The Point of the Palestinian Statehood Bid

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In his Huffington Post article, “Support Peace: Oppose Palestinian UN Gambit,” David Harris, executive director of the American Jewish Committee, opens with the following: “Once again, the Palestinians, with the help of their international enablers, are about to shoot themselves in the foot—or worse.”

In describing the Palestinian Authority’s upcoming September gambit at the United Nations, Mr. Harris overstates his point: he could easily have left out the words “or worse.”

In fact, according to a recent Haaretz report, entitled “IDF Training Israeli Settlers Ahead Of ‘Mass Disorder’ Expected In September,” the Israeli army is conducting “detailed work” to determine a “red line” for each settlement in the West Bank, which, if crossed by Palestinians, “will allow…soldiers…to open fire at the legs of the demonstrators[.]”

Not quite the “foot,” but nonetheless, the same vicinity.

Indeed the Palestinians are setting the stage for yet another conflict with Israel, which, ironically, is the exact opposite outcome of their purported UN goal.

Or is it?

The true motivation behind the Palestinians’ UN move was overtly conveyed by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in an op-ed written for The New York Times: “Palestine’s admission to the United Nations would pave the way for the internationalization of the conflict as a legal matter, not only a political one.” In other words, not an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but rather the perpetuation of it.

And what better way to achieve this than to execute a “Million Man March” on Israel’s borders, prompting Israeli retaliation, which, in turn, will enable the Palestinians to further delegitimize the Jewish state by “pursu[ing] claims against Israel at the United Nations, human rights treaty bodies and the International Court of Justice,” in Abbas’ words.

Moreover, the IDF “is also planning to provide settlers with tear gas and stun grenades as part of the defense operation,” according to Haaretz.

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  • g_jochnowitz

    In 1975, the General Assembly passed Resolution 3379–Zionism is Racism. Anti-Zionism is the most powerful political force on earth.
    Andrei S. Markovits, writing in the Winter 2005 issue of Dissent, says, "A new European (and American) commonality for all lefts — a new litmus test of progressive politics — seems to have developed: anti-Americanism and anti-Zionism (though not anti-Semitism, or at least not yet)."
    Perhaps in 2005 it was correct to say "not yet." Things have gotten worse.

  • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

    Hmmmm, so the motivation for their bid for statehood is not statehood? They are just doing it to force Israelis to shoot them, so they can cry out in pain and play the world’s sympathy and this will eradicate Israel?

    Or maybe you are a big stinking liar?

    One of those, to be sure.

    • MixMChess

      The Palestinian strategy is actually quite clear. Palestinians actually negotiating and agreeing to a peace accord requires some hard concessions, such as accepting Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. With a peace agreement the conflict could be resolved and there would be no further Palestinian demands on Israel.

      Palestinians simply cannot accept this. Instead they are seeking to bypass peace negotiations and make a unilateral declaration of independence.

      Of course, the UDI would constitute a "violation of every agreement signed between the Israeli’s and Palestinians, would contravene the UN’s own Security Council Resolutions (242, 338 and 1850: all stipulating a mutually negotiated solution while rejecting unilateralism) and would destroy the frameworks for Middle East peace which have been created over the past few decades." The UDI simply rewards the Palestinians for their intransigence in refusing to make any concessions.

  • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

    Sing it to someone who hasn't been alive for the past four decades. Israel decided it wanted to expand settlements or make sure it had a skirmish going or make sure it was having a right wing election or assassinating it's own leaders any time Oslo was making headway. I don't really even care about Palestinians all that much. But, man, I've seen it going on. You're not fooling me dude. Israel has a reputation now as a bunch of peace speaking, warmongering liars who claim it hurts them to punch other people in the face, and that it steals from them to pillage others. Quote this and quote that. Lame apologetics is all it is. A Campus Watch parlor game. Playing advertiser / lawyer for the Israeli PR department. Hasbara is NOT WORKING. Look at this Amcha protectionist racket fake huddling for safety. Such theater! Such drama! Ask an average person on the street what he thinks of Israel. He'll probably spit on you.

    • jde

      maybe you should go visit Israel and interview the natives on the street …of course you will meet some of all viewpoints. But I encourage you to do this and while you are there meet Israeli arabs and Israeli christians, as well as the hated jews and zionists of all persuasions.
      Then before spouting your own opinions like the uninformed masses influenced by bits and pieces of hearsay, please also go to egypt, syria, iraq and lebanon, and then form your opinion after meeting the local arabs, christians and jews…OH there are no jews there anymore? what happened? ok then interview the christians. what? you are having a hard time finding them too?…and if you do find one they are unwilling to speak for fear of retaliation? They are not free to speak in their own countries?!
      Ok well then maybe then you better go back to israel one more time just to get your eyes set right on which is the civilized western world of freedom and democracy.

      Then you can go back to speaking with an honest heart, based on facts that you have witnessed on the ground Flip. This is not a parlor game Flip…this is the real thing. People are dieing and more will die in the name of peace, peace, peace, but there will be no peace. Not until the world recognizes what peace is all about and that Israel is the one maligned will only be resolved with the coming of the messiah.
      There will be no divided jerusalem and there will be no palestine, levant, syria, jordan, egypt or iraq then or ever again. No hamas no abbass or pal authority.
      Only Israel. Count on it. It is not a threat. It is prophesy.

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        We're just not the same page. I am an American, an atheist influenced by the Enlightenment. You are a person who takes the Bible and Torah as history and who believes in violations of Thermodynamics and in End Causality. We cannot have a meeting of the minds there, because there are quite simply scientific factual obstacles in the way. Prophecy. Ptui!

        • Mrs

          Flipside, I too am an American. However, I'm also a Christian and I would suggest you take heed to what jde said. Better yet, check out raptureready.com to get some Biblical facts about what is going to take place. The stage is currently being set!

    • MixMChess

      "Sing it to someone who hasn't been alive for the past four decades."

      Don't like getting schooled by someone half your age?

      "Israel decided it wanted to expand settlements or make sure it had a skirmish going or make sure it was having a right wing election or assassinating it's own leaders any time Oslo was making headway."

      Israel has DECREASED the settlements. It evacuated the Sinai in 1979, Gaza and parts of the W. Bank in 2005 and has already laid out plans to further abandon parts of the W. Bank as part of a final NEGOTIATED settlement. Israel shrinks its borders but that's never enough for propagandists like you.

      The Israeli government has never assassinated its own leaders. Not that it would matter who was in charge (right or left), Oslo was doomed to fail because Arafat always viewed it as just another extension of his expansionist war against Israel. Why else did he reject statehood in 2000?

      "I don't really even care about Palestinians all that much."

      Sorry no one is fooled, you may not "care" about Palestinians but you make it your hobby to defame Jews. Palestinians are just a convenient pawn in this part of your gameplan.

      "Hasbara is NOT WORKING."

      Shouting louder won't make your statements true.

      "Ask an average person on the street what he thinks of Israel. He'll probably spit on you."

      Really? A Gallup survey from February 2011 found that over 66% of Americans sympathize with Israel. In fact, since 2001 support for Israel has risen among Americans. Looks like you're full of it, huh? :-(

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        I am not getting schooled. Nor was I getting schooled after I got the crank call from Leavittown, PA after your big grandiose filibuster on here. It is not schooling to inline quote somebody and then make a fake rebuttal. If Mitchell G. Bard's "Myths & Facts A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict" can't make a good case for Israel, then you sure as hell can't.

        I am no more convinced that Israel reduced settlements (when it reduced some and increased others) than I believe the US and the USSR reduced arms during the START treaty, or that the US economy is doing better than it ever has if you take the long view from 1789. It's not defamation if it is true. There are precious few ways to genuinely defame Israel. Anyhow, you equivocate incessantly Jews and Israel. Are they the same? If so, any Jew in the United States is also Israel. That's a recipe for intellectual disaster.

        The stock market "rallied" 300 points from its recent fall from 12,000. Do I believe it is a rally? Hmmmm. No I do not. Do I believe the myopic and and hyperopic spreads on Israel's popularity? No. I think that for any given point in time it has been stagflation and devaluation over the past several decades. I think the 28 cent shekel tells all. Israel trades intellectually at about a quarter.

  • Just Jojo

    The only solution for a lasting peace is absolute democratic process (that we Americans cherish so passionately) for the entire territory in question, otherwise, the peace will not last. All people who lived there without regard to religion, race, etc. should vote on how they would like their one country to be run. I favor one state solution because two states would only attempt to “legalize” Zionist occupation that will be remembered in history until it is corrected by future large scale conflicts, so no lasting peace will result. The only issue with the fair democratic process is what to do with all manipulated Jewish people who the Zionist regime imported for decades to increase the Jewish population from around 100,000 to over 5 Million since the start of the occupation. This is obviously an attempt to unjustly manipulate any future democratic process by forcefully increasing the occupier’s population at the expense of others. Any compromise other than the absolute fair democratic process with no manipulated population will be temporary with terrible conflicts looming to correct it in the future.

    The truth is that the Zionist regime will not accept any democratic process even if the manipulated Jewish population is included because it cannot exist as a democratic country as Zionists will be outvoted by all others who live there (Zionists were in an infinite minority before the occupation). The Zionist regime can only temporarily exist through the force of its arms as a one people country where only select ones can vote and where different laws apply to different people.

    The world must stand up against the Zionist regime by cutting all diplomatic and economic relations with it. Many countries have already stopped all relations with the Zionist regime and others are in the process of doing the same. We Americans need to completely distance ourselves from this oppressive regime through urging our state representatives and senators to do what the rest of the world is doing

  • Dexter renz

    You can definitely copy, repost, or email mine to anyone including lobbying senators, state representatives and any other public officials who shape our country’s foreign policies.

    The main Zionist claim is that they have a supreme right to some of Palestinian territory because they lived there thousands of years ago. Let’s examine the core and real nature of this claim.

    Firstly, this claim is mistaken and selfish in its core concept because Zionists fail to recognize that history is a continuum and that there were other people living in majority in Palestine before the Jews and also after the Jews. Zionists simply cut history at a convenient point for them and claim ancestral ties to the land as of that convenient point.

    Secondly, whatever the claim, it is beyond absurd to try to shape modern world based on thousands of years old maps. Imagine if the rest of the world would be reshaped by who was on the land thousands of years ago. It would cause horrific wars, countless refugees, and unimaginable human suffering, exactly what is happening in Palestine.

    Thirdly and most disturbing, Zionist goal was to establish a Jewish state wherever possible. Palestine may have been a preference, but Palestine was not the only location that Zionists planned as their state in modern times. Another location was Argentina where Jews have been migrating for hundreds of years for the purpose of establishing a state. Also, locations in Europe were on the list and that’s why the Catholic Church was killing/expelling Jews since Roman times (read the history of the Holly Inquisition). Whatever the location, Zionist plan was to simply occupy the people living on the land even if that would mean imposing a regime worst than Nazi Germany’s from which they escaped. And Zionists would just use a different ideological coloring than the one used in Palestine in the attempt to rationalize the occupation.

    In conclusion, the main claim on which the Zionist regime is built in Palestine is erroneous, selfish, and a lie. I am categorically against generalizing, and recognize that many Jews are against the crimes the Zionist regime is committing and that many Jews are leading the global resistance to it. They should be proud

  • Stateman

    Imagine in the current time if France would want to create its own state in Michigan and separate it from the U.S. French are a minority in Michigan so democratic vote on the separation would not work because they would be outvoted by the rest of the Americans living in Michigan. So imagine if they had a historic opportunity when the U.S. is at its weakest and militarily occupy a part of Michigan and impose a regime where only French can vote and all the others who lived there cannot. Furthermore, the occupiers rename the occupied part of Michigan as the “French State” where not only that Americans are not welcome, but they are systematically expelled over time creating huge refugee camps in nearby states of Indiana and Ohio. Imagine then that at that point in history the artificial organization called the United Nations is full of French supporters and somehow that makes the occupation “legal” and Americans who fight for their homes in the occupied part of Michigan are labeled as terrorists. The occupation is a part of a careful log-term plan (i.e. Zionism) of acquiring land by French, so literally days after the occupation is implemented (what a coordinated plan!) the occupiers import millions of other French from all over the world to increase their population in Michigan from around 100,000 to over 5 Million in a short period. Then Americans resist and fight to regain the occupied part of Michigan, but Russia steps in, sends weapons, cash, and everything else the occupiers need to sustain the occupation.

    What do you think all of us Americans would feel? We would hate French first, and then all of their supporters (Russia in this analogy) that make the occupation of our land possible. Still questioning yourself why people in the Middle East and other parts of the world do not like us? Because Zionist controlled our government, not the people, supported the very exact scenario as described above against our will and with our tax money making us accomplices in this unspeakable crime. The scenario that would outrage all of us Americans and make us fight against it if it happened in Michigan or anywhere else in the U.S.

    This comment is not intended to make derogatory remarks about France and Russia. It is merely used as an example of how Americans would be outraged and fight back in the same situation as the forced establishment of the Zionist regime and its occupation of Palestine.

    Urge our state representatives and senators to immediately stop any remaining support for the Zionist regime. Much of the support already stopped because of the increasing pressure on this issue, but we Americans need to completely distance ourselves from this oppressive regime and start actively opposing it

  • Anjelica Stagnitta

    She has been shaking all these years the kids should been loosing weight what she trying 2 do change her image LOL.