About the Birth Certificate

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Two days ago, Matt Drudge linked to a new book by Jerome Corsi, unflinchingly titled Where’s the Birth Certificate? The book immediately leapt to number one on Amazon.com, where it has remained ever since.  The media has shown its usual incredulity at the indisputable stupidity of the American people.  How could so many people question President Obama’s birthplace?  How could they wonder about his origins?  Are they all simply racist?

The answer, of course, is that Americans are desperately seeking an answer to a simple question: why does President Obama appear to be so un-American?  The term un-American here is not synonymous with anti-American (though Obama has been that on occasion); instead, it merely signifies that President Obama is unconcerned with typical American principles and traditions.  He sees capitalism as selfish and evil, religion as dangerous and oppressive; he sees the Constitution as antiquated and entrepreneurialism as exploitative.  He is the representative of the Fareed Zakaria ideology at work, celebrating the post-American world.

When America elects a president like this, many Americans begin wondering how it happened.  There are always two answers to such difficult questions: the first is optimistically externally-oriented, while the second is realistically reflexive.  It is far easier to believe that the problem of un-Americanism lies outside our borders, that within we are unified.  Hence the oddly persistent belief that politics stops at the water’s edge, that our politicians unify around foreign policy.  But that belief has been obsolete since the 1960s; hence the persistent outrage when certain politicians (see Pelosi, Nancy) travel abroad and then criticize their fellow American officeholders (see Bush, George W.).  We like to think that if we hang together, we will not hang separately.

Thus the stubborn belief that President Obama is born outside the United States.  If he was, the unspoken logic goes, we can understand where he picked up his un-American philosophy.  He is not one of us – he is rather a member of the same global community that despises America and tolerates Islamism, that slams American consumerism and praises Chinese communism, that rips evangelical Christianity while ignoring Muslim-imposed clitorectomy.  We need not worry about our domestic institutions, goes the line of thought – instead, we must focus on protecting ourselves from foreign infiltration.

More realistically, however, President Obama is the culmination of a century of foreign infiltration already in place.  The turning of America’s institutions of higher education took place decades ago; it is too little too late to focus on such infiltration now.  Beginning in the early 20th century, America’s colleges and universities were infiltrated by German thought, then thought to be the most sophisticated in the world.  That school of thought, a merger of Hegelian utopianism and Marxist classism, quickly infected America’s halls of power.  Theodore Roosevelt, always trendy, bought into the new “progressivism” with alacrity, jettisoning the Constitution and capitalism in the process.  Bringing this perverse ideology to American shores, Teddy announced, “We of to-day who stand for the Progressive movement here in the United States are not wedded to any particular kind of machinery, save solely as means to the end desired.”  This was the philosophy of incipient dictatorship.  It was brought to its near-term apex under a college professor, Woodrow Wilson, who thought that the Constitution itself needed to be stripped away.

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  • rockman2257

    This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

    The day after the 2008 election, Illinois lottery pick 3, the winner was 666.

    Just saying, find it amazing. Always figured he would be a charming fellow that can mesmerize the masses. I believe the US Presidency to be a stepping stone for President of the United Nations General Assembly.

  • Amused

    Oh what bunk .Look , there is and always has been a birth certificate , validated by the State of Hawaii , with that birth announcement listed in the hawaiian newspapers.All the "stuff " brought up on this thread is unsustantiated , debunked , Birthers -grow up….you people have CHOSEN to disregard the Facts ,and embrace the lies .

  • Amused

    And since all of thes lies you've swallowed whole ,are found primarily on the internet , well , that's also where you can find the certificate of birth , but you'll call THAT a fraud ,yet suck up anything else that agrees with your position . Intellectual dishonesty at it's best .

  • Amused

    This will be an issue in the 2012 election , for even Boener for fear of loosing supporet of Tea Party loons , cannot bring himself to state categorically that Obama is in fact a legal citizen . Trump has played this card for the sake of any run he may make for the Republican nomination , and for the same reasons 80% of Republicans hold to this lie , one way or another .A point that I have no doubts ,that the press will be relentless in exposing . Will Republicans expose themselves as morons in that election , and stick to their bogus theory , lol…you bet they will , and the electorate will take note , and it's gonna backfire on Trump or whoever Republicans put up as their candidate for none will get their without sticking tothis phony credo . LOL….good luck in 2012 . For this sells well amongst Repo-Con-Teabaggers , but not among the majority who will vote ,and those will not vote for anyone presenting themselves as irrational . To deny Fact in the face of fact is irrational .

  • Teleologicus

    And since all of thes lies you've swallowed whole ,are found primarily on the internet , well , that's also where you can find the certificate of birth , but you'll call THAT a fraud ,yet suck up anything else that agrees with your position . Intellectual dishonesty at it's best .

    An example of someone who does not understand the issues – or who prefers to avoid them. This poster does not understand the difference between the original birth certificate and the COLB, therefore does not know what the fuss is all about.

    A surprising number of Obama defenders are unacquainted with the basic facts of the controversy. They are in such a rush to ridicule and dismiss the matter that they have not bothered to learn what it is actually about!

    The poster also persists in restricting the documentation and credibility crisis facing Mr. Obama to the question of citizenship and eligibility. Skeptics and doubters are referred to as 'birthers.' But we have seen that the questions about Mr. Obama's life and the story he has told Americans about it go far beyond his birth. Because of his inexplicable secrecy about his original birth certificate, Americans have begun to pay attention and to realize how much else Barack Obama has been keeping secret from them. Almost all of the records and documents of his whole life have been withheld from the public for no known reason.

    It is neither loony nor a conspiracy theory for concerned Americans to demand to see the records that Mr. Obama has been keeping secret from them. He gives every appearance of a man who is hiding something. Americans want to know what, if anything, it is.

    Calling skeptics names and trying to ridicule them for wanting more facts about Mr. Obama is not the behavior of people who truly trust Mr. Obama and who think the truth is on his side.

    If they believed him and did not think he was hiding something, they, too, would want more information about him to be made available in order to vindicate him and justify their trust in him. They would be asking him to provide such information, not attempting to shut down questioning and to prevent more data from being made public.

    The Obama records which have not been released include:

    Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules(said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, Adoption records and of course the long-form Certificate of Live Birth.

    [Obama defenders have begun to challenge the widely circulated claim that millions of dollars in campaign legal expenses went to suppressing documents about Mr. Obama's past. They claim that these legal fees were for other and less incriminating purposes. In order to verify the truth of this claim Mr. Obama would need to authorize the release of a detailed statement of such legal expenses indicating specifically what legal work was performed. Since Mr. Obama is keeping everything else about himself secret, it is likely that he will continue to keep this information secret as well.]

    • Amused

      As I stated before the Obama for America campaign spent approx2.1 million in legal expenses for vthe campaign . McCains campaign paid approx 1.3 million in legal expenses . So although neither of thes expenses have been broken down as to how much specifically was spent to do what , where do birthers like yourself get to assume AND make the claim Obama spent 2 million in legal fees to cover up his birth certificate ? WHERE is your proof that 2 million was spent on this , when you dont know anymore than anyone else .And WHY should any such breakdown be provided ? Especially since therte is in fact a birth certificate which is just as valid as the ones MILLIONS of Americans possess . Oh but BIRTHERS want bto see a SPECIFIC type of B.C. and it must contain and be formed in the SPECIFIC way BIRTHERS want it to be , when birth certificatesa vary from state to state and also have changed in form since you or I have been born. .You also conveniently overlook the fact that Obama was a previously elected official , what no vetting there of his citizenship? And of course there is the fact that there is enough proof for any reasonable mind that he is infact a US citizen , that is reasonable except for birthers .The existing B.C.is not good enough .

      • Teleologicus

        Everything comes down to documentation.

        I do not know whether Mr. Obama was born where and to whom he claims to have been born. I do not know what is on the original birth certificate. I do not know what is contained in any of the numerous records of his entire life that he has kept secret from the American people. I do not know what his campaign legal expenses were for.

        I have no specific theory about any of this except that he seems to be hiding something. Like other Americans, I want to see his records, ALL of them, to determine whether or not he has told the truth. If he has been telling the truth and not hiding anything, there should be no reason not to release the records – ALL of them.

        If Mr. Obama's defenders trusted and believed him, they would be urging him to prove the skeptics and doubters wrong by the obvious and easy step of providing the documentation needed to do so.

        They never do this. Instead of asking him to settle the matter by providing more facts, they make excuses for his secrecy, deny that there is a problem, abuse and insult those who are merely wanting more information, and do everything in their power to silence questions and obstruct further inquiry into Mr. Obama's life.

        This is not the behavior of people who think the truth is on their side and who want the truth to be made manifest. Mr. Obama's behavior is not that of a man who knows that the facts he is withholding would verify the story he has told Americans about himself. By keeping so much of his life secret and failing to explain the reason for this, he has incurred suspicion.

        It is Mr. Obama's own fault that he has come under such suspicion. He has kept far too much secret from the American people by refusing to make his records and documents available for public inspection. He is a public employee. He works for the public. He has no business keeping anything that Americans want to know about him secret.

  • bdouglasaf1980

    Most people are missing the point of the whole birth certificate issue. The real issue should be that Obama should be treated the same as everyone else. If I have to show my birth certificate just to get a license, he should show the birth certificate to be president. The real issue is he is acting as though he is above the law. If people would state this when asked by reporters the reporters' questions would quickly stop.

  • Sid Finkel

    Obama can put everything to rest, regarding the legitamacy of his birth certificate.

    All he has to do is get a copy from the Hawaiin authorities, as the only legitimate person who can do so, and publish it.

    Rather, he insists on prolonging the situation and spend millions of dollars fighting releasing the information.

    How come he doesn't publish the document?

  • Greg the Electrician


    The Birth Certificate Issue is going to Court!

    WHERE: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals (CA)
    WHEN: May 2nd, 2011….a week from tomorrow!
    CASE NAME: “Drake Vs Obama”

    Drake’s Legal Team: The United States Justice Foundation, a non-profit 501(3)(c) group. They need contributers of course.

    The USJF said that they have a Preponderance of evidence(s) that disqualify Obama from being a Presidential Candidate.

    Their Website: http://www.usjf.net See video and other info

  • Amused

    Hawaii , has already done that , so where have you been ? And you have not a shred of evidence that 2 million in the campaigns legal fees if any have gone towards what you claim. Besides you know as well as I, that whatever is done in that regards won't be good enough ., because so far it hasn't been good enough ,after news article from that time announcing the birth and the actual BC itself ,have been produced .So the argument transgresses from release of the BC , [WHICH HAS BEEN DONE ] to now release of the legal expenses , and then what ? IF I were Obama I'd tell you all to go pound salt .And rightly so,As for alleged "secrets " ? There are none , only what birthers contrive , repeat enough times then make into mantras .

  • Amused

    Trump got up there and LIED , and you believed it .He said Obama was a foreign exchange student from Indonesia – A PROVEN LIE / Trump said no one remembers him from school -A PROVEN LIE / Trump said there is a different name on his BC -A PROVEN LIE ..
    So my conclusion since birthers have available ,all the information they claim they want to see , their demands are irrational , and because they are irrational , their argument is nt based in anything other than racism .

  • Amused

    And even if Obama were to instruct his attorneys to release that information , you birthers would claim they were lieing or paid off . But please tell me since everyone has become such legal experts, especially the "birthers " , what can attornies do , what legal action or instrument could be exercised ,to hide or alter a birth certificate already in the public record ? Bribe everyone in Hawaii ? And what about the existing news announcement in Hawaii that was printed and a matter of public record announcing his birth , the names of his parents and his given name which is exactly what it is ? Gee , was there a conspiracy back in 1960 or so that this child would bve elected president in 2008 , so lets make a phony birth anjnouncement ? As I said birthers are irrational ….and in this case just racists disguising themselves as patriots

  • Amused

    Birthers , as far as I'm concerned are just as stupid and irrational as 9/11 Truthers who claim "something other " than Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon , when EYEWITNESSES identified a passenger liner with the Airline's markings , when Architects ,Engineers , Physicists , Aeronautical Engineers , all are in agreement that it was indeed Flight 77 , a passenger liner that hit the Pentagon and gave detailed explanation for the Damage witnessed , when freelance photos minutes afterthe crash , clearly show landing gear and aircraft parts , clearly with markings , rescuers stating that they found the body parts even parts of the pilots uniforms , yet STILL they insist , it was "something else " ….this is a classic example of irrational people , unwilling to yield to FACTS and REALITY . The mentality is no different , only the agendas .

  • Amused

    And finally ….NO , he is not spending millions on hiding anything , for all references to monies spent are related to the 2 million or so that the Obama for America campaign fund spent for legal services in the election . You guys make this stuff up as you go along . "Say it enough times , and people will believe it " Gee , where have I heard those words before ?
    Shame on all of you birthers for putting your brains up on the shelf .

  • Dave Adams

    Fine. While we're at it, I want to see Abraham Lincoln's birth cetificate too.

  • Stewartsmall

    Ive always used the term LAMP to describe the Antonio Gramsci inspired infiltration of Marxism in America. Law(ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center) Academia(law schools,journalism schools, in particular) media(self-explanatory) and politics(the entire D party is now Marxist, and 1/2 the R party) . Its only been since 2008 America has started to realize(due to Oscumbag and Piglosi, largely) that our institutions are largely unamerican.

  • Vermont Yid

    As I see it, it's not just a question of his birth certificate, but other papers and records as well.

    There are two questions I'd just love to have answered.
    1: If, in fact, Obama could make this all just go away by presenting his birth certificate, (not the "certificate of live birth") college records and other papers, why has he not done so?
    2: If Obama has nothing to hide, why has he spent so much $ in legal fees to keep these things from view?

  • Teleologicus


    And finally ….NO , he is not spending millions on hiding anything , for all references to monies spent are related to the 2 million or so that the Obama for America campaign fund spent for legal services in the election . You guys make this stuff up as you go along . "Say it enough times , and people will believe it " Gee , where have I heard those words before ?
    Shame on all of you birthers for putting your brains up on the shelf .

    Mr. Obama could easily refute growing doubts and suspicious about his veracity by providing the documents needed to do so. If it is not true that he has spent millions to suppress documents, and that campaign legal expenses did not include this work, all he needs to do is to release an authentic itemized list of what his attorneys were paid to do for him. Nothing could be simpler. The same applies to all of the other suspicions about him, from the original birth certificate to the innumerable other records and documents of his life he has kept secret. All that is necessary to disprove every false claim, suspicion, rumor, allegation and innuendo is to provide the documents that will do so. We know, of course, that he refuses to do so – that he is determined to keep the actual documentation of a major part of his life hidden from public view. He refuses to give a reason for this inexplicable secrecy. This makes all sensible people suspect that he is hiding something. That is what all the fuss is about. It is no one's fault but his own. If Mr. Obama is not hiding something from Americans, he is doing the best imitation of such behavior one can imagine.

    Mr. Obama is acting like a man who is afraid of the truth and who does not want the truth to be disclosed. His supporters are acting the same way. So is the MSM. If the latter really believed and trusted Mr. Obama and did not think he was hiding something, they would be urging him to release all documents necessary to vindicate himself and put an end to the controversy. Instead, they deny the problem, make excuses for his inexplicable secrecy, try to shout down, intimidate, and ridicule skeptics asking for more facts, and do everything they can to suppress further inquiry into the truth of the matter.

    • Becky

      Really, you are saying that people are making up the stories about the legal fees involved in the Administration fighting the Birth Certificate lawsuits? There have been at least 15 lawsuits filed with respect to Obama's birth certificate. Many of those have been dismissed, but attorneys still have to do research and file motions for dismissal. Many of those dismissed cases have gone to the Appellate Court, and many to the Supreme Court…all those cases have to be briefed before they are subsequently dismissed by a court. I work in law…have for 30 years. That is a lot of of hours of research and briefing and appearances. Many the legal expenses may not in the millions, but the lawsuits are not over, and as the controversy picks up steam, so will the legal fees. Again, why can't he just produce a long form birth certificate? Again, I will ask you. What is he hiding? I was born in Cuba 51 years, and I my parents still managed to take my birth certificate out of a communist country. You mean to tell me Obama can't get his from Hawaii? Really, and turkeys have lips!

      • Amused

        Please produce evidence that ANY of the 2 million dollars the Obama Campaign fund paid to its legal representatives had anything to do with defending lawsuits which btw were turned down as frivolous by judges , since even they knew the certificate was already in the public domain . The legal fees will not as you contend ,"pick up steam " because there is no lawsuits that will get by a judge . I will predict this though , it will pick up steam , birther accusations that is , to the point where it will become a campaign issue , and that is due to Republican pandering to the loon vote , thus it will become inseperable from their platform . And that will only lessen any chance for such a party to be elected . And all because irrational people now stear the Republican party , one of which is YOU , and people like you . I suggest you get the facts .

        • Teleologicus

          Please ask Mr. Obama to provide an itemized accounting of his legal fees to the American people so we can determine whether the rumor is true that he has spent large sums to suppress documents about his past.

          Absence of proof is not proof of absence.

          And I am afraid that Mr. Obama suffers from a lack of credibility such that Americans cannot simply take his word about the legal fees. We need to see the proof.

          If the truth were on his side he would already have released such information, just as if the truth were on his side he would long since have provided documentation to settle the birth controversy and to clear up the rumors about his school and university years.

          Mr. Obama refuses to provide information because he knows that the information will not be to his credit. He is hiding something from the American people. He may be hiding several things. We won't know until we have access to the records he doesn't want us to see.

          Anyone who really believes he is telling the truth should ask him to release the documents to prove it. Insulting skeptics, denying that there are any grounds for suspicion, demanding that those who want more information about Mr. Obama prove that there is a need for such information, and all other such foolishness does him not the least bit of good. It makes his defenders look as guilty as he does by their attempts to silence questions and obstruct the production of more factual information.

  • Rich

    The one thing that has always puzzled me is where are all the girls that Barry dated? You'd think they would be on Oprah EVERY AFTERNOON exchanging war stories…..but nothing but SILENCE. Makes you wonder.

  • Samuel af Ugglas

    Why is The Obama trying to make fool of 309 million Americans?

    • Amused

      You got that wrong , it is a matter of why birthers , whatever their number are making fools of themselves . And you loons do not comprise anything close to 309 million Americans , most of which are sane , and not racists like you and your birther freinds .

  • Becky

    Whether our Potus was born here, at this point, is academic. What is troubling about him is that I find him to be so un-American. He seems to reject everything that this country stand for. I also question why one of Obama's first executive orders, signed within a few days of his oath of office, ordered that all his records be sealed? In order to get any information about his records, people have have to jump through hoops, and at the end, the White House would ultimately decide whether the records may be release or not. What is he or his cronies hiding? Let's face it…there have been many lawsuits challenging Obama's birth country, and the White House has spent millions defending them. Why not show the #@$@#$ thing? I don't trust this man, not as far as I can throw him.

  • Barbara

    Maybe his birth certificate says he is a Muslim and he does not want to admit that. Who really knows? I Do Know One Thing……… he is hiding something!!!! When ever this guy opens his mouth, it is usuall y a madeup lie unless he has his teleprompter with him….then someone else has made up a lie. Anytime this president mentions the word GREEN, or INVESTMENT, he is stealing money out of your pocket to give to the have nots!!!!! REDISTIBUTION!!!

  • jleinf

    Nothing short of the 1961 form that looks just like the Nordykes with a hospital of birth and doctors signature will due. Now release the form and end this.

  • Glennd1

    So here we go, another article calling Obama un-American, and that because perhaps he was actually born someplace else as an infant, that would explain his polices. Here's a factoid for you – John McCain wasn't born in the U.S, but rather in Panama – does that make him un-American? I am interested in seeing Obama's birth certificate, but not for the reasons cited by this Obama hating "writer". It's because Obama only produced a Certificate of Live Birth in response to these questions, and has then refused to produce an original birth certificate – something that most states require to get a drivers license or the state department requires to get a passport. I mean, why would he do that? And if there is some problem, well he should leave office. But it has nothing to do with wanting to understand why he's un-American. Newsflash – Progressives aren't un-American – they just disagree with you. The author clearly knows some of the history of the political philosophy of the left, why does he not recognize that there is much valid academic work done that supports their theories? They aren't stupid, and the reason they have take over the academy is because the conservatives left the argument, ceding the intellectual ground to them. Wake up – calling Obama un-American is the worst kind of political speech. Have some class, please!

  • Amused

    Obama has been vetted by the FBI ' just like everyone else " .The State of Hawaii has posted his birth certificate on the internet for all to see . So TELEOLOGICUS , you have no logic , Sid and bdouglasf , you have no case nor argument .You're all playing a game of semantics for if you want tosee Obamna's birth certificate just as it appears in the State of Hawaii public records ,. all you gotta do is google it . So stop insulting your own intelligence .

  • Fred Dawes

    My god look at all the people who want to understand who The pig onama is, this makes me feel great that Americans and other people want the truth over the BS And want some real Answers from this guy Barry Soetoro aka obama.

  • dfrank

    Perhaps Obama could have gotten by with only saying he couldn't locate the dang thing. At least he might have been telling the truth. But, I've heard on numerous occasions that Pelosi verified that he was a natural born citizen. Why not just go to her and demand that she produce whatever evidence she used to make that call? If she lied about that, it might not be considered so simple a matter as the usual lies we hear from politicians. If no one is going to be able to break through the firewall (media and Justice Department) protecting Obama, perhaps Pelosi's scalp would be a worthwhile consolation prize.

  • Teleologicus

    Amused ·
    Obama has been vetted by the FBI ' just like everyone else " .The State of Hawaii has posted his birth certificate on the internet for all to see . So TELEOLOGICUS , you have no logic , Sid and bdouglasf , you have no case nor argument .You're all playing a game of semantics for if you want tosee Obamna's birth certificate just as it appears in the State of Hawaii public records ,. all you gotta do is google it . So stop insulting your own intelligence .

    This poster does not understand the basic controversy because he/she does not know the difference between the original birth certificate and the COLB!

    That is the crux of the whole dispute – and the poster does not even know this. It is almost unbelievable – but it is true.

    Amazingly, this lack of comprehension of the issues is not uncommon among Obama defenders, who are so certain they are right that they don't seem to feel a need to understand the issues.

    These are the kind of people who voted for Mr. Obama and who continue to support him. They don't understand the issues – and all they do is repeat their misunderstandings and call the rest of us stupid!

    The birth certificate is but one item among many that Mr. Obama has kept secret from the American people. His entire life is under wraps. He refuses to release any of the records from any of his schools, colleges, and universities. Numerous other standard documents have been quarantined. No reasonable person can doubt that he is hiding something from Americans. We cannot be sure what he is hiding – but that he is hiding something is obvious.

    Is it true that his campaign spent millions of dollars on lawyers to suppress release of such documents? We cannot tell for sure, because among the many other things Mr. Obama refuses to make public is an itemized list of campaign legal expenses.

    Obama defenders have taken to claiming there is no proof the fees went to suppress the documents. They are correct – but the reason there is no proof is that Mr. Obama refuses to provide it. One can assume that if the information were exculpatory he would have already released it to refute what his defenders claim are false allegations.

    Friends of Mr. Obama who believe he is telling the truth should urge him to release all documents and clear his name. Defenders like "Amused," who do not even understand what the fuss is all about, do him and their cause no good by ill-informed and insulting posts such as the above.

    America has a very mysterious president. He seems to think he is above the law, that he owes the American people no explanations and no proof of his veracity. He doesn't appear to have a high regard for the truth. It is hard to know what part, if any, of the personal narrative upon which he campaigned for president upon is the truth.

    The Obama records which have not been released include:

    Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules(said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, Adoption records and of course the long-form Certificate of Live Birth.

  • Amused

    Dawes , you are a racist , and the more hysterical the epithets you blurt out , the more you make the case for it …that you are infact a racist . You're anger is rising in your posts dawes , your teeth are showing .Your charade is up . It aint about the birth certificate dawes , not with you nor any of your fellow phony patriots .

  • MarkRich

    Its been this way for decades. Mr. Shapiro is only stating what we all know to be true who have any sense of the old America. The fact is I saw Obama coming a mile away. In 2000 it became obvious to me that the public was not only divided but that a significant segment had become willing to assault the process itself to meet its ends. In '04 we saw the hate Bush sloganeering against a man not even close to being conservative. In 07-08 we saw a man with NO executive experience and an unknown past (though much was known of his beliefs) take the highest office in the world. No this is old news- the miniscule history of it is interesting but the facts are its over. The American people are toast- the genie is out of the bottle. Socialism is our life and will be progressively so for decades to come. 14.3 trillion and counting- the dye is cast.

  • Sam Deakins

    Obama's un-Americanism and anti-Americanism is not too hard to understand. Firstly, he spent several of his early formative years (age 6-10) in muslim dominated Indonesia. Look at your own life .. do you as most folks feel that those were your foundational years they were being laid? When you think of home those are the years that stir your heart.
    Secondly, Obama, has inserted and married himself into the little reported but widely spread subculture of hate and antagonism the black community harbors for America. This is especcially prevalent in cities like Chicago. He has wholeheartedly adopted the racial aspect that exists in the city he now calls home. Been there, seen that.

  • Teleologicus

    Dawes , you are a racist , and the more hysterical the epithets you blurt out , the more you make the case for it …that you are infact a racist . You're anger is rising in your posts dawes , your teeth are showing .Your charade is up . It aint about the birth certificate dawes , not with you nor any of your fellow phony patriots .

    The unfortunate habit Mr. Obama's defenders have of smearing those with whom they disagree as "racists" is objectionable on at least three points:

    1. It is rude and ill-mannered;
    2. It is never supported by facts or argument, merely asserted;
    3. It is an example of the ad hominem logical fallacy. Whether or not skeptics and critics of Mr. Obama are racists or anything else has absolutely nothing to do with the truth about Mr. Obama as contained in his secret documents.

    #3 is a serious problem for Obama defenders, almost all of whom seem to believe that by attacking and slandering anybody who wants more information about him, they are somehow standing up for the truth. Nothing could be more mistaken. By trying to prevent inquiry and by slandering those seeking the truth, such people make themselves into enemies and opponents of the truth.

    If Mr. Obama's defenders really believed him and did not think he was hiding something from the American people they would long since have urged him to come clean, release any and all documents to prove his bona fides and to refute his critics so that the doubts and suspicions about him would be laid to rest.

    But they never, ever ask him to do the obvious thing and supply more documentation to settle the controversy. Instead they deny there is a problem, make excuses for his secrecy, misrepresent the issues, insult, abuse, and ridicule skeptics, and do everything they can to discredit the search for the truth about Barack Obama. They do not believe him either. They also think he is hiding something.

  • amused at amused

    why, amused doesnt really seem all that “amused”!
    quoting from the 12/12/10 “Parade”: “I can’t spend all my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead” said President Barack Obama…hmm – did i miss seeing something here? did he have the ACTUAL Birth Certificate plastered on his forehead? when? where? i do recollect seeing a news reporter at the DNC in Chicago being told to LEAVE the public sidewalk by one of the Liberalist thugs prior to election. i guess amused either didnt see it or prefers to forget. the biggest problem i see about getting Obama thrown out can be said in 2 words: Joe Biden

  • paul

    We don’t need a birth certificate.

    Obama had ‘divided’ loyalties at birth for the simple fact that his father wasn’t a US citizen at birth. You cannot be considered a Natural Born Citizen ‘if’ you have divide loyalties at birth by definition. Birth location is irrelevant; it could be on the Moon for all it matters. This is why McCain was eligible for POTUS even though he was born outside the US because both his parents were US citizens.

    The only way Obama can legally be POTUS is ‘if’ his father wasn’t Obama Sr. but a US citizen (Frank Davis is a likely candidate). This could be the ‘embarrassment’ he is attempting to hide and explain why otherwise strong Constitutionalist on the inside council to let sleeping dogs lie.

    And for all you “it’s irrelevant we have more important issues” types. Would you mind telling me the parts of the Constitution that should be (insert bad word here) upon and which are sacred? I hold the Natural Born Clause as co-equal to all the other provisions until such time it is removed via the process within the Constitution.

  • Federale

    Of course, there is also his desparate action to keep that birth certificate secret.

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    You are correct in your particular observations.

    Indeed, any sweeping statement about the American people (and about any people for that matter) is an in accurate generalization. Here exist various kinds of American peoples. Not going into specific proportions of which of every kind, it is however more polite if a sweeping statement is flattering than vice versa…

  • Pete Kivlen

    Obama does not have an American Birth Certificate. That's been proven. He's spent a million or so to try to hide it. Jerry Corsi will explain everything on May 17, 2011. It's gonna be devastating.

  • Joe Son

    Funny seeing all you birther idiots proved wrong today. Better luck with your next tin hat conspiracy.

  • Thomas Ash

    The original has been released. Are people satisfied or thinking it’s a fake?

  • Liz

    the legal document $7 certificate of birth was shown 2 1/2 yrs ago.
    Now the Long form was released too….which is not used as a legal document as the short form birth certificate is. So our President isnt hiding anything. Why should he have to supply the long form when he already supplied the certificate? He is a Christian by the way. People need to get over it…He is the President of the USA and he is black. Get over it. Trump is out of his mind. I will vote for Obama again, cause Palin an Trump along with the fringe lunies are nuts!

  • Thomas Ash

    Trump says he’s a self-made man, but his dad was a wealthy real-estate developer. I demand to see his bank balance from ages 1 to 18. We really need to put this issue to rest.

  • Keith

    What planet did all these paranoid, conspiracy theory idiots come from?

  • davidnwatermeyer

    The article is full of hate. The replies are full of hate. Hate, hate hate. Is that what's encouraged? If we are honest we will see that we are by and large the same. Most of us want to love, to feel we belong somewhere and are important to others. Unfortunately almost without exception we fail to see these need in those who look different from us; who speak a different tongue; who call the highest power by another name. And on the subject of immigration if one considers that homo-sapiens are +/- 100 000 years old the fact that ALL Americans, (well with the exception of the .000001% natives) were immigrants if we go back a mere 500 years, it makes this whole notion of being some kind of pure American (one shudders at this notion – American genes?) highly problematic. And as regards capitalism being some kind of divine unproblematic gift from God well I think the jury is still out on that one. Or would Shapiro rather have all those who question that Holy Ideology thrown into prison? I beg of you Mr Shapiro, to feel the pain of uncertainty once again. To not judge others who you have no experience of. As a White South African I grew up in white South Africa oblivious to the horrors perpetuated by my group. In apartheid South Africa, whose Bantustans (homelands conjured up by the white government for ALL black) were recognized only by Israel (who by the why had a nice little nuclear secret sharing project going on the side with that Evil government), it was so Bloody easy to negate the experience of blacks. It is so easy likewise to negate the experience of gays; of women etc. etc. That is why : – "Traditional history courses were torn down in favor of “queer” studies, black studies, Asian studies, women’s studies; language was deconstructed in order to remove its capitalistic foundations; traditional sexual mores were torn asunder in the name of “tolerance.”" By God Mr. Shapiro would you have favored that all such things never came to the fore at that such evils as apartheid were alive and well? Be humble and cry, You must learn to see that others too – have an "I".

  • http://www.teapartypowerhour.com Mark Gillar

    Jerome Corsi discusses his latest New York Times Best-Seller with Conservative Radio talk show host Mark Gillar.

  • kansascountry

    And he had to have a BC to get a passport. Not the certification issued in 2007, but the original. Where is it?



    BUSH = WAR!!!!

    BUSH + many soldiers dead = FAIL
    Obombya + many soldiers dead = SUCCESS!

  • http://www.vitreousfloaters.com gellero

    All the democrats voted for war….and they had access to intelligence reports