Wiki Espionage

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I admit I have only read about 30 of the approximately 90,000 leaked documents. So I need to judge by the opinion of those who are better informed: in this case, Robert M. Gates, who is not only secretary of defense but former director of the CIA and one of our nation’s leading career intelligence experts. He is also something else.

He practices the high English mandarin art of governmental understatement. He is famous for avoiding rhetorical flourishes. If it were given to him to announce to the nation the arrival of Attila the Hun at the gates of the capital ready to put man, woman, child and beast to the sword — his understatement would make it sound like no more than a slight congestion in the evening rush-hour traffic.

So it is worth reviewing Mr. Gates’ alarming words on the damage done by that blond beast Mr. Assange (no understatement for me, thank you). According to The New York Times, Mr. Gates says regarding the WikiLeaks documents:

1. They have “potentially dramatic and grievously harmful consequences” on the lives of Afghans who have helped the United States.

2. “The battlefield consequences of the release of these documents are potentially severe and dangerous for our troops, our allies and Afghan partners, and may well damage our relationships and reputation in that key part of the world. Intelligence sources and methods, as well as military tactics, techniques and procedures, will become known to our adversaries.”

3. “In the wake of this incident, it will be a real challenge to strike the right balance between security and providing our frontline troops the information they need.” Since those statements from last week, there already are reports that the Taliban are out hunting down our courageous Afghan allies.

If Mr. Assange had perpetrated this outrage against Russia, inevitably there would be a news report a few month later announcing the death of Mr. Assange and his loved ones (should he have any) because of an unlikely street accident. Thank goodness we live in nation of laws — not of executive actions.

But the rule of law will not last long if the law is not used to avenge grievous wrongs committed against our nation.

It is the high duty of our government not to let Mr. Assange walk free (assuming the evidence in court of his espionage is as convincing as the news accounts suggest).

Let the federal prosecutions proceed — wiki, wiki.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dar_al_Harb LibertyLover

    How about rendition to Egypt and turn him over to Hosni Mubarak? That way Egypt could earn their foreign aid money.

    • guest

      They've already earned it, they've been torturing people for us for decades.

      • William Smart

        Mubarak also earns his keep imprisoning the Gazans in a concentration camp, much to the fury of the Egyptian population. How much longer before Israel wipes out this ghetto filled with the ethnically cleansed?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Reason_For_Life Reason_For_Life

    Blankley –

    Learn something about the law. Assange can't be touched, nor can the Times. The only people who can be charged with a crime are the military personnel who leaked the documents.

    This is settled law as a result of the "Pentagon Papers" trial years ago. Even if deaths result and can honestly and accurately be attributed to information in those documents no one who does not have a security clearance can be held accountable for published information.

    • ajnn

      You may be correct but a prosecutor can get a bit 'creative'.

      This 'pentagon papers' holding may need to be overturned by legislation. "Knowingly publishing clssified information that can harm oersons …" might be a good text.

    • Tom

      Not true. The Pentagon Papers case never went to trial. The case was dismissed due to government misconduct. The law is not settled by any means.

      • Reason_For_Life

        The case against Ellsberg was dropped because of lack of evidence. The government claimed it lost the wiretap tapes (the dog ate my homework?). However, it was clear at the time that the feds knew that they would lose the case against Ellsberg and desperately wanted to avoid any adjudication on the matter.

        This was no doubt true because the Supreme Court had eviscerated the attorneys who attempted to get an injunction against the Times to prevent publication of the "Pentagon Papers".

    • Gary

      You, Tony are a fanatic, and fail to accept that we are blessed in this country because we have the freedom of the press. Your talk of war time espionage is mindless and without merit when considering that this country has been consistently at war with someone without let. I can imagine the self-righteous commentary that would come from this country if George Bush were to be held accountable overseas for crimes against humanity? Your self-righteous indignation towards Mr. Assange is unwarranted and unjustified.

  • Jeff

    Although Mr. Assange may not be able to be charged with anything, theres no reason that two cant play his game as someone could "Wiki-leak" his personal information out over the web (address, family address, phone # ect.) and let the Afghan & US military victims of his deeds deal with him directly in there own way. The US government need not get involved here.

    • scum

      Actually Jeff, why don't you post yours.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Paddyjdonovan Paddyjdonovan

    We need to take some action or we aren't a nation of laws when it comes to treason and espionage

  • dubrovnov

    Assange is a marked man. He can now live in terror for the restof his life. He deserves it.

    • USMCSniper

      Ahhh yes,,, an unfortunate accident someday will br attributed to Karma. I put the Arab curse on him. May the fleas from a 1000 camels make their home in his crotch and consume his manhood.

  • blotto

    That is how the left gets away with everything they do. They know no matter what they say or do, they will never have to face the consequences-they are never held accountable.

    The NYT, WaPo and every news organ plus bloggers, judges, and even those in Congress, they all know since we are a nation of laws, we can and never will hold them accounatble for the deaths or msifortune their words and deeds have done.

    The left has always used our laws, Constitution and rights against us-to our detriment.

    It would only take one time that some judge or NYT reporter be held accountable. Or Julian.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/WFB WFB

      Or Daniel Ellsburg, or Jane Fonda, or Code Pink, or half the MarxiCrat party.

      • guest

        i don't know, i kind of like the fact that there are people out there willing to take risks to expose govt. cover ups, ESPECIALLY when it comes to war and military actions. Not only the lives involved but the wasted billions. Shouldn't conservatives want to know when govt is lying to us? Or is it only when the govt is Democrat lead or it involves any agency but the military? Ellsburg essentially blew the lid on outright deception of the people by the state. You could easily argue that no one causes more death and misfortune than a military industrial complex driven by contractor profit, revolving door between private and public sector, and deception! I may not like everything the NYT or WAPO say, but I', glad someone is paying attention. The two parties and their true believers only care about ideology and political points.

        • William Smart

          Ellsburg blew the lid off the defeat that was Vietnam and back in the 60s, rather a lot of people cared for good reason, American boys were getting killed. The war had to stop.

          Whereas Assange has blown the lid off another war that's been lost for precisely the same reason. However, nobody cares about the consequences of this defeat – in fact many must be pleased, it gives us the excuse to waste millions of lives next time round. Unlike Vietnam, the "War on Terror" doesn't have to stop. There's nobody to sign a cease-fire (or a modern day version of the "Paris Peace Treaty") and we can go on fighting this one for ever.

  • Tom

    Exactly. When Eisenhower spoke against a "military-industrial complex" he wasn't saying that the U.S. had one, he was warning about a possible future which never happened (if it had, contractor overcharges would NEVER make the news). He was also being diplomatic about the USSR, which had a real MIC that consumed 50% pf the GDP.

    As a general himself, Eisenhower understood all of the motivations of military men and contractors. No one watched the budget better than he did. He understood that defense began with a strong economy.

    • guest

      Um, contractor overcharges make the news because of the "leftist" media you've just criticized. Only if conservatives controlled the media would stories like that get buried because it would be "unpatriotic" to smear the glorious military.

      The existence of a MIC here is so well documented but all the facts in the world can't penetrate blind faith.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Assange should be sent to Afghanistan for trial, why has this government not asked
    for his extradition? His crime abeted by the NYT should be the greatest outrage
    but seems dwarfed by the criminals in D.C. who are tearing America down, he is
    merely part and parcel to the world wide leftist assault on America. The NYT should
    be shut down for espionage and the Editors hanged……………….William