Don’t Pepper Spray Them: Expel Them

David Horowitz was one of the founders of the New Left in the 1960s and an editor of its largest magazine, Ramparts. He is the author, with Peter Collier, of three best selling dynastic biographies: The Rockefellers: An American Dynasty (1976); The Kennedys: An American Dream (1984); and The Fords: An American Epic (1987). Looking back in anger at their days in the New Left, he and Collier wrote Destructive Generation (1989), a chronicle of their second thoughts about the 60s that has been compared to Whittaker Chambers’ Witness and other classic works documenting a break from totalitarianism. Horowitz examined this subject more closely in Radical Son (1996), a memoir tracing his odyssey from “red-diaper baby” to conservative activist that George Gilder described as “the first great autobiography of his generation.” His latest book is Take No Prisoners: The Battle Plan for Defeating the Left (Regnery Publishing).

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A bunch of students who think they’re revolutionaries formed a mob at UC Davis the other day, blocked a public walkway and refused to move when campus police requested them to do so. As participants in the Occupy Wall Streets on American neighborhoods and now campuses, these are people who support violence against a democratically elected government at home and terrorism abroad. They are friends and comrades of Jew-haters both domestic and foreign. You will notice the Keffiyehs in the video — but the record of the Occupiers is quite clear — on the matter of Jews, on the matter of violence and on the matter of hatred for their own country.

To be a “revolutionary” in a democratic country is to be a self-conceived and self-declared outlaw. That’s who these students are. Of course they may not realize who they are since the adults around them have conspired not to hold them accountable for their actions. But that’s who they are. I have long been of the opinion that the Sixties might have been avoided if administrators had responded to the illegal occupations of college campuses by expelling the culprits responsible. I see the same mistake being made now by the administrators at UC Davis who in the midst of what is — for them — a public relations nightmare, are groveling before these enemies of civility, decency, public order and the fundamental principles which sustain our Republic.

These demonstrators, these haters of our civic order, have forfeited the right to be subsidized by California taxpayers and to occupy privileged spots at our public universities. They need to be taught a lesson as much as our society needs to learn a lesson.Treating adults as children is bad policy; treating the enemies of American democracy as children and “idealists” can be  suicidal. If we don’t defend ourselves, there is no one else who will.

 

 

  • Gman213

    Will any rational adult affiliated with any of these campuses please stand up. You treat adults like children, you neuter your law enforcement officers, then stab them in the back. Your professors are leftist loons with 60's ideaologies.The inmates are running the asylum and America is disgusted with all of it!

    • Asher

      These students were rebellious and should be expelled. Breaking the law should be dealt with under all circumstances..I am making donations to support the police, their task to maintain order has been made 10 time harder with this Communist movement. The tax payers are not going to continue to put up with anarchy, turning their lives and childrens lives upside down.

      • Herman Caintonette

        So was Martin Luther King. I suppose that you supported Bull Connor and the fire hoses, too….

        • Blaze Pascal

          King did not preach the overthrow of the Constitution. He preached the uplifting of the constitution. These subversive want to overthrow the form of government that King died to uphold. King also went to jail for his beliefs, which is where these slobs need to be. Nice try anyway, Germ

          • Blaze Pascal

            P. S. Martin Luther King did not $h!t in the park. In fact he wore a suit and was known to take a regular bath.

          • Herman Caintonette

            You are obsessed with defecation … must be due to potty-training issues.

          • Blaze Pascal

            Give me your address Herm and I'll fill up a shoebox for you.

  • StephenD

    THIS is the kind of talk and action we need from officials across America on all fronts. From college campuses to the welfare office, from courthouses to grade schools. You need look no further than your local convenience store to see how far American society has fallen. Just stand there for 20 minutes and observe. You'll see young thugs, never showing the least bit of courtesy (holding the door for someone, saying thank you), you'll see folks on the dole buying beer and not bread. You'll see dress praising murderers (Che Geuvara) and more denigrating America.
    IT is time to start that pendulum swinging in the opposite direction. Because if we don't, eventually a Tyrant will only then we won't have any say over how.

    • Herman Caintonette

      And you have done this observation personally, watching from your position as a clerk?

      • Blaze Pascal

        How does your unique position as a rat in a hole give you such a broad perspective?

  • Eric G

    Failing to expel the "revolutionaries" sends a message to those students who follow the rules that rule-following is no better than rule-breaking.

    • Herman Caintonette

      Obviously, you didn't have the benefit of a liberal education. Read Thoreau's Resistance to Civil Government and get back to us.

      • Blaze Pascal

        Obviously you are an arrogant simp. Read Dick and Jane and write us a book report.

      • tagalog

        Thoreau's Resistance to Civil Government is about government, not about universities.

        Thoreau began Resistance to Civil Government with the famous quotation "That government is best which governs least." What's your position on that view?

        The work is more commonly known as Civil Disobedience. Civil disobedience, as Thoreau understood it, and after him Gandhi and Martin Luther King, is an approach to unjust laws and policies that calls for a violation of a bad law, followed by submission to arrest and prosecution and an insistence on the part of the defendant that, because the disobedience was voluntary, intentional, and made with contempt for the law, the punishment imposed should be the maximum possible (this view is intended to highlight the injustice of the bad law).

        • Herman Caintonette

          "One may well ask: "How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all."

          Now, what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust."

          M.L. King, @ http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_B

          • tagalog

            Ahh…that clarifies everything.

          • Blaze Pascal

            All The law s the ows are breaking are Just laws, for example, no $h!tting in the park. That one really lifts up human dignity.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Which is the lesser evil? Sure, there are a few problems, but on balance, the protest is necessary and productive.

          • Blaze Pascal

            Would you be so thoughtful about it if the Tea Party had "a few problems"? Or would you and the msm rake them over the coals for it? You people are very understanding and accepting when it's your side. And you have the nerve to call Horowtiz a hypocrite! You Left are such a bunch of two-faced b*St*rds.

      • UCSPanther

        Bad news for you on Canada's front: Occupy Toronto is getting cleaned out as well, and Occupy Victoria died with a whimper.

        Wanna play revolutionary? Expect to get hurt, and being maced is the least of any real rebels' worry…

        • Herman Caintonette

          "Live free or die!" You might not get it while under the effects of a Molson brain-freeze, however….

  • oldtimer

    agree, expel them. and make them repay their taxpayer provided student loans.

  • kafirman

    Horowitz is exactly right. Leave it to the left to create a public relations nightmare instead of treating adults as adults. But were the left to create adults as adults, it would impale itself.

  • Herman Caintonette

    Horrorwitz: "They are friends and comrades of Jew-haters both domestic and foreign. You will notice the Keffiyehs in the video — but the record of the Occupiers is quite clear — on the matter of Jews, on the matter of violence and on the matter of hatred for their own country."

    Wow! Horrorwitz has become totally unhinged! Expulsion from a public university, as a punishment for civil disobedience? But then again, Horrorwitz never believed in the First Amendment … as applied to others.

    And of course, he has to drag out his tired, old canard, screaming "anti-Semitism" at the top of his lungs whenever people disagree with him, and he cannot vanquish them with argument more feeble than his body. Real Jews–as opposed to the mentally-challenged paranoid nut-cases of Team Horrorwitz–are our biggest supporters!

    Thanks to your two unfunded wars, financially-disastrous tax breaks for the super-rich, trade poilcies designed to denude our industrial base, and Republican handouts to Big Pharma, the American economy and government is no longer capable of affording both guns and butter. The kids are saying that if there is no butter, there isn't any desperate need for guns.

    If you care that much about Israel, leave us … and pick up a gun. When we can't even afford to provide for our long-term unemployed, giving $1,000 a year to those lazy-arzse socialist parasiites in Israel is an obvious waste of money.

    • Blaze Pascal

      Talk about tired canards. Wow.

    • PAthena

      "Expulsion from a public university, as a punishment for civil disobedience?" asks Herman Caintonette (if that is his real name). Civil disobedience is violation of law and so, of course, should be punished. Thoreau, who invented the term, certainly thought that he deserved his punishment (one day in jail) for his act of civil disobedience.
      The Occupy protestors are not exercising the right of free speech, since that right does not include the right to say whatever you wherever you please – e.g., using megaphones to attack hospitals.
      The Occupy people are, however, attacking the right to vote for the candidates of one's choice, and the very notion of public order. They are selfish, greedy, would-be tyrants, who like tyrants everywhere claim to be speaking for "the people." They claim to represent 99% of Americans, with not the slightest evidence – they not being elected to any office.

  • tagalog

    Some folks in our society have become so deluded by law and logic that they will allow the society to collapse over the claim that conduct equals speech.

    Robert Jackson, the Chief War Crimes Prosecutor at Nuremburg and a U.S. Supreme Court justice, is famous for saying that the Constitution is not a suicide pact. But we have made the right to freedom of speech so blown-out-of-proportion important that we will sacrifice our civilization for some equation of conduct with speech.

    Colleges used to require certain appropriate conduct of their students, and expel them for violating the standards. No one thought it was dangerous to the republic for the colleges to do so. It's still no danger to the republic to discipline these people for law-breaking conduct such as interfering with law enforcement, a crime.

    • Herman Caintonette

      He also pointed out that the Nazis had a tu quoque defense. Nuremberg established that an unwarranted offensive war — the kind we waged on Iraq — is in itself a war crime.

      • tagalog

        What does the tu quoque defense have to do with a society some of whose citizens are willing to consign it to the ashes for the sake of equating interference with law enforcement with the right of free speech? Or are you just throwing some Latin out there?

        What does waging aggressive war (to use the Nuremburg lexicon) have to do with the Occupy Whatever people?

        • Herman Caintonette

          He did cite Justice Jackson. Not without his skeletons…

          OWS is not consigning our society to the ashes — just the fascist kleptocracy we now endure. Law enforcement must be restrained by the First Amendment, or it is of no value at all.

          • tagalog

            Since when is saying that the Nazis could say "you do it too" (the tu quoque defense) a skeleton? Didn't the Western nations, including the United States, refuse refugee Jews sanctuary in their countries? Didn't Stalin, without the excuse of war, starve millions of people to death in the Ukraine? How about the Katyn Forest massacre? Didn't the British prohibit Jews emigrating to Judea? Didn't the allies engage in area bombing? Isn't the atomic bombing of Japan questionable? When the Allied troops in Europe decided not to take SS troops prisoner, or the Americans in the Pacific didn't take Japanese prisoners when they surrendered, wasn't that a "you too" kind of thing, at least on the face of it?

            I didn't say OWS consigns our civilization to the ashes over the issue of conduct as free speech, although they're doing that too; I was talking about our intellectuals and university leaders.

            How is law enforcement to be restrained by the First Amendment? The First Amendment secures to the people certain rights including the right to speak freely, but there's nothing about speaking freely that was threatened by police action in the OWS brouhaha over the past few weeks. There was no speech being restrained, only camping out in the parks and violating park hours as well as reasonable restrictions on assembling in public places. Somehow that seems to continue to be ignored.

          • Herman Caintonette

            The hell it wasn't! Speech and conduct cannot always be divorced that easily.

          • tagalog

            Sure they can. I can call you a dirty name and slug you, and the two things, although connected, are quite distinct. Calling you a name is speech; slugging you is an act. In this instance, interestingly, both the name-calling and the slugging might well be crimes, one Harassment and the other Assault, for which all societies in our nation provide punishment.

            No doubt you're going to bring up flag-burning. It should be pretty obvious that burning the flag is an expression -arguably- in a way that camping out in a park is not. Burning a flag outside of flag protocol constitutes a claim that says something like, "I hate the nation that this flag represents!" There is, however, no similar expression connected with camping out in a park. Camping out in a park can mean many things, or mean nothing other than that one has no other place to go.

            Similarly, one can say "I protest the greedy corporations!" and camp out overnight in a park that has use and hour regulations. It's perfectly OK for me to say words in protest of those greedy corps but not OK for me to pitch my tent in the park and reside in it overnight, or remain in the park after it's time for the park to close. The former protestations are speech; the latter camping out and loitering in the park are acts in violation of reasonable restrictions on the use of land set aside for recreation. Surely you can see the readily-distinguishable issues, but perhaps not.

            I know, I know: don't call you "Shirley."

    • Blaze Pascal

      You are right Tagalog, they are "deluded by law and language." In other words, a little learning is a dangerous thing. They have been taught some elementary reasoning and one side of the argument, along with selective and false information. As a result they fancy themselves masters of Reason and champions of Right, when in fact they are simply miseducated pinheads. They are fired up with the delusion of reasoning. They have been taught just enough to become absolutely wrong about everything, but maintain an appearance of reason.

  • tagfu222

    When protesters block an intersection in a city they create a problem because they trap traffic and create gridlock. These protesters were blocking a path, and from the picture they trapped no one because you could walk around them. Tall people could step over them. People just ignoring them would have made them look ridiculous.

  • BS77

    OHHHH they were pepper sprayed after refusing to quit blocking public access. OOOHHHHH BOOOOO HOOOOO. Seeing that college CEO crying and apologizing to the tender little college mobsters made me laugh…how PC pathetic. Instead of apologizing, she should have told the mob to "get off your asses, quit blocking the street, or be expelled." She should have thanked the police for their efforts to uphold law and order. Everything is now upside down and backwards.

    • Herman Caintonette

      It is an aggravated criminal assault. The cops should be thrown in jail, where they belong.

    • Paula

      I agree. These students need to be expelled and made to repay their loans and not be allowed back in a University in California. They need PUBLIC chastisement by University officials who have a backbone. These demonstrators are disgusting to me. They must be stopped on every university campus. College is a place for learning and the other students are being disrupted. I think the other students ought to throw the demonstrators out!

  • Herman Caintonette

    Horrorwitz: "They are friends and comrades of Jew-haters both domestic and foreign. You will notice the Keffiyehs in the video but the record of the Occupiers is quite clear on the matter of Jews, on the matter of violence and on the matter of hatred for their own country."

    Horrorwitz has totally lost it. Sane Jews are some of our strongest allies.

    • Blaze Pascal

      You're quite the bigot aren't you Herman. Jews who disagree with you are insane? That's a very Left way of looking at things. No wonder you hate all black people inlrss they are democraps.

  • NotaBene

    Good old DH, sounding more and more openly fascist each day.

    • Hannibarca

      DH can't be a Fascist because he is not a socialist totalitarian, robotic "storm trooper" but I'll bet you are.

      • Herman Caintonette

        Socialists are not fascists. http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars….

      • Herman Caintonette

        Looks like my response was excised again. :"Free speech for me but not for thee," eh, David? Hypocrite!

        • Blaze Pascal

          David is just breaking an unjust law Germ.

    • PhillipGaley

      There plenty of places on public streets where physical protest can be make. I would marvel to know how in the name of common sense or by what appearance of logic is advocacy for centers of learning to be kept free and open for pursuit of knowledge, rightly to be styled "fascist", . . . but eventually, in order to restore and maintain order, their deeds will bring forth another Napoleon type, . . . woe betide that day, . . . I might say they'll rue that day, except that, they do not now have the sense, nor then shall they, and probably, many of them will no longer be with us, . . .

      • tagalog

        You might find it amusing to know that David Mamet, in his recent book, The Secret Knowledge, quoted a former Columbia student who said in recollection of the 1968 Columbia SDS strike, "I remember, as a student at Columbia, Mark Rudd and his ilk would storm the Dean's office and burn our transcripts. Of course he never bothered to ask whether we wanted them burned or not."

    • UCSPanther

      You wouldn't know a real fascist if one fell on you out of a tree…

  • notme

    A hard, immutable truth I have observed is that left-wing entities generally tend to be obnoxious, in-your-face, have the precept of "not only must you accept what I believe but also believe what I believe", loud, persistent, and confrontational. Right-wing or conservative entities are more generally orderly, try to work within the system, more respectful, and are not nearly as prone to large, consistent public displays of expression. Unfortunately, a byproduct of this dichotomy, I think, is that simple-minded people on the side-lines and those just becoming aware of their political world (e.g. students), buy the arguments of those that scream the loudest. This is probably one reason why academic institutions generally lean heavily to the left (also because of the left-leaning teaching faculty that typically occupies those institutions).

    • Blaze Pascal

      notme that is by far the best explanation of it Ive read in a long time. Maybe us conservatives ought to show at some of THEIR events and bust up their sanctimonious attitudes. How about a pie in one of THEIR righteous faces for a change. Maybe its time for US to moon the speaker. No doubt Germ Kane will be there to make excuses for us.

  • Boston

    They weren't blocking anything. It was time for prayer and they all forgot their rugs.

    • alexander

      The rags were/are on their backs; those poor imbeciles.
      Liberalism is a mental disorder

  • BS77

    OWS….Only Wankers Stupid!!!!

  • BS77

    I like my pepper spray on a taco or a burrito….it's great, and good for the digestion. Try the pepper spray salsa with jalapeno, lime, tomato, onion, cilantro and garlic. MMMM MMMM.

  • Gilbreath

    In this post 911 world reality has been upended. Those who claim to be patriotic are more apt to be idiotic . Those claiming to love freedom the most are those who would deny freedom of speech and public discourse. Students who pay thousands to attend universities to learn the dynamics of social interaction are taught the lessons of brutality. The commentators on the subject here-in are largely antiliberal sociopaths who should go home and wash the filth out of their mouths and minds and then return and politiely dissect and digest the subject matter. In a police state the first casualties are respect and regard for our fellows. After that ,the elimination of ideals is quite simply done.

    • thomas

      You're so indoctrinated you're BEYOND stupid.

      You can't even be correct on accident.

  • InFear0fBeingLabeled

    I darn to say, I do not know for what reasons these students chose to block a public walkway on this pretty campus, but from what is pictured here, the group act appears to be non-violent . At some point, in theory, disobedience of rules or laws exacts some form of punishment. If these people, as pictured, sitting on the ground, had proclaimed a notion of revolution along with some stated a manifesto, and their reason for civil non-violent disobedience was to demonstrate their explicit support for radical violent political movements or group worldwide, as well as declared a Jew hating mantra, I'd understand better Mr. Horowitz's blog and his associated thoughts. My worry is how do we get the "whole story" all exposed to be what it really was. The students might have been placed on scholastic probation and/or mandated to dormitory cleaning workgroups,,, perhaps. For the campus police's use of pepper-spray, not sure if it was the protocol is or was, but it seem relatively less-violent than engaging in public billy – clubbing. Actually, if I had been a student there trying to walk to a class, I think I'd have just walked around the blockage. If not rushed I might have asked for what reason the blockage was made, etc. — just kinda human-type things.. Now more students or "potential dissidents" will know better, ahead of time, the cost of the fiddler. Can the public buy pepper spray to use in defense of a pepper spray attack upon themselves ?
    .. to choose to use, or not.

    • InFearOfBeingLabeled

      still can't spell either. Sorry !

  • T_Trent

    Luckily, there were adults — students acting like adults — one College Republican caught the entire incident on tape, and it is very different from what is being shown in the news, as was the confrontation in Berkeley, in which the media failed to report on police being physically attacked before using force to disperse their attackers.
    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/new-video-proof-of-

  • https://www.facebook.com/raymond.torres.775 Raymond Torres

    a great article

  • StephenD

    Wait…what?

  • UCSPanther

    Not if their idea is squatting in parks, making huge messes and creating serious sanitation/public health issues that we pay with our tax dollars to clean up.

  • tagalog

    I'm particularly concerned about those younger youth.

  • JKS

    We don't live in a democratic country – we live in a Representative Republic. Our founding fathers warned us of true democracy and we are seeing the fruits of moving towards a democracy today.

  • Blaze Pascal

    You are wrong Aspirateur. Youth and the young people need to shut up and get their homework done. Sadly, their professors are all moral perverts who make use of these kids to serve their cause, instead of finding ways to benefit the students in some way. They are utterly vile users.

  • Herman Caintonette

    OWS has achieved its primary goal: the birth of a movement.

  • Herman Caintonette

    Actually, we live in a plutonomy. http://www.box.com/shared/9if6v2hr9h That is why OWS is protesting, and rightfully so.

  • Blaze Pascal

    I thought you believed in abortion.