A “Religious Scholar”?

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Chicago Tribune reporter Manya Brachear has kindly written to me to alert me to this article. In her email to me she invited Jihad Watch readers to comment at her Tribune blog on this story, so have at it — why shouldn’t News Real readers join in the fun as well? Note her identification of Tariq Ramadan as a “religious scholar” in her parting question below. “Chicago welcomes once-banned Muslim scholar,” by Manya Brachear in the Chicago Tribune’s Seeker blog, April 5:

[…] Ahmed Rehab, executive director of the Chicago chapter of the Council of American-Islamic Relations, said he wasted no time inviting Ramadan to speak when the scholar’s rights to enter the U.S. were restored in January. He had last spoken with Ramadan in December when both of them spoke at the Parliament for the World’s Religions in Melbourne, Australia. Ramadan now has a 10-year visa.”We are all about reconciling Islam and the West,” Rehab said. “We challenge those who attempt to drive a wedge between Muslim and being American. That’s really the life cause of Tariq Ramadan as an academic and philosopher and media personality. He often says that he’s culturally Western, nationally Swiss, ethnically Egyptian and religiously Muslim. For him and for us as well, there is no inherent schism between being Muslim and being American.”…

Rehab said Ramadan’s visa was originally yanked by a “paranoid” Bush administration. He said Ramadan was, and still is, one of the most popular Muslim voices in the world. He is grateful that the Obama administration realized the absurdity of barring an intellectual to speak in the U.S.

But author Robert Spencer says that popularity is dangerous. In interviews, he has criticized Clinton for making an exception to U.S. law that prohibits supports of terrorist groups from entering the country. Spencer said Ramadan should still be barred for donating money to a group that funds Hamas.

Spencer contends that the scholar has the same goals as Osama bin Laden–to impose Shariah law in the West. While Ramadan paints himself as a moderate intellectual, Spencer said, he is actually a “stealth jihadist.”

What do you think? Is allowing a religious scholar to speak in the U.S. dangerous or democratic?

A “religious scholar”? Is that really all that Tariq Ramadan is? Ramadan is the grandson of Hasan Al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood — an international Islamic supremacist organization that is dedicated, in its own words (according to an internal Brotherhood document captured in a raid of the Holy Land Foundation), to “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house.” While he has alluded vaguely to disagreements with his grandfather, he has also lionized him, and has never repudiated the Brotherhood’s program.

The Trib article may give the impression that I am the originator of any suspicion of Ramadan’s reformist bona fides. In fact, that is not the case. French journalist Caroline Fourest, who has published a book-length study of Ramadan’s sly duplicity, Brother Tariq, concludes that this much-lionized putative Muslim Martin Luther is actually anything but a reformer: in reality, Ramadan is “remaining scrupulously faithful to the strategy mapped out by his grandfather, a strategy of advance stage by stage” toward the imposition of Islamic law in the West.

Ramadan, she explains, in his public lectures and writings invests words like “law” and “democracy” with subtle and carefully crafted new definitions, permitting him to engage in “an apparently inoffensive discourse while remaining faithful to an eminently Islamist message and without having to lie overtly — at least not in his eyes.” Ramadan, she said, “may have an influence on young Islamists and constitute a factor of incitement that could lead them to join the partisans of violence.”

Ramadan was barred from the country by the Bush Administration not for disagreeing with the Iraq war, as Brave Ahmed Rehab suggests here and as even the Obama Administration has irresponsibly claimed, but for contributing to an Islamic charity that funded Hamas. Ramadan has also recently been in the paid employ of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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  • Arnold Wolf

    Robert Spencer is no more a danger to the west than an earthworm. No one is fooled into thinking that he is a scholar or teacher of anything but hate for the west, women or living in the caves of Muhammad the pedophile.

    The old saying rings true, "Robert Spencer and his ilk make plans and G-d laughs."

  • tanstaafl jw

    Robert Spencer's "sin" is relating what the Qur'an, the Hadith, the Sira and 1400 years of Islamic exegesis actually say.

    Don't blame Spencer for telling the truth, blame Mohammed for inventing Islam.

  • Connie

    The phrase "Moderate Muslim" has more holes than a sieve!! Duplicity and deception govern Muslims from birth, enabling them to preach world peace and brotherhood out of one side of their mouth while notoriously preaching jihad or conversion out of the other. Hilary Clinton has a trusted Muslim advisor who fills her head with honey-coated lies. This deception is what is enabling them to "advance stage by stage" and puts our country in jeopardy. Our Prez and government have their heads in the sand pf "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil!!!"

  • YesforIslam

    Paranoid people are above me!!! ^^^^^^^

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/GaryRumain Gary Rumain

      Takiya alert!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Indioviejo Indioviejo

    Until Islam accepts freedom of speech, gender equality, freedom of and from religion, and equality before the Law, then we need to be enemies until death. We can not suffer the imposition of Sharia Law over any aspect of our Civilization. Muslims need to step up into the XXI Century by shedding their medioevil culture that is so oppresing to them. Let Tarik Ramadam lead the way if he is so enlightened.

    • Karim

      Ok,just wait a moment here.I will go and ask Islam if if want to accept all these wonderful cuddly things.Oh boy,I hope it will say yes.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Indioviejo Indioviejo

        Well, that,s the point Karim, Islam will never change and neither will freedom loving people, so we need to be killing the likes of you for ever and ever, Amen.

  • dhikerdude

    "An addition of Muslims to a Nation is a subtraction in civilization." This is a quote from a friend. Just keep abreast of the suicide bombings of the past two weeks . They strap bombs on their own to kill innocents. What other religion approves such barbaric behavior. If Christians or Buddists or Jews displayed this barbaric behavior the outrage would be heard all the way to Mars. Why is this behavior tolerrated by Muslims? What has been the Arab contribution to the Planet ? Algebra and terrorism come to mind. Are these the people and their mind set you want controlling your life?
    American Christian Infidel
    Michael Canzano

    • Toma

      No,it is only Hindus in Sri Lanka who have been responsible for the majority of suicide bombings.It Jews who kill thousands of children in Palestine with bullets and illegal weapons.

  • Zion

    This man is dangerous and we should be on guard, because he will do everything to persuade his audience that Islam is not at war with the West.

  • Fred

    Didn't take Obama long to welcome his Muslim Radicals here.

  • Gary Bales

    Mr. Wolf, you sure you read the article? The article is about Tariq Ramadan, not Robert Spenser.

  • Logus

    Mr. Spencer,

    On a side note, is it known whether Mr. Gulen’s name is his birth name or a moniker he has chosen?

    I say this because a rudimentary translation of his name, Fethullah Gulen comes up as Conquest Allah Laughing/Smiling, or some derivative of that. Perhaps the Conquering Allah Smiles?

  • Stephen D.

    Mr. Spencer tells the truth. Look for yourselves:
    The most prominent Muslim scholar of the 20th century, Sheikh Abu Ala Maududi, who stated in his book, “Islamic Law and Constitution,” on p. 262, that the Islamic State:
    “seeks to mould every aspect of life and activity…. In such a state no one can regard any field of his affairs as personal and private. Considered from this aspect the Islamic State bears a kind of resemblance to the Fascist and Communist states.” Maududi added “Islam wishes to destroy all states and governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and program of Islam.”
    Is Ramadan a follower of Islam? Does he refute this statement? Will he actually say that there is NO PLACE for SHARIA LAW and the CONSTITUTION should always prevail? My money says he sides with the Sharia Law OVER the CONSTITUTION. Gotta give him props on being very good at deception as called for in the Qur'an when dealing with non-Muslims!

  • david

    there is no place in a civilized society for a death cult. islam is a death cult and should be expunged from civil society. leave them to their deserts, tents and mud huts.

  • Fullofflies

    It is safer to sleep with the tiger…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/GaryRumain Gary Rumain


  • Subee

    All of this is ridiculus….Islam has one motive to take over this Country, Israel and the rest of the World.
    We would then all be under Sharia law.
    Robert Spencer has Studied and uncovered so much of this. Islam does not like light to be show on all their "secret stuff"…This is where Obama gets it from!!

  • henry

    I just have one single complaint against all anti-muslimists – none of you are so politically incorrect as to really clearly refer the Koran Worshipers as " Worshipers of the Religion of Murder – the Religion of Revenge. Any Muslim who believes in the Koran to the degree that the Koran demands that it be believed, must support the cold-blooded murders of totally innocent people. The Koran is perfect and alive and divine and can never be criticized and it clearly supports the occasions of cold-blooded murder, and often rewards acts of plain murder with unlimited extra-marital sex with blood. But no one will call Allah a God of Murder, and His followers servants of the God of Murder and Revenge! Why is that? It doesn't make any sense – if you don't call them what they are how does one expect to ever be able to educate people about the fact that their powerful and divine book, the Koran, is a book that recommends cold-blooded murder? Even the murder of anybody that would try to change to another Religion besides the Religion of Murder? Why bother talking and writing about it if you won't say what it is? No one is going to take you seriously unless you spell it out M-U-R-D-E-R-E-R G-O-D!

  • http://moziani.tripod.com/ Dr. Ed Metzler-Moziani, Judge (ret.)

    I suppose, when he was in Cairo, the crypto-Islamic black-Muslim U.S. President Mr. Hussein X. became a secret honorary member of the Moslem Brotherhood.

  • YesforIslam

    Most of you do not have what it takes to become pure because you already act like those you fear. Judgmental, close minded, ignorant, Self-serving comments like these are just what the world needs more of. You do not know the first thing about Islam yet you speak of it like you spent your entire life learning about it. I can not post an opinion about Jews or Christians based on US media coverage and dumb reports that are only geared towards getting higher ratings! What do you think Jews and Christians didn't do anything to our society in the past or present. The blind see nothing and the ones that see turn their heads and at the end of the day Muslims do not loose any sleep over it because whether or not you believe in God one thing is true and that is what is reality and what is fact. It is fact that every person belonging to a religion culture or belief tend to want to be the dominant group. When you can prove to me that Islam is about murder and poor treatment of other please post but add the real facts: Statistics, quotes from the Qu'ran, real stuff you know.. Don't bull shit yourself by just following what everyone else thinks without doing your own investigation and research…. Christians have many beliefs and teaching in the bible that encourage slavery and I guess that is why the constitution was mad only for white people?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_slavery

  • henry

    yesforIslamisyourname – and you are here to do a better job than the poor young man before you – but you are still almost as inaccurate and confused – the details of our religion you have got wrong again. And for your own religion – well, we will try again to give you the correct details so that you will at least have some idea of what you have been born into. First of all, though the Jews were the best in the world, God did not in anyway become pleased with their over-all performance in caring for the poor and the slaves – if your would read the Jewish bible, your would see that the jews were under contract from God to feed any poor stranger – and clothe them and house them – no matter where they came from. These are the laws called "the corner of the field laws, or Peior. So, like divorce, He reluctantly allowed them to have slaves if they were treated very well and allowed to go completely free at the end of seven years – and they didn't break up any slave families. When they didn't act with Charity, God became angry with them as he will with those people who enslave with cruelty today. See, the obedient Jews were not at all bad – but we Christians always detested slavery even if we could not put a complete stop to it at times – our position is very clear on that and you can easily see it in all our history. Not so easy to see in your history however – And, as we confess we are sinners, (not pure) there is no need for you to say we are Judgmental, close minded, ignorant, Self-serving and mean – but evidently it is necessary for you to call yourself "PURE" – We do not want to be the "dominant group" like you Muslims do, if it means that we have to be mean suppressive dominators who give themselves special privileges over the people they share a land with. You are wrong about us, and the Jews Bible and Our Bible. By the way, there is a big difference between Catholics and Protestants – you may want to be aware of that before you tout your purity and right to dominate.