Obama’s Libyan Disaster

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Most important, there is the issue of who exactly is going to take Gaddafi’s place as the rulers of Libya. The heartland of the rebellion, eastern Libya and the towns of Benghazi and Darnah, is the home of the al Qaeda-affiliated Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). Jihadist personnel files captured in Iraq revealed that on a per capita basis, Libyans comprised the largest percentage of foreign insurgents, 85% of whom were suicide bombers. The veterans of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan no doubt have learned there techniques for fashioning IEDs. With the collapse of Gaddafi’s regime, these fighters have now gained access to weapons looted from arms depots, and can use the plundered mortars and artillery shells to make roadside bombs. Moreover, the LGIF played a major role in the take-over of Tripoli and the capture of Gaddafi’s compound. Their commander, Abd Al-Hakim Belhadj, is now a major force in the NTC and the commander of the Tripoli garrison. He is also an al Qaeda veteran from Afghanistan who has gone on record rejecting any coexistence with “Crusaders” except in the form of jihad. His fighters will undoubtedly be an important factor in the maelstrom of ethnic, sectarian, and tribal conflicts that will follow Gaddafi’s death, and that now will soon be financed by the 1.6 million barrels of oil Libya can produce a day.

Given these realities, it is fanciful to think a stable liberal democracy favorable to Western interests is going to replace the Gaddafi regime. As Abdul-Jalil’s celebratory speech reveals, it is very likely that the better-organized Islamist elements will come to the fore, as they have in next-door Egypt. Why else would other jihadist organizations have supported the rebels? Nor should these Islamist portents surprise us, given what we were told months ago by the NTC’s draft constitutional charter, which says, “Islam is the religion of the state, and the principal source of legislation is Islamic Jurisprudence (Shari’a).” This statement, confirmed by Jalil’s remarks, should make us worry about what sort of regime, if any, will emerge from the coming violent clashes among the various heavily armed factions now roaming Libya. After all, Islam is the only unifying force in a country torn by tribal loyalties and geographical divisions. Thus even if the new government institutionalizes “human rights” and “freedom,” it will likely be the “freedom” to live like a good Muslim according to “human rights” as defined by Shari’a law, including polygamy, which Jalil has already legalized by decree. At that point, we will have colluded in the removal of a creepy dictator who nonetheless represented no threat to our national interests, and replaced him with an Islamist regime sympathetic to the jihadist outfits we are battling across the globe.

Rather than a foreign policy “success” or proof of the superiority of “collective action,” Obama’s Libyan adventure is one more geopolitical disaster to go along with his failure to deal with Iran’s nuclear ambitions, the increasingly active hostility of Pakistan, the compromising of Israel’s security with demands for concessions, and the plans to make a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq by year’s end. Just as in Egypt, we have helped bring down a regime that represented no direct national security threat and served our interests, without any clear knowledge of who will replace them. We have colluded in a transparent fraud, claiming that we were intervening in Libya to stop a massacre, when in fact our obvious aim was the removal of Gaddafi. Worse yet, we have indulged, for the whole world to see, the hypocrisy of plucking the low-hanging fruit like Gaddafi on humanitarian pretexts, all the while we do nothing about the on-going massacres perpetrated by Syria’s Bashar al-Assad. And we have cleared the space for the emergence of another Islamist regime in the Middle East. The only lesson we have taught the world is that being America’s enemy is better for a dictator’s long-term survival than being our friend.

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  • Steve

    But isn't this what Obama was aiming for all along?

    • Beth

      I believe so

    • Roy

      Everything that Obama has done is exactly what he meant by Changing America when he ran for president. In his eyes and all of his socialist followers he is a complete success.

  • http://www.microtopia.org aligzanduh

    Please also bear in mind that Gadaffi though a bullying autocrat running a police state – brought Libya to have the highest metrics of any country in africa on life span, education and the like. No one was homeless in Libya. He had a v low prison population he supported Mandela when we called Mandela a terrorist. Blacks, Women, And the two biggest tribes along with many other tribes prefer Gadaffi's Jamahiriya to a Western Imposed Jihaadist Terror State. The world is not black and white – it is a complex place. And Gadaffi was neither good nor evil. He was a bedouin who transformed Libya and like castro would not leave power.

    • Bertram Cabot Jr.

      And he made the trains run on time, too!

    • tanstaafl

      Life is black and white. Good vs Evil.

      • mlcblog

        I do agree, but there are subtleties when dealing with imperfect (all of us) people, and someone who can make lots of folks happy is a natural leader.

    • ziontruth

      You're just confirming that, in the Islamic world, the only choice is between bad and badder: Between a brutal semi-secular dictatorship and an even more brutal Islamic theocracy.

    • UCSPanther

      Funny. I thought all the anti-zionists/anti-americans were all eager to throw Gaddafi under the bus, albeit with a little more reluctance than they were with regards to Hosni Mubarak and Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.

    • WSK

      Ask the victims of PanAm flight 103 if Kaddafyduck was evil. Whoops, can't do that.

  • Reason_For_Life

    After three years of trying Obama finally manages to establish a Shariah state tying him with Jimmy Carter who has one Shariah state to his credit. Obama hopes to put up a second state on the Shariah scoreboard which will tie him with George Bush the current champion with Shariah states in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Bush, who conquered more territory for Islam than anyone since Saladin stands to drop into second place if Obama can succeed in both Syria and Turkey.

    With most of the Middle East conquered the next American president will have to look to Europe and Asia if he wants to continue the spread of Shariah.

    • mlcblog

      Awesome and eery observations.

  • Amused

    Yea imagine that , Libya was such a 'good country " with a "good badguy dictator " , and everyone there was so happy , even those who were dirt poor and had nothing , those who were tortutured jailed and killed , yes so happy ,that they revolted against a tyrant …..and Obama ruined it all !
    As for the other sentiments expressed above , well , we "dragged the British into Iraq and Afghhanistan ".

    LOL….and if Gaddafy was left to his own dervices , and slaughtered part of Libya's population , you'd all be screaming Obama did nothing .
    The right has become a bunch of Rush Limbaugh clones . More proof that morality , and doing the right thing is so obviously linked to partisan politics and nothing else . Remember how everyone screamed about the Clinton Admin. not doiung anything about the Hutu and Tutsi slaughter fest in Africa ? Or the pressure put on [by the right ] to intervene in Yugoslavia's break up and civil wars ? The Sebs although Christians were the bad guys , because they were supported by bthe godless Russians . Partisan politics as usual . What a bunch of unmitigated hypocrites and phonies .

    • WildJew

      Obama's got several prominent Republicans on his side. GOP Rising star, Senator Marco Rubio has praised Obama's actions in Libya – albeit (he) "did not commit enough forces quickly enough" – as has Senator John McCain. A few weeks back, McCain, Mark Kirk of Illinois, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Marco Rubio traveled to Libya.

      There these prominent Republicans met with the nation's new rulers. McCain said: "They have paid an enormous price for their freedom, but the sacrifice of the Libyan people has delivered their great nation to the shores of a new world full of new hope; a chance for all Libyans to know lasting peace, dignity and justice."

      Robert Spencer (Jihad Watch) is one of few who's been warning about the outcome of this misadventure for many months.

    • mrbean

      Obama is Carter II . In retrospect, the Iran-Iraq War would never have occurred had Jimmy Carter not weakened the Shah's regime. This conflict cost the two nations more than 500,000 lives, including thousands of Iranians killed by Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons. The Iran-Iraq war triggered the rise of Saddam Hussein as a major power whose invasion of Kuwait was repelled by Desert Storm. The United States refrained from deposing Saddam Hussein in a continuation of the Desert Storm operation out of concern that the resulting "power vacuum" would be filled by Iran's Ayatollahs. The same result will occur in Libya.

    • ziontruth

      For once, Amused, you can get a goodly number of anti-Obama people to agree with you Bush wasn't better in that regard, yet you think partisanship is blinding people. It appears the only partisanship is yours.

      "…and if Gaddafy was left to his own dervices , and slaughtered part of Libya's population , you'd all be screaming Obama did nothing ."

      Who would? Not me, not many others. I think it was only with regard to the uprising in Iran, which was perceived to be against an Islamic regime, that Obama was condemned for not helping the uprisers; in all other cases, most former Iraq War supporters have come to their senses and realized there's little chance of true democratic flowers growing in the Islamic deserts.

    • sod

      The lives lost in those conflicts around the world is dwarfed by millions of innocent babies slaughtered here in the US under the left's so politically correct 'pro choice' movement. How conveniently they forgot that fact on purpose when they try to blame every thing on the right?

      By judging the right is hypocrities and phonies actually tells the world that the left is no different, maybe worse by their own standards.

    • arcadiaP

      You seem to think that the regime that we helped put in power will be better for humanity, well my friend you could not be more wrong. If you are a westerner then you most likely are ignorant of what Shariah law will bring in its wake. I see you have bought into this Arab spring crap.

    • Tatarewicz

      Generally correct except for one error.

      He accomplished precisely what he was ordered to do by his Israeli lobby superiors.

      After all it’s the lobby that arranges the funding, manpower and media for the politicos in Washington and thus is able to direct US foreign policy. Libya presented a threat to Israel by Gadaffi calling for a return of lands stolen by Zionist terrorists to the original Palestinian inhabitants.

  • Diann

    Only the truly naiive are suprised that the Arab Spring countries have chosen Sharia based politics. I think we should stay out of these countries becasue although we spend trillions of dollars with the rhetoric to 'bring freedom and democracy', the fact is that under Islam they cannot have such freedoms. As long as they choose Islam, countries are condemned to the brutality of Sharia. Such theological brainwashing is accomplished when there is an inability to challenge the religion that rules Muslim lives. When will we begin to defend our own country from such fate? Better get started soon or it will be too late.

    • aspacia

      Steyn has written extensively regarding this threat.

  • http://santanstrinity.com C"H"Martel

    My book, "Satan's Trinity: Hitler, Stalin & Muhammad," will be available within the month and one may pre-order at http://www.satanstrinity.wordpress.com/ For the first time in history "HSM" appear together on a book cover. The idea behind the book is to make headway against the ludicrous idea that Muhammad should be conjoined with any religious leader/founder. Once this comparison, driven by actual names, has been made then it must be attacked. Once the attack has been launched then the attackers will be forced to defend their attack. Since the attack is indefensible then the "religion" Muhammad (if he existed) founded will begin to be viewed as the scam it is. This book has been written under the principle of KISS. And nothing is simpler to understand than Hitler and Stalin…..and now, Muhammad. Thank you for your time…….C"H"Martel

  • Elliott Alhadeff

    Israel beware. The deed is done. Our concern now should focus on the appropriate action to take to defend against this obvious Islamic threat while confronting the naively politically correct who will violently oppose and demonize our overt and covert effort to defend our national interests. Who is up to the task? Herman Cain? Mit Romney? Newt Gingrich!

  • StephenD

    We had no business with Libya. We have no business with Uganda. We ignore Iran and Syria and now turn a deaf ear to the sword rattling of Turkey toward our friend, Israel. Egypt is on the brink and will likely end up under the M.B.
    Yep, everything is going exactly as an Anti-American, Pro-Islamist, Socialist Operative would want it to go. If your goal was to undermine American interests abroad and weaken American standing throughout the world and its domestic tranquility through class warfare at home, we must say "Job well done!"

  • Spider

    Chock up another victory for Housein the MU-SLIM King..

  • AntiSharia

    From the frying pan to the fire. By this time next year it's certain that Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Syria, and probably Iraq, will all be Sharia states, and probably under Iranian influence.

    Heck of a job Obama.

  • BS77

    The real victims in Libya are the children, women, the elderly and the poor….now you have a deeply damaged nation, torn to pieces by NATO and war….with soaring unemployment, devastating destruction of the poor nation's infrastructure….militant fundamentalists, much like the Taliban , are ready to turn Libya into another backward hell hole. The international community will have to spend billions to aid Libya now…just for the essentials…water, food, shelter, medical care and re building. It will take a generation to restore Libya. .

    • ziontruth

      You're assuming the man in the Libyan street is anti-shariah. I find that an unwarranted assumption.

  • tanstaafl

    As always, leadership in a Muslim country consists of a strongman who wrests control from the other would-be dictators and rules in the name of Islam.

    This is how Mohammed did it.

  • LindaRivera

    In Libya, “The brigade for purging slaves, black skin”
    – slogan seen painted in rebel country.

    There is mostly silence about the horrors taking place against Libya’s blacks.
    STOP the GENOCIDE of Blacks by the U.S. backed cruel Libya rebels!

    The Obama-supported rebels left in charge are now conducting a “large scale cleaning in the areas under their control with the extermination of all blacks in the capital”, according to The Independent.

    Barbaric atrocities, kidnappings and ruthless genocide of blacks in Libya by US/France/NATO backed Al-Qaeda/Hezbollah rebels has been going on for months.

    US/NATO who have waged war for months for Hezbollah and Al-Qaeda
    who MURDER our troops in Iraq-are RESPONSIBLE for stopping the genocide.

    US/NATO are also responsible for rescuing the many terrified blacks kidnapped by the rebels, including the kidnapped black children who have been horrifically abused by the black-hater Muslim rebels.

    Blacks must have human rights!


  • LindaRivera

    United together in JIHAD, US/NATO, Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah triumph over Libya.

    Admiral James Stavridis, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, and the commander of the U.S. European Command told the U.S. Senate that Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah fighters are among the Libyan rebels currently receiving support from the US and its NATO allies. This was confirmed by one of the Libyan rebel officers, Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, who leads one of the Al-Qaeda units.

    U.S/NATO joined with Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah terrorists to wage war.
    Gadaffi did some terrible things. But US/NATO consider barbaric Al Qaeda and barbaric Hezbollah to be good guys to be placed in power in Libya? US/NATO have great guilt in making the world a far more dangerous place.

  • LindaRivera

    WorldNetDaily, AUGUST 06, 2011

    Two U.S. sources currently in Tripoli told G2Bulletin that Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Kaim, who is part of the embattled Gadhafi regime, told them that the Warfalla tribe – one of the largest in Libya – is being joined by other tribes to fight the rebels because of what is described as indiscriminate killing of civilians by Western alliance-backed troops.

    The sources said that Qatari troops, tanks and helicopters "are openly killing these unarmed tribal members. They have their Qatari tanks in the streets of Benghazi. They are actively shooting on unarmed civilians."

    Repeated NATO bombings also have included hospitals, Ramadan food storage warehouses, the country's main water distribution infrastructure, private homes and "more than 1,600 other civilian sites." http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&am

  • Asher

    This was Obama's goals all along to push forward and form One Big Islamic Caliphate, God help us and the people under Sharia in the Middle East, could be Armageddon Soon.

  • BLJ

    Obama is the best thing that has happened for radical Islam since Jimmy Carter.

  • trickyblain

    Of course, one could've written the same article in 2003 swapping "Saddam" for "Qadafi" and had a point. Oh yeah, people did and the Bush lickers called us Anti-American. Only a very very small minority of righties have the moral authority to criticize Obama on these grounds.

    Nice defense of a brutal mass-murderer, there, Thorton. No, Qadaffi was never "accepted" as an ally. And, in this case, not a single American life was lost (as opposed to 4,000-plus and upwards of a trillon dollars). Absolutely sickening hypocrites.

    • BLJ

      It takes one to know one as far as hypocrites go. If Bush had supported an overthrow of Qadaffi people like you would have crucified him. All Obama has done is give radical Islamists another country to add to their list.

      Saddam had proven in the past that he was a threat to the region which in turn made him a threat to U.S. interests. At least that lowlife got a trial before meeting the noose.
      Now Comrade O wants to abandon the Iraqi's to possibly come under the control of Iran.

      Par for the course I say.

      • trickyblain

        Nice that you have knowledge of what I 'would have" done. In reality, I would have fully supported using air power to support an Iraqi popular revolt against Saddam. Likewise, I would not have supported a full-scale ground invasion/occupation of the entire nation of Libya to overthrow Qaddaffi, no matter if it was Obama or Bush giving the order.

        Qaddaffi was implicated in more anti-US activity that Saddam. That's a fact. They were both scum, but getting rid of one was far more effective — in terms of US lives and treasure — than the other.

        A trial…lol.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Sharia in Libya, Oh Boy! how wonderful, we should have a parade and declare
    the World is now a safe place. I wonder though shouldn't the President show some
    restraint and stop throwing candy out of the White House windows?
    One if cynical might think that all of the upheaval is to keep everyone off guard
    while the family jewels are stolen and we will never see quiet and peace in
    America until law abiding, honest people are returned to public office, but
    Sharia has as good a chance as that happening the way things are going.
    "Alley Oop"…………………………………………………….William

  • ROSE

    Bruce Thornton , you have it all wrong, this is what Obama wants for his Shari law for his Muslim brotherhood countries which will consist of the whole world before long.

    In my opinion Obama is over the Muslim brotherhood. IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW IT OKLAHOMA, TEXAS AND MICHIGAN HAS SHARI LAW RIGHT NOW IN THE U.S.A.



    • trickyblain


      1) STOP YELLING.

      2) Can you cite a single Sharia law a US criminal court (including lower fed and state) has used as precedence? If so, let me know. I know some Constitutional attorneys that would have a field day.

      3) If Obama is responsible for Somalia and Tunisia and a bunch of nations he has no power over, does he rule Mars, too? Neptune? How about Venus….Jupiter? Does he rule Uranus, too? How does it make you feel having a black man violently violating Uranus?

  • WSK

    For the sake of brevity: Well, duh!

  • Suzanne Kendall

    To the victor belong the spoils – can't we at least get the oil out of these countries we helped "liberate"?

  • trickyblain

    ANyoe who supported Bush's invasion, costing thousands of American lives, of Iraq….with the EXACT SAME results (a brutal dictator biting the dust) has no room to talk. But that won't stopt them….