Wilders: One Step Closer to Victory


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Friday came the good news: Amsterdam public prosecutors Birgit van Roessel and Paul Velleman declared Dutch freedom fighter Geert Wilders not guilty of discrimination against Muslims and inciting hatred against them. But his trial continues: the prosecutors’ decision is not final. A judge will issue a ruling on November 5, and he doesn’t have to follow the prosecutors’ recommendations. So the freedom of speech still hangs in the balance in the Netherlands, as well as in Europe and the West in general.

Nonetheless, van Roessel and Velleman brought an unexpected bit of common sense to this ridiculous and ominous show trial. Regarding Wilders’ much-trumpeted call to ban the Koran, the prosecutors said, according to Dutch News, that “comments about banning the Koran can be discriminatory, but because Wilders wants to pursue a ban on democratic lines, there is no question of incitement to discrimination ‘as laid down in law.’”

Many of Wilders’ critics, and even some who would otherwise support his stand for human rights against the discrimination and oppression of Sharia, have professed to find an inconsistency in Wilders’ defense of the freedom of speech and call to ban the Koran. However, in this Wilders was actually calling upon Dutch authorities to be consistent themselves: the Netherlands has “hate speech” laws, under which Mein Kampf is banned. Wilders said in the Dutch Parliament that “the Koran is a book that incites to violence,” and that “the distribution of such texts is unlawful according to Article 132 of our Penal Code.” If Mein Kampf could be banned under that article, why not another book that manifestly incites its readers to violence and hatred?

I myself don’t support “hate speech” laws or the banning of any book. While there is no justification for speech that is genuinely and legitimately hateful — racial slurs, etc., “hate speech” laws are simply tools in the hands of those who are entrusted with deciding what constitutes “hate speech” in the first place: the powerful can all too easily use them to label their opposition “hateful” and thereby silence dissent. But as long as the Netherlands has such laws, Dutch authorities should not apply them selectively, and Wilders is not self-contradictory in standing up for the freedom of speech while calling for these laws to be applied consistently, not in a self-serving and politically manipulative manner.

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  • weRscrewed

    They can try but they cannot put ALL of us in Jail at the same time.
    New purpose for a National Mall Rally.
    Time to call their bluff Before this gets too serious. Look at the examples we have from Europe and do not be fooled WE R NEXT. I think the Mosque at Ground Zero is a good place to make an initial stand against what we know is coming to a Theatre near each of US. Sharia/Islam and the USA cannot co-exist, they are mutually exclusive.

    • barny

      FREE SPEECH? you mean you say what you like about the Jewish Holocaust and not be jailed in Europe today? You mean you can think for yourself? You can make your own conclusions? You can weigh up the facts yourself? Without being jailed? Censored? Banned? Fined? Persceuted? Hated?

      Hey! Geert doesn't support this right to free speech…he is a hypocrite! Why are Jew above the law?

      Why can't we mock Jews and insult their faith like we can with Moslems? Why? What's the big deal?

      Until Wilders upholds this view, (that we can mock/insult ALL RELIGIONS/FAITHS) then it is FREE SPEECH.

      Being a zionist Goy, Gentile asslicker will get you lots of points on Frontpagemag, but does it make you a better patriot of AMERICA?

      Rather, you support Israel – whether you did or didn't…you support the ZIONIST cause, not the cause for FREEDOM.

      geert is no champion of FREEDOM, but achampion of the ZIONIST (ISRAELI) cause.

      PERIOD.

  • http://apollospaeks.townhall.com ApolloSpeaks

    IS PAM GELLER THE NEW MEIR KAHANE?

    Should America's rabbis feel embarrassed by Pam Geller and condemn her as the new "racist Meir Kahane" for her "anti-Moslem" activities as Jeff Goldberg is urging them to do?

    Click my name and read my piece on the subject and judge for yourself.

    • Beverley

      ApolloSpeaks – that is what is so sad about the Jewish people. When people like Pam Geller, yourself and myself try to warn them about the danger they face … they do not listen. They can be so pigheaded. This must have happened in Germany when the Nazi took over, they will not listen to the 'Watchman on the Walls' for the house of Israel.

      Love your blog.

      • WildJew

        Some Jews did not / will not listen; not all Jews are not listening. Pamella Geller is also Jewish.

        • Beverley

          I know Pamella is Jewish but I am speaking about a lot of my Jewish friends who are Leftist.

      • barny

        Jews… have been hated for over 3000 years. 6 million were incinerated just over 50 years ago in civilzed Europe.

        Many more are about to face the consequences soon…as they have not learnt from the grave errors of their long histroy in exile, as refugees, as immigrants, vagabonds, homeless, landless, In the Wilderness, wanderers. Restless!Apeople who nobody wants. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

        people who have been expelled from every country they lived in, in every country they were welcomed to, given trust and friendship. But no! They, being haughty and mischeivous (as is in their nature) treated their host as GOY (FILTHY GENTILE) and wanted trouble (they are known TROUBLE CAUSERS).

        In the USA today, the main trouble causers are jews/ZIONISTS (Geller,Horowitz) their alliance and loyalties are with IREL, not the USA.

        Beat the drums of hatred as hard and as loudas you like… but history is about to repeat itself!

        You never did learn. You will NEVER attain peace.

    • WildJew

      You are right about Jeff Goldberg I think. He appears to not be a proud Jew. On the late Rabbi Kahane, I am not a Kahanist. Nevertheless, I think you characterization of the rabbi is a bit off the mark. You may be put off by Kahane's style; his passion. I have listened to some of Kahane's speeches. I have read some of his writings. There are videos available on-line. Generally, I recall Kahane referred to "Arabs" as opposed to Muslims. Back then, Islam was not the focus of attention it is today. In Kahane's day, many believed the conflict in the Middle East was political, not religious. Your statement that non-Jews are treated as second class citizens in the Torah is not accurate. Judaism is not Islam.

      • barny

        Then who is GENTILE???

        Who is GOY???

        Your history is written below… you cannot hide from this fact – you have been cursed for over 3000 years, what makes you think you will see PEACE now?
        NEVER!

        "Satan, being thus confined to a vagabond, wandering, unsettled condition, is without any certain abode; for though he has, in consequence of his angelic nature, a kind of empire in the liquid waste or air, yet this is certainly part of his punishment, that he is . . . without any fixed place, or space, allowed him to rest the sole of his foot upon."

        Daniel Defoe, The History of the Devil

    • Jim Johnson

      I Lost track of Rabbi Meier Kahane a long time ago. But when I paid attention to him he seemed like one of the more rational people on the political scene.
      He was called on to investigate the John Birch society and reported back that they were no danger to any one even though he said he couldn't understand how they could believe what they did. I think the instigators of the investigation wanted him to call them Nazis.

      He rightfully understood the necessity for the Vietnam war as it pertained to Israel
      He rightfully said that Dershowitz's views on marriage were based on Race (ethnicity) and not on Gods Will and as such Dershowitz was really a racist.

      He had enough fight in him to form the JDL to protect Jews in Brooklyn from assaults.

      I do not know what happened to him after those early days but I think he got killed.

  • Beverley

    The only hate speech and discrimination comes from Islam.

    • barny

      Jews… have been hated for over 3000 years. 6 million were incinerated just over 50 years ago in civilzed Europe.

      Many more are about to face the consequences soon…as they have not learnt from the grave errors of their long histroy in exile, as refugees, as immigrants, vagabonds, homeless, landless, In the Wilderness, wanderers. Restless!Apeople who nobody wants.
      http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

      people who have been expelled from every country they lived in, in every country they were welcomed to, given trust and friendship. But no! They, being haughty and mischeivous (as is in their nature) treated their host as GOY (FILTHY GENTILE) and wanted trouble (they are known TROUBLE CAUSERS).

      In the USA today, the main trouble causers are jews/ZIONISTS (Geller,Horowitz) their alliance and loyalties are with IREL, not the USA.

      Beat the drums of hatred as hard and as loudas you like… but history is about to repeat itself!

      You never did learn. You will NEVER attain peace.

    • barny

      "Satan, being thus confined to a vagabond, wandering, unsettled condition, is without any certain abode; for though he has, in consequence of his angelic nature, a kind of empire in the liquid waste or air, yet this is certainly part of his punishment, that he is . . . without any fixed place, or space, allowed him to rest the sole of his foot upon."

      Daniel Defoe, The History of the Devil

  • InfidelHere

    Islam means "peace" IF…and this is a HUGE "IF" when one "submits and surrenders" to their (sharia) way of life and their moon-god-allah. If you don't buy into their allah and life style, THERE IS NO PEACE.

    Never has, is, nor will be.

    Wilders has demonstrated that the koran itself qualifies as "hate" speech as over 60% of the koran itself deals with how non-muslims are to be converted, enslaved, taxed, punished, fought and yes…KILLED! I applaud him for simply telling the world that there is a "white elephant" in the room and the free world MUST address it!

    Islam and FREEDOM do not go together. The time to say so is NOW and I support Wilders and commend him for saying what most infidels like me have always believed.

    • billionOhindus

      Hey, white elephants are benign. They may eat a lot but do no harm. They are noble and majestic. And intelligent.
      Incorrect comparison.

  • http://www.pentagramz.info David Catleugh

    The more I learn about Islam, the more it worries me. Probably just as well for my stress levels that I can't speak Arabic.

    • barny

      ROBERT SPENCER doesn't/can't speakARABIC, yet he is a a "scholar" of Islam?!

      WTF!!!

      This tells me tht only a moron follows such a fail.

      We in Europe laugh at Americans for being such dumbasses.

  • Atlas_Collins

    Islam Delenda Est!

  • Éamonn

    Excellent news from Holland! And the equally good news is that the slumbering continent, Europe, is just about beginning to awaken and dust itself down. Angela Merkel yesterday had a few honest words to say about multikulti and Islam. The European politicians are just starting to understand that the man and woman in the street will take only so much of their way of life and their nationhood being taken from them. We want a SOCIETY, not an economy at the expense of traditional, national society. WE don't only want it, we DEMAND it. And now that we are beginning to get restless and active about this, the politicians will act to save their own skins. Vive la revolution! And Thank You, America, for leading the way. Éamonn, Dublin, Ireland.

  • http://www.LifesHaven.net GaryMcAleer

    Geert Wilder is given no honor in the United States television media. His wise and rational thinking, based on the Koran's tenets commanding world subjugation to Sharia law (whose history is responsible for the murder of an estimated 250 million people) explains why peace loving Muslims hold no rallies, no protests, no rebuke of those who advocate detonating a nuclear warhead in any land of the so-called infidels. What I find most noteworthy are the civil wars taking place within Islam. With this factual basis, even if they succeeded in Mohammed's grand plan of world subjugation they would still kill each other off until only the most ruthless were left. This the base character of these men! King of the Hill!—That's all this is.

    • billionOhindus

      Indeed, back to before the stone age!

      • barny

        hindoo people! Accept Christ, you follow the demon Krishna.

        We need more missionaries in India to civilize you fella's

    • barny

      Dude, America was created through violence and mass genocide. 6 Million jews were incinerated in modern Europe, this is to do with Islam?

      The worlds most brbaric atrocities were committed here in Europe, by Europeans…you can hide your (red) neck in the sand, but the truth is that we have committed more crimes against humanity than ny moslem. Stalin? Hitler? Mao? Pol Pot? The Spanish Conquistadors, Mass genocides, pillage.rape, Slavery, The BLACK HOLOCAUST, LYNCHING! THE CIVIL RIGHT S MOVEMENT! etc, etc…they were moslem???

      Hey! check this out! http://www.muslimheritage.com/

      awesome site!

      • http://www.LifesHaven.net GaryMcAleer

        Barny, don't say I'm a redneck. That summation is cruel and thoughtless. Do you know the cheers that swept through Islamic countries on 9/11? The rejoicing, the dancing, giving Allah the praise for his vengeance against the infidels using suicide bombers who went to their deaths falsely believing a great reward awaits them? Was I addressing the sins of Europe or of America in my statement? Did you expect me to cover the swath of injustices throughout world history? Bro, I only addressed what I was convicted of, concerning Mr. Robert Spencer's article, nothing more! Yes, I agree with your appraisal of human nature, but the issue you raised is a doctoral dissertation, and this limited website is not the place for any exhaustive explanation. If you desire that, go to the following link: it gives a concise summation of our dilemma here in this world: http://www.LifesHaven.net

  • Fred Dawes

    I am happy! its ood news it was on savage nation last week but its good to read about freedom fighters winning, about jihad watch i love it i cannot post on it but i do understand that you can't always tell the full truth os how evil the muslim is, just call me the real Infidel and you don't want o know what i feel about that evil koran and that@@@@@ muhammad guy who raped boys and little girls that rat was and is right from hell and the people who follow that evil are evil.

  • Michael

    It is too late for Europe. Islam has been systematically given a strong hold through the adoption of "Political Correctness" and "Muliculturism". Both being one way streets for the progression of Islam. Read Mark Steyn's "America Alone." They (Islam) are winning by demographics. Europe cannot sustain because its native birth rate will eventually eliminate the natives. The future is at best bleek for Infidels. Islam is the Planets Cancer.
    American Christian Infidel
    Michael Canzano

  • InfidelHere

    Wilder is right. The koran qualifies as hate speech, despite the best intentions of muslim apologists and appeasers. You call out all of the hate in the koran and the PC focus is on you…never one of the main reasons why "good" muslims act as they do!
    .
    Their holiest book of Islam (which is 61% of which is about non-Muslims) draws the sharpest of distinctions between muslims and non-believers, lavishing praise on the former while condemning the latter. Don't believe muslims when they tell you islam is about "universal love", the koran incessantly preaches the inferiority of non-Muslims, even comparing them to vile animals and gloating over Allah's hatred of them and his dark plans for their eternal torture. Naturally, the harsh treatment of non-believers by Muslims is encouraged as well.

  • flowerknife_us

    Geert was not charged with libel so the truth was not an issue.

    If the Dutch Court affirms the validity of Wilder's statements being true and uses that to convict him for hate speech, does it not confirm the hostility Islamic scripture has for them as well???

    Mr. Wilder's has not been accused of lying about Islam.

    No doubt-Turning the expressing of truth into a criminal offense is bad enough Affirming the truth to use that truth to prove one guilty of using the truth is far bigger threat than just the loss of free speech. The Court is really denying any defense to it's own citizens from religious practices it openly recognizes as hostile to its own existence.

    I guess it's one thing to go to jail for talking about the depredations of islam.

    Next will come the incarceration of those poor souls who actually fall prey to them.

    If you cannot talk about it without punishment. What makes anyone think you would be allowed to hang around after experiencing it?

    Just how many Anne Franks can the Dutch support? Who shall their Diaries record as being the ones they held out hope to for redress that never showed up?