A Two Person Anti-Israel SWAT Team

Rachel Corrie has attained sainthood only in those quarters where her real identity and agenda have been forgotten. Corrie was a pro-terror American-flag-burning undergraduate from Washington state, who committed suicide when she threw herself in front of an Israeli military bulldozer that was uncovering smuggling tunnels being used by Hamas terrorists in Gaza.  Corrie was in Gaza as part of the International Solidarity Movement or ISM.  Its intention was to use Corrie and her friends to stop Israeli anti-terror operations so that it would be easier for the Hamas terrorists to murder Israeli civilians. Her “martyrdom” is now celebrated by the likes of David Duke.

According to the press report, “An IDF investigation determined that the soldiers were  not to blame and said the driver of the bulldozer had not seen her and did not intentionally run her over.”  The Israeli army accused Corrie and the International Solidarity Movement of “illegal, irresponsible and dangerous behavior” as part of her attempt to prevent it from destroying houses hiding a smuggling tunnel, through which Palestinian terrorists were bringing in explosives to murder Jewish civilians.

Since her death, Rachel Corrie’s parents have traveled the globe as a two-person anti-Israel propaganda SWAT team in their quest for vengeance.  They have tried to ignite a boycott the Caterpiller company for the crime of selling bulldozers to Israel, some of which are used to fight terrorists.  They have filed suits in Israeli courts, which, until recently, were laughed out of court.  But there are now reports that the Obama administration has been putting pressure on Israel to let their suit go forward and even to allow other ISM collaborators with terrorism to enter the country as “witnesses.”  The Corries and their coterie are now scheduled to renew their efforts in Haifa in a court down the street from me on March 10.   I am hoping some students show up with photos of the other women named Rachel murdered by the terrorists that the Corries support.

Ironically, the Corrie parents were themselves briefly kidnapped by the Hamas terrorists a few years back when they were in Gaza to show the local jihadis their support.  Here is part of the news report:

“Palestinian gunmen burst into a Rafah house early Wednesday and tried to kidnap the parents of Rachel Corrie, who was killed in 2003 as she protested the impending demolition of a house in the southern Gaza town, according to a witness.  The five gunmen appeared to be affiliated with the Fatah movement, according to Samir Nasrallah, the Corries’ host. The gunmen eventually relented after being told who their targets were, he said.”

This might have been an opportunity for the Corrie parents to learn first hand just what Palestinian terrorism is all about and just why Israel needs to fight terrorism with a variety of means at its disposal, including bulldozers.   But instead they saw a quite different moral, summarized in the press release they issued blaming Israel: “The continued Israeli occupation undermines the ability of Palestinians to have a free society.”  This statement was reprinted in several media outlets, including the Guardian and the viciously anti-semitic Counterpunch magazine.

Now the Corries are coming to Haifa to renew their suit against Israel and to try to revise the history of their daughter’s death. Haifa, you recall, was the target of hundreds of rockets fired at it in the summer of 2006 by the Hezb’Allah terrorists, another group of “peace activists.”  In the name of all of us, the embattled citizens of Haifa, I have drafted a letter to hand Rachel Corrie’s parents when they arrive:

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Corrie:

You are coming to our town to sue Israel, claiming that your daughter was “killed by an Israeli bulldozer.” We are, of course, sorry for your pain, but you say Rachel “had been working in Rafah with a nonviolent resistance organization, the International Solidarity Movement, trying to stop the demolition of Palestinian homes and wells.”  In the interests of the truth you say you are seeking, you should have mentioned the real circumstances under which Rachel was killed (and the fact that she died from her injuries while under Palestinian medical care).

Rachel was trying to prevent the demolition of tunnels used to smuggle weapons for Palestinian terrorists seeking to murder Jewish civilians. The group that sponsored her openly collaborates with terrorists.  It has hidden wanted terrorists and their weapons in its offices.   Two Arabs who entered Israel under its auspices blew up a Tel Aviv pub and murdered Jews.

Let’s be frank: your daughter was in Gaza to serve as a human shield to defend and promote Palestinian terrorism.  When you were nearly kidnapped, you were there for the same reason, which is the only reason you were released, rather than being killed or held for ransom.

You pretend that your daughter died trying to protect an “innocent house,” but in truth it was camouflage for a terrorist smuggling tunnel and the residents of that “innocent house” knew exactly what the tunnel was being used for.

Your daughter was in a war zone as a belligerent, as one who had – perhaps wittingly and perhaps not – allowed herself to be recruited by a genocidal movement seeking to destroy Israel and murder as many Jews as possible.   Your daughter died while interfering with an anti-terror operation carried out by an army in a land where she shouldn’t have been.  You demand that we feel your pain at the loss of your daughter.  We do, but we also know that she willingly became a conscript for those seeking to murder our children.  Why can’t YOU feel OUR pain?

Your daughter foolishly put herself in harm’s way by challenging a large bulldozer and placing herself in a position where the operator could not see her.  You know quite well that the bulldozer operator was not seeking to harm your daughter.  And you know quite well that no harm would have fallen her had she not decided to “play chicken” with the machine.

You smugly praise the propaganda play about your daughter in London, which ignored all the other Rachels, the Jewish women victims of terror in Israel, who were murdered by the genocidal terrorists with whom your daughter’s ISM friends collaborate.

Your daughter, and apparently you as well, never had any understanding of the Middle East conflict.  The Middle East conflict is NOT about the right to self-determination of Palestinian Arabs, but rather is about the right to self-determination of Israeli Jews.  For a century the Arabs have attempted to block any expression of Jewish self-determination, using violence, armed aggression, and terrorism.   The Arabs today control 22 countries and territory nearly twice the size of the United States.  They refuse to share even a fraction of one percent of the Middle East with Jews, a territory smaller than New Jersey.

Your write, “Clearly, our daughter has become a positive symbol for people.”   I am afraid you are mistaken.  Your daughter has become a symbol for dangerous foolhardiness.  She committed suicide as an empty gesture meant to assist murderers and terrorists.

You demand on the pages of anti-Semitic propaganda web magazines that the world mourn your daughter, but you do not have a single word of sympathy for the families of the thousands of innocent victims of the terrorists with whom your daughter chose to ally herself.

On behalf of the citizens of Haifa, all of whom your daughter’s Hamas friends are trying to murder, I ask you to stand back and consider the nature of the cause and the organizations to which you have turned, in your campaign to hold Israel responsible for your daughter’s death.

Signed, Steven Plaut

  • Ox Sam

    The ISM should change its name to the Islamic Hitlerjugend!

  • Prince

    So, as we all know that one can condemn the existence of Jesus, the Messiah/ Maseeh, but NEVER can condemn any act of Israel. Did we ever think about how crazy this idea is?
    And the good old slogan of 'anti-Semitism'. Seriously people, if Zionist Israel is so 'for' the Semitic people, then-
    # 1. how come they never have even ONE Arab Jew as their prime minister?
    # 2. why do they forces Arab Christians & Muslims out of so called 'secular' Israel, when local Arab Christio-Muslim population outgrow Jewish population?
    # 3. And let's ask ourselves and the sole agent of so called 'pro-Semitism', Israel, that, ethnically, aren't all the people of Arabian peninsula up to the Palestinian area Semitic?
    As one of many last questions, why there were/are the highest numbers of regulations passed AGAINST Israel, both in Security and General Council, than any country of the world. So many more than even the 'Taliban era Afghanistan'…

    • Jeckel

      Prince you retarded moron, how many Arabs have been President of the United States? Get a life, finish junior high school, and get off those drugs!

      • Sashland

        one, now

  • Jeckel

    PS – there is no such thing as an "Arab Jew"

    There IS such a thing a a retarded Prince!

  • Joy

    Thank you, Steven Palut!! Ever since I first learned of the "martyrdom" (suicide) of Rachel Corrie, I knew that she wasn't such an innocent victim – a useful idiot, perhaps, and definitely a naive enabler/supporter of the murderous Hamas. I am a graduate alum of Seattle University, where she had been an undergraduate, so her story was told with great sympathy & empathy in the SU Alumni magazine – of course, the revisionist version that never seriously questioned her motives, actions or affiliations. It was all the usual "peace" activism that turns a blind eye from the perpetrators of the initial violence (the Muslims). Not surprisingly, the Corries have turned into this season's Cindy Sheehan. Frankly, it's both frustrating & disappointing that such actions are not only condoned, but revered, lionized & turned into false narratives.

  • Jeckel

    Bulldoze all ISM terrorists for Herzl!

  • AntiFascist18

    Will someone kindly take these two Leftard Neo-Nazi pieces of crap known as this Hitlerjugend's parents and place them in front of a bulldozer? They raised little Rachie to be what she was, and they deserve the same treatment, especially after 9/11.

    Any "American" who expresses sympathy and openly supports Palestinian Muslims* is no better than an Al Qaeda operative and should be placed on trial on charges of treason. Hamas, Fatah, Al Qaeda and Hezbollah are all the same part and parcel. The Corries are Sh*t.

    p.s. remember these same Palestinian roach feces murdered innocent animals in the Gaza zoo and tried to blame it on Israel; the same roach feces are holding a boy almost four years after his abduction; the same roach feces intimidate and kill their own if they are Christian. The poorest camel slaughtered on the grounds of the Gaza zoo, well, his life was worth much more than the crap known as the Corries.

    • DBCooper

      I agree, the communist revolutionary in question never represented peace. She posed for pictures holding weapons, knowingly guarded weapons stashes, and was a well known anti semite. She openly supported Hamas violence as she also posed for pictures with her armed Hamas handlers.

      She would have been perfectly legal military kill in all honesty. Once she decided to become a mercenary rather than a mere protester she was fair game. her accidental death was caused by typical youth stupidity, an assumption of immortality.

      her parents were aware of their daughters leanings as she emailed the photos to them. it is fair to say they agreed with her and did in fact raise her to be a militant revolutionary. The military over there should consider her American hamas family to be targets of opportunity. Soldiers die in war all the time.

  • heinz

    pass the pancake syrup

  • Frank(ly) M'Dear

    Rachel Corrie's parents seem to have gone to a LOT of trouble to prove and disseminate news about what totally failures they both are as parents. How very unique. Funny how some are born without a sense of irony; so many of them also seem to lack any kind of moral compass. The Corries obviously number among these poor benighted souls.

    Many thinking individuals consider the circumstances leading to Rachel Corrie's death to be a prime example of the Darwinian theory of "survival of the fittest."

  • Kuffar

    Makes me want to buy Caterpillar stock…

    What about the other Rachels that were truly innocent?


    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Swemson Swemson

      "Makes me want to buy Caterpillar stock"

      Thanks for that…

      Best laugh I've had this week !


  • therealend

    When John Lindh was captured, his father went on tour proclaiming his son's innocence. Sometime after Cindy Sheehan's son died heroically, she went so far as to describe the insurgents and terrorists as freedom fighters. I understand grieving, but this behavior from the parents is a phenomenon all to itself and may be a syndrome by which the greiving process is not allowed to complete itself. This will only lead to more bitterness and no resolution. They will suffer much longer by their own doing. They've doomed themselves. So in that way, I feel sorry for these parents. The killing will stop in the Middle East only when both sides agree to stop it. Expecting Jews to shut-up and die more quietly is not going to bring peace.

  • speedy

    Rachel Corrie is a triple victim. The ISM deliberately placed her in harms way because Western casualties evoke more sympathy than a kid with a Kalashnikov. But she is also a victim of her parents who fed her a narrative of Arab victimization and encouraged her to put her body on the line on behalf of some of the worst elements on the planet. Finally she is a victim of the left wing orthodoxy of Evergreen College. They provided her with an education that hindered the development of a critical stance that might have enabled her to see through the evil of the Palestinian sponsored ISM.

    Losing a child is a terrible thing and I feel sympathy for the Corries. But encouraging your child to endanger herself for a false cause is child abuse. I hope that when they finally realize their culpability they will be able to live with themselves.

  • Sashland

    Rachel parents missed a true opportunity to become real peacemakers; they could have used the moral authority of their daughters death gave them and demanded that the palestinians and Israelis cease all violence and choose a different path. They could have said this directly to arafat. Instead they have become advocates and apologists for continued terrorism.

    Its not too late to change their approach is they want to become peacemakers; they need to use their unique position to convince the palestinians that peace will come through being peaceful.

    Nice insights Speedy.

  • uncle joe mccarthy

    one correction to the letter

    video evidence proves that corrie was nowhere near any homes when she was struck by the tractor

  • Mattie

    SO much hate spewed on this website.

    Rachel Corrie was NOT pro terror, nor was she anti-Israel, though it's understandable why it's necessary for you to believe she was in order to help your cause and justify your rants. Rachel was – just as the U.S. government is – against the Israeli GOVERNMENT's policy of home destruction, PARTICULARLY when the family in that home was NOT considered to be a part of any terrorist network. Don't take my word for it, talk to the Israeli government, ask them for the facts about the people in the home they later illegally demolished. Demolishing the homes of civilians is called "collective punishment" and it's illegal if a country's military is at all ethical.

    NOW you anti-Rachel folks may not prefer that justice take it's course in response to the killing of a U.S. citizen, but I do. Because as a U.S. taxpayer I help to provide the Israeli government, and its citizens, with the largest amount of foreign aid my U.S. government doles out. And I want, NO, I demand, to know what happened to my fellow U.S. citizen who was killed at the hands of the government receiving that aid.
    Tell me your families wouldn't want the same as the Corries were any of you hate mongers to be killed by an IDF bulldozer. That bulldozer, provided to the IDF as recipients of U.S. foreign aid., was purchased with yours and my hard earned tax dollars. I need that money myself, I don't need it buying killer bulldozers.
    Rachel Corrie simply stood up for justice and fairness, values taught to her by her parents. They are the same values taught to every single student who goes throught the U.S. educational system. One can only hope Israeli and Palestinian parents are teaching their children the same values. Maybe then they'll see an end to this horrific conflict which impacts us all.

    If not Rachel Corrie standing up for justice then WHO? Who is supposed to stand up for the oppressed?

  • Chuck (NW USA)

    I see T-mobile has an ad on your site. I will be dropping my T-mobile plan very soon. Keep up the lies and burn baby burn.

    • Tom W.

      Please explain what the lie is first! You plan on boycotting T-mobile for sponsoring a website that mentioned the truth about this pathetic girl, where's the lie? Think about this, rather than use her money to get ahead and plan a future or travel to true poverty stricken lands and help out, she fell for Islamic propaganda! So she used her hard earned money to help protest against Israel and face down a tractor–that's a tragic waste of a life but such is the risks of a fellow traveller! The group she sacrificed her life for are terrorists, face the truth–they don't give a damn. So as I said in the beginning, where's the lie?

  • Prince

    And I knew, as usual, most of the prejudice mind 'one eyed' people will NOT be able to justify the acts of Zionist Israel. We all also know that, it's hard to come up with a reasonable answer that justify humanity, even though those are very few of them, as I asked.
    So, the best you can come up, with the same' Nazi fashion', is using non-intellect words and try to stop the 'others'.
    So, I better stop, because, NO one can wake a person, if that person is just pretending to sleep…
    Thank you for claiming to be a member of human society, at least.

  • Michael

    Bulldoze this swat team!

  • http://www.mcloughinpost.com Diane V. McLoughlin

    Whether or not the death of Rachel Corrie was an accident or a deliberate act of murder by the IDF is almost beside the point. The IDF are committing war crimes when they indiscriminately destroy homes as they were intending to do to a Palestinian pharmacist's house which Rachel Corrie was standing in front of at the time of her death. As far as the tunnels are concerned, tunnels are used to bring in weapons for self-defense against the criminal military siege of a civilian population, no doubt. They are also a crucial lifeline to bring in food that is otherwise denied them through any other means by Israel. The military siege of Gaza has been going on now for three years. The children of Gaza are starving, their physical growth is stunted, they suffer from PTSD and many are losing the will to live. These are crimes, deliberate in nature. Israel is an Apartheid state guilty of the worst crimes against the Palestinian people. Israel is a racist state, which declares it to be a state for only one race to the exclusion of the native Palestinian people, whose human rights are denied at every turn.
    It is no different than if the Deep South in the U.S. had declared that it was to secede and be a state dedicated to the life, liberty and happiness of Whites. As for Hamas, Hamas abided by the ceasefire with Israel, and in return Israel was to implement steps leading to the lifting of the siege and normalizing of relations. But Israel reneged. Israel broke the ceasefire. Israel launched a brutal and senseless attack on Gaza instead.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/WilliamJWard WilliamJamesWard

      You are a deplorable idiot without any concept of history nor the slander that
      you spew out against the true victims of Arab brutality, Israelis defend themselves
      from murderous thugs and you celebrate that scum, you should be under the
      next damn buldozer with all of your leftist lunatic rot. You know the two words.

  • Prince

    Dear Linda,
    Just to bring a little correction on your 'fact', CNN of USA is the one news channel first showed the video of the so called celebration of unfortunate 911 event. But later on, within 24 hours of airing the video, CNN corrected their information mentioning that had NOTHING to do with 911. It was just a local event. Please check CNN.com for more information. And please don't tell us, the people of The States, how Zionist Israel works. Why don't you first answer all of questions justifiably and also please answer, why some Zionist got caught spying on behalf of Israel, in the United States???
    Thank you…

  • Steve

    To Prince
    CNN never corrected themselves on that video you mention where the Palestinians are dancing in celebration. That very video showing the cars being stopped with the driver holding the candy was indeed real. That same video where the ugly woman with those awful glasses dancing in front of the camera was indeed in celebration of the events on 9/11.

    I know of two reporters who were there. You have no evidence of what you're saying and rely on a vicious internet rumor of denial. The same goes for the so-called Zionist conspirators. I assume you're speaking of the so-called Israeli's on the roof in Jersey City dancing? That never happened as the Jersy City police have no record of any of those calls. Again just an internet hoax that you boughyt into.

    Of course if you have video evidence to back up your hate, please provide it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WilliamJWard WilliamJamesWard

    How many people are X'd in the head, Corrie, her parents, Mattie and every
    one of the stinking Palestinean rats in their damnable tunnels of destruction
    and murder. Tolerance for idiots is wearing thin, remember the Palesitnean
    scum dancing in the streets after 9/11, let them beg forgiveness for their
    crimes against the Israeli and Americans and maybe their rotten leadership
    can be hanged and they can go live in the desert they deserve feasting on
    sand fleas and each other, screw the bastards.

    • Diana

      Yes! I agree" She, is a traitor, and used her own life at the expence of terrorists, that could careless about her life, she sold her ignorant soul to the enimie. And diffantly sold out on America .

  • http://alcove-one.blogspot.com/ RobCon

    Not wise to “play chicken” with someone who does not know your there.

  • http://alcove-one.blogspot.com/ RobCon

    I saw the original production of the play "My Name is Rachel Corrie" in London in April, 2005 at the Royal Court Theater which was being funded by Bloomberg at the time.

  • badaboo

    Parents losing a chil;d is a terrible thingd , and in the days that follow , they will search for meaning , in attempt to turn the negtative to a positive .Thus a "cause " is founded , then perpetuated , no matter the moral cost . In reality a dark comedy , for their daughter chose to be a hero to villains , and in the act of her suicide sought to inflict a blow to who through her personal bias , she percieved as the enemy .
    A wasted life for an evil cause ..

  • Max

    Mattie: none absolutely none of my relatives are stupid enough to stand in front of a bull dozer.

  • Norm Winne

    Some Christian Churches, including our UMC, joined the boycott against Caterpillar. I found this to be an absurd way to protest this or any other incident. I voiced my displeasure with it, and was pleased to discover that at least the UMC dropped their Boycott soon after. I don’t mean to say that my voice caused this change of heart, but my voice along with thousands of others certainly did.
    Boycotts are what I call negative solutions. There may be an eventual benefit, but I always wonder why intelligent people can’t figure out a more positive solution… i.e.: the “Win/Win” solution. I guess the answer is the same as the ones you get when you ask why these people can’t understand the terror the Israelis are living through. Each and every answer is absurd and irrational.
    The notion that these two older people are a SWAT team is also absurd. Where do they get their funding? Do they seriously think they will change the hearts and minds of the Israelis? We should all stop giving them headlines!

  • heinz

    Hey Prince, how's that swastika tattoo of yours doing?

  • heinz

    Send Diane V. McLoughlin to Gaza where she can be ravished by the Hamas in the name of peace.

  • heinz

    See how Diane V McLoughlin serves as a one-dingbat propaganda cheerleader team for the Hamas genocidal fascists: http://tothecenter.com/news.php?readmore=8622

  • Nilsson

    What's all this about '3,000 Americans' being killed on 911? Weren't quite a few of them foreign nationals?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Swemson Swemson

      WTF are you trying to say ?

    • Joy

      So, we're gonna quibble about which nationalies were killed? Of course, it is well known that hundred of non-Americans (Brits, Canadians, other Europeans & Asians, etc.) were also killed. What the poster probably meant to say in his/her passion was the 3 freekin' thousand souls were lost (OK, maybe 2900) on that dreadful day. But does that take anything away from the horror of it all? And does it somehow lessen the guilt that should – and always will – be heaped on the Islamic excrement who perpetrated that terrible and unnecessary lost?

  • larry

    Cindy Corrie is a loving parent who is preserving the memory of her brilliant and courageous daughter from myopic zionists.

    A United Nations fact-finding mission has found Israel “punished and terrorized” civilians in its three-week assault on Gaza earlier this year and cited strong evidence that Israeli forces committed “grave breaches” of the Geneva Conventions. More than 1,400 Palestinians—about a third of them women and children—were killed in the assault.

    Israel is a terrorist state. It targets children and believes in collective punishment.
    Israel is a racist state. Israelis enforce separate and unequal laws for non-Jews.
    Israel is a welfare state. If the U.S. were not filling Israeli’s coffers with dollars it would be an unarmed, dirty, dusty poor place like Gaza.
    Israel is neo-Nazi state. From the concentration camp like setting in Gaza, to the blaming of all their ills on the Palestinians, to the willful ignorance of the everyday Israeli and American Zionist, to the shameful racism and violence toward non-Jews, Israel has become what it supposedly hates.

  • Kanwi

    Palistinian Muslims are no different to any other Muslim with their deciet, hate & intolerance for infidels of all kinds. The state for Palistinians was created in 1948 along with the State of Israel but changed it's name to Jordon.. Up to that point there was constant conflict. Now no other Arab state wants those pesky Israeli Arabs because they would rather use their aid money for guns & bullets instead of building a viable society out of the desert sands as Isreal has done.. If only a bulldozer would cover them up somehow!!

  • Mattie

    I'm sorry Linda, but you are wrong. As I suggested, ask the IDF to clarify for you if you think I'm incorrect. The Nasrallahs (family that owned the home) were never, ever considered terrorist threats (they were allowed visa to the U.S. several years ago. Would that have happened if they were consider a threat?) and absolutely NO tunnels were ever found under their home. You have believed the convenient disinformation you've been fed. Now… ask yourself why people want to spread lies about the Corries and the Nasrallahs. Who has the most to gain. Read, ask questions. Don't just believe Front Page columnists. The Nasrallahs did nothing, as far as I've read, to deserve the destruction of their home.

  • Prince

    Dear Linda,
    Just to bring a little correction on your 'fact', CNN of USA is the one news channel first showed the video of the so called celebration of unfortunate 911 event. But later on, within 24 hours of airing the video, CNN corrected their information mentioning that had NOTHING to do with 911. It was just a local event. Please check CNN.com for more information. And please don't tell us, the people of The States, how Zionist Israel works. Why don't you first answer all of questions justifiably and also please answer, why some Zionist got caught spying on behalf of Israel, in the United States???
    Thank you…

  • Joy

    Mattie, thousands of "Palestinians" (Arabs/Jordanians/Syrians/Lebanese by any other name…) have been granted visas to enter & emigrate to the USA – and among them have been untold hundreds who have ties to terrorism – if not directly, then through family & friends and indirectly. The USA, like the Greeks with their horse delivered to Troy, welcome potential Islamicist enemies and anti-American/anti-Western immigrants by the thousands – look at the number of Iraqis now living in the USA, etc. Gaza has been a source of much terror – before & after the forced evacuation of all the Israelis by PM Sharon. We coddle these enemies at our peril!

  • Mattie

    Oh my goodness Joy, what are you saying? Do you have proof of "hundreds"? Please cite the source. Are you making the leap that all Arabs granted visas to the U.S. are should be considered terrorists? I take it no terrorists have ever come out of Israel, or any other country, right? Just Arabs. Pretty close to racist statement your making, as well as sad and scary.

  • Joy

    My only "proof" are the various news stories I have read over the past few years about various immigration policies – from Iraq, Gaza, Sudan, etc. I didn't say that they were terrorists per se, but that many of them have indirect ties to terrorism in the countries of their origian (doesn't take a genius to figure thtat out). Moroever, some of these are 2nd generation immigrants who have emotional & religious ties and have returned to their countries of origin OR other muslim-majority countries – and some even for terror training. Finally, in our (USA) efforts to resettle refugees from these countries (after terrible civil wars in their countries or origin – Bosnia, Sudan, Gaza and many countries throughout the MidEast from whence they came as refugees – 2nd and even lst generation refugees have not been happy here and have left. Again, not all to pursue a life of terrorism, but they have known and//or are related to those who have ties to the Taliban (Afghanistan) and al-Qaeda. Of course, I don't keep records on all of this, but I have read newspaper and other reports.

  • Joy

    As for Israelis, the majority of those who have come here in recent years were originally refugees to Israel from the Former Soviet Union (FSU). Their journey to America was the last leg of a journey to finally settle in the USA and raise their families as Americans – also for better economic opportunities. They were victims of and fled terrorism in the FSU and, for the most part, were highly unlikely to return to that whole negative side of life. Yes, quite a few – and many of their children – returned temporarily to Israel only to join the IDF to protect what had been their spiritual home and temporary refuge from the onslaught of rockets and aggression from Israel's neighboring countries. Also, I think, many had an obligation, but I think it was more of a moral rather than a mandated one.