The Credit Obama Deserves (and Doesn’t) For Killing Osama

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Second, Obama deserves credit for keeping the operation secret from the Pakistanis.  Obama’s Pakistani policy has been schizophrenic at best – he funds the government to the tune of billions each year (he raised Pakistani foreign aid by 36 percent his first year in office), but routinely utilizes drone strikes to go after targets the Pakistani military won’t.  Even in his Bin Laden speech, Obama clung to the bizarre notion that the Pakistani government had been helpful — “our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden” – although by all indicators, the government knew exactly where Bin Laden was for years.  Still, Obama should be feted for authorizing a U.S. military mission inside Pakistan without clearing it with that corrupt government.

Third, Obama deserves credit for his handling of the Bin Laden corpse.  Dumping Bin Laden’s body in the ocean is a beautiful way of preventing enshrinement (although it would have been nice if Obama had avoided any talk of corpse treatment in the first place, since the Muslim community has, predictably enough, protested anyway).

There are also certain events for which Obama does not deserve credit.  It was Bush-era intelligence that led to Bin Laden’s death, gathered via methods Obama ripped time and time again, and which led to threats of prosecution for those who gathered it; it was Bush-era institutions like Guantanamo Bay, which Obama attempted to shut down, that allowed such intelligence to be gathered.  It was the U.S. military that planned and operated this operation, not the White House.  It was Bush who initiated drone strikes in Pakistan; Obama wisely followed course and upped the ante.  Yet Obama mentioned Bush only once in speech, and there it was merely to cite him in support of the proposition that America is not at war with Islam.

When the military found Saddam Hussein hiding in a spider hole in Iraq in 2005, President George W. Bush announced that “United States military forces captured Saddam Hussein alive.”  He announced that the success of the mission was “a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq.”  When he used “we,” he specifically lumped himself in with Americans.  There was no personal triumphalism, nor was there any minute-by-minute rundown of his authorization of any specific actions.  Bush was expected to take actions in the best interest of the United States.  He did, and Saddam was captured, tried, and executed.

The same holds true of Obama.  Any reflexive horn-tooting on the part of Obama or his supporters reinforces the soft bigotry of low expectations for liberal presidents.  Any president of the United States should be expected to do his utmost to root out enemies of the United States and authorize their killing or capture.  That the killing of Bin Laden was accomplished under Obama’s Administration should surely redound to his benefit – but any exclusive credit-taking on his part or on the part of his backers blemishes what should be a joyous day for all Americans, especially all of those who deserve credit for this tremendous achievement.

Ben Shapiro is an attorney and writer and a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, and author of the upcoming book “Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How The Left Took Over Your TV” from Broadside Books, an imprint of HarperCollins.

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  • wade luther

    Rush Limbaugh effusively praises Obama. This is one for the archives.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG8qOzL8Hhk

    • Guest

      "one for the archives" Yes, for the archives of See How Easy It Is (again) to Fool Brain-dead, Knee-Jerk Liberals," as Obama-Akbar also proved in the 2008 election. Rush clearly revealed toward the end of his 5/2 show that he was being sarcastic (referring to Imam Obama's use of "I did this, I did that, I am the greatest.") It appears he fooled you too.

      • Lewis V. Muldorny

        I am Louis Muldoon from Indinapolis. I am a software engineer in a reputed company here. I often work long shifts and get home very tired. After a hot water bath, I find solace by playing online Real Time Strategy Games. I am an absolute fan of Online Game Free Role Playing and Space Online Game and play them whenever I get time. Apart from these, I enjoy listening to slow music and talking a quiet walk on the beach

    • topperj

      He praised Obama for continuing the policies of G.W. Bush. You would know that if you had listened. He is on the air 5 days a week, 3 hours a day. You don't need YouTube to know what Rush is or has said. Nice try!

  • Mark

    you are clearly a moron

  • Mark

    Glen Beck is as sick as all the other Republicans who are destroying our great nation

  • Mark

    Most embarrassing moment in US history – GW "draft dodger" Bush, in a uniform he'd no right to, saying "mission accomplished" after murdering 100,000 innocent Iraquis (though before blowing up the US economy, by not regulating crooked business)

    • Matthew Quigley

      How is being an interceptor pilot dodging the draft? Perhaps you can explain that sometime, jerk.

    • Wee Willie

      George Bush flew the F-!02. Of the 850 F-102's delivered to the Air Force, some 250 crashed killing 79, one pilot was killed at the base to which Bush was attached.. Only a draft dodging wimp would fly such such a plane.

      • Stephen_Brady

        Actually, wee wee, the F-102 was one of the most difficult and unforgiving fighters ever to serve the US military. Bush's instructor bluntly stated that he had the highest natural aptitude for piloting a fighter that he had ever seen.

        A "draft-dodging wimp" would have gone to Canada, or organized anti-American protests in Britain, rather than risked his life in such an aircraft. Actually, "draft-dodging wimp" usually don't join ANY branch of the service.

        Which branch did you belong to, by the way?

    • Steeloak

      I suggest you seek professional help. There are very good medications today for your condition.

  • Mark

    Barack "stones of steel" Obama, once again shows the difference between a man and a reupblican

    • William_Z

      Obama showed Bush Policy was right: Gitmo open, Terrorists imprisoned, and ‘Enhanced’ interrogations works—cutting defense hurts special forces—the Navy Seals, the ones who did the work.

    • Steeloak

      True, Republicans have stones of steel, Liberals can, on occaision, borrow someone else's.

  • Mark

    "unseemly" was actually copyrighted by GW Bush!!!!! a criminal far worse than Bin Laden

    • davarino

      worse than bin laden, wow, I bet your hero is Stalin, or Moa

  • Mark

    If we get another ignorant Repug big oil booster in office, none of us will be alive to worry about the interest on Bush, Bush and Reagan's debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The planet needs immediate relief from greedy Repugs, who can't see beyond the next quarter's stock price. If you doubt me, buy Florida real estate – it'll be under water soon.

    • William_Z

      Obama used the military Bush built, and Obama wasted cruise missiles in Libya—1.5 millions a shot. Oh, yeah, a task force wasting millions of dollars in fuel, floating along the coast of Libya. Obama can’t drill for oil, but he sure can waste it, and a number one threat to the U.S. Obama created more terrorists by killing OBL, and radicalizing more Muslim, isn’t that what Bush did? But Obama’s worse.

    • Sean

      This just shows how moronic some people are. Thank you Mr. I hate the Right and have no real facts to back it up! If you did a little research you would find that Barack Obama, your precious Dem., increased this countries national debt 3 times that of Bush in only his first year in office. Not only is he inexperienced but his policies are self-serving, unconstitutional and will soon bankrupt this nation. But to you Obamanites, he can do no wrong!

  • Mark

    Before yesterday, the best news I had was that Sarah "psychopath er Hitler youth" Palin and Donald "never paid taxes, can't keep a woman" Trump were in the race. Now, people can remember exactly how much damage GW did this great nation!

    • William_Z

      Obama created more terrorists by killing OBL. Don't forget that. Muslims are being radicalized, the MSM used to worry about that, so nothing has changed, right? Obama has become the number one threat to the US by making more people hate the US.

      • Dennis X

        what r u smoking? r u suggesting that the President shouldn't have done what he did?

        • William_Z

          No, I'm not suggesting any such thing–my comment was made in the pattern of the MSM when Bush was president–you know, every act he authorized 'created more terrorists, and blah, blah, blah.' You see?

      • kel goresky

        If obama really is a true muslim and muslims are out to take over the world and kill anyone outside of islam-then killing obl will bring increased terrorism, infiltration of u.s. and the destruction of this country depending on his true heart motive,His involvement with UN to bring blasphemy law against saying anything to muslims or islam suggests he favours this religion!

  • GEDouglas

    LMAO….Mark are you enjoying talking to yourself.

  • DogWithoutSlippers

    Mark you are your own deafening echo – jerk!
    Your myoptic hatred confines you to the past
    and makes you are rather dull dude!

  • geez

    Obama the mindless teleprompter reading empty suit has done nothing but continue the Bush policies and isn't man enough to give Bush the credit he deserves. That is the difference between a man and a manchild. We can't afford anymore of Obama's "leadership". Let's put him on the book tour in 2012 with Carter the magnificent.

    • Wesley Moore

      "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
      - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

      Bush's priority was Iraq, not finding the man behind 9/11. He had eight years to complete the mission, but lost interest in a year. Now, Obama gives the order to kill Bin Laden, and you want to give Bush credit?

      • DogWithoutSlippers

        Wes, that was done to minimize Bin Laden and make him
        reveal himself! Coming from President Bush it was used
        as a challenge, but the snake stayed hidden in the grass!

      • DogWithoutSlippers

        DITTO!

      • Jim_C

        It is funny, isn't it?

    • Steve Chavez

      Obama is the Second Coming of J.C., Jimmy Carter!

  • Chezwick_mac

    I despise Barak Obama for how he is driving America into fiscal insolvency and how his Justice dept is uninterested in pursuing terrorism-related charges against CAIR and other Muslim-advocacy groups, but I'm man enough to admit that his decision to raid the compound and not bomb it from the air was ballsy indeed. It could have ended much, much differently. As it is, we KNOW we got our man. Kudos to the Prez for doing something right for a change.

    • DogWithoutSlippers

      Chez, could it be part of the lie…..Obama or Osama
      you know who has to go under the bus wheels!

      • Chezwick_mac

        If this was Sept-Oct 2012, I'd be very suspicious about the timing. As it is, Americans have a short attention span…Obama will get his bounce in the polls…and then the structural deficit and other problems that afflict us will remind everyone that he's a man with no answers.

  • Adam

    This blog post is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever read. Enjoy your blissful ignorance.

    • davarino

      Thanks

  • Kafir

    On a great day for America, I hate to be so cyical. Clearly, President M&M (Muslim & Marxist) could care less about the need to kill Obama, I mean Osama, for the benefit of the country. Osama had to be the fall guy to shore up Obama's re-election bid.

  • Dispozovdaburka

    Why, did they decide to kill Bin Laden, now?
    They have known where he is since 9/11.
    The Muslim Brotherhood will have yet another reason
    to kill our troops, raid our embassies, and to hate us.
    He is their hero.
    It will probably help to bring muslims together in the conciousness of hate.
    I am not surprised that Obama and his team take credit for it.
    It looks like a win,win, for the US and our great Navy Seals, but ultimately, is it really?
    Wouldn't it have been better just to let him wither away in a cave with no free media time
    for his tribe and Islam?

    • Stephen_Brady

      "They have known where he is since 9/11."

      And your evidence for this astounding statement, which would have been classified at the highest levels of the US government is? …

      And Muslims don't need an excuse for their "consciousness of hate".

  • OLJingoist

    dispozovdaburka
    You are walking around with your eyes shut otherwise you would see you head is up your butt.
    All of islam takes it's marching orders from that rag called the koran and all the fears you have are already part of their very souls and being. Their very own holy book makes them what they are. Mindless instruments of violence.
    The More Devout The Muslim … The More He IS Your Enemy

    • Dispozovdaburka

      Gott (former head of the CIA) was quoted in his home in Florida as saying that this
      hit on Bin Laden has been in the works prior to 9/11.
      The Clinton administraton
      was aware of his whereabouts.
      And by the by, monsieur OLJingoist,
      I do understand the conciousness of Islam,
      and
      you may want to ask why our president initiated "Muslim Prayer Day" on the DC Mall,
      praying for "The Soul of America>" Which determines the future destiny of our country. September 2009
      You also might find out a little bit about the "
      "Sharia for America" Rally that was planned at the White House by "
      The Islamic Thinkers Society." An Imam from England was scheduled to speak to Americans to tell us "how Islam would be good for America."

    • Dispozovdaburka

      PS, I am extremely proud of our military and Our Navy Seals,
      Perhaps you misinterperated the idea that I was trying to convey.
      If I didn't expain myself as clearly as I thought I had, I am truly sorry.

  • Frank

    Great article. I completely agree.
    Thank God B. Hussein authorized the hit — but he of course knew the political traction he would get from it — and it is pathetic how much he took credit for it, etc. The unbelievable immaturity of this affirmative action prez…….

  • Steve Chavez

    Glenn Beck said "American's can do better" than dancing in the streets and jumping into lakes, who he angrily and sadly admonished so he had a Marching Band, confetti falling, and handed out cookies!

  • USAdecline

    I was somewhat shocked at some of Obama's remarks in his speech. By placing himself at the center and "brain" of the operation, a thoroughly self lauditory action, he has embellished his family with bulls-eyes. His Kenyan granny is already feeling the pressure. Double his security, the terrorist will be relentless.

    • Dennis X

      He's been able to survive the right wing wackos, he'll be okay!

  • richard

    this is the only thing obama has, & will ever do right while he occupies the office. he should be shown the door.

    • William_Z

      He used Bush policy. The only presidential thing Obama has done.

  • richard

    he has basically ruined the country on many levels.

  • BLJ

    Obama finally does one right thing as President. My gut tells me his motives were more political than anything else. Still, that scumbag Bin Laden is shark bait and that is a good thing.

    The 2012 election is 18 months away. Rising gas and food prices combined with high unemployment are the biggest obstacles facing Obama. So far he has shown zero ability in solving them. His admirers will milk the Bin Laden hit for all it is worth, but in the end he may end up just like Jimmy Carter.

    • Mark W

      finally someone says it beautifully… its like the attacks to trump… all they talked about was the birth certificate and him being a joke… when he is the only one talk about solving problems.
      giving us a jobs and not food stamps…
      no I am in no need of food stamps…

      • Mark W

        I am glad our Government is losing its "fool the crowd skills" although some people just love being fooled… Obama shot him with a bullet he made in his basement…

  • ray

    The previous administration put the tools in place for future presidents to fight the war on terror.

    The CIA gathered the intel and the military carried out the tactics.

    But you never would have thought that from Obama's speech. How many times did he refer to himself versus using the royal "we."

    It's as if his actions alone led to OBL being killed. Phony.

  • Jim_C

    You guys read way too much into Obama's "taking credit."

    The fact is, this was a priority for him, something he campaigned on, and he made good.

    Yes, luck was involved. So was planning. So were the incomparable skills of our elite forces. So was much-needed success from the intelligence community and the decision to keep Gitmo open. One could say, maybe, Bush deserves credit for the last two to an extent.

    Osama's dead and Obama made good. End of story.

    • BLJ

      What cracks me up is the same MSM and libs that are praising Obama were the same one's who criticized Bush when he made that "Dead of Alive" comment shortly after 9/11.

      As far as campaign promises go I guess it is good that Obama reneged on his "close Gitmo" one.

      • Jim_C

        I'm not sure…I always thought we all stood behind Bush right after 9/11. When he turned his attention to Iraq is when the libs got off the Bush train.

        • Steeloak

          No, it was when Howard (screamer) Dean surged in the primaries that Democrats decided as a party to politicize the war for political gain.

          • Jim_C

            In terms of the politicians, yes, and I'd agree that's an important point to remember.

            In terms of the public, though, it is also important as citizens to remember that neither you nor I thought "Let's take down Saddam!" on Sept. 12, 2001. Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld, on the other hand….

    • Sean

      Obama campaigned on the stance that we should leave the middle east, close gitmo, increase diplomacy with mid east nations, etc.
      Yet the first chance of helping his re-election, he ignores communication with pakistan, sends troops into pakistan with the order to kill (not capture) bin laden with 55% certainty that hed be there, all based on information ultimately provided through torture in gitmo. ….And then he has the audacity to take credit? Ive had enough of this megalomaniac.

      I say, good job George Bush…we miss you

  • Jim_C

    Whether they are ":strategy" or not, the question is, are they good for the country?

    And the biggest question is, Will jobs come back? No jobs = republicans have a chance in 2012. Jobs = GOP no chance in 2012.

  • Paul

    Mr. Shapiro, EVERYTHING you have said is true. Kudos to you, and to the narcissist prez, all that is properly due him, absolutely (AND WHAT A BIG HEAD HE SOMEHOW MANAGES TO CARRY, despite all common sense).

  • steven l

    Nb. 1: OBL
    Nb. 2: Iran
    Nb. 3: The Wahhabi who have infiltrated the US soil (& the EU) with their petro$/OIL.

    The problem is that BHO is so infatuated with Islam that he is blind to their supremacist goals:

    The conquest and enslavement of HUMANITY.

  • Chezwick_mac

    Well jjmc, I myself am not ashamed to admit that I felt a great satisfaction with the news that Osama was killed, that the families of his victims might feel some comfort over the news, and that he'll never be able to orchestrate another death in this world.

    I guess we can't all be a paragon-of-virtue like yourself.

  • The Truth Hurts

    Obama doesn't get credit for the killing of Osama Bin Laden, but he does get credit for this recession?????….UMM I FAIL TO SEE THE LOGIC, BUT KNOW JUST HOW YOU RACIST FREAKS THINK!
    POINT BLANK, I FEEL SORRY FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT THAT HAS THE JOB TO CLEAN UP AFTER YOU PR*CKS ONCE AGAIN!

    RACISM DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN, IT EXISTS BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE ARE A DEFENSELESS RACE! YOU HIDE..YOU CONTINUE TO TAKE FROM OTHERS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CREATE. A BLANK WHITE PAGE HAS NO ART… IF THE COLOR WORLD TURNED ON YOU, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU COULD NEVER TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES, NOT EVEN FROM THE BEGINNING..THAT'S WHY YOU NEEDED SLAVES..

    EVERYTHING THE WHITE RACE HAS CREATED HAS TURNED TO SH^T! YOUR ECONOMY/ EVERYTHING!!! AND WILL CONTINUE TO GO DOWNHILL NOT BECAUSE OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT. BUT BECAUSE YOU WHITE PEOPLE HAVE REACHED THE END OF YOUR TERROR REIGN ON THE COLOR WORLD!

    • BLJ

      You are an idiot.

      • SpiritOf1683

        and a hate-filled racist and bigot to boot.

    • USAdecline

      Sorry buddy but nearly all the great inventions and scientific revelations in the last few hundred years have originated within the caucasian domain. Must really suck to be you.

    • Steeloak

      Wow, why not tell us what you really think?

    • Sean

      Wow, funny how its always the actual racist who decides to throw the race card around. You are obviously a very hate filled human being and incredibly ignorant. You may also be baffled to know that I think Obama is a terrible president and yet im BLACK!? What a racist I must be for finding someone's policies unconstitutional and painful to the U.S. economy regardless of their skin color. And your right, white people are completely inept and only black people know how to properly govern. I mean, look at Africa…

  • http://apollospaeks.townhall.com ApolloSpeaks

    OBAMA SHARED IN BUSH/CHENEY WAR CRIMES

    Obama used actionable intell about a courier to track down Bin Laden that was “illegally” extracted from tortured Al Qaida victims. In other words, he shared in the “war crimes” of the Bush and Cheney administration. How can he do such a thing and talk about “upholding American ideals and values?” Where is the ACLU? Where’s Amnesty International? Where are the Leftists bloggers of conscience who want to bring Bush and Cheney to justice? Why aren’t they condemning Obama? Where is the outrage? (sarcasm)

    Click my name to read my lastest piece: Obama, MSM and the Messiah Reborn.on my widely linked Townhall blog.

  • http://apollospaeks.townhall.com ApolloSpeaks

    OBAMA SHARED IN BUSH/CHENEY WAR CRIMES

    Obama used actionable intell about a courier to track down Bin Laden that was "illegally" extracted from tortured Al Qaida victims. In other words, he shared in the "war crimes" of the Bush and Cheney administration. How can he do such a thing and talk about "upholding American ideals and values?" Where is the ACLU? Where's Amnesty International? Where are the Leftists bloggers of conscience who want to bring Bush and Cheney to justice? Why aren't they condemning Obama? Where is the outrage? (sarcasm)

    Click my name to read my lastest piece: Obama, MSM and the Messiah Reborn.on my widely linked Townhall blog.

  • 080

    I am completely astonished at the depth and originality of the brand new, never before thought of Obama Doctrine. It states openly and fearlessly that henceforth “prevention and preemption” will be the policy of the United States.

  • Jim_C

    Very true. No jobs, no re-election. Jobs = re-election.

  • Les

    ” I was also filled with gratitude to President Obama for authorizing the trigger pull.”

    And herein lies the problem: why would the author of the article think that Obama had any particular authority to kill bin Laden ?! Each and everyone of us has a God-given right to self-defense and to protecting our families and our lives. Therefore – everyone is equally “authorised” to pull the trigger when faced with someone like bin Laden.
    Obama did not have any particular authority – but he had the means, which most of us don’t have.

    So – let us not mistake Obama’s actions for something they are not: he acted in the name of his constituents, American citizens, who provided him with the means of achieving what could not be achieved by anyone on his or her own. And for that – we do not need to feel any particular degree of gratitude: this was his job, and that was what he was elected for, and this is what he is being paid for. Unless I am greatly mistaken…

  • ray

    Does it matter? Obama is a phony because the tactics he disparaged as a senator and a candidate he now embraces in the killing of OBL. It's like John Kerry – I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it. Obama is an opportunist.
    He will say and do anything to get elected. He is now going to ground zero on Thursday to celebrate. He invited W. to attend. W declined. That is class, which Obama knows nothing about.

  • Rudi

    Good to see that censorship is alive and well on this site.
    Thanks for removing my post.

  • Hubcap

    If this time it is really Osama Been Dying then we Americans are in supreme danger. We were warned that the punishment for getting OBL would be dirty bombs inside our borders. Everyone in D.C. knew that before the fact. Besides, what was the harm in watching him and maybe freezing his money like we did Gadaffi in Libya. Or was he carrying around gold bars in his kidney dialyisis machine? What was the rush?

    • USAdecline

      Can't help but to agree with your assessment. Middle Eastern types have been streaming across the border with the rest of the rabble and I fear a few or more have established terrorist cells.

    • Rudi

      What was the rush ?! Are you serious ?! I just can’t believe that people like you exist – devoid of any self-preservation instinct and, dare I say, any moral guidance at all. What you are saying – that it is OK to let a mass murderer live, because his buddies voiced threats…against a nation of 300 million people…
      So – yes, run away, placate the bastards, let them introduce Sharia law, maybe they will let you live…NOT.
      Einstein said once that two things have no limits – the Universe and human stupidity, but he wasn’t 100% sure about the former. You are a walking proof that he was not far off the mark.

  • Joe

    Gas went up from $3.95 to $3.99 in my neck of town the night that Obama came on TV to announce that he ordered the strike on OBL. Today a few days later, gas is now >$4.00 here. Un-employment remains very, very high. There are what: 40 million Americans on Food Stamps? The price of groceries continues to climb, the value of our dollar continues to plummet, we are in 3 wars now and in general our U.S. economy is in a malaise that seems to be spiraling out of control…

    I think that there are folks who just believe everything that the media spoon feeds them on the tube and then there are folks who go outside, away from the mind control box that work (or look for work), pay bills and try to afford things like food and clothing. There are so many folks who are hypnotized by that box – the high definition plasma prevents them from seeing their fellow Americans struggling, sometimes suffering to make ends meet. It prevents them from seeing beyond what they see in that box. Perhaps they'll wake up before it is too late, perhaps not.

    What has the killing of OBL done for any of us? Really? Has it just given you and I closure – or can it considering that we are still in 3 different wars? Will it bring the cost of gasoline back down? Will it create more jobs, will it make the price of milk lower?

    Yes, hip hip hooray and ding dong the wicked witch is dead. Now what ?

  • Carbondioxide

    The article was well said, describing things hidden from the consciousness of those blinded by false ideologies.
    My thanks to every soldier, sailor and airman, their families and to the allies who sacrificed up to now and continue to do so.
    What I want to know more about is the decision to risk the lives of seventy-five Americans versus the relative safety of a bomb. Does that seem wise to you?
    Our US military does not have to prove anything to anyone. If that was Obama's decision then I believe there will be lots to criticise. Oh well they can use the Bin Laden hard drives to build the no-fly list. That will be more handy than ever as we deal with the new Islamic states Obama is working to form in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Yemen and whatever the Iranian client state fomed by Fatah and Hamas decides to call itself.

  • William_Z

    I was making an ironic comment of how the MSM used to blather about Bush 'creating more terrorists and radicalizing Muslims. Remember?