at 15,911. That's attacks, not death toll; the latter is much, much higher.

  • Rbob

    I keep hearing that "the majority of Muslims are peaceful". Why don't those "peaceful" Muslims caste out the murderers in their midst? Most Christians would withdraw from any of their number who preach murder and mayhem to spread the word.
    The Koran has multiple verses in which their supposed prophet admonishes them to kill Christians and Jews. Christianity uses the New Testament as it's guide, and considers the Old Testament to no longer be history. There is no New Testament command to kill ANYONE in the name of Christ.

    • Guest

      Hi Rbob ~ just FYI ~ The entire Bible is now history and speaks to Christians for all time because it's the living Word of God. Jesus IS the Word. There is not a command in it anywhere to "kill in the name of Christ."

      When Jesus returns, (which will be very shortly) He will be killing those who have refused to accept Him as Savior, those who have hated the truth, (He is the Truth) and He'll be killing them via the two-edged sword of His Word.

      • Stern

        Nice Guest – because I don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, because he has not fulfilled the conditions of the Messiah as laid down in the Bible (the original Bible, not the one with bits added on by a whole bunch of other folks), you think I deserve to die. How does that make you any better than the average Muslim?

  • Andres de Alamaya

    The controversy of the Ground Zero mosque serves an excellent purpose. It has the whole country aware. It is educating out-to-lunch Americans on the incompatibility of Islam with any Democracy, particularly ours. It found the phony imam showing us clearly what they are up toand how they work. It may have given Obama his opportunity to kill his political career because it prompted him to take sides and now everybody knows exactly where he stands. He is not one of us. It may also have ended Bloomberg's political career, though with a large percentage of know-nuttin' New Yorkers he may survive, which is a shame. It has brought to the fore the real heroes of New York, the hard hats who won't work on the construction of this mosque which Muslims intended as a monument of Islam's shameful victory of the Great Satan. New York's hard hats have resurrected America's Spirit of '76, an inspiring moment that will go down in history. The mosque will never be built but it will have served to bring together the REAL AMERICANS who won't suffer evil invaders. God Bless America and strike dead all its enemies!

    • eric

      Yes, it is political suicide to defend the constitution.

  • tom1925

    A great post by Rich Trzupek! However, I have some trouble with the use of the term 'Islamophobia'. I cannot remember having a 'FEAR' of anyone nor do I believe our military 'fears' Isalm, or its adherents. I should like to suggest the use of another Islamo term such as hate, dislike,animus, ill-will,rancor or resentment, any of which more accurately describes the American attitude. Americans are appropriately frightened of the spectre of being forced to adopt Islam or dhimmitude, if only they understand those are the choices if we were subjugated by the cult of islam.
    Thomas E. Davis, Colonel, USA (ret)

    • trickyblain

      There are other Americans who see no signs of Shaira establishing a foothold over the political system in the US. These Americans read posts like yours, Tom, and wonder how you are connecting the dots.

  • Kim Bruce

    This is not new!
    It's like 1400 years-old.
    When Mohammad couln't sell his cult religion to the Quraysh in Mecca what did he do? He went to Medina, converted frineds and associates and family, came back to Mecca and accused them of basically the same thing. Then he beseiged and then slaughtered.
    So it's an old Muslim trick.

    • eric

      Sounds a lot like the old Christian trick of inquisition/witch-burning/the crusades and a billion other murders. Hmm, there is a pattern here and it is religion. Islam is more extreme than Christianity because it is newer and the hatreds are fresher. We shouldn't pretend that this behavior really belongs to one group of the other. War and hatred is a language all people speak. We should try to mend bridges and bring cultures together instead of blaming everyone else but ourselves.

  • tom1925

    As a followup post, I should like to note that, in my opinion, any and all who pacify, kowtow or embrace the dissimulation of Imam Rauf and/or Daisy Khan, CAIR or our muslim imposter executive, need to reeducate themselves. Islam is and has ben a threat to world peace since the 7th Century and that is unlikely to change until they are soundly and thoroughly trounced and driven back to the Arabian Peninsula.There Israel can and will keep a hawkeye on them and kick their but if they so much as kick sand in a neighbors face.
    Dr. Thomas E. Davis, Colonel, USA (ret)

  • Steve Chavez


    If it is a "Christian" who does this, as he or she screams "God is Great," and then attempts to put a private mega-church covering the whole block to bring "understanding and tolerance" to the issue, it will still be "freedom of religion" right or a thumb in the eye of Muslims?


  • samsgran1948

    Rich quotes Ron Paul as saying: "…what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation …" Is Paul talking about the same Muslims who conquered the entire Middle East, which had been almost entirely Christian up to that point, and still continue to occupy the area while they oppress and slaughter anyone who is not a Muslim? Is he talking about the same Muslims who conquered and occupied Christian Spain for several years until the Christians finally regrouped and drove them out? Is he talking about the same Muslims who invaded and occupied India for nearly a millennia, murdering hundreds of thousands in cold blood and who still continue to kill indiscriminately in today's India? Is he talking about the same Muslims who slaughtered a million non-Muslims in Pakistan in 1948, forced another milliion non-Muslims to leave Pakistan without a penny of compensation, and who continue to slaughter not just non-Muslims but Muslims who do not believe exactly as they do? The same Muslims who are hacking Buddhist priests and school children in southern Thailand in order to occupy the area and impose shariah law?

    • Matthew Quigley

      Let's be frank: Ron Paul is off the scale on the Flake-O-Meter. While he often speaks well and accurately for the cause of the Constitution, this is the flake Paul coming back in full force.

    • trickyblain

      "Is Paul talking about the same Muslims who conquered the entire Middle East, which had been almost entirely Christian up to that point,…"

      Probably not. They've been dead for a long, long time.

      • Spirit_Of_1683

        And you're so sorry that they didn't succeed in conquering the entire planet and didn't wipe out every Jew. its time you left the West, savage.

        • trickyblain

          Really, Spirit of 1683? You get that from a simple factual observation that has nothing to do with your pathetic attempt to tell me what I think?


    • Shnarkle

      And that's without mentioning the current Islamic drive for the subjugation of Africa using the same tried and tested methods you describe. this is what I just don't understand about the western Islamoapologists; the history of the spread of Islam clearly demonstrates that it is anything but a religion of peace. Do these idiots honestly believe that the Egyptians, or Syrians etc have always been Muslim? Of course not, and it only takes a cursory glance at the history of Islam to see what's in store for us unless we drop this PC insistance of not wanting to cause offence, draw a line in the sand and say, "Not one step further!"
      From a Brit worried about what the future has in store for his daughter.

  • USMCSniper

    I will give you Islamophobia in spades. Muck the Fuzzlims! Kill 'em all, wrap 'em in their prayer rugs and put 'em all in piles, burn 'em all using pork grease for a starter, and let Allah sort 'em out. Oh deaaaarrr, I am just awful.

    • Terry

      How very Christian of you. Hypocrite!

    • Roy

      Things like this undermine everyone else who is objectively pointing out what is actually troubling about Islam.

      • USMCSniper

        It is hard to find what isn't troubling abour Islam? you sound like one of those Dhimmi "Useful Idiots" of Islam that doesn't realize that they don't want to be tolerant, they don't want to assimilate, they want to change America to conform to Islam and Sharia law. Or may be you just want no conflict and the alligator to eat you last.

    • FlotteLotte

      Bravo, well said. Love You!

  • dumpbox

    It is often said that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. The same holds true for those ignore history. Today we have a group supporting the construction of an Islamic Center and mosque at Ground Zero by saying it is just a ‘freedom of religion’ issue. This group has spent the last 60 years trying to suppress the freedom of religion in America in every public venue possible. These same folks are silent about the ‘red tape’ that has been thrown up for the last ten years to stop the rebuilding of the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church. That church stood on that site since 1916 until it was destroyed on 9-11.
    Those who are supporting the Muslims are ignoring Islamic history, a history of conquest and the forced servitude of others. Islam is more than a religion; it is a combination of worship, social, economic and political beliefs into one with a goal of total world domination. They seek to covert the world under one religion and impose Shari law on all. Those failing to convert are allowed to live in a dhimmitude status and must pay a tax to Muslims for their ‘protection.’
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  • dumpbox

    The Islamic faith is not a peaceful religion. Mohammed preached living in peace when he was weak to buy time. During these times, he would be building up his strength. Once he was strong enough he would return to ‘jihad’ to conquer and enslave others. The Islamic faith commands Muslims to go on ‘jihad’ to conquer and convert the world. Once Muslim’s conquer a country/region, they have a long history of building an elaborate mosque on top of the religious symbol of those conquered. This is seen as a symbol of their victory and supremacy. The Dome of the Rock in Israel, the conversion of a former Byzantine basilica Hagia Sofia in Turkey, the destruction of a Visigothic Cathedral to build the Mezquita in Cordoba, Spain, are all examples of this.
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  • dumpbox

    Building a mosque on Ground Zero would represent just that, a symbol of conquest and domination of the ‘Great Satan,’ America. Currently on that site stands a 152-year-old building that many citizens have been attempting to place on the Landmark Preservation list for over 20 years. For those who make the argument that the Muslim’s just want a place to ‘worship’ why did the Muslim leaders turn down the Governor of New York’s offer to provide another site free for the construction of this Islamic Center? Essentially, the Islamic leaders said: 'No thanks, it has to be this site for the purpose of making a statement of domination!' Additionally, one has to question the planned dedication day for this center, 9-11-2011, the tenth anniversary of the attack on 9-11. This is a date carefully chosen to make a statement of Islamic domination over America. __As I said at the start, those who forget or ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Those supporting the building of this symbol of conquest and oppression are weakening America and prolonging the fight for freedom we are currently in with Islam. __"All war is based on deception." – Sun Tzu

  • Lori

    If Islam Is The Prime Religion Why Does It Have To Try To Impose On Man That It Is The Prime Religion? It Seems That They Fear The Religion themselves and try to explain that it is Good and lovely? All I see Is That They Hate And Will Kill Anyone Who Does Not Agree To Islam,If It Is The Religion We are all To Have Why Do they Scheme about It?Are The People Who Are Involved In Islam afraid?

    • mary

      right and DON´t VOTE Ron Paul and don´t support Rnd Paul. They are the same as Obama and are pro Muslim and alien to American values.

  • Brian

    Cultural assimilation takes many generations and a strong desire by the immigrant to assimilate. We can no longer affort to put lipstick on a camel and pretend it doesn't reek. We can't rip the black burqa off Muslim women who never had the most basic freedoms – to read, drive, walk the streets without fear, choose a mate, or ever talk to another male after she marries – and see them all as a capital offense.

    We won't ever be able to simply give a Muslim an Oxford or Harvard education, dress him in a suit and tie, and put him in a new BMW, then give him a good job, and expect him to be other than what his religion and thousands of years as a tribal culture instilled in him. We fool ourselves.

    Even a pit-bull with a pink, jewel-studded collar, living in a million-dollar condo, is just as dangerous. They were bred as miniature bulls to be put in the killing pit, and their owners turned it into a gambling event. Muslim culture was trained the same way – to expand in numbers and land area, and supercede whatever advanced cultures or religions stood in their way. Even if it meant burning down the library at Alexandria.

    • eric

      Yes, because Christians never mistreated women. Although they aren't good enough to serve in many churches, and America never mistreated women although they weren't allowed to vote, and they weren't allowed to work outside the home until we were pulled into a world war and America had no choice but to allow women to work. I agree with you about the way Islam treats women, but if you really cared about womens' rights and not just finding negative things about another religion, you would look at our behavior as an American culture first. It is more sincere to try to change your own flaws before pointing out others.

      • cecilie

        Eric, we're talking about islam as a dangerous ideology threatening the entire western culture here, not specific details.

  • Bill

    Islam has never been a "religon of peace." This is clearly a marketing logo to help them fool the MSM. The only kind of "peace" among Muslims, after 15 centuries, is the "peace" that tribal leaders greet each other with when they leave their swords outside the tent. "Peace" simply means "Look, no weapons." Yet that basic concept was even lost to our recent Nobel Peace Prize winner, Yassir Arafat, who still felt compelled to wear his gun and holster in front of the U.N. General Assembly to speak.

    Actually, anyone who respects "life" and the "right to live" as a free person, can be described as Islamophobic by their very existence. If the grand mosque in NY were ever to be built, simply building a public library or battered-women's shelter across the street would be tantamount to an act of war. Unfortunateley, it would be our own self-inflicted civil war.

  • kbs55

    Tariq Ramadan wrote the bald-faced lie that Mohammad never struck a woman –well perhaps little Aisha was still a child, but Mohammad hit her hard in the chest causing her great pain. His violence to females –women and children, Muslim or infidel, didn’t stop there. His behaviour and his revelations of allah’s dictates set the pattern for the extreme violence towards females found in Islam and fully endorsed in text and law.
    Domestic violence –ie beating wives is a ‘RIGHT’ given by allah, practised and stated by Mohammad and legitimated in Islamic law.
    To the ‘beating’ must be added other forms of domestic violence –paedophilia, clitoridectomy and ploughing women as fields along with restrictions and abusive terms for females. Mohammad instigated sadistic punishments for females and displayed great sadism to infidel females including children. Such sadism, following the fine example of Mohammad can be found across the Islamic world and is brought into the west by Islamic immigration. One might expect Tariq Ramadan, Professor of Islamic studies at Oxford University has he sunk so low that Islamic taqiyya (lying) now passes for academic integrity.

  • kbs55

    While the world's greatest sport and entertainment event, the Soccer World Cup, was going on, Pakistan quietly achieved a 'World Champion' title – it is in watching porn on the internet.
    A report from informs us that residents of Pakistan lead the world in searching for pornographic websites. They are the top users of pornographic sites on internet, with both men and women pass their time watching porn.

  • jacob

    About "moderate" Muslims and the "Religion of Peace"…

    Is it true or false that the Muslims in Queens were dancing in the street and giving avay candy when learning of the 9/11 horror and that it was one of therm more intelligent than
    the rest of the "Moderates" who told them to stop or else who knows what wold they face ???

    In my personal opinion, I guess it tis time to stop the jailbirds conversion to Islam, to stop the building of mosques and "madrassas" at least until Saudi Arabia allows the building of churches and synagogues in MECCA and stop the seizing and destrction of
    Bibles fond in traveler's baggage and if course, if they don't like it, our exit gates are always wide open.

    I guess we have put up with more than enough B.S from this so called "Religion"

    On the other hand, what does Mrs. CLINTON have to say about the $65,000 traveling expenses for the Imam to gather funds for his mosque ??

    How about Congress Republicans putting her feet to the fire on this issue ??

  • Anonymous Soul

    It's really hard to believe there are:

    a) people who think we are over-reacting by not wanting the mosque after 9-11.

    b) Any non-Muslims who would support the Mosque in the first place.

    If you've been on Facebook, you'll read basically the same three arguments that all boil down to this:

    "We have freedom of religion in this country"

    "I hate Christians (Or Jews, Or Bush, or America in General) so we should build the mosque!"

    "It will make Muslims very upset if we don't let them build it there"

    The first argument falls short when you realize we have limits to freedom of religion. Don't believe me? Try declaring your house a monastery and saying it's tax exempt. Try pimping out your wife and call her "High Priestess" of your religion,collecting $100 a pop from Johns and call them "donations from followers". Try sacrificing people to Satan, and tell the cops it's your religion. Try starting a religious television network w/o following FCC guidelines and see how long you're on the air. Become a minister in the Universal Life Church and start marrying people in the State of New York, and see what happens. People have gone to jail or paid tons in fines for the things I've mentioned in real life. Some municipalities will not allow store front churches. In the town in Florida I live in, street preaching is illegal. There are limits to Freedom of Religion. Besides, considering Muslims are working for a Muslim planet, I don't think Freedom of Religion is really a big concern.

    The second argument, I'll rephrase it as "Let's build the mosque because {___insert group's name here___} made mistakes in their history and I don't like them" is usually defeated if you point out that this is the jist of their argument. Somehow people must think this Mosque is a time machine that will undo everything from the slave trade in 18th century America, to the Crusades, to the Salem witch trials because these are the reasons I've heard to justify the mosque. Yes, really. Building a mosque to spite someone is not a valid reason.

    The last argument : It will upset Muslims if we don't. OK, it probably will. But then again, isn't it about time how Muslims worried about how they make us feel for a change? They didn't seem very upset after 9-11, but rather they were dancing in the streets. It's not that they are incapable of rage, just publish a cartoon about Mohamed and find that our first hand.

    I invite anyone with a brain who opposes this mosque to join the fun on Facebook.

  • TaterSalad


    Very Important to know this before it is to late:…!

    America…….. don't be so gullible because if you remain this way it will change the way you live and here is why:

    President Barack Obama supports the "Victory Mosque at ground zero while 65% or more of America says NO to this construction. Since the President says he is a Muslim (… ) (

  • Mohammad Atta

    Were any body parts found on the roof of that building?

  • TaterSalad

    (continued): ) (… )or so he says and he is to embarassed to actually tell us all the truth (again), then it is evident that he does not care about any of the Americans killed on 9/11 but only about the feelings of Islamists who want to build this grand "Victory Mosque".

    Attached are videos #1, #2, #3, #4 & #5 of what our President supports and what kind of "Change" he wants to bring to America. Change that is NOT in the best interests of America and our laws.

  • Eric

    Muslim hate is real. You don't have to go very far in this country to find a bigot. And if you say that it is a violent religion then you aren't a student of history or current events. Islam and Christianity are both very violent. It just doesn't seem to bother Americans that Christian violence exists. It isn't in anyone's best interest to make this worse, but to try to co-exist peacefully on American soil. If we don't, than we are no better than Muslims who attack Christians in their countries.

    Anyone who doesn't understand that religious bigotry against any religion is wrong should look up "kristallnacht." We will become to the Muslims what the Nazis were to the Jews if we don't take a step back and support religious freedom and acceptance. Tolerance, what would Jesus do?

    • Lori

      Jesus Would tell Them Truth, With No Fear! And would say No One Can Go To The Father But By Him! No One, He says it It Is Finished! Sin Is Sin And the Wages Of Sin Is Death,Truly Truly I Say Onto You unless you are Born Again You will Not Enter In To The Kingdom Of God The Father.He Was Out Among Them Separate From Those Who Did Not Receive Him! He Would Go To The Father and Do What The Father Wanted regardless Of what Man Thought.He Is the Lamb Of God. He Is Gods Son! Like It Or Not You Deal With It!

      • trickyblain

        Nice to know that Jesus is on these boards under the handle "Lori."

  • jason taylor

    America was conceived in a place where existence was hard and violence a common if not quite daily fact. So was Ancient Greece, Rome, and Israel. Most European states were conceived in the same manner. In fact it is hard to find a civilization or culture that was not conceived in like manner.

  • Lorenzo Bouchard

    The stupidity of the Liberal Left and Communists, aligning with Islam to undermine America's value, is akin to Stalin's idiocy in signing a treaty with Hitler, in the early second world war, for a piece of Poland. Millions of Russians died, due to his naive opportunistic error.
    Check how Communists and Leftists are treated in Iran in the last 30 years, since Komeini and Islam took over.
    Approximately 130,000 have been Imprisoned and Executed.



  • Ken

    You will always be labeled as bigot and an islamophobe if you do not agree with anything these groups and their radical leftist crony supporters come up with. The Cordoba Project is the tip of the iceberg. If they succeed in building it, nothing will stop them from doing anything they want anywhere. A stand must be taken for decency and for what is right. Yes they have a right to build where they wish, but common decency and respect for those lives lost and their families should take precendence the what Rauf and Khan propose. If this project is allowed to been seen through to fruition, it will be a festering wound that will not heal for a long time. We must be vigilant and expose this and other "projects" for what they are; attempts to change our way of life and to institute a way of life and code of laws contradictory to the Constitution and the liberty it ensures to ALL Americans.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    I must confess, I almost didn’t click this article because the last few time I read articles written by Rich Trzupek regarding Islam I was very let down. However, not this time. I must commend Rich Trzupek on this fine article. It is a significant improvement over his previous articles. By the way, it is also very well written as well. Congratulations!