Truth On Trial


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How imperiled is the freedom of speech? Take this passage from Slate magazine: “In 2004, filmmaker Theo van Gogh was murdered after making anti-Muslim remarks, as was the anti-immigrant politician Pim Fortuyn in 2002. Why is there so much anti-Muslim rhetoric in the Netherlands?”

If Slate flipped those sentences, they’d have their answer. If there is any actual “anti-Muslim rhetoric” in the Netherlands, it is because those who dare to point out the outrages against human rights that Islamic law sanctions get murdered; and those who are still alive are vilified, marginalized, smeared, and put on trial – like Dutch politician and freedom fighter Geert Wilders, whose trial resumed Monday.

“I am on trial, but on trial with me is the freedom of expression of many Dutch citizens.” So said Wilders as his trial reopened in Amsterdam. Wilders faces a year in prison or a fine of up to 7,600 euros for supposedly inciting hatred against Muslims – which he has supposedly done by telling the truth about how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam themselves to incite hatred and violence against non-Muslims. If anyone should be on trial for “hate,” it should be the jihadist imams depicted in Wilders’ film Fitna – but in the hyper-politically correct Netherlands of today, the only offender is the non-Muslim who dared to call attention to the hatred they preach: Geert Wilders.

On Monday, after asserting that the freedom of expression of many Dutch citizens was on trial, Wilders continued: “I can assure you, I will continue proclaiming it.” He added: “I am sitting here as a suspect because I have spoken nothing but the truth. I have said what I have said and I will not take one word back, but that doesn’t mean I’ve said everything attributed to me.” Then he asserted the right to remain silent for the remainder of the proceedings — whereupon the presiding judge, Jan Moors, claimed that Wilders had gotten a reputation for making bold proclamations but then refusing to discuss them, saying that he was “good in taking a stand and then avoiding a discussion.” Moors added: “By remaining silent, it seems you’re doing that today as well.”

At that, Wilders’s attorney, Bram Moszkowicz, moved to have Moors removed for his bias, and the just-resumed trial ground to a halt. Wilders commented: “I thought I had a right to a fair trial, including the right to remain silent. It is scandalous that the judge passes comment on that. A fair trial is not possible with judges like that.”

A ruling will be made Tuesday on Moszkowicz’s motion, which, if granted, could delay the trial for months. But if the Dutch authorities had any sense of what is really at stake, they would drop all charges against Wilders and adjourn the trial for good. The Wilders trial is a turning point for the West: will Western authorities defend the hard-won principle of the freedom of speech as a bulwark against tyranny and the establishment of protected classes that enjoy rights that other citizens do not have, or will they – in the interests of suicidal political correctness — allow Islamic supremacists to obliterate that freedom in the interests of establishing in the West the Sharia principle that Islam is not to be questioned or criticized, especially by non-Muslims?

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  • Chezwick_Mac

    Geert Wilders is the Churchill of our time. All freedom-loving people are on trial right along side him.

    • Betsy

      You hit the nail dead on.

    • marat1

      Geert Wilders is indeed the Churchill of our time, but in his clarity, his insights–Churchill was not prosecuted or shut up by the British legal system and their was no pro-Nazi propaganda machine operating the way Islam does today to help "soften" the enemy–viz. all democracies. I have read and listened to Wilders extensively and he is ANYTHING but a hate monger. He will be revered by the Dutch as a true Humanist and as a Patriot who attempted to say what others feared to say. As it is, he is RISKING HIS LIFE for speaking out. Islam IS, in fact a Totalitarian and Fascist ideology and Islam would love nothing more than to murder him. My feeling is that it will take the First Radiological Islamic Terror bomb to wake up the sleeping masses in America. When 10,000, 20,000 or more lives are taken away in a flash by Muslim fascism, it will be a different world again. As it is, Obama just issued yet another statement that "We are not at war with Islam." What a total idiot, perhaps a Trojan Horse of Islam even (and I was NEVER a conspiracy theorist). How does he sleep when worldwide, the message from Islam is that they ARE at war. Hassan, the Ft. Hood murdering psychiatrist, had a business card with S.O.L. written on it–"Soldier of Islam." The Koran, as Bernard Lewis stated in a lecture I heard, "reads in part as a War Tract." Given that the Enemy is at war with us, what is Obama who denies a war doing in occupying the White House? Is he merely waiting for more carnage in America? Islamic Terror is absolutely Epidemic across the globe. But he cannot confront Iran…..or support Israel, whose VERY EXISTENCE is threatened, as a true ally. Or even support the victims their thousands of remaining family members and friends of the 9/11 attack. To him, its enough to mouth about "a few rotten apples." Muslim to the core….. He should have been impeached as a traitor to his nation.

    • Rick stanich

      All freedom loving people are NOT on trial along with Geert , for the simple fact that "All " or rather most "Freedom loving people " are just sitting on the sidelines as cheerleaders for people such as Geert , Robert , David , Pam, Walid , Etc. Etc.

      • Chezwick_Mac

        Well, I like to think we're all trying to do our little part in this great struggle for the soul of humanity. I've got a couple of songs out (with more to come); Bosch Fawstein does his cartoons; some of us make the effort to attend demonstrations; others at least continue appealing to friends and loved ones, trying to open their eyes.

        We do what we can. We could all probably do more. But you're absolutely right, David, Geert Wilders, Robert Spencer, Ibn Warraq, Noonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan, and many others…they're marked men and women. They've sacrificed everything. We owe them a profound debt of gratitude.

  • JosephMx

    The court blamed Wilders by suggesting he was "avoiding a discussion". But a discussion is a verbal clash between two )ore more) persons with a point of view, a point of view concerning content, in fact. Blaming Wilders in this manner, the court in fact admits that the court itself has taken a point of view concerning (religious) content, because that is the prerequisite of any discussion. So the court has placed itself out of order because (west) European states and their systems of law do not have opinions about (the content of) religions.

    • Wordcrunch991

      I think the irony in the judge's words is that he was speaking to the prisoner of state in a dock. How can have one an umimpeded discussion if one stands inculpated in a courtroom ? The judge cannot freely discuss as well – he is there to find facts and rule on law, not to engage in political speech. I am surprised that Wilders' counsel did not make a point in asking the judge to explain his remarks.

      • proto

        yes, this is indeed ironic and part of the political stunts that are arrayed against Geert Wilders and coordinated by the Christian Democrats.

        If the judge truly wanted to have a discussion he could have had it with Geert Wilders prior to the law case. The point is that the discussion was cut off by fabricating charges. Now to bully Geert into a discussion when he is no longer free to do so is an obscene stunt.

        The judge has let slip his bias but I fear it is not only one judge.
        Geert Wilders I stand with you!

        • JosephMx

          I agree with both, Wordcrinch&proto. I have to make an addition however. What happened today at the court was again unbelievable. As a part of the trial, "Fitna" (the movie) was shown again. One of the visitors left the room. The judge, mr Moors than remarked ostentatiously that he could understand that very well. (That movie is under trial also because it is said to be indulging etc.) That is not something that shows unbiasness, I should say.

          Dutch television, that is showing the whole trial did not transmit this movie, though.

          By the way, even the name of the person is ominous, "Moors" means "islamic" (Moorish), though he seems gay to me (in the first place in its meaning "licentious").

          PS: The trial is to resume next tuesday, if I understood it allright (I was half asleep then.) The accuser needs some 9 hours (s)he said, the defense needs some 12 hours, he said.

  • Cuban Refugee

    Freedom of speech and truth sit on the defendant's chair along with Geert Wilders. May he not become a modern-day martyr slaughtered for his convictions by the bloodthirsty, ravenous wolf pack whose blind faith and cruelty have reached a crescendo that threatens to destroy Western society. With useful idiots, like this biased judge and other liberals, facilitating Islam's path to conquering the remaining free world we all will soon be able to see Shariah from our kitchen windows. May God bless and protect the voice of freedom and light for our dark times, Geert Wilders.

    • Betsy

      Amazing comment. Wonderful!!

  • jim

    Q: Is there justification for burning Korans or drawing cartoons of Muhammad?
    A: YES! Those who burn Korans or draw cartoons of Muhammad are sending a message that free speech is sacred and free people are not going to allow Islamic intimidation to shut it down.

    Pamela, Robert, David, Geert, and others are great spokesmen for the effort to inform people of the dangers of Islam, and they have pointed out that we, the people, having the right to free speech, also have the right to draw cartoons of anything we want to, including the warrior Muhammad, as well as the right to burn anything we want to, including the right to burn Mein Kampf or my Koran.

    But, THEY ALSO NEED TO PROMOTE THE EXERCISE OF FREE SPEECH, draw Muhammad days, Koran burning days, an "International Free Speech Day", to remind free people that we must protect the freedom of speech. We're either in their face, or they're in our behinds. There can be no backing up or backing down.

    Here's a petition for an International Free Speech Day: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nationalfreesp

  • andres de alamaya

    Perhaps the rational right needs to find its own useful idiots who would kill a few super PCs. When they begin to realize that life becomes as dangerous on their side as that which faces down intifada then the survivors may begin to think differently, more realistically.

    • Chezwick_Mac

      You're advocating political murder. Not only would it be immoral, but it would bring us down to the level of our enemies. Please don't give ammunition to those who would wrongly insist that FPM is a hate site.

      • Jack

        The word "perhaps"…..Meaning "maybe"/"possibly"…does NOT advocate political murder of anyone and quite frankly those that call FPM a hate site do not need ammunition to spout their bile. The politically correct liberalsof the west are as much to blame for the continued hatred coming from the proponents of Islam and murders of the innocent as the vile animals they would defend against much deserved criticism. These self same idiots are continually pushing the "Islam is a Religion of Peace" crap with absolutely no knowledge of the subject except what the muslim propaganda machine feeds them…..IDIOTS every last one..

    • Triple_AAA

      Unfortunately we are not on the winning side right now in the public relations war against islam, if some crackpot were to do something crazy, as you suggest, we would be finished! You might want to ask, "When is it too late for public citizens to resist the islamic invasion through violent means if necessary?" We might not be there yet in the US, Europe, on the other hand, might have already passed this point! I do fear however that even if we were to know the answer, considering how brainwashed and apathetic our societies have become, we are toast! as the Borg like to say, "resistance is futile" …

  • Gil

    The outcome of this trial will determine whether our Western Civilization can be defended and eventually saved from within or see it ruined by moronicl laws. Therefore, depending of it (the verdict), we all will be able to ascertain the wisdom of our our penal code or deem it not just irrelevant but suicidal. If the latter, the only way out of the present legal logjam is to blow it up.
    El Cid

  • Johanne

    In Malmö Sweden a similar trial has just begun, against a local politician for publishing a poster showing Mohammed with Aisha as a little girl at the time of their 'marriage' – again, entirely truthful, but categorised by the authorities as hate speech… Hope you are watching this too…

    • suzanne

      Greet

    • frank

      Can you give me the string/reference on where to find it? Thanks

  • tanstaafl

    I have to agree with Pamela Geller – "Free speech is the new hate speech."

    • k9gs

      This works too….

  • tanstaafl

    Sorry – "Truth is the new hate speech."

    • Behemond

      The truth is, I hate islam because it is evil.

  • J.H.Y

    Freedom of expression is one of the most fundamental rights that individuals enjoy. It is fundamental to the existence of democracy and the respect of human dignity. It is also one of the most dangerous rights, because freedom of expression means the freedom to express one's discontent with the status quo and the desire to change it. As such, it is one of the most threatened rights, with governments – and even human rights groups – all over the world constantly trying to curtail it.
    Stand up! & never give up!
    Good luck Geert Wilders, You must win !

    • Pissed-off Irishman

      Agreed! the generation of my parents risked their lives, many of the lost their lives too, in order to defend our right to freedom of speech, during WW II. The Dutch especially, made many sacrifices for this. It must be heart-rending to have to watch it being squandered by a bunch of Quislings.
      Go for it Geert!

  • Eric Maher

    I admire Robert Spencer and I admire Geert Wilders.

    But I wish this essay would show us what are the specific charges against Wilders, and show us what are the laws that encroach on freedom of speech.

    Similarly, Mark Steyn was put on trial recently in Canada for publishing magazine articles that criticized Islam.

    Freedom of speech is better protected (legally) in America.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6zzdNRysgs Doom

    Please see also the statement Geert Wilders made in court:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6zzdNRysgs

    • k9gs

      Wow! Somehow the "chairman" reminds me of a nazi from WWII, he has the look.

      Prayers 24/7 for Mr. Wilders. I hope his attorney is kick ass.

  • Michael

    When will the Planet wake up . If the Netherlands judges convict Wilders they will have opened the door for Islamic domination of their country. Sharia will Rule. All females will be required to wear Burkas or Hijabs . Islam will be the soup de jour of that nation. A Cordoba Mosque will be erected (100 stories tall) . Bibles and Torahs will be baned. The "Christ Pissed' artist will be given the Islamic Nobel Peace Prize. Obama will make a special trip to worship at the grand opening of the new 100 story Mosque. Infidel Genicide is continuing to snowball. Convert or Die . It is Armenia revisited.
    Denial is the paved path to Insanity and the Netherlands is jogging it with gusto.
    American Christian Infidel
    Michael Canzano

  • NazirBhatti

    Trial of Geert is alarming for peace loving nations: Mr. Geert was struggling to show true face of radical Islam: Radical Islam preaches Violence leading to Terrorism: There is no Moderate Muslim or enlightened Islam because Islam demands Submission for Peace: There are Moderate Muslim when in Minority and opposite where in Majority: Muslims are killing Christians, setting on fire Churches and Bibles in Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq and other Islamic States: Islamic Clerics are delivering hate speeches and Sermons to call Christians Indifels in Mosques around globe: Who will file case against them to spread Hate against Christians????

    • Behemond

      That´s what islam has been doing since the days of mohammed.

  • jacob

    While athorities like this Dutch judge, the New York mayor and our own President do not consider Islam a threat, we are condemned to be overun by it… and it won't take long before, as in England, Sharia is accepted and introduced in our courts…

    The danger in or own backyards is proven by the way that FBI woman superiors treated
    her report about the very suspicious way MOHAMMED ATTA and his team were plane flying training

  • RiverFred

    Support Geert and donate at his official website (geertwilders.com.) The conversion is in euros, if for example you donate $50.00 the conversion will be approx. $70.00 U.S.

  • Proudscott

    we protect peoples right to burn the flag, place a crucifix in urine, make a naked chocolate mother mary for people to eat, and then we have to live with the threat, and reality of murder by Islam. Hmmmmm, and Christians are the loonies???

    • Pellaeon

      Yes, Christians are loonies for putting up with it. So are non-religious people, by the way :)

  • ObamaYoMoma

    In essence the freedom of speech and truth are being put on trial in the Netherlands. If Wilders loses this trial, it will leave us all defenseless, as it will open up the door for Islam to subsume the West with impunity.

  • http://1389blog.com 1389AD

    Thanks again for your ongoing support of Geert Wilders and freedom of expression for the counterjihad!

    If any of your readers have not yet viewed Geert Wilders' Fitna, The Movie, it is being hosted here:
    http://1389blog.com/2010/10/04/geert-wilders-tria

  • POLITICALOBSERV

    What would happen if a ralley was held, and whatever words for which Wilders is being charged was repeated by speakers over and over and then surrendered themselve to the Dutch for prosecution. 100 or 1,000.
    Wilders could also allow us to sign on as "Co-Producers" and also take credit for Fitna.

    "I am Sparticus"

  • Behemond

    Though this time armed with nuces and nervgas!

  • Theo Goodwin

    Randy writes: "There will again be an influx of intelligent, productive, and free-spirited Europeans fleeing the loss of democracy in Europe and its barbarian insurgency." I have friends, a wonderful family from England, who have been trying to emigrate to the USA for years. They want to move their lucrative business here. Unfortunately, because they are unwilling to enter illegally, they have no hope of getting in for the forseeable future.

  • watchful

    First, when the news that Obama was giving $20M to help Palestinians (read Hamas) relocate there was a weak outcry. Quickly it was explained that he didn't mean here, in the U.S., but somewhere. Now they are using the same $20M to bring them here. Why does America need to spend $20M to relocate these killers here in the land of the free?

    I feel there is more going on in our government chambers than we will ever know. I think we have been sold out. A one world government and a one world religion perhaps?

    The new caliphate will be our "electoral" elite.

  • DutchCC

    Thanks for all the support and admiration I feel on this website for the dire predicament of my fellow-Dutchman and brave Islamcritic mr. Wilders.
    My sentiments are the same as yours about this great Dutchman. This politician who is seen by our liberal and dhimmi establisment as the greatest threat to our rule of law, since Hitler invaded the Netherlands in 1940.

    I will gladly describe the developments surrounding Wilders politiek trial in more detail for my non-Dutch fellow-Islamcritics another time.

    Yours truly,
    DutchCC

    • proto

      Yes, indeed this is a critical trial. I hope more Dutch wake up and demonstrate against this unjust, political-stunt trial even if they might not agree with Geert Wilders.

      I am heartened to see that many American here realise the importance of Geert Wilders winning this trial and that a conviction will have negative impacts in the US on the fight against left-wing fascists (read Pelosi and co) and their blood brothers the islamo-fascists.

      Geert Wilders, we stand with you!

    • k9gs

      How much of the Dutch population supports Mr. Wilders?

      I agree, he is BRAVE. It is amazing how low the politicians will go when their power is threatened. Ya'll need a Tea Party.

  • Liberty Clinger

    “If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” George Washington

  • posse101

    everybody loves guys who stand up for free speech until someone actually stands up for freedom and faces the slings and arrows of outrageous opposition. when the minister in Florida wanted to burn the koran it's amazing how spineless many conservatives became claiming that we should never burn the "Holy" Koran, regardless of the reason. well the entire issue wasn't about burning a religious book… it was about not losing the freedom to do so. lot's of Americans missed that point. with that type of wishy washy effort we are bound to lose this war. just what the Democrats are hoping for.

  • k9gs

    Interesting. Unfortunately the muslims will migrate w/them, so unless something done w/islam it won't be much help.

  • American

    I tried to post something but it was deleted by the administrator,censorship is FAST.

  • mikestjames

    “But again and again there comes a time in history when the man who dares to say that two and two make four is punished with death.”
    –Camus (The Plague)

  • posse101

    everybody loves guys who stand up for free speech until someone actually stands up for freedom and faces the slings and arrows of outrageous opposition. when the minister in Florida wanted to burn the koran it's amazing how spineless many conservatives became claiming that we should never burn the "Holy" Koran

  • DianaT

    Wish there are more people like Geert Wilders to awaken the minds of people being threatened by islamisation. Jan Moors is just one big coward to this free world.

  • PAthena

    See Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book NOMAD for her account of Dutch politics. (She was a member of the Dutch parliament.) According to her, a group she calls the "regenten" are an elite group that try to control Dutch politics. It may be that the Dutch ministry putting Geert Wilders on trial is part of this group.

  • 1389AD

    Gates of Vienna has updates on the Geert Wilders trial and the Dutch government from its European correspondents:
    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

  • 1389AD

    At this point, I'd be ready for a Constitutional amendment putting Geert Wilders in as US President for the next eight years. It's about time we had a president who knows who our friends are and who our enemies are.

  • tagalog

    I'll settle for Baldwin IV.