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		<title>By: Raymond Torres</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond Torres]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a great article ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a great article </p>
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		<title>By: T_Trent</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luckily, there were adults -- students acting like adults -- one College Republican caught the entire incident on tape, and it is very different from what is being shown in the news, as was the confrontation in Berkeley, in which the media failed to report on police being physically attacked before using force to disperse their attackers. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aim.org/aim-column/new-video-proof-of-media-lies-about-uc-davis-protests/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aim.org/aim-column/new-video-proof-of-...&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily, there were adults &#8212; students acting like adults &#8212; one College Republican caught the entire incident on tape, and it is very different from what is being shown in the news, as was the confrontation in Berkeley, in which the media failed to report on police being physically attacked before using force to disperse their attackers.<br />
  <a href="http://www.aim.org/aim-column/new-video-proof-of-media-lies-about-uc-davis-protests/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.aim.org/aim-column/new-video-proof-of-" rel="nofollow">http://www.aim.org/aim-column/new-video-proof-of-</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure they can. I can call you a dirty name and slug you, and the two things, although connected, are quite distinct. Calling you a name is speech; slugging you is an act. In this instance, interestingly, both the name-calling and the slugging might well be crimes, one Harassment and the other Assault, for which all societies in our nation provide punishment.  
 
No doubt you&#039;re going to bring up flag-burning. It should be pretty obvious that burning the flag is an expression -arguably-  in a way that camping out in a park is not. Burning a flag outside of flag protocol constitutes a claim that says something like, &quot;I hate the nation that this flag represents!&quot; There is, however, no similar expression connected with camping out in a park. Camping out in a park can mean many things, or mean nothing other than that one has no other place to go.  
 
Similarly, one can say &quot;I protest the greedy corporations!&quot; and camp out overnight in a park that has use and hour regulations. It&#039;s perfectly OK for me to say words in protest of those greedy corps but not OK for me to pitch my tent in the park and reside in it overnight, or remain in the park after it&#039;s time for the park to close. The former protestations are speech; the latter camping out and loitering in the park are acts in violation of reasonable restrictions on the use of land set aside for recreation. Surely you can see the readily-distinguishable issues, but perhaps not.  
 
I know, I know: don&#039;t call you &quot;Shirley.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure they can. I can call you a dirty name and slug you, and the two things, although connected, are quite distinct. Calling you a name is speech; slugging you is an act. In this instance, interestingly, both the name-calling and the slugging might well be crimes, one Harassment and the other Assault, for which all societies in our nation provide punishment.  </p>
<p>No doubt you&#039;re going to bring up flag-burning. It should be pretty obvious that burning the flag is an expression -arguably-  in a way that camping out in a park is not. Burning a flag outside of flag protocol constitutes a claim that says something like, &quot;I hate the nation that this flag represents!&quot; There is, however, no similar expression connected with camping out in a park. Camping out in a park can mean many things, or mean nothing other than that one has no other place to go.  </p>
<p>Similarly, one can say &quot;I protest the greedy corporations!&quot; and camp out overnight in a park that has use and hour regulations. It&#039;s perfectly OK for me to say words in protest of those greedy corps but not OK for me to pitch my tent in the park and reside in it overnight, or remain in the park after it&#039;s time for the park to close. The former protestations are speech; the latter camping out and loitering in the park are acts in violation of reasonable restrictions on the use of land set aside for recreation. Surely you can see the readily-distinguishable issues, but perhaps not.  </p>
<p>I know, I know: don&#039;t call you &quot;Shirley.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re so indoctrinated you&#039;re BEYOND stupid. 
 
You can&#039;t even be correct on accident. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re so indoctrinated you&#039;re BEYOND stupid. </p>
<p>You can&#039;t even be correct on accident. </p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2011/david-horowitz/dont-pepper-spray-them-expel-them-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1626092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 04:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree.  These students need to be expelled and made to repay their loans and not be allowed back in a University in California.  They need PUBLIC chastisement by University officials who have a backbone.  These demonstrators are disgusting to me.  They must be stopped on every university campus.  College is a place for learning and the other students are being disrupted.  I think the other students ought to throw the demonstrators out! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  These students need to be expelled and made to repay their loans and not be allowed back in a University in California.  They need PUBLIC chastisement by University officials who have a backbone.  These demonstrators are disgusting to me.  They must be stopped on every university campus.  College is a place for learning and the other students are being disrupted.  I think the other students ought to throw the demonstrators out! </p>
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		<title>By: PAthena</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PAthena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Expulsion from a public university, as a punishment for civil disobedience?&quot; asks Herman Caintonette (if that is his real name).  Civil disobedience is violation of law and so, of course, should be punished.  Thoreau, who invented the term, certainly thought that he deserved his punishment (one day in jail) for his act of civil disobedience. 
The Occupy protestors are not exercising the right of free speech, since that right does not include the right to say whatever you wherever you please - e.g., using megaphones to attack hospitals. 
The Occupy people are, however, attacking the right to vote for the candidates of one&#039;s choice, and the very notion of public order.  They are selfish, greedy, would-be tyrants, who like tyrants everywhere claim to be speaking for &quot;the people.&quot;  They claim to represent 99% of Americans, with not the slightest evidence - they not being elected to any office. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Expulsion from a public university, as a punishment for civil disobedience?&quot; asks Herman Caintonette (if that is his real name).  Civil disobedience is violation of law and so, of course, should be punished.  Thoreau, who invented the term, certainly thought that he deserved his punishment (one day in jail) for his act of civil disobedience.<br />
The Occupy protestors are not exercising the right of free speech, since that right does not include the right to say whatever you wherever you please &#8211; e.g., using megaphones to attack hospitals.<br />
The Occupy people are, however, attacking the right to vote for the candidates of one&#039;s choice, and the very notion of public order.  They are selfish, greedy, would-be tyrants, who like tyrants everywhere claim to be speaking for &quot;the people.&quot;  They claim to represent 99% of Americans, with not the slightest evidence &#8211; they not being elected to any office. </p>
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		<title>By: InFearOfBeingLabeled</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InFearOfBeingLabeled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[still can&#039;t spell either.  Sorry ! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still can&#039;t spell either.  Sorry ! </p>
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		<title>By: InFear0fBeingLabeled</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InFear0fBeingLabeled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I darn to say, I do not know for what reasons these students chose to block a public walkway on this pretty campus, but from what is pictured here, the group act appears to be non-violent . At some point, in theory, disobedience of rules or laws exacts some form of punishment.  If these people, as pictured, sitting on the ground, had proclaimed a notion of revolution along with some stated a manifesto,  and their reason for civil non-violent disobedience was to demonstrate their explicit support for radical violent political movements or group worldwide, as well as declared a Jew hating mantra, I&#039;d understand better Mr. Horowitz&#039;s blog and his associated thoughts.  My worry is how do we get the &quot;whole story&quot; all exposed to be what it really was.  The students might have been placed on scholastic probation and/or mandated to dormitory cleaning workgroups,,,  perhaps.  For the campus police&#039;s use of pepper-spray, not sure if it was the protocol is or was, but it seem relatively less-violent than engaging in public  billy - clubbing. Actually, if I had been a student there trying to walk to a class, I think I&#039;d have just walked around the blockage. If not rushed I might have asked for what reason the blockage was made, etc. -- just kinda human-type things..  Now more students or &quot;potential dissidents&quot; will know better, ahead of time, the cost of the fiddler.  Can the public buy pepper spray to use in defense of a pepper spray attack upon themselves ? 
.. to choose to use, or not. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I darn to say, I do not know for what reasons these students chose to block a public walkway on this pretty campus, but from what is pictured here, the group act appears to be non-violent . At some point, in theory, disobedience of rules or laws exacts some form of punishment.  If these people, as pictured, sitting on the ground, had proclaimed a notion of revolution along with some stated a manifesto,  and their reason for civil non-violent disobedience was to demonstrate their explicit support for radical violent political movements or group worldwide, as well as declared a Jew hating mantra, I&#039;d understand better Mr. Horowitz&#039;s blog and his associated thoughts.  My worry is how do we get the &quot;whole story&quot; all exposed to be what it really was.  The students might have been placed on scholastic probation and/or mandated to dormitory cleaning workgroups,,,  perhaps.  For the campus police&#039;s use of pepper-spray, not sure if it was the protocol is or was, but it seem relatively less-violent than engaging in public  billy &#8211; clubbing. Actually, if I had been a student there trying to walk to a class, I think I&#039;d have just walked around the blockage. If not rushed I might have asked for what reason the blockage was made, etc. &#8212; just kinda human-type things..  Now more students or &quot;potential dissidents&quot; will know better, ahead of time, the cost of the fiddler.  Can the public buy pepper spray to use in defense of a pepper spray attack upon themselves ?<br />
.. to choose to use, or not. </p>
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		<title>By: Gilbreath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gilbreath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this post 911 world reality has been upended.   Those who claim to be patriotic are more apt to be idiotic .   Those claiming to love freedom the most are those who would deny freedom of speech and public discourse.    Students who pay thousands to attend universities to learn the dynamics of social interaction are taught the lessons of brutality.     The commentators on the  subject here-in are largely antiliberal sociopaths who should go home and wash the filth out of their mouths and minds and then return and politiely dissect and digest the subject matter.    In a police state the first casualties are respect and regard for our fellows.     After that ,the elimination of ideals is quite simply done. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this post 911 world reality has been upended.   Those who claim to be patriotic are more apt to be idiotic .   Those claiming to love freedom the most are those who would deny freedom of speech and public discourse.    Students who pay thousands to attend universities to learn the dynamics of social interaction are taught the lessons of brutality.     The commentators on the  subject here-in are largely antiliberal sociopaths who should go home and wash the filth out of their mouths and minds and then return and politiely dissect and digest the subject matter.    In a police state the first casualties are respect and regard for our fellows.     After that ,the elimination of ideals is quite simply done. </p>
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		<title>By: alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rags were/are on their backs; those poor imbeciles. 
Liberalism is a mental disorder ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rags were/are on their backs; those poor imbeciles.<br />
Liberalism is a mental disorder </p>
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		<title>By: BS77</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BS77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like my pepper spray on a taco or a burrito....it&#039;s great, and good for the digestion.  Try the pepper spray  salsa with jalapeno, lime, tomato, onion, cilantro and garlic. MMMM MMMM. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like my pepper spray on a taco or a burrito&#8230;.it&#039;s great, and good for the digestion.  Try the pepper spray  salsa with jalapeno, lime, tomato, onion, cilantro and garlic. MMMM MMMM. </p>
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		<title>By: BS77</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BS77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OWS....Only Wankers Stupid!!!! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OWS&#8230;.Only Wankers Stupid!!!! </p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[notme that is by far the best explanation of it Ive read in a long time.  Maybe us conservatives ought to show at some of THEIR events and bust up their sanctimonious attitudes.  How about a pie in one of THEIR righteous faces for a change.  Maybe its time for US to moon the speaker.  No doubt Germ Kane will be there to make excuses for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>notme that is by far the best explanation of it Ive read in a long time.  Maybe us conservatives ought to show at some of THEIR events and bust up their sanctimonious attitudes.  How about a pie in one of THEIR righteous faces for a change.  Maybe its time for US to moon the speaker.  No doubt Germ Kane will be there to make excuses for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you be so thoughtful about it if the Tea Party had &quot;a few problems&quot;?  Or would you and the msm rake them over the coals for it?  You people are very understanding and accepting when it&#039;s your side.  And you have the nerve to call Horowtiz a hypocrite!  You Left are such a bunch of two-faced b*St*rds. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you be so thoughtful about it if the Tea Party had &quot;a few problems&quot;?  Or would you and the msm rake them over the coals for it?  You people are very understanding and accepting when it&#039;s your side.  And you have the nerve to call Horowtiz a hypocrite!  You Left are such a bunch of two-faced b*St*rds. </p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give me your address Herm and I&#039;ll fill up a shoebox for you. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me your address Herm and I&#039;ll fill up a shoebox for you. </p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Germ, I don&#039;t hunt down obscure links from people I don&#039;t trust.  I do my own research.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Germ, I don&#039;t hunt down obscure links from people I don&#039;t trust.  I do my own research.   </p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David is just breaking an unjust law Germ. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David is just breaking an unjust law Germ. </p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re quite the bigot aren&#039;t you Herman.  Jews who disagree with you are insane?  That&#039;s a very Left way of looking at things.  No wonder you hate all black people inlrss they are democraps. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re quite the bigot aren&#039;t you Herman.  Jews who disagree with you are insane?  That&#039;s a very Left way of looking at things.  No wonder you hate all black people inlrss they are democraps. </p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are wrong Aspirateur.  Youth and the young people need to shut up and get their homework done.  Sadly, their professors are all moral perverts who make use of these kids to serve their cause, instead of finding ways to benefit the students in some way.  They are utterly vile users. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are wrong Aspirateur.  Youth and the young people need to shut up and get their homework done.  Sadly, their professors are all moral perverts who make use of these kids to serve their cause, instead of finding ways to benefit the students in some way.  They are utterly vile users. </p>
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		<title>By: Blaze Pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2011/david-horowitz/dont-pepper-spray-them-expel-them-1/comment-page-/#comment-1588304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaze Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought you believed in abortion. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you believed in abortion. </p>
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