The Real Immigration Solution


In the wake of Arizona’s SB 1070, illegal immigration is at the forefront of national discussion for the first time since the defeat of amnesty in 2007.  Arizona’s law, which makes illegal presence a state crime, has rallied supporters of immigration enforcement.  The open borders lobby is pretending that the sky is falling and using the law to demand that the federal government grant an amnesty.

Lost in this debate is any discussion of lowering legal immigration levels.  In fact, many opponents of amnesty argue that while we need to stop illegal immigration, we should increase legal immigration.

Amnesty backers cannot deny that the 1986 amnesty failed to stop illegal immigration, so they now blame the problem on the fact that we did not increase legal immigration enough after the Act.  They argue we can prevent future illegal immigration by simply increasing legal immigration alongside an amnesty.  Luis Gutierrez’s amnesty bill includes a special visa to “prevent unauthorized migration” by simply increasing legal immigration from the country where illegal immigrants come from.

Most Americans do not know just how many legal immigrants we let in each year.  The Department of Homeland Security just issued their statistics for new legal permanent immigrants in 2009.  Last year, we issued 1,130,818 green cards, the fourth highest year since 1914.  From 2000-2009, we issued over 10 million green cards, the highest decade of American history.  Currently, there are 38 million immigrants, 24 million of whom are in the workforce.  This does not include temporary workers.  DHS did not release the 2009 figures yet, but they issued 912,735 temporary employment authorizations in 2008.

Most of these immigrants are low skilled and from the Third World.  Less than 10% of new green card holders are from Europe.  People of extraordinary ability, investors, and immigrants with advanced degrees made up less than 8% of the new immigrants.

Faced with these numbers, how can anyone argue with a straight face that we don’t admit enough immigrants?

Illegal immigration is a huge problem, and we need to step up enforcement and reject amnesty.  However, all the problems caused by illegal immigration are exacerbated by massive legal immigration.

Massive legal immigration undercuts the wages of American workers and causes unemployment.  Of the 1.1 million new green cards we issued last year, 808,478 were to working age immigrants.  During this same time period, over five million Americans lost their jobs.  With these numbers, there are no jobs Americans won’t do.  Harvard economist George Borjas estimates that American citizens’ wages go down 3-4% for every 10% increase of foreign workers—legal or illegal.

Massive legal immigration strains social services.  Illegal aliens are barred from most needs based welfare programs.  After being in this country for five years, legal immigrants are eligible for almost all government services.  Although there are loopholes and weak enforcement mechanisms, illegal aliens are still banned from receiving benefits in Obamacare.  However, the bill specifically eliminated the five year wait period in the public charge doctrine, which will allow legal immigrants access to government healthcare the moment they set foot on American soil.

Massive legal immigration endangers national security.   The vast majority Muslim legal immigrants do not support terrorism, but their large numbers allow terrorists to blend into the immigrant community.  The Center for Immigration Studies analyzed every Islamic extremist known to be involved in terrorist plots from 1993 through the September 11 attacks.  Of the 48 terrorists, 36% were naturalized citizens or had permanent green cards, 33% had temporary visas, 6% were asylum applicants, and only 25% were illegal aliens.

Finally, massive legal immigration causes massive illegal immigration.  As legal immigration has increased since Ted Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act, illegal immigration has risen alongside it.  The top sending countries for legal immigration are also the top sending countries for illegal immigration.  In another report by the Center for Immigration Studies, “Two Sides of the Same Coin: The Connection Between Legal and Illegal Immigration,” Jim Edwards explains that “The incentive to immigrate to the United States arises from opportunity, the experiences of relatives or peers, and other forces. Liberal family-based immigration preferences, along with myriad nonimmigrant visa classes from tourist to student to business investor, provide ample immigration opportunity to many more people. Whereas one might not otherwise have contemplated uprooting and moving halfway around the globe before, the existence of opportunity affects one’s decisions.”

When told the facts, the American people almost unanimously support cutting back on immigration.  In February, a Zogby poll asked, “putting aside the question of legal status for a moment and focusing only on the totals, is the number of immigrants entering the country each year too high, too low, or just right.”  67% said the number was too high, 14% said it was just right, and only 4% said it was too low.

Individual legal immigrants are not to blame for these problems.  They came here in search of a better life and played by the rules.  The real culprits are the politicians who put cheap labor ahead of the interests of the American people.  With 25 million out of work, it’s time to put the American citizens first by issuing a moratorium on legal immigration.

Virgil Goode served as a Republican member of the United States House of Representatives from 1997-2009, representing the 5th congressional district of Virginia.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Vienna1683 Vienna1683

    Mr. Goode also brings up an important fact that only 10% of all immigrants are from Europe. We will lose this country if we don't stop importing people whose foundations are totally foreign to Western Civilization. Case in point is Barack Obama regardless of where he was actually born.

    Its time to shut the door on just about all immigration and before we open our gates we must first repeal Teddy Kennedy's disasterous 1965 Immigration Act.

  • badaboo

    Immigration is used as a gift to countries who " do what we like " .From Cuba whose "escapees "merely have to set foot on dry land to attain permanent status , to San Salvadorans , Nicaraguans , Hondurans who are favored due to overthrowing communist regimes , Haitians who demand the same staus as Cubans , Venezuelans who are ran out by Chavez , Brazillians who are taking over Florida , Mexicans whose cheap labor is favored by farming interests and help supplied a cheap work force to the building-boom-bubble , Columbians whose government assists our " War on Drugs " …man ! Brooklyn is now Russian …..yea , lets close the gate ………now that all the cows are out of the barn .. Dont blame Kennedy , , it all the bloody politicians who have shaped our foreign policies , now Yemenis , Iraqi ,Afghans ,and the like , and what ! Somalis ! Nigerians !
    And you're worried about who ? Obama ?

  • http://piaagano.blogspot.com piaagano

    When do we dismantle and ship the Statue of Liberty back to France?

    How about replacing it with one emblazoned, "Unless you've got several advanced degrees (like many members of the oh-so-wise Obama administration) or lots of money, go away!"

    • Liberty-Clinger

      The age of massive immigration to the United States is over. I do not want any Muslim immigration – their religion contains a totalitarian political ideology which is opposed to the Declaration of Independence. We needed massive immigration in prior ages – when the nation was young and underpopulated – but times have changed. I do not want my children and grandchildren to live like ants in an overpopulated ant colony – that violates the individual's God-given right to the pursuit of happiness. American overpopulation will of necessity usher in totalitarian government.

  • davarino

    No dude its all about diversity. Dont you know, everything will be good once we have diversity. Once we have one of everything than the whole world will be a sunny day.

    While we the American people suffer as a result of this stupid experiment, we are losing our country to foreigners that do not care about our culture and way of life. And that way of life, BTW, is what made this country great.

  • DeadReckoning

    Want to stop most illegal immigration. Fine the hell out of those who employ illegals. If illegal immigration is all about money, make it so that any citizen reporting the employment of illegas, and the employer is found guilty, the citizen gets a percentage of the fine. This would really put the taxpayers money to work. Employers of illegals should not be able to hide behind shoddy excuses and quibble with the law.

  • http://piaagano.blogspot.com piaagano

    God and/or the free market should pick winners and losers, not Government. Back in the early part of the 20th century, the idea of eugenics appealed to many Progressives as a "scientific" way to inch closer to man-created utopia.

    Restrictive immigration policy, such as the one proposed above (other than of course refusing entry to criminals and those who want to blow us up) cloaks itself in that same sort of elitist thinking.

    Attitudes like this will "help" the Republican party in November just like Pat Buchanan "helped" GHW Bush at the 2000 Republican convention.

  • http://piaagano.blogspot.com piaagano

    Sorry, I meant 1992 convention.

  • Tom

    Here are a couple of ideas:

    1) Stop ALL immigration for 5 years while we get things straightened out in this country.

    2) If you are here on a student visa you go home when you graduate OR if your grades fall below a certain level OR if you drop out.

    3) Restart immigration (the legal kind) with a few simple easily enforced rules:
    a) You have a sponsor willing to accept responsibility
    b) You have a skill
    c) You are not a lawbreaker
    d) You are in good health (no politically correct admissions for disease)
    e) Speaking english gets you bonus points
    f) Having a job waiting for you also gets bonus points

    • Babs

      Once upon a time (at least up to the 60's) you HAD to have a sponsor to come here. My husband's relatives came here and even my father in law, who first came here illegally was shipped home when he was found. He HAD family here to sponsor him but because he was here illegally, that didn't matter. Ohhhhhh how far we have fallen since then.

      • Fiddler

        We can thank Ted Kennedy for that.

        Term Limits for Congress!!

  • Jill

    Tom,

    I agree wholeheartedly with your comment. I was looking at your list of ideas, and oddly enough, thats pretty much what the EU has in place for foreigners. How do I know this? I lived in Spain for a year and explored ways to legally extend my visa, with the possibility of obtaining dual citizenship at some later point. When one obtains a Visa for an EU country (my initial one in this case was a student visa), one is required to provide:

    1. doctor's note certifying good health
    2. letter from local PD certifying not a criminal
    3. Proof of funds in a bank account (to prove you wont work there illegally in order to have an income).

    for work visas the list is longer and includes your list of a, b, and f.

    I think its a great idea we should adopt here in the US.

  • Turbeaux

    "Most of these immigrants are low skilled and from the Third World. Less than 10% of new green card holders are from Europe. People of extraordinary ability, investors, and immigrants with advanced degrees made up less than 8% of the new immigrants."

    That’s absurd. It is impossible for illiterate and unskilled workers to become contributing and productive members of American society. Not only that, but they are also not compatible with America society. Wow, only 8 percent of new immigrants are actually qualified.

    Hence, not only do we need to limit immigration, we need to also reconfigure it so that the vast overwhelming majority of legal immigrants will be educated and skilled workers able to become contributing members of American society instantly. Not only that but immigration from Third World countries should be severely limited due to compatibility issues and concerns.

    Of course, immigration was intentionally configured the way it is in 1965 by Ted Kennedy, as a deliberate means of making the once overwhelmingly white majority a minority in its own country and in order to facilitate the eventual imposition of Marxism. Indeed, it is his greatest legacy.

    In any event, legal immigration should be reduced down to a level sufficient to ensure population replacement and no more, and those allowed to immigrate should also meet certain minimal standards set to ensure that they are not only compatible with American society but also capable of instantly becoming contributing and productive members of America society as well.

    "Harvard economist George Borjas estimates that American citizens’ wages go down 3-4% for every 10% increase of foreign workers—legal or illegal."

    Stunning eye-popping information.

  • Turbeaux

    "Massive legal immigration endangers national security. The vast majority Muslim legal immigrants do not support terrorism, but their large numbers allow terrorists to blend into the immigrant community."

    This statement is either politically correct, ignorant, or otherwise both. I mean I thought their silence was deafening.

    The single underlying purpose of Islam is for Muslims to serve the will of Allah via striving in the way of Allah until Islam has been imposed throughout the entirety of the world. Not only that but although Islam is a religion it is even more so a radical totalitarian ideology that controls every aspect of its adherents lives even down to the way Muslims must go to the bathroom.

    In addition, Muslims only recognize Sharia law since it emanates directly from God meaning it is divine and also perfectly just. On the other hand, Muslims don’t recognize or respect other laws on the grounds that they emanate directly from man and are therefore unjust by definition.

    Moreover, Islam is the only religion in the world that is a religion of submission where Muslims must submit to the will of Allah and at the same time become his slave, where the freedom of conscience, i.e, apostasy and blasphemy, are not only forbidden, but also punished by death. Hence, a devout Muslims doesn’t have any other choice but to fulfill the will of Allah as dictated in the Koran, as the only other alternative if openly expressed could possibly cause his or her death.

    Hence, while it is true that the majority of Muslim immigrants don’t intend to participate in violent jihad and most likely never will, they do however eagerly participate in non-violent stealth jihad intended in the long run to undermine our society and destroy it from within.

    Therefore, Islam and Muslims are completely incompatible with America’s free society and all other free societies, for that matter, and on those grounds Muslim immigration must be outlawed and reversed.

    Not to mention also that if we outlawed and reversed Muslim immigration, we could reconfigure our federal government back to the way it was prior to 9/11/2001, since zero Muslims inside the USA means zero probability of Islamic terrorist attacks, and we could use the money saved to balance the budget and to pay down the national debt.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Vienna1683 Vienna1683

    Bravo Mr. Goode! The message that most Republicans, "conservative" talk show hosts included, send is that we support all LEGAL immigration. Well we don't. This is nothing more than a cowardly defensive response to illegal immigration. Time to go on offense.

    We'll anybody who has taken the time ro understand the Islamic texts realizes that it is insanity not to halt ALL Islamic immigration.

    Muslims are commanded to try to impose Sharia law and to either convert, kill, subjugate or enslave all non believers whenever possible. Obviously not all Muslims are observant Muslims and do not always heed Muhammad's commands. Unfortunately, they will almost always side with those who do and how can anybody tell if a Muslim is observant or not? They are not here to assimilate.

    • Tal

      You are absolutely right about halting all Islamic immigration and extremely limiting the influx of people from Britain, Canada, and Mexico. All others must be stopped until we get a handle on unemployment and a government which is anti-business and anti-growth in this country.

  • Tom

    Thank you for a courteous response!!

    Having visited Germany a few years ago, I can understand why these restrictions should be put in place.

    If memory serves me correctly were not France and the Netherlands considering an "entrance exam" of sorts for potential immigrants? I think it included questions about the host country's culture and mores as well as asking if they (immigrants) would asimilate

  • Stephen D.

    Being a second generation Amwerican I can tell you I remember the stories of family members having to learn english in a hurry! They were, by necessity of lack of communication skills, relegated to manual labor jobs. They came here legally. Still, with the conditons we face today, I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY with Tom and Jill. What would be wrong with such restrictions? We ahve Amereicans on Welfare and unemplyment. Give them these jobs; suppliment their income if necessary. At least ther eis some relief. New immigrants should be able to contribute over and above otherwise we can and should take care of those that are ours first. Maybe better days will come and we could then relax these rules but for now….

  • Carole

    Immigration in America and Europe is part of the evil agenda of the "New World Order"
    so they can`t stop it. We are a global village now, which is causing chaos everywhere it is being practiced! We are living in the dark days of the "End Times" as spoken about in scripture(Bible) so things will not get any better anytime soon!
    Sorry to be such a prophet of doom!!

  • TaxedLikeHell

    It's not amazing in exactly how many ways you can cloak racism.

    Some of the posters have really outdone themselves.

    • blotto

      Taxed: Either you are severly confused or just nuts. Your moniker is "taxed" but by implication you are accusing many posters of being racist because they love their country and want illegals sent out, which would, ironically, lower your tax burden. And the racist charge is really weak. Your whole debate centers on calling us racist. LAME

  • Kanwi

    I fully agree with you Vienna1683. There should be an 'Assimmulation' assessment after two years as a condition of their visa and if they absent, avoid or fail that test out they go. The Islamic cultural value system is hostile to the Western values where even a brief understanding of Sharia Law will illustrate. If they cannot demonstrate an intent to assimulate we should not tolerate islamic enclaves as an alternative. The principle of reciprocity is the best guide to how we should treat Muslims.

  • Crusader

    I absolutely agree. No Mohammedan should ever be given the legal right to live in a Western Society because he will, as his numbers swell, begin to become more & more aggressive. Look at France where the numbers preclude France from ever acting in her best interests out of profound fear. No one ever asked me or any other Americans whether we wished to change the make-ip of our nation. In the 1960s we were a majority European race and life was wonderful because we were all Americans. The only minority group were American blacks who considered themselves Americans as well. What is wrong with the white race that we so willingly hate our own race & run pell-mell towards committing racial suicide???

  • Crusader

    Turbeaux, Bravo to you, my friend. I wish to add that it was only when Europe was Christian that she was able to hold back the hordes of the Mohammedan invaders at The Gates of Vienna, at Lepanto and at Tours. Once she shed her identity after 1789, slowly, the Mohammedan sickness began to rear its horrid head. I read somewhere that more people have been damned to hell as the result of one man (Mohammed) than through any other source. Pretty sobering thought that this cult is not only a death cult in this life but one for all eternity as well!

  • RKV

    Put the race card away. No one is buying that line anymore. Our country is our property, and we get to pick and choose who comes here. It's that simple. Time for tresspassers to leave.

  • Crusader

    Carole, I am an absolute believer in that theory and as a devout Christian I see the Great Apostasy that has entered the world since the 1960s. What was formerly right is noiw considered wrong; what was black is now white; what was up is now down. Everything good & decent has been turned on its head in a moral perversion. The white race was given the greatest benefits of any because of its embrace of Christianity. Once the forces of modernity/evil began in 1789, to hammer away at the European mindset, the white race has sunk to suicidal levels of such self-hatred that it wishes itself out of existence. Why would the White Western societies open themselves to the 3rd world cesspool that floods into our lands, radically transforming them and hating us while they do so. Yet, we allow them to do it. We place these folks at the head of the line while the average white male is relegated to the lowest rungs of our own countries.

  • Crusader

    If by "racism" you mean the Obama/Democrat Party" brand then I think you need to look at the racism of the illegals in their violent reaction against the Arizona law. You need to look at the hatred of the white rqce that is practiced daily by so many "people of color" who came of their own volition from their own hell holes to a white, Christian society and then turned to bite the hands that fed them and gave them everything. if you mean that finally the white European race is finally starting to awake from its slumber and its self-hatred, at least the Tea Party Types and not the self-hating white liberals/leftists racists, then yes, what you are seeing is an awakening around taking back our lands from the hordes who wish to reap what we have given to the world and for which we are so hated. I prefer to call this "cloaked racism" as THE GREAT RE-AWAKENING of a People, who wish to protect their culture and to pass on its traditions to its offspring. This is why God created not one race but distinct races and why He placed them in different regions of the world. The Tower of Babel multiculturalism is not the norm but is rather a perversion of the moral order!!!

  • USMCSniper

    Illegally entering Mexico without proper documentation is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison and 10,000 pesos, as codified in the country's General Law of Population. In 2008, that penalty was reduced to a fine of up to 5,000 pesos, or about $400. If you're caught with fake documents, the Ministry of the Interior can fine you twice that. In most cases, undocumented immigrants are "voluntarily repatriated," or asked to leave the country. If they're caught again, they're fined again and frequently deported. In practice, though, high levels of corruption mean that police will often take bribes from undocumented immigrants—and sometimes even rob them—instead of sending them home.

  • jewdig

    Excellent. We don't need no steekin' Muslims, legal or otherwise.

  • statb

    Soon they will screw up this country just like mexico

  • Crusader

    Congressman Goode:

    I had posted a kudos to you regarding your article and your previous stances as Congressman, as I had posted other comments regarding our nation and the need for the West to re-embrace its Christian heritage. I guess that Front Page censors do not like references to Christianity re-asserting itself, and the need for the white race to awaken. They have cut all of my posts. If this one makes it, know that I still consider you an American hero and perhaps, you might reconsider writing on this site for it truly is not a conservative site as folks are starting to understand. God bless you again, my friend!!!

    • badaboo/crusader

      Use your own name crusader , especially if you're extending your kudos to racists

  • http://go.to/megamerge Historyscoper

    Sorry, but the 2K-mi. border with Mexico is unsealable, so the Brownsville Wall solution is unworkable. While it's easy to stop illegal immigrants from overseas since they have to take a plane or boat first, when it comes to our next-door neighbors in Mexico they can often just jump a fence, so what's the point in fooling yourself? Yes, many Mexicans are backward compared to Yankees, but so what? There's backward whites in the Appalachians too. Racism is so sad, and should be no part of the discussion of a solution. The real problem is not race, but the incurably corrupt Mexican govt. that fosters the conditions that make Mexicans cross the border, and therefore the only solution is to dissolve that govt. along with the failed country of Mexico and incorporate it into the U.S. While we have the military might to do it by force, it's not necessary, since we can let them vote on it first in a referendum then do it in stages. Learn about the Megamerge Dissolution Solution athttp://go.to/megamerge

  • nigel chatsworth

    Absolutely right.

    An immigration moratorium. Zero immigrants into the United States.

    End the H-1B visa program and terminate all immigrants on this program. End under special visa program for doctors, vetinarians, etc. When did Americans not want to work. When did we need computer programmers from India to put a man on the moon?

    Congratulations to Front Page for publishing this article.

  • henry

    What is horribly lacking in this sudden bright idea that legal immigration can be as bad as illegal immigration – is that because of Oil Money Bribes a great number of newcomers are Muslims who all worship a Bible which is absolutely divine and perfect and timeless that mandates holy murder, and the end of equal rights, freedom of speech, and real heartfelt friendships with the citizens of the new country unless they convert to Anti-Democratic Islam in short order! The Chances that your new next door neighbor is a suicide bomber are exactly zero if he or she is a Mexican illegal (but all of them would love to be legal if given a chance – not so with the believers in Koran Bible, the Koran tells them they were meant to rule the world and force every country they get into to become absolutely obedient to murderous anti-democratic laws written into the Koran Bible forever by God Himself. Fill the county up with Mexicans before it is too late! Every Mexican means one less of THEM.

    • Fiddler

      Well then gee, why don't we just annex Mexico and be done with it? At least we'll get more land to develop. Imagine the yucca and cacti desert becoming factories that produce competitive goods? Maybe we can give China a run for their money.

  • Crusader

    What is wrong with us if not the evil that has so poisoned our souls. In one sentence Hilaire Belloc, the great English-French writer of the early 20trh Century said that both the Christian Faith & Europe's Fate were intertwined. "Europe is the Faith, and the Faith is Europe." We have turned our backs on Our Lord and He has allowed us to fall prey to the forces of evil. God have mercy on our world, and especially on the West!!!!

  • Crusader

    Congressman Goode: It is so wonderful to hear and to read and to know that you are still as strong in your support of American soverignity as you were as a Congressman, and one who I recall, refused to apologize when he spoke the Truth. I still recall that time when you stood by your comments without the usual apology that one makes after being lambasted by the evil dinosaur media. God Bless you, Congressman, and please continue to focus all real Americans on this vital issue. I recently read, perhaps on AT, that the most vital issue facing the USA today is immigration, both legal & illegal, because from this stems all of our other concerns. May you continue to lead all of us in this endeavor to take back our country!

  • Fiddler

    The original Liberal said:
    "Yea, hath God said that you shall not eat from any tree in the garden?"

    As with the other article about Arizona's law, papers like the NYT knowingly distort the truth figuring that people won't check for accuracy. If any are fooled it serves their purpose.

    As Jesus said to the Pharasee's:
    "You are of your Father the devil, and the deeds of your Father you will do…
    when he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own for he is a liar and the Father of it."

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Indioviejo Indioviejo

    Badaboo, your facts are wrong. Salvadorans, Nicaraguans and Hondurans did NOT overthrow communist regimes. Brazilians, Venezuelans,Mexicans, Russians, and all the rest mentioned by you, are in most instances, Anti-American to begin with, and fall nicely into the Democrat fold. Although Republicans bear a heavy responsibility for this national disaster, the Democrat Party, the Kennedys, Kerrys,Dodds, and the rest of the corrupt cabal reap the benefits.

    • badaboo

      B.S. indiviejo , The Bush's didn't do a damn think about illegal immigration , Republicans when push came to shove didn't dare alienate the hispanic vote .SALVADORANS , NICARAGUANS , DID INFACT OVERTHROW COMMUNIST REGIMES, HONDURANS TOO FAVORED AMERICAN POLICY .Brazillians are a different story , but also are allowed in for foregn policy expediency , so too the Venezulans who left in droves due to Chavez' regime . Anyone who has been watching the political machinations going on in this country for the past 4 decades regarding immigration quotas , and says it's just the democrats IS A SIMPLETON .

  • lovezion

    TO HENRY: Hold your horses my friends, I agree with you that along with all those Hispanic illegals also many more muslism are coming in…BUT, beware of Mexicans! THEY AREN'T SATISFIED WITH JUST COMING IN ILLEGALLY OR OTHERWISE…THEY WANT TO RE-CONQUER AMERICA WHICH THEY SAY IT'S THEIRS AND THAT WE STOLE IT FROM THEM. THEY COME HERE TO DEMONSTRATE WITH THEIR OWN MEXICAN FLAGS AND SINGING THEIR MEXICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM, ETC.

  • lovezion

    TO: PIAAGANO AND ALL: I've been saying for decades now that we should paint the statue of liberty black and throw it in the garbage…OR, better yet, send the statue back to the French. Let THEM invite those wretched leeching jerks of the world::

    "Give me your tired, your poor,

    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    YEP! WE GOT THEM ALLL AND THEN SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We are paying for them and then they cheat, rob, steal, use our identities, etc. in repayment. that's because America is stupid. jThey drain us dry and then laugh on our backs. I KNOW all of this for a fact!!!

    • Fiddler

      Absolutely true! But we still are told to sit down, shut up, and PAY OUR TAXES.

      God forbid if THAT LAW is disobeyed!!

  • Liberty-Clinger

    The age of massive immigration to the United States is over. I do not want any Muslim immigration – their religion contains a totalitarian political ideology which is opposed to the Declaration of Independence. We needed massive immigration in prior ages – when the nation was young and underpopulated – but times have changed. I do not want my children and grandchildren to live like ants in an overpopulated ant colony – that violates the individual's God-given right to the pursuit of happiness. American overpopulation will of necessity usher in totalitarian government.

  • henry

    Believe me Lovezion, that's just Mexican rap – it means far less to each Mexican than Black Rap means to lots of young people – they see their corrupt government and they have suffered at its hands and they have zero desire to mess up the USA the same way. They are just regular guys – they don't have a Bible that tells them that God wants them to terrorize until the populace gets soft enough to control completely – they have the same Bible as we do, and it is not lost on them that their country double-crossed the Pope long before we ripped off all those nice places – also, they have regard for their Indian blood and see Spain and the Spanish as taking land away from "civilized" Indians (which they think they partly are) So except to make a sound of jealous resentment far less serious than black rap – they have no burning desire to make the USA into Tijuana – they see things same as we do. Not so at all with the Muslims – God Himself wants them to completely conquer the USA and everyplace on the planet – their Perfect Bible, the Koran, tells them so and promises if they do it they get unlimited extramarital sex with blood 72 times a day – the Catholic Bible makes no such promises.

  • Fiddler

    Ahh, but at the Tower of Babel all the different languages arose; the first naturally occuring instance of segregation, imposed by Deity.

    Nimrod tried to gather together; God separated them. Interesting how this was about idolatry and was squelched. Interesting how Obama calls the Arizona law "Misguided". Somehow he just seems to have delusions of grandeur "beyond [his] paygrade".

  • henry

    Take your pick! Mexicans or Muslims – but if you say "not either one" keep in mind that we really need immigrants to keep our economy going as we are much too effete to produce enough children to keep our factories and businesses open. It wouldn't be that way if Abortion/murder were made illegal, but, alas, it is and has been the law of the land for so long … we need some families here that will teach civilized behavior to their (ours to be) children. Take your pick – do you want them trained against Democracy? Or do you want them to be as familiar to you as apple pie (which the Mexicans are)?

    • Fiddler

      They are still a drain on the economy. To repeat, Mexico is getting off scot-free are they not?

      Every apprehension, every deportation, every medical procedure, every birth, etc etc etc, for these people costs MONEY!

      The American taxpayer is the biggest dupe in the world.

      Just say we are RACIST and we bow are head and hold up our wallet: "Take as much as you need".

      Compassion???? Where is MEXICO's compassion for its people???

      How about rounding up all the drug cartels, liquidating their assets and start using that MONEY to start to off load the "OBEDIENT" taxpayer?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/HenryCrux HenryCrux

        All I'm asking you to do is realize that there do exist from time to time evil laws. Consider: Do you want the country filled up with Muslims or Mexicans? If Muslim, keep the Mexicans out. But if you what to fill up the country with freedom loving people who do not think people of other faiths are inferior or believe God approves of murder and hate Democracy and thinks females are inferior to men and boys – then please just let what is happening naturally, and has always been happening, just happen – the law was bought and paid for by Oil Money Bribes.

  • adi

    everybody except native americans immigrated legally or illegally here.

    • Fiddler

      Your point??

      This is a nation of laws. Mexico appears to be getting a free pass from obligation to HER citizens. These aren't BASTARDS; they have a country. They have just presumptuously (or with a significant amount of sinister encouragement) come here.

      What I can't stomach is an illegal alien holding up a sign which says, "I HAVE RIGHTS"!

      Someone walks across the border KNOWING it is against the law of the US and somehow can make a claim on taxpayer dollars in the form of healthcare legal protection and whatever else.

      What I can't stomach is that MEXICO does not get the BILL.

      We are the most GULLIBLE, GUILT-Ridden people in the world.

      Time to say enough is enough! Put away your santimonious platitudes about race and use logic. We are TIRED of misplaced guilt.

      WE ARE TIRED OF HAVING TO PAY FOR OUR PAST "SINS". Every society has skeletons in their closet at some point in history. People LOVE to remind us because we have riches which we have built.

  • henry

    About whether they are legal Mexicans, or illegal Mexicans – if they are to replace Muslims, I say, " Two wrongs do not make a right – however, three left turns do."

  • henry

    Believe me Lovezion, that's just Mexican rap – it means far less to each Mexican than Black Rap means to lots of young people – they see their corrupt government and they have suffered at its hands and they have zero desire to mess up the USA the same way. They are just regular guys – they don't have a Bible that tells them that God wants them to terrorize until the populace gets soft enough to control completely – they have the same Bible as we do, and it is not lost on them that their country double-crossed the Pope long before we ripped off all those nice places – also, they have regard for their Indian blood and see Spain and the Spanish as taking land away from "civilized" Indians (which they think they partly are) So except to make a sound of jealous resentment far less serious than black rap – they have no burning desire to make the USA into Tijuana – they see things same as we do. Not so at all with the Muslims – God Himself wants them to completely conquer the USA and everyplace on the planet – their Perfect Bible, the Koran, tells them so and promises if they do it they get unlimited extramarital sex with blood 72 times a day – the Catholic Bible makes no such promises.

    • Fiddler

      Why can't we make Mexico pay? What about MeCHA and LaRaza who want "reconquista" of the southwestern states? Doesn't Mexico owe us anything? Why are they always excluded from the debate?

  • Fiddler

    This is a nation of laws. Mexico appears to be getting a free pass from obligation to HER citizens. These aren't BASTARDS; they have a country. They have just presumptuously (or with a significant amount of sinister encouragement) come here.

    What I can't stomach is an illegal alien holding up a sign which says, "I HAVE RIGHTS"!

    Someone walks across the border KNOWING it is against the law of the US and somehow can make a claim on taxpayer dollars in the form of healthcare legal protection and whatever else.

    What I can't stomach is that MEXICO does not get the BILL.

    We are the most GULLIBLE, GUILT-Ridden people in the world.

    Time to say enough is enough! Put away your santimonious platitudes about race and use logic. We are TIRED of misplaced guilt.

    WE ARE TIRED OF HAVING TO PAY FOR OUR PAST "SINS". Every society has skeletons in their closet at some point in history. People LOVE to remind us because we have riches which we have built.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/idf idf

    Just received this e-mail. Pass it on.
    LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT.

    IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

    IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

    IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

    IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

    IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

    IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

    IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

    IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET
    A JOB,
    A DRIVERS LICENSE,
    SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
    WELFARE,
    FOOD STAMPS,
    AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
    FREE CELL PHONES (good morning Dean),
    CREDIT CARDS,
    SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
    FREE EDUCATION,
    FREE HEALTH CARE,
    A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
    BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
    THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
    AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE.

    I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION… !!! SO TELL ME AGAIN WHY I'M CALLED NARROW MINDED OR A RACIST IF I'M PISSED OFF AT OUR GOVERNMENT ABOUT THIS…!!!!!!

  • henry

    YOU GUYS UP THERE! WHAT PART OF WE NEED IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ABORTION AND LOW SEX DRIVE THEREFORE MUSLIMS WHO BELIEVE THAT GOD HATES DEMOCRACY AND LOVES HOLY MURDERERS ARE MOVING INTO OUR COUNTRY IN MASSIVE WAVES BECAUSE THEY HAVE ARAB OIL MONEY BRIBES BEHIND THEM, THEREFORE, IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER TO GET THESE NEW IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND A GOD WHO HATES MURDER AND LOVES PEACE AND HATES SUICIDE BOMBERS – AND MUCH CHEAPER BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE HARD WORKERS (HOW MANY MUSLIMS TO YOU SEE PICKING OUR FRUIT? HOW MANY MEXICAN SUICIDE BOMBER DO YOU SEE? TO HELL WITH THE SO CALLED "LAWS", THEY ARE BOUGHT REGULARLY BY ARABIA – EVERY MEXICAN THAT COMES HERE MEANS ONE LESS POTENTIAL SUICIDE BOMBER — About whether they are legal Mexicans, or illegal Mexicans – if they are to replace Muslims, I say, " Two wrongs do not make a right – however, three left turns do." Best we had an American population that loves babies – but we DON"T – next best thing – Let the Mexicans in – OPEN UP THE FLOOD GATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! DO YOU LIKE HAVING AN ANTI-DEMOCRATIC POTENTIAL SUICIDE BOMBER FOR A NEIGHBOR, WHO THINKS THAT WORDS LIKE "LOVE YOUR ENEMY AS YOURSELF ARE THE STUPIDIST WORDS EVER UTTERED?

  • dhikerdude

    Bravo Arizona ! Bravo Texas ! I am 73 . Just when I thought the M&Ms were going to definitely bury America ,I see a pin point of sanity at the end of the grave. Call me a racist . Just don't call me a Liberal.
    American Christian Infidel
    Michael Canzano

  • henry

    WHAT PART OF "WE NEED IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE WE ABORTED THE NEXT GENERATION DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? THAT IS WHY THE COUNTRY IS FILLING UP WITH POTENTIAL SUICIDE BOMBER WHO HATE DEMOCRACY CUZ THEIR BIBLE TELLS THEM SO AND ALSO TELLS THEM HOLY MURDER IS GOOD. MEXICANS WORK HARD AND YOU NEVER SAW A MEXICAN SUICIDE BOMBER – EVERYONE THAT COME IN MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANOTHER SUICIDE BOMBER TO BECOME YOUR NEIGHBOR! WHY ACT LIKE A LIBERAL? TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT BUT 3 LEFT TURNS DO! LET THEM IN! DON'T BE A FOOL!

    • davarino

      yawn

    • blotto

      Henry: Did you forget your pills?

  • davarino

    Henry, I am not with the moon people. I believe they are lunatics……get it……luna-tics. Thats funny, I dont care who you are. No I do not believe the only problem is muslims. The problem is any illegal alien, extraterrestrial or otherwise. And as for your thesis that we should be allowing anyone else in to thwart the immigration of muslims is wrong. Yes the mexican people are good, but should only be allowed in America through legal means.

    Going to sleep now.

  • henry

    By 'moon people' I meant the worshipers of the Moon God of Islam – the very same moon they have on all their flags – insinuating that you agree with them on the matter of immigration(all to their benefit) . But the trouble with your equation is that the 'law' has been for sale for a long while and it has been purchased by Huge Oil Money and made to favor Muslim immigration and Muslims worship a perfect bible written by the very perfect hand of God and in this perfect Bible we read that Democracy and Free Speech and Human Equality are not ever to be allowed under penalty of going to hell to be tortured by Allah forever and ever. To keep this Law, would you import these potential freedom haters and lock out the Mexicans who like the idea of freedom and loving others not of ones own faith and not becoming suicide bombers or people who believe that females are genetically inferior to men and boys. Do you really really think that our sold out immigration laws will do anything at all to safeguard our Democracy? Do you think that if we totally stopped immigration that our country could survive considering the fact that we have aborted or made impossible our next generation excepting by immigration? Well then, educate me – I'm listening.

  • henry

    Blotto and davarino, hoping along with every Muslim that everyone will think that HenryCrux is mentally ill when he says that the only real immigration problem the usa has is Muslim immigration. Blotto and davarino, fellow travelers with the moon people. Go back to sleep.