Denying Asylum to a Gay Saudi Diplomat

Pages: 1 2

This decision also needs to be viewed within the larger context of Western asylum policies.  Throughout the Western world, asylum policies are nothing less than a joke.  In some countries, an overwhelming majority of those admitted as “refugees” are nothing of the kind; they claim to be escaping certain oppression, imprisonment, torture, or even death in their home countries, and as soon as they get their hands on a Western passport they start commuting back and forth between their new “homes,” where they collect generous welfare benefits, and the countries from which they supposedly “escaped,” where they use those welfare benefits to build lavish second homes, keep their second and third wives and multitudinous progeny in luxury, and employ servants (or buy slaves).  Even more absurd are cases like those of Norway’s Mullah Krekar, a terrorist monster of the first water who lives as a free man in Oslo and whom the government will not return to Iraq because it is feared he may face punishment there.  And then there are the foaming-at-the-mouth imams and other inciters of anti-Western mischief who can give all the public speeches they want calling for the destruction of the countries that have given them food, shelter, and a comfortable unearned income without having to fear expulsion.

Yet the same countries who roll out the red carpet for these fake refugees, terrorists, and loudmouth enemies within have routinely turned down asylum applications from precisely the kind of people whom they should be letting in from Muslim countries – among them members of persecuted religious groups (Christians, Jews, Ahmadi Muslims, Ba’hais, Hindus, Buddhists, and so on), outspoken atheists, women who don’t want to be treated like cattle, and gays who would prefer to keep their heads.  The U.S. and many Western countries have routinely sent gay asylum seekers back to the Muslim world on the grounds that, well, they’ll be OK as long as they refrain from acting on their sexual orientation.  Rarely do the people making these decisions seem to ask themselves: Does this person want to live here for the right reasons?  Does he share our love of freedom?  Will he be a good and loyal citizen if we let him in?  Too often, indeed, perversely, the people who get into the West most easily are those who hate the West and its freedoms the most.  How many Saudi students, for example, are at colleges in the U.S. right now, busily participating in the anti-American and anti-Semitic antics of Muslim Student Associations?  How can any American Commander in Chief with a shred of genuine decency and moral courage return to Saudi Arabia someone like Asseri – who simply wants to breathe free – when the U.S. is full of Saudis for whom the very word freedom is anathema?

Freedom Center pamphlets now available on Kindle: Click here.

Pages: 1 2

  • sononthe_beach

    How can you be sure that this guy isn't a trojan queen? He gets asylum, dresses up for the gay parades, does a little dirty dancing, smokes a few hundred skin flutes, and then blows himself up in a Walmart. You cannot trust these guys to tell the truth about their intentions.

    • Gary Rumain

      Of course. They all spout takiya and they are all arselifters of one sort or another.

    • Ezra

      At least there would be one less Walmart in the world.

      • zionista

        A jerk like you would have no problem with the hundreds of innocents killed if a practitioner of the 'religion of peace' blew himself up in that same Walmart.

  • intrcptr2

    I am Christian, and do accept that "doing" homosexuality (I also reject Freudian/psychologial constructs like homosexual identity) is sinful, just like lying, stealing, etc.

    Having said this, I also feel quite strongly that this man is indeed just the type who America should be providing asylum to (I will admit the small risk identified by sononthe_beach). Bruce is absolutely correct in this article. America ought to be the land of the free, and this is a perfect chance for us to demonstrate, as has been claimed so often that we need to, that we are different and better than those who wish to destroy this nation, or scorn its freedoms.

    • Matt

      Like you, I too am an evangelical christian & I strongly disagree with homosexuality & everything it entails however, just like everone else, I am far from perfect & connot see how, on moral grounds, that this man should not be given assylum when you consider that he is as good as dead should he return to Saudi.
      This is a classic case of shamfull self interest on behalf of the Obama Gov't.

      • intrcptr2

        Thank you, Matt.


    • guest

      Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. — Leviticus 18:22

      So, the decent law abiding contributing people who have waited in line 10 years to come here can continue to wait so we can let someone in who religiously wants the constitution overthrown for Sharia Law (Allah's Law over man) come in first?

      By definition many Mosque attending Muslims are seditionists, wanting to overthrow the constitution that I swore an oath to defend, to replace it with Sharia, and according to the Koranic teachings, eliminate Christians as they are actively doing in Egypt?

      • intrcptr2

        ALL asylum seekers get to jump the line, that is nothing new.

        Nor is judging the man based upon from what country he hails, we once called that bigotry. The way to defend the Constitution is not by prejudging those who seek our protection but rather by shoring up the defenses we already have and enforcing the laws here, unlike what is going on in France, Norway, England, and Detroit.

    • Ty Ramey

      Well, I'm not a Christian. I am gay. And I have studied your religion rigorously. I addcept that "doing Christianity" the way you do it is evil, anti-Christian, anti-Jesus and disgusting. You need to haul out your Bible and get some reading comprehension lessons. And exactly WHEN did you choose to be straight? Christianity (real) is a choice…choosing to pervert it is a choice. Sexual identity….not a choice. Idiot.

      • intrcptr2

        Hi Ty.
        While I am happy to hear that you study the Bible (But I dare say not likely more than me), I am saddened by your rejection of Jesus' heart and teachings.
        I'm sure you'll recognize the passage from the URL coding…

        Sexual identity does not exist, outside of Freud's (And those who choose to agree with him) mind. Sexual behavior is a choice, my friend, just like stealing, and lying, and insulting people you've never met and don't know from Adam (Or Eve or Steve).
        When you divine just exactly what I think or believe beyond what I've just written, then we can talk.

        Until then, please do not judge me in the name of the man who loved you more than anyone you have ever met, and died so that all that anger and pain in your heart could disappear on his cross.

  • ZRK

    If this man wanted to blow up Walmart (says more about Americans than him), then he would have done so the moment we rescinded any possibility of him living. By condemning him to death in his country, just as we have done to many in the Middle East, we continue to ask to have our corporate overlords blown up. It is obvious that this man and many others sent back are of no threat, but your disapproval of gays and Muslims puts blood on your hands and there is no escaping it. Instead of making a friend with a diplomat who has spent time in our country, we throw him to the wolves in order to appease an enemy who will never respect us and has repeatedly shown so.
    But hey, I guess anything is logical in the mind of consumer America.

  • theleastthreat

    How can this make anything better between the US and the Saudis? Fake his death and give him a new identity.

  • Herman Caintonette

    As if anyone here really gives a damn about the LGBT community….

    • tanstaafl

      Sorry, HC. My church voted to be a welcoming congregation.

    • Buddy

      That's cool. They are among the few voices trying to save this man's life. Most likely the entire MSM will just ignore this story and he'll be murdered very quietly for being a gay man. And you won't put the word out either, it's more fun to take a few jabs at some of the few people who spoke a word in his defense. When he's dead, nobody will know, he'll just be a dead gay Saudi and you'll still have that righteous stance, won't you?

    • intrcptr2

      Yeah, that fits in nicely with the entire purpose of the article;
      Hey!! Let's write an article about how great it is that Pres Obama's adminstration has just rejected another plea for asylum from the Muslim world!!

      You are Exhibit A in the People v. the American Educational Establishment

    • fmobler

      The truth is that conservatives care a great deal about the actual human rights of people, and give a lot more than a damn about individuals. OTOH, the idea of a community having rights is a really, really bad one because it confounds the entire idea of personhood on which rights are founded.

      It is quite possible to give a damn about this person's rights and humanity without having to give a damn about a mythical community.

      BTW, I know a quite few L's and G's, who are not too keen on the T's. Most violence against T's is committed by G's — ask any big city police department. There is also a strong bias to treat B's as just half-closeted L's and G's, or O's (omnisexuals, who'll hump anything). So don't try to claim any coherence to the whole LGBT community thing. The rights of individuals has nothing to do with that spend wad of an idea.

  • Dispozadaburka

    Don't you realize that the Saudi's are our "friends?"
    Obama even kissed the Saudi King.
    Most of the 200 mosques built post-9 11 were built by the Saudi's.
    Route 7 in Northern Virginia has the nick-name Wahabi Highway.
    Why should we upset our "friends?"

    • MRobs

      He bowed down to the Saudi King also!

  • Rifleman

    The gay Saudi diplomat should have pretended he was a commie, and he would be in like Flint.

  • StephenD

    Say it with me…Money Talks! This guy's life is of no concern to the Administration. We could have known before going in how this would have played out.
    Remember, this is the same President that, after the shooting in Arizona he choked up talking about a 10 year old girl that got shot and how tragic this was(because he cares so deeply for children don't you know) and yet HE granted a waiver from the law banning aid to 4 countries that still use children as soldiers! How…Why would ANYONE ever think they could justify granting a waiver for such an anti-human rights move is beyond me. Do you think one gay man's life is going to move him? LOL

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Saudi Arabia is the most backward country in the Muslim world.  Across the Western world the Saudi government has lavishly funded mosques, madrassas, Muslim organizations, and Islamic Studies programs which preach and teach the most extreme, anti-Western, anti-democratic attitudes.  Saudi cash has turned Middle Eastern Studies scholars and retired Western diplomats into amoral PR flacks for the Saudi regime.

    Saudi cash has also completely corrupted the two Bush administrations, the Clinton administration, and the Obama administration. It also has completely corrupted practically all Euro-bureaucrats as well. In other words, the Saudis along with their allies – the Gulf State Emirs – are the primary fianancers, funders, and backers of the stealth global jihad, as not only have they quietly funded all of the above behind the scenes, including mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of demographic conquest, but also Pakistan's nuclear weapons arsenal and nuclear weapons program are solely owned subsidiaries of Saudi Arabia, as it is always better to deflect the spotlight off the Saudis.

    Indeed, there is no way Pakistan could have possibly financed that nuclear weapons program on their own. In fact, Pakistan's nuclear weapons arsenal is also the Saudis' nuclear weapons arsenal, and along with Iran's nuclear weapons program, must also be eventually destroyed.

    Eventually, the Mideast oilfields must be seized by the West and the immense unearned oil wealth of the Saudis and the Gulf State Emirs confiscated, as the Saudis and the Gulf State Emirs will inevitably continue using those resources to finance, fund, and back jihad, per the dictates of Islam, against the West perpetually forever.

    • garretso

      You are absolutely correct.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    There is no way of knowing how many Western Muslims have been transformed into jihadists with the help of Saudi money.

    I hate to rain on the writers parade, but per the dictates of Islam, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS are jihadists. A few of them are violent jihadists, while most of them are non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists, and the few that aren't jihadists aren't Muslims at all, but blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of Islam should be executed.

    Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis. 

    Actually, 9/11 wasn't perpetrated by terrorists as all. That's PC multiculturalism run amuck! It was perpetrated by Muslim jihadists who were holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme.

    Terrorism is a product of Western civilization only and as its name implies always involves violence that is perpetrated primarily against civilian non-combatants by political extremists for any number of political causes.

    Whereas jihad, on the other hand, is a product of Islamic civilization only, in stark contrast to terrorism can be both violent and non-violent, is waged or perpetrated primarily against non-Muslim unbelievers, either civilian non-combatants as in the case of the Madrid Train bombing, or military combatants as in the case in Afghanistan and Iraq, is always waged or perpetrated strictly only by MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS as opposed to political extremists as in the case of terrorism, and is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme, in stark contrast to terrorism which can be for any number of political causes.

    Because the writer of this article is blinded by PC multiculturalism which pervades our society, he has been conditioned to naively conflate and morally equates jihad with terrorism, which as its name implies is always violent, and this seemingly innocuous mistake causes the many varieties of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, which relative to the violent varieties of jihad takes place astronomically far more prevalently, to be able to freely take place today in the West completely unacknowledged and unopposed. It's almost diabolical the way PC multiculturalism works to blind our society.

    In fact, if the writer of this article, who often writes articles denouncing PC multiculturalism himself, wasn't also blinded by PC multiculturalism as well, he would understand fully that per the dictates of Islam, specifically the sixth and most important pillar of Islam, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS are jihadists and the ones that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of Islam should be executed.

    He would also understand as well that although non-violent, mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest is a from of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad. However, because he has become so conditioned to always conflate and morally equate jihad with terrorism, which as its name implies is always violent, he thus ignores the many non-violent stealth and deceptive varieties of jihad. Like I said, the insidious way PC multiculturalism blinds our society is diabolical.

    Yet ever since 9/11 U.S. leaders have bent over backwards to send out the message that the Saudis are our friends.  This has been a bipartisan disgrace. 

    You can say that again brother!

    among them members of persecuted religious groups (Christians, Jews, Ahmadi Muslims, Ba’hais, Hindus, Buddhists, and so on)

    Let's drop the Ahmadi Muslims from this list dude. I realize they are considered to be blasphemous apostates by MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX ISLAM, but lets let the Muslims sort out their own internal problems. We can't solve all the world's problems.

    With respect to Asseri, if he denounces Islam, which should be a perquisite, he should be granted asylum, and in fact if he isn't granted asylum, then the US will have his blood on its hands when he is inevitably beheaded.

  • waterwillows

    Gay muslims for the most part don't want to denounce Islam. They love it.
    Even non-muslims that are gay love it, so I wouldn't hold out much hope for any denouncing from them.

    • johnnywoods

      What a shock non-muslim homosexuals are in for if shariah law is ever enforced here. Can you say, "useful idiots"?

  • Philosopher

    Saudi diplomats and officials regularly demonize non-muslims and virtually murder them with their pro-jihadist support and aid. It is their policy to do so. Now we have the case of one of those Saudi diplomats who finds himself in the category of Kaffir and he will be executed. I think we can call this one karma or poetic justice. Hooray!

  • Jake

    At least we know now that there is one group of people which trumps gays on the politically correct totem pole of human value. In this new Orwellian world, where "equality" is the new proclaimed moral absolute, it is instructive to know that this one group which apparently is "more equal than all others" (to the point where we send people to their deaths to appease them) is the wealthy and radical Muslims of that barbaric and intolerant land of the House of Saud. Soon, as Obama has already done, we may all be forced to bow down to them.

  • joy52

    The guy was a Saudi. 'Nuff said. He just got caught. Like another commenter said, could be an act so he can blow himself up later. Or, maybe it's not an act and he blows himself up later. Let's save our do-goodism for people who like us. I hope I'm alive to see us stop having anything to do with them.

  • joe

    Obama is a Slave of the Arabs(Slave abd Blcak is the same word in Arab…).

  • LindaRivera

    This is against everything our country has stood for; our strong belief in justice, freedom and human rights for all people. The people responsible for sending him back will have blood on their hands.

    I know that desperate, persecuted Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc. are turned down for asylum (from Muslim countries), but did not know this also included gays. The people refused asylum are the very people who would make excellent, trustworthy citizens in our Western countries.

    As for comments that the diplomat is lying so he can blow up. That is ridiculous. If he wanted to blow up, he would already have done so.

  • MRobs

    No muslim should be granted asylum in the US until they denounce and reject the religion of prepetual violence, death, rape, pedophilia, etc….. If we do not begin to reject and eject Islam from our shores we will witness our own destruction – just like Europe. England has pretty much become the 58th muslim state, Sweeden – 59, France – 60 and so on.

  • LindaRivera

    Can Mr. Bawer put a petition on the internet that we can sign?
    Possibly, also give a phone number we can call?

  • mrbean

    I wasn't aware that being a peter puffer or a packer of the fudge was a criteria for political asylum. I guess they frown upon that widely parcticed Arab lifestyle openly in Muslim countries.

  • winston

    what "Saudis" you reckon did all this (with 2 airplanes no less!)
    Keep dreaming.

  • winston
  • tanstaafl

    In Islam, it is halal to have sex with boys. However, it is haram for a man to love another man. Everybody clear on that? Sex, halal. Love, haram.

    Mr. Bean – let's watch our language.

    • garretso

      Boys – OK
      Men – Not OK
      There is a word for that in English… starts with a "P"

  • hank

    Perverion is highly illegal in Saudi Arabia ! Shyt packers, BEWARE!

  • George Jochnowiitz

    If Yasir Arafat had come out of the closet
    the world of Islam might have been shaken up and accepted the right of homosexuals to live.
    A different alternative for Arafat: He could have applied for political asylum in Israel, where homosexuals live in peace and harmony and enjoy the benefits of democracy.
    Perhaps it's not too late for this Saudi diplomat to ask Israel for asylum. That would teach Obama that Israel is a model of freedom.

    • waterwillows

      You may have noticed that when gay men came out of the closet….straight men got thrown into the closet and the door got locked without a key.
      You have already lost your right to even debate the merits and downfalls of the gay lifestyle.
      Some freedom. More like oppression in reverse.

      • George Jochnowiitz

        How do you explain the fact that Obama is married to a woman? Shouldn't a politician be afraid to do that?
        You may not believe this, but I actually saw a teenage boy and a teenage girl kissing each other yesterday.

  • Malcolm

    This raises an obvious question: is tha applicant under conviction, prosecution, or even investigation, for homosexual activity in Saudi Arabia? Because if he isn't, he is not being persecuted. Neither Saudi Arabia, nor any other country, penalises being attracted to the same sex. All he has to do to avoid punishment is simply not to get involved in homosexual activity – in other words practise the same chastity which is expected of every unmarried heterosexual in every decent society.

    • Dr. Murphy

      In "decent" society heterosexual rape, pillage, molest, harass, and everything that is abominable and, particularly Muslims rape their servants from other countries. Nice try, but being Muslim is a bitch.

  • Kenneth Olsen
  • Lady_dr

    The whole point of this story is that Obama and his administration are a bunch of liars and were only sucking up to the gay community to get votes and money. I've no idea if this guy has jihadi inclinations, but the fact is the real problem is that this regime and other clueless leftest are eager to let in free-loading 3rd worlders (including those with large and dependent family) whereas this guy isn't too likely to be making babies or bringing a load of dependent in-laws into the country. Would I rather see fewer adult males kissing each other and wearing dresses? Yes. But that said I realize most of them are doing it out of public view, AND this guy's life is at stake. Get it?

  • Muslimguest

    Im muslim, I hate the idea of Zionism (not Jews). I believe that homosexuality is a sin and so does 'REAL' practicing Christians. This is a muslim-bashing moment for all you ignorant people. Have fun and know that no matter how much you hate on Islam you cant block the light. And by light I mean the truth.

  • Muslim-guru

    This is the stupidest thing I've heard! The prophet married Aysha at the age of 9.. we don't know if he had sexual contact with her till a certain age as she wasn't impregnated. And even if it did happen the society 1500 years ago has changed. It was based on societal views on when a female becomes a woman. You wouldn't marry a girl thats 16 years old now or your cousin but its certainly lawful. About raping boys being permissible… I hope you fry in hell for your lies.

    • tanstaafl

      This is a taquiyya-free zone. What I have said is common knowledge to all Muslims worldwide – Mohammed was a pedophile.

  • TRuth Speaker

    You are arguing for gay rights for an abusive man who tortured his own manservent and sexually abused him repeatedly before killing him. I don't care a fig whether he is gay, green or what. He killed and tortured someone.That makes him deserving of severe punishment and not asylum.

  • admin

    The will be killed because he is gay argument is very weak. It's just a tactic to get US citizenship. Saudi Arabia has the highest gay ratio on earth. They all indulge in gay sex as long as it is kept quiet and you pretend it is not gay.