Imam Rauf on Israel’s Destruction


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Newly discovered statements by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the man behind the Ground Zero mosque project, show he supports the destruction of Israel. His supporters may hold him up as a moderate, but he has spoken out in favor of a “one-state solution” to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and he sees peace agreements with Israel as a means to that end.

And I personally — my own personal analysis tells me that a one-state solution is a more coherent one than a two-state solution,” Imam Rauf told an audience in July 2005. The phrase “one-state solution” is often used by Islamic extremists to advocate the destruction of Israel, especially by those parading as moderates. It is said with the knowledge that any “one-state solution” would result in the Jews being outnumbered in their own land, replacing Israel with a Muslim state called Palestine.

A letter to the editor written by Imam Rauf on November 27, 1977 puts to rest any doubt that Rauf could have been misinterpreted. In it, he wrote that he supports Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel, but only because it would ultimately bring victory over Israel. He reminds Muslims that Muhammad received similar resistance to his own peace treaty with their enemies but “peace turned out to be a most effective weapon against the unbeliever.”

“Muhammad used that period to consolidate his ranks and re-arm, eventually leading to his conquest of Mecca. Imam Rauf seems to be saying that Muslims should understand Sadat’s olive branch in the same way, as a short-term respite to ultimate conquest,” explained the Wall Street Journal in its breaking of the story.

Imam Rauf stated that there will not be peace until Israel ceases to exist. He says that Israel is destined to collapse and “In a true peace, Israel will, in our lifetimes, become one more Arab country, with a Jewish minority.”

To this day, Rauf has not said that Israel has a right to exist and has chosen to work with those dedicated to the country’s elimination. He has refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist group, saying “I am a peace builder. I will not allow anybody to put me in a position where I am seen by any party in the world as an adversary or as an enemy.” He has also involved himself with the Muslim Brotherhood, the parent organization of Hamas that is dedicated to destroying Israel and bringing the world under Shariah Law.

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, the founder of the American-Islamic Forum for Democracy, opposes Imam Rauf’s project partially because of his reluctance to confront the Muslim Brotherhood. He points out that Rauf describes top Brotherhood theologian Sheikh Yousef al-Qaradawi as a “moderate” in his book despite his history of anti-Semitism, endorsement of suicide bombings and Hamas, support for the killing if U.S. soldiers in Muslim lands, and calls for Muslims to wage jihad against Israel until it’s destroyed.

“You now lecture Americans that WTC mosque protests are ‘politically motivated’ and ‘go against the American principle of church and state.’ Yet you ignore the wide global prevalence of far more dangerous theo-political groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and all of its violent and nonviolent offshoots,” Jasser writes.

The Center for Security Policy’s Christine Brim revealed that Rauf’s Cordoba Institute had deleted websites about its Shariah Index Project to rate the compliance of each country with Islamic law. The websites described how individuals affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood had been involved, with the International Institute for Islamic Thought (IIIT) playing a particularly close role. The IIIT is listed in the Muslim Brotherhood’s own documents as one of its fronts and its Vice President, Jamal Barzinji, chaired one meeting in November 2008 where Rauf’s book was officially released.

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  • jacob

    And to this piece of work had HILLARY CLINTON the shamelessness to make sort of an State Dept. envoy, endowing him with $65,000 traveling expenses taxpayer's money to
    gather funds for his supermosque ???

    How come Congress has keept mum on the issue ??

  • Andres de Alamaya

    Rauf is representative of all of Islam's Trojan Horses that we have in America and in the State Department that sponsors him and in the White House, too. What was the title of that book by Horace McCoy? They made a movie out of it with Jane Fonda. About horses.

  • Mike Elmore

    Yes, eveything about Imam Rauf is true. So quite saying he has a legal right to build the mosque but it just needs to be built some where else. Until the 70% of people who think Terry Jones shouldn't burn the Koran change their view of Islam then this fight is going no where. The race is on, get educated soon or we are all going to need to learn sharia law. Great article and thank you Ryan for being one of the teachers. sincerly grateful.. Mike Elmore

    • DavidM

      One thing that is encouraging me is that I keep seeing lots of good ole americans like myself who hate what they see going on with all this stupid Muslim stuff. It's encouraging to see so many of my fellow americans getting sick and tired of Islam's sneeky ways and them infiltrating our country in order to destroy it. Let's help this wave of enlightenment and rage to keep growing and maybe we can eventually kick the crap out of Islam and kick it out of our continent for good!

  • Cuban Refugee

    The two-faced Imam Rauf is a most-welcome and congruous addition to Obama's Amerika. The horror of 9/11 will be perpetuated with evil come to our doorstep in the form of a "community center" run by an unholy, devious man who desires our destruction and the obliteration of Israel. With this latest travesty, it can now be confirmed that we are living in the Bizarro World — a parallel universe in which dark is light, good is bad, the Constitution is an old rag, and our system of government is brought down before our eyes in order to give birth to a new nation founded on the abominable principles of Sharia Law.

  • MBA NJ

    I am shocked to my soul that America allows traitors to come into our houses and defile all that we stand for. They have become so numbed with important items, I guess, that they now pay attention to media celebrities more so than the very survival of what they need and would want, but for the silly distractions. How dare we pay for someone's travel for evil, how dare we allow euphemisms such as Final Solution or One-State-Solution to blithely camouflage truth. Wake up America because it is almost too late. I am a Catholic, for the record, and one who does not recognize the absurd delusion of the usurper saying that he is a Christian without real baptism–he thought it and that was good enough for him. Someone should have slapped him as a child when he told lies, but I guess Kenyans can run fast, I dunno….

  • TeachESL

    This is the best article I've read which unmasks this man!

  • suzanne

    What should we Americans expect? So far Muslims around the world have shown about zero remorse for their behavior and about the same for change. The ones that do have a death threat hanging over them. I don't for a second doubt that if Muslims got their hands on Israel they'd turn it into another Nazi hell hole.

  • moshav

    rauf is a liar and a fraud who is ripping off the American taxpayers and who is relentless in applying sharia law to New York. His islamic center will be crammed with fanatical followers of the pedophile muhamad, hatred of non-muslims will be preached in the mosque, the swimming pool will be segregated, and we will have the first neighborhood in what will become New Yorkistan,

  • SeaMystic

    Thanks again for a great item of information! In our future battle to keep Democracy alive, we must stop the immigration of Muslims, in our various Democracies.
    We must institute THE DEATH PENALTY for all who Plan, Finance or Attempt MASS MURDER in Mohammeds stated cause, Islam. Make sure the DEATH PENALTY INCLUDES IMPURE SUBSTANCES such as PIGS BLOOD for their denial of the BORDELLO as per their Demonic Belief System.
    Stop Mosque building now, they are the modern Trojan Horse to destroy our Democracy.
    Fine and Close all Mosques that foster Jihad against our Societies.
    Place a Poll tax on all Muslims who will not renounce Islam, and follow Mohammed's word of Hatred of all so called Infidels, to off set our Security Costs in stopping Islam's Mass Murder, in our Lands.

    • ziontruth

      For any nation-state that wishes to survive, both Marxism and Islam need to be criminalized. Not to belittle its menace, but Islam is just an opportunistic attacker, while it is the AIDS of Marxism that gives the attacker the ability to fell nation-states without even firing a shot (see: Demographic Jihad).

  • RiverRat2U

    If Islam would quit waving the sword at Isreal they could in a very short time vote the Jews out of office in their own country. Demographics and the right to multiple wives along with several children places Islam on the rise in Isreal or any other country. Islam has been filling the spiritual void created by Marxist Ideology and the rejection of Christianity in Western Civilization.

    • Jerry

      Polygamy is the source of Islamic aggression. Young healthy Muslim men cannot marry because there are insufficient women available. Thus, they are frustrated and seek their satisfaction in Jannah, Muslim heaven. Thus, Muslim society is constructs zero-sum games where you are either a winner or a loser. Westerners know that life can be constructed as a win-win game – technological progress, vocational training, wealth production through industrialization, etc. Not so for Muslims, where nothing can be given without losing and "taking" is defined as victory.

      • kafir4life

        Part of it too is that there has never been a case of a muslim man sexually satisfying any female (goats not included). This caused muslim women to seek sexual satisfaction with non-muslims, which they did often and with zeal. Of course this outraged the men, and it was decided that if muslim men weren't capable of satisfying women, that allah the moon god, invented by the peodophile mohamad, decreed that no muslim women should enjoy sex, and FGM was invented.

    • ziontruth

      Your observation regarding the Demographic Jihad has less currency for Israel, as Israel is becoming more religious, and religious Jews like most other religious tend to have large families. Even so, your observation is generally correct, and that is why I advocate the exclusivist single-nation state. The well-functioning state will protect its nation from demographic threat by denying political rights to all non-nationals and deporting any non-nationals who refuse to accept that the state is not theirs.

      (Yes, I accept those terms for myself as well. I'd have no problem with, say, the government of Thailand telling me that as a non-Thai I have no political rights. It's all fine as long as I have a nation-state of my own.)

  • Brooklyn

    I am a moderate and i just want to say LIBERALS are the worst thing that has ever happend to america. They wouldnt care if this guy sent al quida money. It doesnt matter to them. And to think that at one point in my life i thought obama would be an OK president. BOY was i wrong

    • ramona

      I am a Republican, i was thinking Obama was the better one, my Children warned me. They were right,Obama has deceived the American People, he made it on the younger votes who did not any better so to speak.America is Cursed now because of Obama, he is a Muslim and tricked the People. How can Americans (Christians) live with Musilims? this is impossible. The Bible talks about the one who does not protect Israel,we are cursed from Obama. we need to keep the Faith and Pray.

  • flyingtiger

    Rauf just wants to be the next Osama bin Laden.

  • http://www.lifeshaven.net Gary McAleer

    Upwards of 10,000 people came to demonstrate against the proposed Cordoba Center about a month ago. Not one major news agency reported except Radio Netherlands Worldwide! You won't hear from American news agencies how in the 8th century Islam invaded Cordoba, captured it and turned its church into a victory mosque. There are so many undertones of world domination in this proposed mosque. But here's the heart of it: In the 6th & 7th centuries 2 new and insanely selfish religions rose to power: Catholicism and Islam: the Pope and Mohamed; and the bloody competition began. Both united with civil magistrates to impose penalties of confiscation of property and death on all who stood in their way. And nothing has changed to this day concerning their mutual goal of destroying the US Constitution and thus take the throne of civilization. To them, America is anathema! Then you have the demonization of those who oppose Islam's momentum of sharia law and other social degradations of our society. Men like Ari Melber used the term "insurgent groups" to describe Rand Paul and others who are gaining in the political arena. His terminology shows his preference and his willingness to associate this political momentum as being synonymous with militant Islam, terrorism, and murder. Even the facial expressions and key words let you know these commentators will openly slander YOU if you stand against them! They attempt to come off as unbiased, but in the end you can see just how much they despise true justice as Jesus so wisely warned, "Ye shall know them by their fruits."

    • Bill Wade

      Gary,
      Wow you have done your research as few understand the competition between Catholism and Islam in the 6th and 7th century. Both religions believed in converting or killing the infidels and I can state that from the viewpoint of being a Catholic for 38 years.
      At this stage of my life, I believe Islam is the greatest threat to mankind in all of history. Any faithful Muslim who reads and believes the Quran there is no middle ground as its either convert or kill the infidel. I consider all Islam to be a threat to civilization and my enemy and am prepared to deal with the threat.

  • wendy

    you know and i know ,that not one goverment cares about us or what we say .There big aim is world goverment.at this stage we can see the whole world changing before our eyes DAILY.

  • http://www.islamicreform.org Edip Yuksel

    Interesting. Perform a few twists and somersaults and you have a bandwagon of people :)
    The reporter digs in and finds a statement made by Mr. Rauf. The statement purportedly critical of Israel goes back all the way to 1977! Yes, 33 Years back, when Rauf was a teenager or in his early twenties! Since then, Israel committed many atrocities and killed thousands of Palestinian children, destroyed thousands of houses, stole towns, kidnapped and tortured so many. Since then, Nelson Mandela and Carter and many other non-Muslim peacemakers criticized and condemned Israel repeatedly.

    If this guy's only statement against Israel was in 1977, then this guy is a Zionist stooge, a person with no conscience and sense of justice! Besides, suggesting one-state solution is not necessarily an anti-Israeli position. Some prominent Jewish leaders and authors have also promoted such a solution, such as Tony Judt of New York University, Daniel Gavron of Israel. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-state_solution

    As for the distortion about Muhammad's conquest of Mecca.. It is no surprise either. The Meccans killed and evicted many Muslims and attacked them thrice in their peaceful city of Yathrib (I know, now someone will find a fabricated hadith to assert otherwise). Then, they lost the support of many who embraced the message of Islam (Peace). Muhammad entered Mecca peacefully and the first thing he did was to declare amnesty for the murderers and aggressors! The author is obviously not honest and confuses propaganda with historical account.

    • Anonymous

      You truly believe the drivel that you're spouting?!!? "Since then, Israel committed many atrocities and killed thousands of Palestinian children, destroyed thousands of houses, stole towns, kidnapped and tortured so many"
      Are you INSANE??!!! Israel isn't blowing up innocent women and children in pizza shops and discotheques. Israel isn't lobbing rockets into towns while hiding behind their women and children and using civilians as human shields. Israel never sneaked into a house and killed the women and children while they slept in bed. Israel doesn't teach children to strap bombs to their bodies and throw stones at soldiers. PALESTINIANS do.

      Shut up.

    • ziontruth

      Ah, here's our Turkish troll once again. You may have heard, but Turkey has stepped yet another notch into Islamic hell.

      "Since then, Israel committed many atrocities and killed thousands of Palestinian children,"

      You might want to tell the brave Muslim warriors to stop hiding among the women and children, then.

      "…stole towns,…"

      A definitional impossibility, as the Jews are the indigenous people of Palestine. The indigenous cannot steal their own land. It is the Arab settler-colonist invaders who are the land-thieves.

      "Besides, suggesting one-state solution is not necessarily an anti-Israeli position."

      Yeah, right. And if I had suggested in the third quarter of the 19th century that the Italians could do without a state, I wouldn't necessarily be anti-Italian. Right? Wrong!

      ("What about the right of the Palestinians to a state?" The Palestinians, meaning the Jews, have a right to a state. The Arabs already have 22 states well beyond their indigenous land, the Arabian Peninsula.)

      (contd.)

    • ziontruth

      (contd.)

      "Some prominent Jewish leaders and authors have also promoted such a solution, such as Tony Judt of New York University, Daniel Gavron of Israel."

      How unexpected, that "some prominent Jewish leaders and authors" should mean the usual examples of Jewish quislings.

      The One-State, or more accurately Binational, solution is a recipe for genocide. Genocide took place when peoples far less different from each other, those of Rwanda, found themselves sharing a state; in the scenario of Jews and Arabs sharing a state equally, the probability of genocide is asymptotic to 1.

      No shared states! The state as its nation's castle! Uninational, unicultural states only, with political rights only for members of the nation! Not because I'm a "racist" or all this Marxist claptrap, but because that's the only way to prevent the untold suffering that issues from putting groups of intractable difference under the same political framework. We design our operating systems to wall off processes so they don't take each other down, then how much more so do we need to do the same for humans, who are inclined to strife by nature (as per Genesis).

      • http://www.islamicreform.org Edip Yuksel

        Okay, one state is bad for you.

        What about two state solution? Well, by gerrymandering the Palestinians in lands divided like jig saw puzzle pieces, separated by walls around neighborhoods and settlers in between, Israel has already made this second option an impossibility.

        So, you wish for the third option? Suffocate, starve, and kill all the Palestinians? If the past is any indication, the Israeli invasion and deliberate policy of border ambiguity and the Uncle-Sam-moderated the gaining-time-game of the so-called peace process, yes all of these indicates that Israel wish to frustrate and force the Palestinian population out of the land completely.

        However, the Palestinian resolve and extra-ordinary resistance to this policy of destruction and annihilation has been successful and the Zionist policy is backfiring.

        The Pals will go nowhere and the Zionists will not have the courage to subject them to a quick genocide, which is their dream. So, the day of reckoning is coming for Israel.

        Either Israel must end the apartheid regime or unsettle the settlements and let the Pals have their freedom. Both are difficult choices for the Zionists, and either way it will be the ultimate loser. What goes around comes around.

        Peace,

        • MixMChess

          "Well, by gerrymandering the Palestinians in lands divided like jig saw puzzle pieces, separated by walls around neighborhoods and settlers in between, Israel has already made this second option an impossibility."

          Perhaps if Palestinians weren't obsessed with killing Jewish children Israel wouldn't have had to build the wall. Need I remind you that the over 95% of terrorist attacks have been prevented since the wall went up? Of course you want more terrorist attacks because you revel at the thought of spilled Jewish blood.

          "Suffocate, starve, and kill all the Palestinians?"

          This is the biggest lie and fabrication perpetrated by Islamo-facists such as yourself. The Palestinians are NOT starving. Look at the photos coming out of Gaza, the markets are FILLED with goods. Israel provides nearly one-ton in aid per Gaza resident. Any humanitarian crisis is a creation by Hamas (the guys you support).

          "If the past is any indication, the Israeli invasion and deliberate policy of border ambiguity and the Uncle-Sam-moderated the gaining-time-game of the so-called peace process, yes all of these indicates that Israel wish to frustrate and force the Palestinian population out of the land completely."

          Nonsense and more rhetoric. In 2000 Israel offered the Palestinians over 95% of the W. Bank and Gaza and Arafat didn't even offer a counter-offer, he simply walked away from the Peace negotiations. In 2006-07 the Olmert government was prepared to offer an even more generous offer but the Palestinians chose terror. Unfortunately, the Palestinians have a lust for Jewish blood, so much that they care more about killing Jews than having their own land – plain and simple.

          "The Pals will go nowhere and the Zionists will not have the courage to subject them to a quick genocide, which is their dream. So, the day of reckoning is coming for Israel."

          Again with the blood libel from the anti-semetic Islamofacist. Israel has no desire to subject anyone, let alone the Palestinians, to a genocide. In fact under Israeli rule the Palestinian population has increased exponentially, increasing over 84% from 1994-2004 ALONE! Keep trying to repeat the Arab lies and propaganda.

          "Either Israel must end the apartheid regime or unsettle the settlements and let the Pals have their freedom."

          Do you even know what Apartheid is? There is no apartheid in Israel. All citizens including Arabs have equal rights under the law and enjoy the same rights as Jews. Arabs also benefit from special affirmative action programs.

          The Palestinians could have had their freedom countless times before. The basic fact is Palestinians don't want freedom, they just want to kill Jews. They are immoral disgraces to the human race.

          "What goes around comes around."

          I hope so for the disgusting Palestinians. They deserve everything they get for the years of rape, murder and pillage they have inflicted upon the poor Israelis.

        • ziontruth

          "What about two state solution?"

          Yet another Islam-symp who just fails to get it.

          The nation of which you speak, the nation you falsely name "Palestinians," simply doesn't exist. There's an Arab nation, and it already has 22 states. There is no separate Palestinian Arab, Iraqi Arab, Syrian Arab or any other kind of nation. Reactions to an adversary do not a nation make; in order to be a nation, you need to have a positive heritage. There is nothing to distinguish the Arabs of Palestine; in the south of Palestine, they are indistinct from the Bedouins of Sinai, and in the north, indistinct from their Lebanese brothers. The continuum of Arab regional characteristics cannot be artificially broken as you wish.

          The Arab nation already has 22 states, the Jewish only one. The Arab nation has its states on lands well beyond its entitlement, the Arabian Peninsula. To demand the Jews give up their own indigenous lands (Palestine) is the height of insolence on the Arab nation's part. We don't owe the Arabs a thing.

          "So, you wish for the third option? Suffocate, starve, and kill all the Palestinians?"

          No, I advocate mass expulsion. The Torah commands so. The Arab settler-colonist invaders will be booted off the indigenous territory of the Jewish nation.

          "However, the Palestinian resolve and extra-ordinary resistance…"

          That so-called resolve and extra-ordinary resistance is nothing but the fruit of the leniency of Israeli governments, which fear international "law" too much to react with other than kid-gloves.

          "The Pals will go nowhere…"

          The Arab settler-colonists will be driven off Palestine by the indigenous Palestinians, which are the Jews. No genocide will be involved, only relocation.

          "Either Israel must…"

          Your terms are summarily rejected. You have no right to make any demands whatever. The Arabs and the adherents of the Arab religion (=Islam) have more than enough. All your grievances are therefore illegitimate. They should be ignored, totally.

    • MixMChess

      "Since then, Israel committed many atrocities and killed thousands of Palestinian children, destroyed thousands of houses, stole towns, kidnapped and tortured so many."

      More nonsense and rhetoric from the Islamo-facist. Israel has not killed thousands of Palestinian children or tortured or kidnapped anyone. The IDF has specific policies that require soldiers and commanders all the way up to avoid civilian casualties at any cost, often putting the lives of Palestinian civilians above those of their own Israeli soldiers. You must suffer from one of those psychological disorders where you imput/transpose the qualities of the Palestinians (murders, torturers, kidnappers, xenophobic, hate-mongers) on the innocent Israelis.

      • http://www.islamicreform.org Edip Yuksel

        These are propaganda words. Thu numbers do not lie. The numbers exposes the bloody Zionist atrocities. Here are the numbers:
        http://www.ifamericansknew.com/

        If you have a sense of justice you would investigate the facts and claim your brain and heart against this propaganda, which is akin to Gobel's.
        Peace

        • MixMChess

          "The numbers exposes the bloody Zionist atrocities."

          Again with the blood libel, keep it up Islamofacist. Even the UN statistics show that majority of the Palestinians killed in the conflict are terrorist operatives. Israel does not commit atrocities, you know it and I know it. It's just an Arab propaganda lie to defame Jews. Of course you should know that the Arabs learned their propaganda methods from Goebbels and the Nazis. Don't forget it was the Grand Mufti who was close personal friends with Hitler. The idea of Arab nationalism borrowed generously from the Nazi playbook. The Palestinians are the only natural heirs to the Nazis.

          • http://www.islamicreform.org Edip Yuksel

            Dear Mix:

            The world used to believe the Zionist propaganda machine. But with the Internet, many are no more swallowing those big lies.

            We all witnessed just recently, the so-called 1500 rockets thrown by Hamas to Israel that allegedly killed one Israeli, perhaps from heart attack, and the poor Israeli's reaction to it that left behind 600 dead children and about a thousand civillians, hundreds of destroyed homes and thousands of injured.

            We SAW the bodies of dead children, we saw their video clips.
            We also SAW with our own eyes, the Israeli Gestapo slaughtering human rights activists in international sea.

            So, the world is not buying your distortions and lies anymore. Wait for more exposition of the Zionist monster. Your children will be ashamed of you, if you do not give up your support for this historical atrocity.

            Peace

          • MixMChess

            "We all witnessed just recently, the so-called 1500 rockets thrown by Hamas to Israel that allegedly killed one Israeli, perhaps from heart attack, and the poor Israeli's reaction to it that left behind 600 dead children and about a thousand civillians, hundreds of destroyed homes and thousands of injured."

            Again with the lies and rhetoric. Hamas hurled over 2,000 rockets at Israel from 2005-2007 alone, murdering four Israelis. Had Hamas not been firing rockets at Israeli kindergartens and day cares, there would never have been an Operation Cast Lead. Why are you obsessed with supporting a group that actively tries to kill children?

            As for the dead, less than 1,200 Palestinians were killed during the operation because Israel went out of its way to avoid Palestinian casualties. Over 700 of the casualties were Hamas terrorists and less than 300 were identified as civilians. Even a British military expert noted that Israel accomplished a great feat by avoiding civilian deaths. In similar situations with America and Britain in Afghanistan the civilian casualty rates are exponentially higher. I guess had Hamas not been "bravely" using civilians as human shields even more civilian casualties could have been avoided.

            But the numbers don't really matter. The fact remains that Hamas is a bloodthirsty organization that wants to execute worldwide Jewry. The fact that you support them shows what scum you truly are.

            "We also SAW with our own eyes, the Israeli Gestapo slaughtering human rights activists in international sea."

            Please, the IHH is recognized by the State Dept. as an international terrorist organization. Everyone SAW the youtube videos of the Jihadist flotilla activists. Human rights activists do not chant "death to the Jews" describe how they will "kill Israeli soldiers" and carry knives, stun grenades and automatic weapons on a "aid" ship.

            "Your children will be ashamed of you, if you do not give up your support for this historical atrocity."

            Don't threaten me Islamo-facist. People who think like you are already a disgrace to the world, you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting the disgusting and immoral Palestinians.

          • http://www.islamicreform.org Edip Yuksel

            Now you are telling me that Hamas, according to your own report, killed 4 Israelis in 3 years, and thus justifying Israel to kill 1200 people, by your own report, of 300 being civilians.

            Again, your own defense, which tries its best to minimize your criminal acts, incriminates you as a monster terrorist.

            Furthermore, it is not Hamas that has been invading Israeli land, humiliating them in check points, destroying their homes and building settlements in their place.

            Besides, before Hamas killed 4 Israelis you killed many Pals. You justify your aggression and massacres based on a few Israeli losses, then why not Pals justify theirs based on thousands of losses?

            I am even ready to concede and ignore your delusion of justifying the killing of thousands for a few, but you are the invader, you are the thief, you are the destroyer of homes and hopes of a people who have literally nothing to defend themselves except primitive rockets that according to your account 2,000 of them could kill only 4 of their enemies in 3 years. You kill 1200 people in one night! By calling those humans "terrorists" will not wash the blood in your hands. Your children will condemn you as the children of Nazis condemning their fathers!

            You are cowards. You have a population with no tanks, with no jets, with no Uncle Sam. You have all the sophisticated weapons and you kill and you steal their land, and then have the chutzpah to camplain as the victim.

          • ziontruth

            "but you are the invader, you are the thief,"

            You are.

            You are Arabs. Your homeland is the Arabian Peninsula. There you have full rights. There you can be first-class and tell me what my rights are. But only there.

            Outside the Arabian Peninsula, you are the invaders and you are the thieves. You are the settlers and you are the colonists wherever you reside outside the Arabian Peninsula unless the indigenous nation has consented to accept you. This invariably has not been the case: Islam, Arab imperialism, never came in invited; it "invited" itself with the sword.

            We, the Jews, the indigenous people of Palestine, have every right to boot you Arab and Muslim invaders off our land. Every right. We are the indigenous. We are rooted to this land. You are rooted to the Arabian Peninsula, not to Palestine.

            "Your children will condemn you…"

            Our children will either praise us, or will never be born (God forbid). If we capitulate to the demands of Arab imperialism, they will never be born, for their fathers and mothers will be slaughtered; if we stand strong against them, they will live to praise us as heroes, as a generation of giants.

          • MixMChess

            "Again, your own defense, which tries its best to minimize your criminal acts, incriminates you as a monster terrorist. "

            Not at all, I merely set out to prove the intent of the parties which speaks directly to their morality. Israelis time and time again go out of their way to avoid civilian deaths. As stated, the IDF often values civilian lives at a greater value than the lives of their own soldiers. Statistically, Israel avoids civilian casualties at an exponentially higher rate than any other nation faced with similar daily terrorist attacks. Just look at the US and Britian in Afghanistan for comparison.

            Hamas on the other hand intentionally tries to fire rockets into Israeli daycares, kindergartens and schools. You are just upset that the Hamas rockets are not more sophisticated to actually kill their intended targets.

            "it is not Hamas that has been invading Israeli land, humiliating them in check points, destroying their homes and building settlements in their place."

            There is no Palestine and no Palestinian land, it all belongs to Israel. There would be no check points if Palestinians weren't obsessed with killing Jews – plain and simple. Homes wouldn't need to be demolished if they weren't storing rockets and weapons to (guess it!) kill Jews. When will the Palestinians give up their obsession to kill Jews so that Palestinian and Israeli children can live in peace?

            "
            I am even ready to concede and ignore your delusion of justifying the killing of thousands for a few, but you are the invader, you are the thief, you are the destroyer of homes and hopes of a people who have literally nothing to defend themselves except primitive rockets that according to your account 2,000 of them could kill only 4 of their enemies in 3 years. You kill 1200 people in one night!"

            Again, you are just mad that Hamas rockets and Palestinian weapons aren't sophisticated enough to actually kill their Jewish targets. Palestinians will have peace the minute they give up their lust for Jewish blood. Are you ready to stop your Islamofacist ways and cure your addiction to spilled Jewish blood?

            "By calling those humans "terrorists" will not wash the blood in your hands."

            Palestinians are terrorists, they define terrorism. There is no blood on my hands for wanting to see the destruction of the vile, xenophobic, anti-semetic, anti-christian, anti-western, anti-gay, anti-women, and immoral scum that are the Palestinian terrorists.

            "Your children will condemn you as the children of Nazis condemning their fathers!"

            My children will thank me for standing up to and defeating fascists and Nazis such as yourself. I wonder if your children or grandchildren will ever be able to forgive you for the hate you promote and your thirst for innocent blood.

            "You have a population with no tanks, with no jets, with no Uncle Sam."

            Please, the Palestinians get material support from Iran and literally billions from the rest of the Arab/Islamic block. The Palestinians are aggressors and never victims. Don't try to sound cute or clever by using the word chutzpah, you don't even know what it means.

  • SeaMystic

    Since Islam is in a constant state of War against our societies, we should not worry about their feelings. We must develope strategies to destroy this Demonic Dogma of Hate.
    We are dealing with a people who have intermarried first cousins, for thousands of years. There is a tremendous amount of genetic defects, mentally and physically, and compounded by Mohammeds Dogma of Hate affecting these minds.. Our Democracies must not be burdened by catering to their emotions and tantrums.
    We must prepare to Win the present forthcoming War, against all Islam.

    ARCH ANGEL MICHAEL'S WARRIORS OF GOD'S LIGHT, ARISE!

    • http://www.islamicreform.org Edip Yuksel

      Here is a full-blown fascist who is craving for another genocide!

      • http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/ SeaMystic

        Mr. Edip Yusef,You are obviously cut from the same cloth in the stupidity of Neville Chamberlain, or a Muslim practicing Takya, the noble Art of Lying For Islam. Islam is a pestilence on this planet, there is no appeasing it. Appeasing Islam is like giving IT a raw steak in the hope that in the future it will become a Vegetarian. If you aren’t a Muslim, study Mohammed’s words and remember that his later statements Abrogates any prior ones, if they are in conflict. Plus the Koran is not in a chronological order. Either quit lying as a Muslim or if you aren’t one, study the subject before making your snide remarks. WE MUST DESTROY ISLAM!. Sincerely,Lorenzo Bouchard labouchard@shaw.ca <a href="http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/<br />

      • http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/ SeaMystic

        Mr. Edip Yusef,You are obviously cut from the same cloth in the stupidity of Neville Chamberlain, or a Muslim practicing Takya, the noble Art of Lying For Islam. Islam is a pestilence on this planet, there is no appeasing it. Appeasing Islam is like giving IT a raw steak in the hope that in the future it will become a Vegetarian. If you aren’t a Muslim, study Mohammed’s words and remember that his later statements Abrogates any prior ones, if they are in conflict. Plus the Koran is not in a chronological order. Either quit lying as a Muslim or if you aren’t one, study the subject before making your snide remarks. WE MUST DESTROY ISLAM!. Sincerely,Lorenzo Bouchard labouchard@shaw.ca <a href="http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/<br />

  • Justin

    Gary, nice post. Over and over and over we expose this Imam. Is there such a thing as a moderate Imam? Nope, show me one. Is this the best the muslim world has to offer? Wow! Seems like a really swell guy. They will not move this mosque. The next step will be who is going to build it? I think it is time for everone to start cancelling subscribtions to print magazines that are keeping us all in the dark. There were hundres of reporters and tens of thousands of people at the rally against the mosque. I have yet to see one major newspaper of television cover it. Wow? What is going on here folks? Cancel your subscription and when they ask you why , telll them the truth. If you really want to wake up then watch The Third Jihad, Islam What The West Needs To Know, Obsession Radical Islams War Against The West and finally Islam Rising (This one is very good). If after watching these you don't feel our days are numbered then you need help.

  • muchiboy

    "Newly discovered statements by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the man behind the Ground Zero mosque project, show he supports the destruction of Israel."

    Imagine! A Muslim cleric in favor of Israel's destruction.What is he thinking.Muchiboy

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  • ramona

    Obama is a Musilim and very deceptive,he did a very good jod in getting all the younger votes with his smooth talking.God is in control of every thing.It is to late to do any thing now,we are on a mud slide and Obama made the mud. You can see how demonic he is. Baning a teenager from coming here for comments he made, what about freedom of speech, i smell some cover ups going on. Really this Man needs to be exposed.So much has taken place in just the lAST 2 WEEKS it is unbelievable people do not realize what is coming!

  • http://www.19.org Edip Yuksel

    I pray for peace and cooperation between Jews and Pals.

  • http://twitter.com/profjonathan ProfJonathan

    The WSJ piece (and certainly the above comment) completely omits the context of the quoted remarks, as it did about the 60 Minutes interview (which is available in full for those who actually care about accuracy). As for the Rauf 1977 letter, I have posted it for those who wish to read it at:
    http://db.tt/12EnZQY

    His comments are more an observation about the melding of cultures than any expressed desire for eliminating Israel as a Jewish state, when read *in full*. {Jonathan}

    • http://twitter.com/profjonathan ProfJonathan

      My apologies: the corrected link is:
      http://db.tt/izN5jPd

      {ProfJonathan}

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