Israel vs. the “Axis of Terror”

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On Tuesday, the Israeli navy stopped and boarded the “Victoria,” a German owned, French-operated ship flying a Liberian flag that was sailing from Turkey to Syria. It was loaded with weapons the Israelis believe were headed to the Gaza Strip, which is currently controlled by Hamas terrorists.  The stop occured in international waters and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took full responsibility for the interception, claiming he had a “solid basis” to believe the ship was transporting arms “destined for terrorist forces in the heart of Gaza.” Netanyahu’s assumption proved true, and countless civilian lives were undoubtedly saved because of it.

“Last night, I granted permission to take over a ship for which we had the basis to think that there were weapons on it destined for Gaza,” Netanyahu said. “The source of the weapons is Iran, which continues to try to arm terrorist forces against Israel. It is our right and duty to stop the smuggling of these weapons,” he added.  Mr Netanyahu also pointed out that while the ship’s journey originated in Turkey, that country “was not tied to the incident in any way.”

Israeli military spokesman Lt. Col. Avital Leibovich speculated that this incident was tied to last month’s passage of two Iranian warships through the Suez Canal for the first time since the Iranian Revolution of 1979.  The Victoria, which set sail from the Syrian port of Lattakai and then stopped in Mersin, Turkey, was bound for Alexandria, Egypt.  From there the weapons were to be transported to Gaza by land. The Jerusalem Post notes that Lattakai was the same port visited last month by the two Iranian warships.  Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Israel had been tracking the ship for days, and that the goal of this smuggling attempt “was to harm Israel’s security” and that his country would continue to pursue any challenge to that security “determinedly, and everywhere, to defend the country.”

The Victoria was escorted to the Israeli port of Ashdod where Prime Minister Netanyahu, Defense Minister Barak and IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz went to inspect the arms cache.  The cache was comprised of six C-704 anti-ship missiles made in Iran with Chinese components, two radar control systems manufactured by British company Kelvin Hughes,  and thousands of mortar shells for which the design specification had been sold to Iran by Israeli company Soltam in the early 1970s, when the two countries were  still allies.  Officials put all of the armaments on public display Wednesday.  “To all those who questioned and attacked and criticized Israel for stopping Gaza-bound ships in order to check them, here is the answer,” Mr. Netanyahu said, standing before the cache.

The Prime Minister continued.  “Every day there are efforts by Iran, Syria and terrorist organizations to smuggle weapons to Hezbollah and Hamas,” Netanyahu said. “There is an axis of terror in our region, and we have to confront it if we want to prevent terrorism and create a chance for peace…The weaponry discovered onboard the Victoria prove why Israel needed to prevent ships from sailing freely into the Gaza Strip.”

Iran denied the accusations.  “The Zionist regime’s diet is mixed with lies, lies and more lies,” said Iranian Army Commander-General Amir Ataollah Salehi  “We deny all false reports. The Zionist regime is a usurper. There is an Islamic awakening throughout the Middle East and North Africa that sees the damage…there is no doubt that Israel is calculating its losses since the departure of the Egyptian Pharoah. God willing, they will sink to the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea…next year the armed forces of the Islamic Republic will be stronger than ever.”  Unfortunately, for the general there was a rather inconvenient piece of evidence revealed with respect to the anti-ship missiles:  the missiles themselves were labeled in Farsi, along with the operation manuals explaining how to use them.  Farsi is the most widespread language used in Iran.

Israelis believe Iran is testing their country’s resolve in the wake of the various uprisings that have engulfed the region.  No doubt they are also seeking to increase their influence as well, following the fall of Israel’s most reliable ally, former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.  Although the Egyptian army claims it intends to maintain the status quo with respect to that alliance, Egypt’s own stability remains in question.  Just over a week ago, 13 people were killed and 140 injured in sectarian violence between Muslims and Christian Copts triggered by the burning of a Coptic church.

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  • Chezwick_Mac

    As dangerous as Gaza will become over the ensuing months, at least Israel has the opportunity to intercept the arms coming in. The arms ship is just the latest example; remember the Israeli air-force bombing of the arms convoy headed to Gaza in northern Sudan a year or two ago?

    The REAL threat to Israel is Hezbollah in Lebanon and their 40,000 rockets. All her major cities are within the range of the most advanced rockets.

    Israel has to make it understood to the world that an attack by Hezbollah on Israel will be seen as an attack on Israel by SYRIA, and that Israel will respond accordingly. This is because Hezbollah's masters in Tehran obviously feel that Lebanon is readily expendable if it means the ability to hit Israel. There is no real deterrent value in Israeli retaliation against Lebanon.

    Syria's Assad must understand that the survival of his regime is in jeopardy the minute the first rocket is fired into Israel from Lebanon. This is the only hope of compelling him to defy Tehran and reign in Hezbollah.

    • StephenD

      Very well said Chez. You are EXACTLY right! Further, it should be heard in Iran, should a rocket fall on Israel originating in Iran, Iran will pay the consequence. The rest of the world would condemn Israel regardless so they may as well be proactive in their own defense.

    • Sukmylaguy

      Correct! avigdor lieberman, Israeli defense Secretary, has already said he would Bomb Syria back to the 3rd century if attacked from Lebanon by Hezbollah. It is just a matter of time…

      Bible scholars are still waiting for the "destruction of Damascus"… as is mentioned in the Bible.

      • intrcptr2

        Unfortunately, those verses in Amos seem to indicate that Damascus, the palace of Ben Hadad, gets nuked.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nellie.apple Nellie O Apple

    Israel and her military might can do justice if ever threatened by the bastiffs. It is the same problem since I was in Israel in 1982. It's too bad Ariel Sharon is gone!

    Israel is surrounded by her enemy but God Almighty is going to protect her. Shalom.

    • sodizzy

      Amen!

    • Deacon

      You got that right!!!

  • informer

    ON MARCH 11TH EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO JAPAN DENOUNCES ISRAEL!!!
    http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/index.htm
    Ron Reese

    In Genesis 12:3God says concerning Israel"I will bless them who bless thee and curse him who curse thee."

    On March 11,2010 EXACTLY ONE YEAR BEFORE THE 9.0 MEGA-EARTHQUAKE AND DEADLY TSUNAMI Japan denounced the nation of Israel which is documented below.

    Beware United States of America! Beware Barack Hussein Obama!

    The United States is going to experience in the not-too-distant future the most tragic earthquakes in its history. One day soon this nation will be reeling under the impact of the biggest news story of modern times. It will be coverage of the biggest most disastrous earthquake in history.

    It will cause widespread panic and fearWithout a doubt it will become one of the most completely reported earthquakes ever. Television networks will suspend all programming and carry all-day coverage.

    Another earthquake POSSIBLY IN JAPAN may precede the one that I see coming here. There is not the slightest doubt in my mind about this forthcoming massive earthquake in our continent.

    I am not at all convinced that this earthquake will take place in California. In factI believe it is going to take place where it is least expected. This terrible earthquake may happen in an area that not known as an earthquake belt. It will be so high on the Richter scale that it will trigger two other major earthquakes.

    Genesis 12:3 "I will Bless those who Bless (Israel)and Curse Those Who Curse you."

    Remember America forced Israel to remove 8000 Israeli's from their homes in Gaza then came Katrina
    Where America lost 800000 houses in Louisiana,Mississippi,Alabama.

    Japan demanded that Israel not build
    1600 housing units in east Jerusalem. After the 9.0 earthquake Japan may have to rebuild 1.6 million homes.

    God is not mocked! Pay attention America!
    http://www.mofa.go.jp/announce/announce/2010/3/03

    Statement by Press Secretary / Director-General for Press and Public RelationsMinistry of Foreign Affairs on the decision of the Government of
    Israel regarding the construction of housing units at settlements in West Bank including East Jerusalem
    March 11,2010

    The Government of Japan deplores the decisions of the Government of Israel to give permission for the construction of 1600 housing units in
    East Jerusalem in addition to 112 units in West Bank just after the Israeli and Palestinian leadership’s acceptance of the start of indirect talks.

    The Government of Japan does not recognize any act that prejudges the final status of Jerusalem and the territories in the pre-1967 borders. Japan demands that the plans should not be implemented.

    The Government of Japan continues to request strongly that both parties will act in a way that enhances mutual confidence. Japan sincerely hopes that the indirect talks in the peace process will swiftly develop into the resumption of direct talks between the two parties.
    And then again ,this year on 1/112/8 and 2/10 Japan released statements telling Israel not to build in east Jerusalem.

    Maybe the earthquake was GOD way of saying to Japan and to America to remember "I Will Bless Those Who Bless you and Curse Those who Curse You." Genesis 12:3
    http://www.mofa.go.jp/announce/announce/2011/2/02

    • ziontruth

      Why Japan? Well-nigh all the states in the world have condemned the Jewish nation for building on their own land. By this logic, we should be seeing such disasters all over the world, not just in Japan.

      I don't know, and I don't presume to know, the reasons. Right now, I feel sorry for Japan; no way I'm going to think they deserve it. If this had happen to a Muslim-majority country, I'd react differently–not only would I not feel sorry then, but I would rejoice, because no one more than the Muslims deserve such a thing, and the Itamar massacre is proof of this. But not Japan.

      • QSuzy

        You are 100% correct!

    • George Jochnowitz

      If God caused the earthquake in Japan because of a statement a year ago, He is an idiot. Nobody will understand it. it will do no good. If God wanted to help the Jewish people, He would strike Ahmadinejad with lightning. Don't hold your breath–it's not going to happen.
      Killing innocent Japanese parents and children, who may never have mentioned Israel in their lives, is viciously cruel.

      • umustbkidding

        GOD is not an idiot the informer is. And he is right about one thing GOD will not be mocked.

        I agree with ziontruth. IF this was about Israel then he would have defeated Israel's enemies that surround her.

        But peace is not for Israel until she accepts the Messiah. I pray for Israel to this end. I also pray for a revival for this country. Taking in the sites of government and the people, it is clear to see that we have lost our way. However, if we are in end times, then I will see my Lord, Jesus Christ soon.

  • informer

    Statement by the Press Secretary Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Japan on the situation in East Jerusalem
    February 10/2011

    The Government of Japan is concerned about the Jerusalem municipal planning committee’s approval of a plan to build housing units for
    Jewish people in the Sheih Jarrah of East Jerusalem. Such act goes against the efforts by the international community to resume the negotiations.

    The Government of Japan does not recognize any act that prejudges the final status of the territories in the pre-1967 borders nor
    Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem. Japan urges Israel to refrain from any unilateral act that changes the current situation in East Jerusalem.
    (*This is a provisional translation. The above date denotes the date of the issue of the original press release in Japanese.) http://www.mofa.go.jp/announce/announce/2011/2/02

    Statement by the Press Secretary Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Japan on measures by Israel on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip
    February 8/2011

    Japan welcomes the series of economic measures announced by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Quartet Representative Tony Blair on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Japan hopes that based on this announcement measures will be fully and promptly implemented for economic growth as well as for the improvement of the social and living conditions in the Palestinian territories particularly the Gaza Strip.
    Japan will pay close attention to any developments surrounding this matter.

    Japan also hopes that these measures will enhance the mutual trust between the Israeli and Palestinian sides although they are not a substitute for
    Negotiations for Middle East peace. Japanfor its partcalls upon both parties to exert further efforts for the resumption of peace negotiations.
    (*This is a provisional translation. The above date denotes the date of the issue of the original press release in Japanese.) http://www.mofa.go.jp/announce/announce/2011/1/01

    Statement by Mr. Seiji MaeharaMinister for Foreign Affairs of Japanon the demolition of the Shepherd’s Hotel in East Jerusalem
    January 11/2011

    Japan condemns the demolishing of a part of the Shepherd’s Hotel in East Jerusalem with a view to constructing new housing units for
    Jewish people.

    Japan does not recognize any unilateral measures that prejudge the final resolution on pre-1967 borders nor does Japan recognize the annexation of East Jerusalem by Israel. In this regard Japan urges Israel to refrain from any unilateral act that could change the existing conditions of East Jerusalem. Ambassador Yutaka Iimura Special Envoy of the Government of Japan for the Middle Eastwho was in Israelhas already informed Israeli Government officials of Japanese views.

    Japan once again strongly encourages both the Israel and the Palestinian sides to focus on the goal of a two-state solutionwhich is important not only for the Middle East but also for the international community as a wholeto act in such a way that mutual trust will be developedand to continue efforts for peace tenaciously.
    http://www.israelnewsagency.com/japanearthquakeis

    • aspacia

      informer,

      Frankly, you are nuts.

      • ajnn

        i agree. wacky stuff !!!!!!!!

  • http://www.therepublicrevealed.com/ Victor Laslow

    I wonder not if but when Obama will condemn this action! We all know he has his reasons http://www.therepublicrevealed.com/forums/index.p
    Victor

  • geez

    No one knows what Obama thinks because he hasn't been told yet. Let's get the Muslim Brotherhood out of the White House in 2012.

  • BLJ

    Good for Israel. I hope the next time they have to sink an Iranian ship. At least their leader has the balls to stand up to Iran. Our's is too busy with his golf game and NCAA brackets.

    How do you know an Iranian official is lying? Whenever he speaks.

  • per antonsen

    Reading all the facts of this story carefully, you will discover that the Axis of Terror now includes NATO.

  • kim

    Not only does Genesis tell of cursing those who do not bless Israel, but G-d also says in many scriptures that He will destroy those nations . I have no doubt that HE means what HE says. He tells us HE will destroy them with the earth and fire. I see like some the war of Psalms 83 along with Gazy becoming a waste. He names the countries who will attack then. Later HE lets us know that ALL Nations will come against Israel.. Knowing those who over look the war mentioned in Obadiah as well. The good news is that Israel will win, will stand forever and ever and no matter who hates Her or dies in the battles who love HER will live again forever in Peace with the KIng of Kings..Praise HIM. He tells us do not warry about who can kill the body, but who can kill the body and soul. He promised to be with us thru it all…Glory !!

  • peter franzen

    The report states "the missiles themselves were labeled in Farsi, along with the operation manuals explaining how to use them. Farsi is the most widespread language used in Iran."
    Since when did the Palestinians read Farsi?
    If the arms were destined for Gaza why weren't the manuals in Arabic.

    • ajnn

      on the one hand, good point. on the other – this is not proof that the weapons were not intended for hamas just that some of the docs had writing in farsi.

      were they to be translated into arabic by hamas or were there also instructions in arabic ?

    • QSuzy

      Because hamas & terrorist groups are perfectly capable of reading farsi and translating it. Why do you choose to think the muslims in Gaza are not capable of understanding the intent of those weapons and how to use them?

    • MixMChess

      Iranian Revolutionary Guards have long been embedded with Hamas, Hizbollah, Islamic Jihad and other terrorist organizations. Besides, you don't need to know Farsi to know how to fire off most of the weapons found on the ship.

    • Spirit_Of_1683

      The Paleonazis have probably fired so many of these missiles at Israel that they don't need the instruction manuals anyway.

  • George

    These are the wackiest comments I have ever read. The reading population seems to consist exclusively of religious dreamers. The article itself is nonsense. Israel uses the latest weapons provided by the US and it expects Palestinians to be sitting ducks. Israel loves to shoot and kill unarmed people. It had to ran away with its tail between its legs in 2006 when Hezbollah stood up to it with simple rockets and lots of guts.

    • MixMChess

      George, you're an idiot. The Israeli army has one of the strictest rules of engagement of any country in the world. It does not intentionally shoot or kill unarmed civilians. Palestinians on the other hand, target civilians. According to the Institute of Counter-Terrorism, from 2000-2003, 80% of Israelis murdered were civilians. Only 36% of Palestinians killed were civilians. Israel targets terrorists while Palestinians target civilians.

      • George

        The idiot is the one who calls another an idiot. If you want statistics, from 2001, not a single Israeli has been killed or even injured by rockets from Gaza (except for two during the Cast Lead massacre of Palestinians). You are a total moron in fact if you think Israel does not target civilians. It killed 1,400 Gazans, including at least 300 children during Cast Lead. It bombed the UN compound in Gaza after telling people to go there. It poured white phosphorus on people. During the Lebanon attack, it destroyed half of Lebanon and killed about 1,200 people. And, you have the audacity to claim that Israel does not aim to kill civilians?

        • Spirit_Of_1683

          Oh dear. It looks like another thick and crude antisemite who thinks Hitler didn't murder enough Jews during World War II has crawled out from a sewer underneath Maidanek.

          • George

            Why don't you go back to reading your Bible with your foul mouth. So, any criticism of the terrorist state of Israel is now a sign of antisemitism, uh? There are many Jews who are against Zionism. But, I guess you are too drunk with your Bible to know anything about it.

          • MixMChess

            Legitimate criticism of Israel is not a sign of antisemitism… however your blatant demonizing and delegitimization is sure sign of antisemitism. Get a clue.

          • Spirit_Of_1683

            Oh dear. You must be miffed over the fact that Jews are no longer sent to Auschwitz and Maidanek. Are you related to Naziboy, because you come across as the same Jew-hating weirdo.

        • MixMChess

          "If you want statistics, from 2001, not a single Israeli has been killed or even injured by rockets from Gaza (except for two during the Cast Lead massacre of Palestinians)."

          George you are a LIAR. Between 2001 and January 2009, over 8,600 rockets had been launched from Gaza into Israel, leading to 28 deaths and leaving thousands injured and maimed.

          "It killed 1,400 Gazans, including at least 300 children during Cast Lead."

          Palestinian doctors in Gaza estimate that the casualties were approximately 500 to 600. Even still, the UN confirmed that over 85% of the casualties were Hamas terrorist operatives. The other 15% included Hamas operatives dressed in "civilian" clothing and members of Fatah murdered by Hamas. And less than 80 "minors" were killed, many of whom were teenagers engaged in terrorist activities against Israel. Maybe if the cowardly Hamas didn't use children as human shields and human time bombs the casualties among minors could have been reduced?

          "It bombed the UN compound in Gaza after telling people to go there."

          This is another lie. Maxwell Gaylord, the UN humanitarian coordinator in Jerusalem, was forced to admit that Israel never fired at any UN compound during the Gaza war. In fact, Israel fired on Hamas combatants in the street near the compound, and not on the compound itself. Journalists from the anti-Israel Globe and Mail who investigated the incident and spoke to eyewitnesses, including a teacher who was in the schoolyard at the time of the shelling, concluded that no one in the school compound was killed.

          "It poured white phosphorus on people."

          This is another lie, the International Red Cross confirmed that Israel did not improperly or illegally use white phosphorous on civilians in Gaza. White phosphorus was used as a weapon against civilians by Hamas, when it fired a mortar shell from Gaza into Israel contained white phosphorus.

          • George

            Read the Goldstone report. You are a typical Israel die-hard revisionist. What Palestinians estimated that the dead were 500 to 600? That is total nonsense. According to Palestinian groups, either 1,417 or 1,440 were killed by Israel during Cast Lead. Even according to IDF 1,166 were killed. The number children killed was about 300. So, you are just making up numbers. See the following for a detailed report:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War#Casualties

            I don't have the time to check your figure of 28 Israeli killed. I believe from 2001 to 2008 at least, no Israelis were killed from rockets from Gaza. Compared to the figure 1440, you may still think that poor Israeli have been decimated. Perhaps, you are the follower of the Rabbi who said, "One million Arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail." (Google it to get the reference if you are curious.) If that is your attitude, then of course Palestinians are horrible. But, to any objective observer, Israel is the biggest rogue state in the world. Even today, they kill at least one or two Palestinians almost every day of the week. So, you have no sense of proportion.

          • MixMChess

            "Read the Goldstone report."

            Yawn… http://www.goldstonereport.org/

            "What Palestinians estimated that the dead were 500 to 600?"

            "The number of deceased stands at no more than 500 to 600. Most of them are youths between the ages of 17 to 23 who were recruited to the ranks of Hamas, who sent them to the slaughter,” a physician at Gaza’s Shifa Hospital told Italy’s newpaper, Corriere della Sera.

            "According to Palestinian groups, either 1,417 or 1,440 were killed by Israel during Cast Lead. Even according to IDF 1,166 were killed."

            Regardless of the total number killed, over 85% of them were Hamas terrorists – even the UN has noted that FACT.

            "The number children killed was about 300. So, you are just making up numbers."

            Wrong, you are making up numbers to defame Israel. The number of minors killed was roughly 80. Teenager combatants were also classified as "minors" rather than as enemy Hamas terrorists (which is a much more accurate description). The fact that cite wikipedia proves that you are a total joke.

          • MixMChess

            "I don't have the time to check your figure of 28 Israeli killed. I believe from 2001 to 2008 at least, no Israelis were killed from rockets from Gaza"

            Of course not, why view anything that would change your warped world view? You're an absolute idiot if you don't believe any Israelis were killed by the rocket attacks from Gaza. The anti-Israel BBC is who reported that 28 Israelis have been killed. You can find plenty of other media outlets who have reported on the murders and massacres as well.

            "Compared to the figure 1440, you may still think that poor Israeli have been decimated."

            Yes, 100% of the Israelis killed by Hamas were civilians. 85% of the Palestinians killed by Israel in Cast Lead were TERRORISTS intent on murdered MORE sleeping Israeli children.

            "Perhaps, you are the follower of the Rabbi who said, "One million Arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail." (Google it to get the reference if you are curious.) If that is your attitude, then of course Palestinians are horrible."

            I don't hold that view and don't you dare put words in mouth. In fact, the Rabbi you quote is the exception that proves the rule. That rabbi is on the fringes of Israeli life, the Israeli government has condemned his comments and even eventually outlawed the political party with which he was affiliated. Of course, this is in direct contrast to how Hamas and the Palestinian Authority promotes, supports and encourages its terrorist groups.

            "Even today, they kill at least one or two Palestinians almost every day of the week. So, you have no sense of proportion."

            This is a complete lie and utterly absurd, Palestinians are not killed daily by Israel. In fact, Israel's policies promoted just the opposite. When it administered the Territories between 1967 and 1993, the Palestinian population grew dramatically as did its standard of living because of Israel's progressive, humanitarian policies. The Palestinian population increased by over 85% from 1993-2004 alone!

          • George

            How many times do you have to repeat the same nonsense. Read the reference that I provided. You cannot read? OK, Here it is again:
            - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War#Casualties

          • MixMChess

            Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source. Even accepting your bloated casualty figures, the fact remains that Israel "scrupulously" tried to avoid harm to innocent civilians by using surgical strikes and precision munitions, warning Gaza’s civilians before an attack so they could flee to safety despite the strategic disadvantage this posed to Israel, and aborting multiple operations if civilians might be harmed.

            The UN, which although is a generally anti-Israel body can be treated as a neutral third-party for our purposes, reported in January that over 85% of the Palestinian casualties were Hamas combatants while the IDF (which the Wikipedia source confirms) estimated that approximately 80% of the total Gaza casualties were Hamas combatants.

            Compared with other similar military campaigns the low percentage of civilians killed is unprecedented. During NATO’s two-month military operation in Kosovo in 1999, over 66% of fatalities were civilians (150 combatants versus 500 to 1500 civilians). NATO deemed the operation a great success: “There is always a cost to defeat an evil. It never comes free, unfortunately. But the cost of failure to defeat a great evil is far higher."

            Admit you are a liar and defamed Israel and move along.

          • George

            So, you give up and admit that you just made up the figure of 600. The Wikipedia figures (in the first line of the table in my reference) all refer original sources. You don't seem to know anything about doing research. WIkipedia does not cook up figures like you.

            Your ridiculous claim that Israelis are so "scrupulous" about shooting civilians is laughable if it was not such sign of tragic lack of conscience. Anyone with any brain would know that when you attack the most densely populated place on earth with missiles from jets flying at high speed, there is no possibility of "surgical strikes." Israel is like the bull in the china shop. It is the most barbaric country in the world.

            As I quoted before, you seem to be with Rabbi Ya'acov Perin, who said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail," in his eulogy at the funeral of mass murderer Dr. Baruch Goldstein. To you, Palestinian lives are not worth anything. I am finished discussing this subject with you since you have already admitted that you lied about the figure of 600. You have no credibility.

          • MixMChess

            "So, you give up and admit that you just made up the figure of 600."

            No, I didn't make up the figure, it came from a Palestinian doctor in Gaza – I even provided the source of the quote.

            "You don't seem to know anything about doing research."

            This is laughable at best considering you use wikipedia as a basis for your research and facts. ANYONE can contribute to wikipedia and no trier of fact with any credibility accepts wikipedia as evidence. Seriously, get a clue.

          • MixMChess

            "Your ridiculous claim that Israelis are so "scrupulous" about shooting civilians is laughable if it was not such sign of tragic lack of conscience."

            I have provided facts and quotes that support my claims, you just provide more rhetoric, this is a sure sign that you have already lost this argument.

            "Anyone with any brain would know that when you attack the most densely populated place on earth with missiles from jets flying at high speed, there is no possibility of surgical strikes.'"

            You are a liar, Gaza is far from the most densely populated place on earth. Many other parts of the world, such as Monaco, Singapore, and Hong Kong are far more densely populated. The population of Gaza is concentrated in towns, and wide stretches of empty land surround them. Have you ever been to Gaza and seen the empty stretches of land?

            If Israel wasn't using surgical strikes then how come over 85% of the casualties were Hamas terrorist operatives, according to the U.N.?

            "Israel is like the bull in the china shop. It is the most barbaric country in the world."

            The Palestinians slit the throats of sleeping children, they are in fact the most barbaric country in the world. Get your facts straight.

          • MixMChess

            I do not agree at all with Rabbi Ya'acov Perin. Putting words in my mouth won't help you with your losing argument. You have absolutely no credibility.

            As previously stated, Rabbi Pernin is on the fringes of Israeli life, the Israeli government has condemned his comments and even eventually outlawed the political party with which he was affiliated. Of course, this is in direct contrast to how Hamas and the Palestinian Authority promotes, supports and encourages its terrorist groups.

  • http://www.chick.com Raymond

    THIS IS A VIDEO OF OBAMA ATTACKING GOD AND HIS WORD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w&fe

    • George

      He is telling the truth. Do you deny that the Bible advocates stoning?

      • Spirit_Of_1683

        As you obviously think you'll get buried up to your waist and get stoned by Methodists any day, I suggest you take off on the next flight to Iran or Pakistan and stay there. Trash like you aren't wanted here. You must be sick that there are laws here in the infidel West that forbid the stoning of women.

        • George

          You seem to be too stupid to understand that we are talking about what your sacred Bible said. It seems that all you Bible-reading zealots have the foulest mouths.

  • Yetwave

    It's interesting how a misinformed, arab propaganda fed mouthpieces can sidetrack an otherwise worthy conversation.
    The passive surrender of the Victoria cargo smells. The sole subject that can distract Sunni and Shia from their bitter internecine murder of one another is a feint at the Jews.
    Iran is fomenting Shia led disruption in key gulf states at the same it dspatches 2 warships into the Mediterrannean takes jab at Israel in a transparent plot to arm its allies. Is Iran buying some umbrage from its fellow Israel haters while it seeks to expand its influence in Sunni strongholds? What strategic motives are being promoted as Iran moves into the seat of incresed power in the region?
    Will its moves be of greater alarm to the Israeilis or the sunni arabs?

  • Steeloak

    In ancient Greece there was a practice in some communities of paying a local drunk to stay as drunk as he liked. The theory was that he became an example for all to see of what bad behaviour was like. That way, the other members of the community could point him out to their children and say "Don't be like him"
    I was so irritated by George's comments that I was about to say something rude. Instead, I thought of those village drunkards and realized that we need people like George so we learn to recognize the kind of hatred we are up against.

    • George

      Well, congratulations for your avoiding being like many of the Bible-beating foul mouths that seem to gravitate to this site. I never expected to be called so many names. So, what is it that I said that got you so upset? Do you deny that Israel uses the latest American weapons against defenseless Gazans to murder them almost every day? Do you also deny that about 1,400 Gazans were massacred during Cast Lead. I repeat the reference here:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War#Casualties

      • MixMChess

        "Do you deny that Israel uses the latest American weapons against defenseless Gazans to murder them almost every day?"

        George you are LYING again. Israel does not attack civilians with US-made or any other weapons. It attacks terrorists who are enemy combatants. The guiding principle of its operations is to PROTECT Palestinian civilians. Indeed, the Israeli army's high humanitarian standards have made it risk-and lose-the lives of its own soldiers in order to protect the lives of innocent Palestinians.

        As Professor Michael Walzer of Princeton noted: "[I]n battle, the Israeli army regularly accepted risks to its own men in order to reduce the risks that it posed on the civilian population. The contrast with the way the Russians fought in Grozny, to take the most recent example of large-scale urban warfare, is striking, and the crucial mark of that contrast is the very small number of civilian casualties in the Palestinian cities despite the fierceness of the fighting."

        The IDF has also delayed surgical strikes on known terrorists to protect the lives of innocent Palestinian bystanders, even though many of these terrorist were in the process of planning suicide operations against innocent Jewish children, women and men.

      • MixMChess

        "Do you also deny that about 1,400 Gazans were massacred during Cast Lead."

        You are a LIAR. Palestinian doctors in Gaza put the number of casualties at roughly 600-800. Even the UN has admitted that over 85% of the casualties were Hamas terrorists.

        As British Colonel Richard Kemp noted: "I don't think there's ever been a time in the history of warfare when any army has made more efforts to reduce civilian casualties and deaths of innocent people than the IDF is doing today in Gaza."

        • George

          You are the one who is a liar. You don't have SHOUT. I gave you the reference for the 1,400 dead Gazans. So, please give me the reference for the 600 dead that you claim and let's see who is the liar.

          • MixMChess

            A journalist from the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, Lorenzo Cremonesi, quoted a doctor in Gaza's Shifa hospital, who said the number of Palestinian civilian deaths "does not exceed 500 or 600".

          • SpiritOf1683

            And I'll bet that doctor is a dead man walking if Hamas finds out who he is.

          • Spirit_Of_1683

            Aaaaah. Only 1,400 dead Gazans. Every Israel-hating Gazan should be dead, then we'd have peace. Had Gaza bordered China and fired missiles onto Chinese territory, every Gazan would be dead.

  • ThePittsburghSteeler

    It doesn't take any guts to shoot a rocket at the children of Sderot; who have to play
    in an indoor arena, constructed with a steel and concrete roof. This building shelters
    them from Grad and Qassam rockets, fired by the big, brave Palestinians and
    bloodthirsty Hamas sycophants in Gaza. All of the outdoor playgrounds in Sderot
    are empty, mute testimony to the almost daily barrage of deadly missiles fired by
    the followers of Islam, the "Religion of Peace." Likewise, it didn't take any guts
    to kill the defenseless Fogel family, including three young children; again, an act
    of the big, brave Palestinians.

    ThePittsburghSteeler