The Dangers of Democracy


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Given these faith-based attitudes, if a majority of Egyptians democratically vote for policies that will incorporate the prescriptions from shari’a into government policies and laws, the result will not be anything close to what we mean when we extol democracy and human rights.

Even more important than our simplistic view of democracy, and our blindness to the incompatibility of democratic principles with Islam, is our failure to acknowledge how much more significant religion is for Muslim identity than it is for ours: “In most Islamic countries,” historian Bernard Lewis writes, “religion remains a major political factor,” for “most Muslim countries are still profoundly Muslim, in a way and in a sense that most Christian countries are no longer Christian . . . in no Christian country at the present time can religious leaders count on the degree of belief and participation that remains normal in Muslim lands . . . Christian clergy do not exercise or even claim the kind of public authority that is still normal and accepted in most Muslim countries.” A Pew poll from this year confirms the truth of this observation in Egypt, where 46% of Egyptians identified themselves as Muslims first, while only 31% identified themselves as Egyptians first.

Despite all this evidence for the powerful role of religion in Muslim identity, we continue to understand the Muslim Middle East and jihadism in terms of our own categories and ideals. Thus we have tried to explain Middle Eastern political and social dysfunctions of the last 80 years in terms of nationalism, fascism, communism, economic failure, and now the illiberal dictators whose overthrow will presumably usher in a springtime of liberal democracy and political freedom that will eliminate the conditions creating jihadist terror. But all these Western-imported ideologies and explanations do not find traction with most Muslims, who see their problems as resulting from a crisis in Islam that has allowed peoples who once trembled at Allah’s armies to dominate the world. As Lewis points out, since Islam’s retreat in the 17th century in the face of European penetration of Muslim lands, “the most characteristic, significant, and original political and intellectual responses to that penetration have been Islamic. They have been concerned with the problems of the faith and the community overwhelmed by infidels.” This observation was confirmed recently by the Muslim Brothers Supreme Guide Muhammad al-Badi’: “The Muslim nation has the means [to bring about] improvement and change . . . It knows the way, the methods, and the road signs, and it has a practical role model in Allah’s Messenger, [the Prophet Muhammad] . . . who clarified how to implement the values of the [Koran] and the Sunna at every time and in every place.” Al-Badi’ further explains that this “change” will be brought about not by democracy, but by jihad: all Muslim regimes “crucially need to understand that the improvement and change that the [Muslim] nation seeks can only be attained through jihad and sacrifice and by raising a jihadi generation that pursues death just as the enemies pursue life.” Democratic elections thus are a means to an end, not the end itself. As Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan puts it, “Democracy is like a train. We shall get out when we arrive at the station we want.”

Starting with Iran, for over 30 years we have misunderstood the Middle East because we have refused to acknowledge the role of Islam as the central dynamic of most Muslim hearts and minds. Now we are indulging the magical powers attributed to “democracy” and “freedom” to continue avoiding that truth. As a result, we have colluded in the overthrow of rulers like Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, who at least served our interests, in favor of Islamist groups explicitly hostile to them, as we may soon find out when democratically elected, illiberal Islamic regimes increasingly pursue policies that threaten our security and interests.

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  • Ghulam Muhammed

    Just as Muslim political parties, now ascendant in many Arab countries, have manifestly tried to compromise and come to terms with other liberal and secular co-citizens, it is now time that Liberals and secular citizens too, start cooperating and accommodating majority views that give more emphasis to Islamic percepts even in daily life, without any necessary political compulsions. In wider Muslim world, there is an overwhelming perception, that it is the Jewish/Zionist elements that have convinced themselves, that countering Islam and Muslim political revival is the only existentialist recourse to the survival of western and Zionist world view. In fact, history is rampant as to how clash of civilizations too end up with new permutations and combinations, without necessarily settling the differences through wars and propaganda.

    • Steeloak

      "it is now time that Liberals and secular citizens too, start cooperating and accommodating majority views that give more emphasis to Islamic percepts even in daily life, without any necessary political compulsions."

      In other words, they should pay the Jizyah tax and accept their status as Dhimmis.

      • tagalog

        I think it's time that liberals and secular citizens start accommodating majority Christian views in this country, without political and judicial compulsions.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      In other words, either convert to Islam, submit to dhimmitude, or die. Isn't that the gist of what you are saying?

    • tanstaafl

      No. I will never submit.

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    The term "Democracy" means only that some things are decided by voting majority. Yet the properties of majorities dramatically differ from nation to nation. Therefore it is ludicrous to presume as though any democracy is like the Western democracy, and then to get surprised that they do not match well.

    1) The Western democracy is specifically Judeo-Christian democracy based on the Christianity, Judaism (and some concepts inherited from ancient Romans and Greeks).

    2) The Western democracy therefore must be always attached to Christianity no less than so called islamic democracy (always short term and volatile) is attached to islam.

    3) Attempts to detach Western democracy from Christianity are destructive and senseless.

    4) The coinage "Separation of Church and state" is borrowed from Bolsheviks! In the Western world this concept must only mean that religious institutions are not in the government. Yet the religion of a nation MUST be the main source of laws and morality proper to this nation.
    http://www.lc.org/media/9980/attachments/flyer_fo

    5) It is deplorable that

    " … in no Christian country at the present time can religious leaders count on the degree of belief and participation that remains normal in Muslim lands."

    That alone means decadence, decay, and finally defeat of the most successful achievement in the human history.

    • tarleton

      … in no Christian country at the present time can religious leaders count on the degree of belief and participation that remains normal in Muslim lands."

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      Well , that's hardly surprising considering that most moslems have a quasi medieval outlook on the world …kinda like 16th century europe ….western man has ''grown up '' , matured , thawed out and became enlightened
      Christendom has died a natural death here in europe ,and within a generation or two it will be same in the US …people in the western democracies have been schooled in logic and reason producing a rational, sophisticated view of things …fundamentalist christianity is hopelessly anacrhonistic …we have got to find some belief system to replace it

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Christendom has died a natural death here in europe ,and within a generation or two it will be same in the US

        If that happens here in the USA as well, then the USA exactly like you Euroloons will die out too. As hedonistic secular leftists don't reproduce at near replacement levels. In fact, the Euroloons are dying out exactly because secular leftism killed Christendom and in the process transformed the continent of Europe into the continent of Euroloons. Eventually Euroloon secular leftism will die out and when that happens all that will be remaining will be Christians and Jews. However, by that time they will be a small minority in whatever fills the vacuum to replace Euroloon secular leftism.

        ..people in the western democracies have been schooled in logic and reason producing a rational, sophisticated view of things .

        Really? Then why are they incapable of using logic and reasoning to reproduce at replacement levels? In addition, why are they incapable of defending their own cultural heritage?

        .fundamentalist christianity is hopelessly anacrhonistic …we have got to find some belief system to replace it

        Don't worry, you Euroloons will all be dead and long gone before that ever happens. In other words, it will be a cold day in hell before that ever happens.

        • tarleton

          dude , where have you been the last 40 years …science is in the process of destroying religious fundamentalism here in the West …there may well be pockets of provincialism out there in the US , but that religious frame of mind belongs back in the 19th century …you folks are religious Luddites …hopelessly anachronistic true believers in your own little worlds

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      tarleton – "…People in the western democracies have been schooled in logic and reason producing a rational, sophisticated view of things"…

      … such as unbridled hedonism, incapability to zip one's pants and wallets, legitimization and "celebration" of homosexuality (or even bestiality – in the Netherlands), self cannibalization of the own culture and prostration before islam… Great!

      Without a firm Judeo-Christian belief the Western humanity is incapable even to procreate, because bringing and raising children is nothing but an unpaid and unpleasant job for them.

      The Western democracy and civilization is the essence of Christianity and it is doomed if the authority of Christianity is not restored…

      • tarleton

        rational western man is NEVER again going to have a silly fundamentalist view of the Bible …talking snakes , miracles , virgin births , floods etc …it's clearly sometype of psychosis that holds the mind in a python like grip …Western man has grown up intellectually , matured and became rational ….all that's left of christendom is the dying embers of a once mighty fire
        It works just fine for africans and other folks in developing world countries but it will never again have an impact on the West , except maybe in a metaphorical and allagorical type of way

        • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

          "Rational western man" like you shows a very shallow understanding of science, religion, and of necessity that a society rely on a firm axiomatic given by the Highest authority.

          "Rational western men" therefore is doomed to disappear (see the above and below).

          • tarleton

            Well if rational man is doomed to disappear then so be it …but we will face our existential despair manfully without engaging in this type of child-like religious fantasies ….grow up man , and free your mind from these kind of silly delusions …you folks are religious Luddites

      • tarleton

        alex wrote
        The Western democracy and civilization is the essence of Christianity and it is doomed if the authority of Christianity is not restored…
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        makes you wonder how the Greeks had a democracy of sorts before jesus was even a twinkle in God's eye

        ''doomed if the authority of xianity is not restored '' ?…….yes xianity has a long history of incestious relationships with ''authoritarian '' regimes such as Franco's spain and the despotic czarist regimes of Russia ..it was like Trotsky said '' a country of icons and cockroaches ''….it's hardly surprising there was a revolution that swept those parasites out of there

  • radicalconservative

    We forget the important role of cultural assumptions, esp. our religious sensibilities that even rabidly anti-Christian liberals draw from. Western liberals have no idea how important Christianity is (was) to our development. Respect for individuals as individuals is not shared by Islam.

  • oldtimer

    The Muslims have been trying to rewrite history to make them look good in the eyes of the world,but they have not changed. Someone said, if you tell a lie enough it becomes true.
    Now they are rewriting the dictionary. Their idea of democracy is demonocracy.

  • alexander

    FULL U.S. employment! Stopping terrorism by defunding it! Simple solutions:
    drill wherever possible.Oh, it "does not look nice"?
    Unemployment lines and dead Americans look better?

  • Marty

    Goodness, 2 percent of egyptians have a favorable impression of Jews. That's more than 1.5 million people. One can only wonder if these egyptians have courage that is rare among arabs and muslims or if they didn't completely understand the question.

  • mrbean

    Egypt will become a an Islamic Republic and openly fund Palestinian terrorism in Gaza against Israel. This clandestine Muslim Marxist in the oval office and his post menopausal hag Secretary of State have bungled badly in both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood run chaos, Libya, Syrian chaos, Pakistan, and Iran with over 100 North Korean scientists, engineers, and technicians working in Iran will soon have nuclear weapons. The result will be a very large Mid East war whether we want it or not.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Given these faith-based attitudes,

    Hmm…Islam is not faith-based. In fact, Islam requires total, complete, and unconditional submission to the will of Allah. Thus, unlike in faith-based religions where adherents are perfectly free to question and even challenge the texts and tenets of their respective religions or to leave their respective religions or convert to another religion altogether if they so desire, in Islam, on the other hand, because the freedom of conscience is forbidden, those same actions, blasphemy in the first instance and apostasy in the second, are capital offenses.

    Indeed, what faith-based religions punish blasphemy and apostasy via capital punishment? The answer, of course, is none of them do. Proving irrefutably at the same time that Islam is not a faith-based religion as it pretends to be to dupe the societies it intends to subjugate via the imposition of Sharia into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism to make Islam supreme.

    As Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan puts it, “Democracy is like a train. We shall get out when we arrive at the station we want.”

    Democracy without freedom and liberty is not democracy. Thus, Afghanistan and Iraq's so-called democracies are not really democracies per se, as thanks to Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, a non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadist and one of many that have successfully infiltrated our PC multicultural obsessed federal government, Sharia was made the final arbiter on all matters of law in each country's respective constitutions. Thus, Afghanistan and Iraq are really Sharia states, and as a result today we are in effect lifting up, propping up, and building up what are in reality our eternal enemies, and folks it just doesn't get anymore fantasy based and counterproductive than that.

    Nevertheless, pursuing fantasy based nation-building missions to win the hearts and minds of Muslims and to establish democracy in the Islamic world as RINO establishment Republicans and their propaganda arm, Fox News Network, both advocate is absolutely impossible and a fool's game.

    Indeed, first of all, Muslims are obligated per the texts and tenets of Islam to maintain nothing but enmity in their hearts for non-Muslim unbelievers no matter what. Thus, winning hearts and minds of Muslims is absolutely impossible. Second, the freedoms and liberties that secular and liberal Western-style democracy embodies leaves the door wide open for its inevitable demise. Indeed, as Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan puts it, “Democracy is like a train. We shall get out when we arrive at the station we want.”

    • tarleton

      obama wrote
      Indeed, what faith-based religions punish blasphemy and apostasy via capital punishment? The answer, of course, is none of them do. Proving irrefutably at the same time that Islam is not a faith-based religion as it pretends to be
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      haha …It was only 3 centuries ago when blasphemy was a capital offense in many christian countries …christian nutcases launched gruesome wars against heretics …the french wars of religion and the st bartholomues day massacre are a fine example ….religion is a powerful and potent brew and the folks who overdose or get drunk on it are a MENACE …..GOD WILLS IT !

      • SpiritOf1683

        Three centuries ago in Christian countries compared with today and probably 300 years into the future in Islamic flytips like Saudi Arabia. And as you hate Christianity so much, why aren't you living in Pakistan or Iran?

        • tarleton

          criticising a comment by a deluded ''true believer '' doesn't mean that I hate xianity …i just hate propaganda , lies and gross hypocracy …there is no denial quite like religious denial …I can well understand how these types of ''true believers'' could create an Inquisition and burn heretics WELL UNDERSTAND

      • ObamaYoMoma

        haha …It was only 3 centuries ago when blasphemy was a capital offense in many christian countries …christian nutcases launched gruesome wars against heretics …the french wars of religion and the st bartholomues day massacre are a fine example ….religion is a powerful and potent brew and the folks who overdose or get drunk on it are a MENACE …..GOD WILLS IT !

        With all due disrespect, I realize you are a Euroloon and thus as a result have been subjected to a version of history that went out of its way to intentionally incite hatred way out of proportion relative to reality against Christianity. In fact, I was exposed to that same exact version of history while in college. However, I have since been expose to other versions of history that irrefutably prove that secular leftwing Euroloon historians went way out of their way to deliberately vilify and demonize Christianity way out of proportion.

        Nevertheless, when you use however you perceive Christianity to be 300 years ago to create a silly and asinine moral equivalence with Islam today 300 years later in order to go out of your way to demonize Christianity way out of proportion, it demonstrates that you are not only an obsessed bigot who hates Christianity way out of proportion to reality thanks to your indoctrination, but also that you are more than just a little unhinged as well. It also further reveals that your mind has been severely damage via the ravages of moral relativism.

        In any event, secular leftism is a dying ideology as its adherents simply are incapable of reproducing at replacement levels, while the Christians that you obsessively hate, nevertheless, are still reproducing at more than replacement levels. Thus, say what you will about Christianity, but secular leftism is simply suicidal.

  • Robert Pinkerton

    I think that one of the repercussions of Norway having declared Anders Breivik NGRI (Not Guilty [by] Reason [of] Insanity, will be unwanted psychiatric attention to people who think that Muslim immigration constitutes a "problem." Of course, this is commonly used as an excuse for avoiding and/or shutting down debate — i.e.: Repressing free speech. Daniil Lunts is alive and well and living in Norway!

  • Ben

    the century ago biggest part of Europeans knew nothing about democracy,just the word.
    Revolutions meant just a national liberation. This new game- "democracy" is played by cunning third world leaders for getting help. Useful western idiots and not idiots often play the role too. To offer democracy to medieval thinking people or to subjects of past feodal empire can people living between yeasterday and tomorrow.

  • FriendofGaryCooper

    Winston Churchill, in his 1899 book, "The River War," describes Islam as
    the "strongest retrograde force in the world," and also states, to the effect, that
    "many are the curses" that Islam lays on the heads of Muslims. He also refers to
    a "fatal apathy," that afflicts Muslims in every sphere of life. This is because there is little personal accountability in Islam, and absolutely no room for individual initiative. This is also true where the left is concerned. However, we in the West are not obliged to suffer the barbaric customs of those who want to kill us. Stonings, beheadings,
    child marriages, honor killings, taqquiya, jizya, and dhimmitude. I, for one, want none of it. Happy birthday, Sir Winston.

    • SpiritOf1683

      Stonings, beheadings, child marriages, honor killings, taqquiya, jizya, and dhimmitude. I, for one, want none of it. Happy birthday, Sir Winston.

      And that sums up what Tarleton wants to see happening here in the West.

      • tarleton

        you sound like another hysterical woman or a mixed up teenager ….growing up isn't easy , but you've got to at least try

        • SpiritOf1683

          And becoming like you turns growing up into a sin. Back to Pakistan you go, scrounger.

  • http://oldschooltwentysix.blogspot.com/ oldschooltwentysix

    Excellent article that clearly sets forth the argument that many Leftists are unable to see, even when other Leftists try to tell them.

  • Reason_For_Life

    "But all these Western-imported ideologies and explanations do not find traction with most Muslims, who see their problems as resulting from a crisis in Islam that has allowed peoples who once trembled at Allah’s armies to dominate the world."

    That nails it better than any thing else that I've read on Frontpagemag.

    Democracy is an unmitigated evil when government is not limited in its power by individual rights.

    Excellent column.

  • Lightning Jack

    I find it rather hypocritical on Islam's part for its practitioners to demand exclusivity for their cultural and religious practices in any host nation which they occupy even a minority status, but then persecute, murder or discriminate against any non-Muslims living in one of their pro majority states.

    The fact of the matter is that a mutual or peaceful coexistence is not possible with fundamentalist Islam.

  • tanstaafl

    Islam: threat or menace?