Gingrich Gets It Right


 

In an interview yesterday, Newt Gingrich put some reality into the surreal discussion of the Middle East conflict and (as he put it) the delusional nature of the current “peace process.” The Palestinians are indeed an “invented people” — invented by the Nasser dictatorship and KGB by the way — and the Hitlerian lie that Israel occupies one square inch of “Arab” let alone “Palestinian” land needs to be buried for any clarity on what the conflict is about, let alone progress towards peace. Of course there is no peace in the Middle East and can be no peace so long as the Muslim Arabs want to kill the Jews and destroy the Jewish state. That is the explicit goal of the enemies of Israel in the terrorist entities of Gaza and the West Bank, and also of Israel’s principal enemy the Islamic Republic of Iran. Newt Gingrich’s gutsy statements — if will hold to them — could change the nature of the debate not only about how to deal with the Islamic terrorists of the Middle East but with the Islamic jihad itself. For the campaign to destroy Israel is at bottom a campaign to restore the Muslim (not Arab) ummah — as it was under the Turkish empire and the caliphate.

According to CNN, a Palestinian spokesman called Gingrich’s observation that the Palestinians are “an invented people” quote “the most racist I’ve ever seen.” This just shows what brazen liars Palestinian spokesmen are. Everything that Gingrich said was obvious fact. For nearly 2,000 years “Palestine” referred to region not a people — just as “New England” refers to a region not a people. In 1948 the Arabs of the Palestine region were not talking about a Palestinian state and were not referring to themselves as Palestinians. That came in 1964 with the creation of the PLO, engineered by the KGB and the Jew-hating dictator of Egypt, Gamel Abdel Nasser. Even then the PLO charter (which is still available on the web) did not call for the liberation of the West Bank or Gaza (annexed by Jordan and Egypt respectively) but for the destruction of the Jewish state. Jew hatred is what has driven the conflict in the Middle East which is more precisely described as a genocidal war against the Jews.

  • HalleysFifth

    I'm no particular fan of Newt, but it's good to hear him state the issue clearly.

    Now get ready for comments from the Jew-hating morons.

  • Mombearof2

    I'm not a fan of Newt's but this was an accurate statement. I am not Jewish but I could never understand how anyone with an IQ over 2 would ever side with anyone who was against Israel or the Jewish people in any way, shape, or form let alone anyone with twisted, malicious rhetoric and violence.

  • theleastthreat

    Finally, somebody said what reality is.

  • rulierose

    I think Newt's generally a self-important little man. but boy did he tell the truth on this one! people will deliberately misinterpret this, of course, and accuse him of saying the refugees don't exist. but he's right–the so-called Arab Palestinians were not a people until sometime in the 20th century. Newt said the 1970s. I would have said 1960s. at any rate, even tho it took Moses 40 years to find Israel, he still had a 3,000-year jump on the "Palestinians."

  • Anamah

    It was the slimy Arafat of the PLO, who in the 60's created the biggest political scam of modern times made the trade mark "Palestinian people". He exploited his hoax of victimization in order to receive donations from all over the world. Newt Gingrich has been courageous and absolutely right telling the historical fact he knows very well. Thank you Newt!!!

  • Steve

    The Newt is right about a lot of things…too bad he can't beat you know who in 2012.

    • WildJew

      How do you know he can't beat him? Do we need another John McCain look-alike to beat him?

      • Steve

        As bad as Mitt is to "the base" of the party of Stupid, please don't denigrate him by comparing him to the pathethic, broken, loser John McCain.

  • Lady_Dr

    HURRAH!!! A political who finally tells the truth about the Middle East. Now if only the Jews will listen. Newt is a lot of things, and some of those things I don't like – but he just sealed my vote. I believe he can beat you know who in 2012. As to the others:

    -Romney will just make nice and not say what needs to be said on the Middle East
    -Perry, Bachman, and Santorum would be good for Israel (and hence Americca) but just do not have the national or international experience and too many Jews are afraid (needlessly) of his Christianity
    -there is someone else running but it isn't Cain (maybe he will be VP), and the guy doesn't matter anyway – oh, yes there are two, the milquetoast Mr. Huntsman and the loon from Texas

  • Sanity

    Are you all blind? Not arguing with Jewish hatred by Arabs, although that definitely swings both ways. But isn't Israel also an invented state? If you looked at this from an Arab perspective Israel only came into being after WW2 with U.S. financial and military backing. Their only claim to that land is through religious text. The Jews and Arabs have always existed in that part of the world. They both need to learn to live together , they both are responsible for atrocities and they both need to get over it and find a way to live in peace. This is an ancient and tribal grudge that goes back thousands of years. Longer than many nations or states existed. All nations and states are invented!

    • BIg Irish

      israel an "invented state?"….what friggin planet are you on?…….read some history idiot – in fact after your rediculous comment dont bother – you keep your head in the sand where it belongs…..sanity?…NOT!

    • fiddler

      Perhaps you ought to ask Yahweh that one. HE said that was their land. In this case "religious text" trumps modern history. People have migrated all over the world.. It is thought that native Americans may not have been all that "native" as they may have migrated here from Asia across a land strip across the Bering strait. The Bible prophesies that Israel would be surrounded by her enemies. Really, stop the moral equivalence. When you look at a map and see that Israel occupies a small strip with Arabs all around, WHO is making the bigger deal out of this?

      • Beth

        fiddler…with your post, I just had to add these:

        Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

        Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

        Isa 41:26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous?

    • davarino

      Religion aside, the jews bought the land of Isreal from the nomads who lived there early 20th century. No one cared about that land anyway because it was desolate and fruitless. The Jews turned it into a habitable, fruitfull land and now all the sudden it belongs to the "palestinians". So get your "facts" straight before you talk what CNN tells you to say.

      • ziontruth

        "The Jews turned it into a habitable, fruitfull land…"

        Yep, while the Muslims… well… look what happened in August 2005 to the Gaza greenhouses they'd gotten as a gift.

      • Beth

        In relpy to and support of davarino's post:

        PEEL COMMISSION

        In El-Husseini’s interview on January 12, 1937 – led by the Peel Commission:

        (the 'Grand Mufti of Jerusalem' admits that the lands were sold – not stolen)

        "SIR L. HAMMOND: …..What I want to know is, did the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then hand it over to the Jews?

        MUFTI: In most cases the lands were acquired.

        SIR L. HAMMOND: I mean forcibly acquired-compulsory acquisition as land would be acquired for public purposes?

        MUFTI: No, it wasn’t.

        SIR L. HAMMOND: Not taken by compulsory acquisition?

        MUFTI: No."

        A very interesting legal conversation, indeed.

    • ziontruth

      "But isn't Israel also an invented state?"

      We're not discussing states, we're discussing nations. The question is whether this non-Jewish "Palestinian nation" is an invention or not. It most certainly is—invented in the 1960s with the malicious intent of hiding the truth of the Arab/Islamic imperialist ambition to rob the Jewish nation of their one and only state in the world.

      The Jewish nation, on the other hand, is no fiction. Whether you believe in the Torah or not, the Jewish nation is worlds apart from the Phakestinian fraud. Like, say, the Greek nation, the Jewish nation simply is, whereas the Arab settler-colonists in Palestine decided to call themselves a nation only when they realized the world somehow wasn't into their idea of robbing the Jews of their one state to give to the Arab nation, possessor of many states over a huge mass of land.

      "Their only claim to that land is through religious text."

      The Jews' culture is heavily tied to the Land of Israel a.k.a. Palestine—the language, the calendar, a lot more beside the religious text. But the Arabs' claim to the land is based on what exactly? Nothing real at all, that's why they resort to their fiction of a non-Jewish "Palestinian nation."

      "The Jews and Arabs have always existed in that part of the world."

      Yes, the Jews (and the Christians too) as sub-class dhimmi citizens, the mostly-Muslim Arabs as their apartheid masters. Real golden age of coexistence there. /sarc

      "They both need to learn to live together…"

      If you got your head out of the sand, you'd know the Muslims have yet to learn to live together with any other group, not just with the Jews.

      • Beth

        "Their only claim to that land is through religious text." (a quote of another given by ziontruth)

        To that other:

        NO where in the koran is the name Palestine ever mentioned. The name Israel is mentioned….many times. There's even a whole chapter devoted to "The Children of Israel"…but not once is the name Palestine ever mentioned.

    • jde

      No I/we are not "blind". I/many have read in the bible indeed that there were others there in the land between the jordan river and the sea before the coming of Moses and the "return" of the Israelites.
      But we should not be "deaf" either from the facts of reason and documentable current history. When we hear truth, we need to listen. While there is historical biblical facts that are referable, and more relevant historical post biblical political geographic facts that can be clearly evidenced this has not been an honest debat.
      If you insist on doing so, then you must acknowledge that Mr. Speaker Newt Gingrich is clear on the honest legitimate points of what prevents any real peace negotiations from taking place. The last 150 years of history in the region is the best one can realistically deal with. The winner of the historical recorded facts, and the "winner" in the geopolitical struggle of today is Israel… and surely it is as it was endorsed as the national homeland established for the Jewish state in 1948 …was endorsed by the UN and the previous balfour declarations following the end of ww1. The boundaries of the Israeli state were and are contested in continuous war, and the battle cry of the nation states surrounding the fledgling Israel/nation was and continues to be genocidal.
      This war has never ended…it has only been waged in in self defensive skirmishes/ and larger scale battles, which are repeatedly won by Israel as they have no choice if they are to survive .

      For the opposing sides to "compromise" either a defeat or victory must be acknowledged and accepted. This is not going to happen. And again this is foretold in the ancient biblical texts and actually is addressed in the Koran as well. So Israel is willing negotiate but cannot take the gloves off and the Muslims and specifically the local Arab world are not even willing to honestly do that and never will be as they must follow their sacred Koran a book requiring the faithful towards genocide and jihad.

      The "get to the table" insistence of our current politically dysfunctional foreign policy makers is foolish and impossible, and dangerous for both America and Israel. Newt will have to stand by these words and be counted as an honest historian to get my vote but the courage to speak these truths intelligently has placed him in the forefront of candidates to anyone with any conscious honesty about the pander we have engaged in for our desire to secure arab oil at the expense of Israeli security and sovereignty.

      • fiddler

        You won't get such honesty with the current White House occupant. Look for charges of racism and other invective toward Gingrich couched in carefully crafted language suitable to simple-minded consumption. Look for sound bites from the water-carrying "media". I expect a montage from Rush will follow, just as it did with the "gravitas" statements during Bush. As with the old bumper sticker: "QUESTION THE MEDIA".

      • Beth

        "The "get to the table" insistence of our current politically dysfunctional foreign policy makers is foolish and impossible"

        Very well said jde

        "The "get to the table" insistence of our current politically dysfunctional foreign policy makers"

        I will remember that one

    • Beth

      Not arguing with Jewish hatred by Arabs, although that definitely swings both ways

      No, 'sanity'…….it does not. No where in the Bible will you find preachings that command the followers to slay Arabs….simply because they are Arabs.

      • Steve

        He's wrong anyhow, even in the modern day context. Israeli Arabs are treated as equals, while Jews have been evicted from Arab lands. The Arab world longs to complete Hitler's genocide. Jews don't even begin to touch on an Arab genocide. Poster Sanity's moral equivalence reflex is absurdly misplaced here.

    • joe

      your right

    • VegasLiberty

      Let me add one more point in reply to (in)sanity: Israel fought her war for independence in 1948 all by herself, attacked by combined Arab armies which completely surrounded her, and with absolutely no American help. The US didn't help in the '67 war either, by the way, and nearly permitted Israel's extermination in the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

  • theleastthreat

    I have a feeling this is going to to get into an argument over history.Which I will help start. Who's with me? There are more than just biblical references to Judea and Israel. There were Roman historians of that period who referenced Judea and the people living there. There are also archeological sites that back up the biblical text. The Jews have long been a people. They didn't just start up in the 19th century. Is anybody dumb enough to claim they were the Scientologists of the 1800's and sprang up out of nowhere? ( I'm done for now, Add your contributions at will.)

    • NotaBene

      And there are several references in Herodotus (who was writing in 500 BCE) to Palestine, but none to the Jews. This doesn't prove the Jews didn't exist back then, but it DOES prove that Palestine did exist.

      • ziontruth

        "…but it DOES prove that Palestine did exist."

        Was that ever in question? The issue is whether the general-Levant-cultured, Arabic-dialect-speaking, racially-disparate people have any better claim to this land, Palestine or the Land of Israel or whatever you call it, than the Jews. The Jews have culture, language and religion* tying them to this land, the Arab colonists have nothing but a fraudulent narrative.

        *Yes, I know Jews too are racially disparate. Does not affect the argument, because Jewishness is not and never has been based on racial unity.

      • theleastthreat

        So the Romans didn't fight with Jewish zealots about the Roman presence in Judea? That would have come as quite startling news to Emporer. What do you think these Jews were so angry at Rome about?

        • NotaBene

          Um, what is your point? You're talking about something that happened 600 years later…

          • theleastthreat

            That was a refernce to Jews and their land that they held long ago. I first referred to Judea. I mentioned the Roman occupation of Jewish territories. You threw in Herodotus.and then you seemed to imply there was never any Jewish homeland in that part of the world. I'm saying they aren't newcomers to that region. Can you see that point now?

      • Beth

        Addressed to NotaBene

        Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone – in his appointed times.

        We shall see

  • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

    I am all in favor of Newt Gingrich for President of Israel. You can have him.

    • zsqpwxxeh

      How about Flipside for President of Gaza? Then they can have you.

      • ziontruth

        Well said.

    • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

      I am actually not interested in vacating a free country to live in the middle east.

  • davarino

    I may be crazy but this is why I like Newt, because he is the only candidate with the stones to tell it like it is, on a lot of differant subjects

  • Sanity

    The bible is nothing more than Judeo/Christian mythology.

    • mrbean

      And the Quran is a piece of literary trash written by a homicidal maniac who was also a pedofile.

      • Sanity

        It's all mythology

    • mukenecca

      If Bible is nothing more than Judeo/Christian then why do you insist that the biblical story of Jews "taking it (the land) from other peoples" is true? Can't you see the contradiction?

      Perhaps it is time for you to change your moniker so it fits better the gibberish you emit.

      • Sanity

        I didn't say that. I said the old testament said that. The Jews created the state of Israel in 1947. Perhaps you should read and understand better.

        • mukenecca

          Yes, you did say "THAT", or that "the Bible is nothing more than Judeo Christian mythology". How the hell can you deny it when your comment is still there for everyone to see?
          Sanity, are you insane, or too dense to understand my point, which is confronting you with the incoherence of your position. I was simply trying to make you aware that you are supporting your claim with elements from a narrative you reject as fictional. It is not rocket science to see the stupidity of it. Still, yuou try to defend it…

    • mukenecca

      If "the Bible is nothing more than Judeo/Christian mythology" then why do you insist that the biblical story of Jews "taking it (the land) from other peoples" is true? Can't you see the contradiction?

      Perhaps it is time for you to change your moniker so it fits better the gibberish you emit.

    • BS77

      You yourself, Mr. In Sanity, are a fiction created by your own delusions…..Try having a little humility before you pontificate on matters you do not understand.

    • joe

      OMG right again…..thats twice! YOU GO!

    • Beth

      Right 'sanity' (sarc/off)

      Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

      Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

      Isa 41:26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous?

      Exd 15:14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina. (where, exactly, 'Sanity' does that leave you?….)

      Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone – in his appointed times. (we shall see)

      Here's the important part: There is no mention of Palestine in their koran. The name Israel is mentioned though (the koran EVEN devoted a whole chapter to "the children of Israel"….and get this…..without ever explaining Who the Father is…..of the children of Israel)….but not once is the name Palestine ever mentioned in their koran.

      This is an important fact to be aware of……not for the sake of winning a debate…but…. for the sake of saving lives (literally)….

      Taught in their koran:

      Mass Murder……………………………009.005 – 033.061
      Gang Rape………………………………033.052
      Beheadings……………………………..047.004
      Crucifixions………………………………005.033
      Robbery…………………………………..008.041
      Telling lies to non-muslims………….003.028
      Cutting off hands and feet…………..005.033
      Treason……………………………………008.067
      Racism…………………………………….005.041

      • Sanity

        It's all bronze age nonsense to me. Let religion go. Stop believing in imaginary things and manipulated texts.

        • ziontruth

          "Let religion go. Stop believing in imaginary things and manipulated texts."

          Yes, let religion go. Start believing in imaginary utopian ideas and manipulative pseudoscience like Marxism with its track record of 100,000,000 human deaths to its name.

        • Beth

          "manipulate"

          b: to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage

          The words that I have posted…whether they be from the Bible or the koran…..speak for themselves.

          There are MANY words that I have posted…that did not come from me. In fact, my posts include words that have a great affect upon this world….No?….of authors who are no longer here…..and haven't been for a long time.

          But, because their words have such an influence as to what is going on this world, I believe it is important to post such words.

          To say that I 'manipulate' such words…………….is a far stretch in supporting the vicious brutal teachings of the koran.

          You're gonna have to come up with something better than that Sanity…to say that I manipulated the actual writings of the koran.

          What a great honor that would be for me….for you see….in those words of the koran (should I be given so great a power) there would be no teachings of beheadings.

  • Sanity

    Also I'm not saying the Jews didn't exist as a people. It is only the old testament that claims the land they named and claimed as Israel. If you read the old testament they took it by force from the peoples already there. Much like your country and mine. Nation states have been invented redefined throughout all history and usually by force. Look at the dividing and redefining of Europe and the Middle East after both world wars. All nations are an invented human construct and nothing more. The land itself existed long before we did.

    • NotaBene

      Nu-uh! Some states (such as mine) are invented by God; all those states containing people who are brown or black or have different religions are just inventions based on HATRED AND LIES.

      Funny how that worked out huh?

    • Ari

      You have a point; but it doesn’t apply to the use of the word “invented” referring to “Palestine” or “Palestinians”.

      Yes, all nations are created — or “invented” — at some point in time. And the modern nation-state of Israel was created (“invented”) in the aftermath of World War I. The then owners of the land, the Ottomans, fought against the allies (U.S., U.K., France) and lost. The land thus became “ours” to give to whom “we” wished. For a number of reasons (WWII and the Holocaust not being the least of them), “we” gave it to (mostly European) Jews to establish a Jewish State.

      The surrounding Arab nations, all created out of the British and French Mandates from WWI, immediately attacked the new nation. Fair enough. Except for two things: 1) this should have re-opened WWI with the British, but they had walked away and washed their hands of what they had helped create; and, 2) more importantly, those Arab nations LOST …. BADLY.

      That could have been the end of things, with peace restored; but, instead, the Arab nations attacked Israel again, and again. And LOST, again, and again.

      So, rather than direct (i.e., fair and honest) declarations of war — which they could not win — they resorted to lies, subterfuge, terrorism, and murder. All aided and abetted by the American Media, American politicians, the United Nations, etc., etc..

      As for “Palestine” and “Palestinians” being “invented”; what is usually meant is that the CLAIM made by Arabs occupying Isreali (formerly British, formerly Ottoman) Territory — that “they” are or were a unified people or nation PRIOR to the creation of modern Israel — is a LIE. There never was such a people or nation; neither born nor “invented” through conquest. This claim is the claim upon which the entire modern Arab-Israeli conflict rests. It is false.

      Hope that helps in terms of “invented” as referring to “Palestine”, and “invented”/created in the usual sense as you referred to.

      • ziontruth

        "Yes, all nations are created — or 'invented' — at some point in time. And the modern nation-state of Israel was created ('invented') in the aftermath of World War I."

        States are created; nations evolve. States are created by wars, mergers, treaties, unions and other artifacts of human fiat. Nations come to be when a particular bloodline has separated enough from the ancestral source—not necessarily genetically, could be also culturally, linguistically etc.—to be distinct from it, and from other branches stemming from that source.

        You can't talk of a state being "invented," because states are always created by human fiat. You can talk of a nation being invented—in the unnatural, and usually modern, occurrence of a nation being declared by human fiat instead of coming to be through evolution. The status of such nations as real nations is dubious at best, until in the passage of time such nations have built a positive distinction (culture or language or race, etc.). The fictitious non-Jewish "Palestinian nation" has so far not even started on the way, them being so mired in the anti-culture of suicide-murder to have expended any effort in forming a positive distinction. So the Arab settler-colonist land-thieves in Palestine are not a nation even now, and therefore they deserve no state; the Jews, the only true Palestinians, have the right to expel them all for being colonial invaders encroaching on their land.

    • joe

      3…

    • Steve

      Even though ancient Jews took the land by force, that was 4,000 years ago! History says Jews are more entitled to Israel than are almost any other people to the land on which they now reside, and infinitely more so than Palestinians. And more so, I might add, than Americans to the United States. When I see those who oppose Israel turning over their real estate to natives, I'll take their moralism more seriously.

  • NotaBene

    Is Newt some kind of science experiment to see how loathsome someone has to be before the GOP will nominate him for Presiident?

    • ziontruth

      He's a science experiment testing how much truth is required to make the leftist traitors' heads explode.

  • mrbean

    To NotaBene and Sanity along with all the other intellectually challenged leftists who advertize their ignorance by their posts. The Palestinians are nothing more than proxy terrorists for the Arab Muslim states. Palestinians have chosen the rules of the game. Jews should let them know in no uncertain terms what "Never Again" really means. For the Palestinian Muslims, it is a matter of record that Palestinians strap munitions on their own women and children and send them out on homicide-suicide missions to murder other innocent Jewish women and children in markets, restuarants, on school buses, and in their homes. The Palestinians in their own words and by their actions are committed to the genocide of the Jewish people therefore, have foreited their rights to even exist at all let alone be given a UN and US sanctioned terrorist state.

    • fiddler

      Agreed. It is a wonder that they get a hearing in the arena of legitimate concerns. Murder is murder and killing innocent children, regardless of your grievances is atrocity worthy of outrage and repudiation. Our "dear" friends in the brain-dead media would do well to disclose these nagging facts when they air their "grievances" to give balance. Sadly they don't know how since they are governed by ideology. Real journalism was set aside long ago. This is arguably why they are not outraged by "Fast and Furious", i.e. 200 people dead. This to them is merely an "inconvenient truth" that they can brush aside as not worthy of the news.

    • fiddler

      And such actions will not go unpunished ultiimately.

  • Northanhymbre Heathen

    If I was A US citizen I'd vote for Gingrich! Nothing wrong with telling the truth…

    • al Kidya

      Ditto to that, North!

  • Hokma

    When I first learned of what Newt said I was very happy. But upon reflection, while it may be the truth is it a statement that is in the best interest of Israel right now? It is one thing when a political pundit or former politician makes such a statement. It is quite another when it is someone who could be President of the United States.

    I believe that Israel should determine how the strategy and public rhetoric regarding the so-called Palestinians is handled. We do not like the fact that Obama has tried to dictate terms to the Israelis without prior approval, and while we may enjoy the candor of Newt Gingrich, I am not sure Israeli leaders would have wanted this aired with as much candor right now with tensions as high as they are.

    Also, Gingrich's analogy to Reagan and the Berlin Wall was not relevant since that was a U.S. war and required out direct involvement. The Palestinians is Israel's problem and should be led by Israel – not by U.S. leaders forcing Israel into good or bad decisions.

    • ziontruth

      "I believe that Israel should determine how the strategy and public rhetoric regarding the so-called Palestinians is handled. … I am not sure Israeli leaders would have wanted this aired with as much candor right now with tensions as high as they are."

      Point taken, but keep in mind that a lot of Israel's "leaders" are as bad as (and often worse than) Obamarx is for Israel. Israel is no more immune to the political malady of left-wing defeatocracy than any other state.

      "The [Arab colonists] is Israel's problem and should be led by Israel – not by U.S. leaders forcing Israel into good or bad decisions."

      Again, as an Israeli Jew I agree with the general idea, but believe me, neither Newt nor Barry could have such an effect on Israel as Israel's many misguided politicians paying heed to Israel's near-totally treasonous mainstream media. Cheers to Newt, jeers to Barry, but my main worry is our local pols.

      • Hokma

        No U.S. President has had such a negative effect on the Middle East as Obama has and I believe it has been intentional. His teleprompter rhetoric about supporting Israel are of course empty words. I would trust any of the Israeli pols over anythng coming out of Obama and only pray he does not get a second term.

    • mrbean

      You say: "I am not sure Israeli leaders would have wanted this aired with as much candor right now with tensions as high as they are."

      That is probably true, as in every country there are those who have a "feed the alligatir" appeasement mindset in hope that they will be killed last. The Palestinians and the Muslim Arab States have openly stated that they fully intend to destroy Israel and finish Hitler's final solution as the genocide of the Jewish people. So what is there to negotiate, the terms of their destruction. This is long overdue as the propoganda of Palestinian lies has gone on far too long.

      • Hokma

        Now that it is out, I would hope that candidates like Newt Gingrich don't walk it back.

  • Piera Prister

    Newt Gingrich is right, Palestinians are only Arabs. I agree, he is good also wheh he declares that he would move the American Embassy from Tel- Aviv to Jerusalem and he woul choose John Bolton as Secretary of State.
    But we should not endorse him as republican candidate, he has got skeletons in his closet on civil rights and on gender gap.
    In a public presidential debate Obama will easily defeat him on this subject and he will allow Obama to get the second mandate. Yesterday I read an interesting article by Peggy Noonnam on the W.S.Journal on this matter. Its illuminating title is: Gingrich Is Inspiring-and Disturbing." She writes about him "Ethically dubious? True. Intelligent and accomplished? True…

    • fiddler

      To compare the President: "Ethically dubious? True." Intelligent and accomplished? Half true. If I may add: "Has a penchant for mischief? True" Is narcissistic? True. I could go on, but you get the idea.

    • Steve

      I more or less agree, in that I worry about Newt as the nominee. But less because of his moral issues – is Obama so clean? – but because he's unpredictable and somewhat erratic. A disturbed American people will be looking for a steady hand after the chaotic Obama years. Romney is that steady hand. Newt means more chaos – even if a better government.

      (However, I really pleased that newt had the courage to call a spade a spade: anyone with the smallest amount of knowledge knows the Palestinians are indeed an invented people, regardless of the implications.)

  • Raymond in DC

    Let me offer two points, one from personal history. In the mid-1970s I helped teach a course on the Middle East at a major mid-western university. It was called not the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict but the ARAB-Israeli Conflict. For while Israel was already subject to terrorism, its main antagonists to date had been Arab nations. (That there was an Islamic element to the dispute was not then understood – not just because Islam as a driving force was under-appreciated, but because Israel then had relations with both Turkey and Iran.)

    The second point to note is that there was neither a recognition on the part of neighboring states in the 1940s that the Palestinians were a distinct people, nor any intent to allow the emergence of a distinct state of Arab "Palestine". Rather, as the war of 1948-49 demonstrated, Egypt, Jordan and Syria all intended to grab their piece of the Jewish carcass once Israel was defeated. They lost that war however, with Egypt making do with the Gaza Strip (which they maintained under military administration) and Jordan grabbing the territories of Judea and Samaria (which they themselves renamed the West Bank) and parts of Jerusalem. Syria got just a foothold near the Sea of Galilee.

  • jewdog

    The real test is whether we are going to continue our appeasement policy, or are we going to read the riot act to OPEC and tell them that we will use military force to ensure the flow of oil.

  • crackerjack

    If there are no Palestinians, they being Arabs, there are no Israelis, they being Jews. Neither are they US Americans, they being Europeans, Asians and Africa.

    • Sonshinepatriot

      I guess you never read the Bible?

  • Obamapoop

    Craperjack, the point you missed is not that there are not native peoples that inhabited the area referred to as Palestine, the point is that the most recent history of the world almost unanimously voted to recognize the nation of Isreal. Palestine was a response to that by the Arab nations who wanted to get rid of the Jews. The saddest part is that the modern day Palestinian is caught between a rock and a hard place being used as fodder by nations such as Iran and Egypt.
    Americans fought England for the right to call ourselves Americans, thats why we are not Europeans
    Heck we conquered Texas and Californication from the Mexicans, but the fact is that we took the land and we declared it the U.S. You can cry all you want to about it but thats the truth.

  • Brujo Blanco

    This quoting of the Bible and the Koran is a lot of who shot John. The Jews have a right to exist because they are human. Efforts to reach back into the bowels of history and correct wrongs done to whoever. What counts is now. It is obvious that Israel today is a country put together by international agreement. Bit is also obvious that the Muslim world not only wants to dismantle Israel but put all the Jews in the world to death.

  • crackerjack

    Obamapoop, as you point out, the plain truth is that Israel is an invention of the UN. The last time Jews had anything resembling a rule in the area was as a minor province of the Roman Empire.

    • Steve

      Israel is the re-creation of an ancient state, not exactly an invention. Regardless, since those on the left worship the UN, they should consider Israel the most legitimate nation on earth.

    • TheThinMan

      History is a strange animal – and the winners/conquerors always get to tell it their way.

      the current State of Israel, is , as crackerjack points out, an invention of the UN, and in particular Great Britain who had the control of Palestine at the end of WWI. But then, most of the Nations on the earth are inventions of Europeans – all of Africa – even Egypt's borders – were drawn on maps by Europeans. Spain, Portugal, England and France pretty much divided up the world, much as we see it today. The notable exception might be China and their territories.

      But there was no state in the area called "Palestine" at the end of WWII. the whole area was barely occupied by scattered family/tribes of Arabic people that scrabbled for a living in the mostly arid desert type region.

      Here is an interesting link about Palestine and the current State of Israel: http://www.palestinefacts.org/

  • Nonsense

    Isn't it the United States of America who are the largest holders of weapons of mass destruction, proponents and active participants of war crimes and atrocities against peoples and nations of the world and its own people and run by crazed, religious fundamentalists?

    • RiverFred

      If it wasn't for the USA and its weapons of mass destruction we would all be speaking German and possibly Japanese.

  • Flowerknife_us

    The WORLD allowed the State of Israel to come into being. Israel has defended that right of being by force of arms. Find those responsible for forcing such need for defence and there you'll find those who need the peace most.

  • Host

    We must also not forget that the Romans created the land of Palestine as a direct insult to rebellious Jews.

    • Ari

      Yes. Insulting them by referring to Philistia and the Philistines. It always seems odd to me how wedded the modern arab "Palestinians" are to that name: "Palestine". Especially since the original Philistines were of Greek descent, not arab.

  • kafirman

    Background: All four historic Sunni schools of jurisprudence do not punish vigilantes from murdering apostates. The Shia story is the same.

    Hearing Muslims argue for Palestinian self-determination is a meal served for ignorant Western consumption. Absolutely Fakestinian.

  • Amused

    The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian
    state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of
    Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference
    between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for
    political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
    a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit
    the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism…
    For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined
    borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. While as a Palestinian,
    I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.
    However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will
    not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." – PLO executive
    committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977, interview with the Dutch
    newspaper Trouw.

    Newt got it DEAD RIGHT .

  • CallingAllAngels

    Newt is so refreshing and says the truth. I hope that he stays on this position and becomes the next U.S President.

  • dodo

    The only way to fight the carefully crafted lies of the Palestinians is with the truth.

    • ziontruth

      "The only way to fight the carefully crafted lies of the Palestinians is with the truth."

      Agreed, but the problem isn't lack of truth so much as it is that the truth isn't being allowed to be spoken out. The education centers and media outlets are nearly all today in the hands of people of the lie, the Marxists, friends and allies of the Islamic imperialists. As the gatekeepers of information distribution, they propagate the lies and see to it that the truth can be disseminated only through clandestine channels.

      If the Jewish State is to win this war, it must realize it is a war; it must realize it is in a full-scale war against the mainstream media outlets of the world, and act accordingly. The Jewish State must act to force the hostile media outlets to cease and desist from propagating the lies and to disseminate instead—be it against their will as it surely is—the truth. If you want to win the PR war, "Pretty please with sugar on top" won't cut it—you must grab the megaphone from the other side.

  • ziontruth

    "The last time Jews had anything resembling a rule in the area was as a minor province of the Roman Empire."

    History knowledge fail. It was the Hasmonean renewed kingdom (what Jews are going to celebrate soon in Hanukkah), which was established following a successful (thanks be to HaShem) revolt against the Greek Seleucid rulers. That period of independence came to an end at the hands of the Roman general Pompey.

    And again, the obligatory close to this Euromarxist meddler: It's none of your business.

  • Sonshinepatriot

    Given the historical facts Newt spoke the truth. There are no people called Palestinians. This is not to delegitimize the Arabs living in the territories known as Judea and Samaria; the truth delegitimizes falsehoods perpetrated by the PLO leader Yasser Arafat who coined the term Palestinian in 1967. Now where in history is a state called Palestine? Read Roman history it was renamed Palestine by the Romans; that’s 2000 years ago and is just an effort by the Arabs to show legal claim to land they themselves conquered.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    I fully support Newt's position on this matter and would go much further if I were the Czar. However, there is no way I can support Newt for President for a lot of reasons, the biggest being his idiotic stance on amnesty for illegal immigrants. Indeed, it indicates that Newt is not serious about stopping illegal immigration and in fact he is using the issue to pander to liberal Hispanics because Hispanics will become the largest demographic in the future. Thus, he is supporting that liberal faction of the RINO establishment Republican Party that advocates tossing conservative principles and values and conservatives under the bus in favor of targeting liberal Hispanics.

    In addition, if Newt wins the nomination, it will amount to handing over Obama's re-election to him on a silver platter. It will also make winning back the senate absolutely impossible.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Everyone needs to get the words Arabs and Palestinians out of their minds. What has been happening in Israel for decades has nothing to do with Arabs or Palestinians that were created out of whole cloth in Moscow in 1964 by the Soviet KGB as a disinformation campaign, and instead has everything to do with Islamic supremacism. As the Jewish unbelievers in Israel are the victims of a permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against them. It's sole purpose is to destroy Israel and render it into the Dar al Islam via the imposition of Sharia for the purpose of making Islam supreme.

    Moreover, the Jewish unbelievers in Israel are far from the only non-Muslim unbelievers combating a violent jihad of conquest perpetually being waged against them, as the Hindu unbelievers in Kashmir, Jammu, and India, the Buddhist unbelievers in Thailand, the Christian unbelievers in the Philippines, the Orthodox Christian and atheist unbelievers in Chechnya and Russia, the Christian and animist unbelievers in Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Kenya, the Orthodox Christian unbelievers in Bosnia and Kosovo, etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum, also are all combating violent jihads of conquest for the purpose of making Islam supreme. Connect the dots people!

    In addition, the West via mass Muslim immigration for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme is also under siege via non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad. As Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter to assimilate and integrate, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate via the eventual imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

    Indeed, because of PC multiculturalism that pervades the West, jihad, which in stark contrast to terrorism can be both violent and non-violent and is in fact holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme, is always conflated and morally equated with terrorism, which as its name implies is always only violent and can be for any number of political causes. Thus, because jihad is always conflated and morally equated with terrorism, which again as its name implies is always only violent, the many non-violent varieties of stealth and deceptive jihad are taking place today against the West completely unopposed, undetected, and unacknowledged.

    As a matter of fact, the USA today is literally spending hundreds of billions of dollars annually just to accommodate mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage. Let me ask everyone, what other immigrant groups cost nearly so much money just to accommodate other than Muslims? The answer is zero.

    Nevertheless, even though this country is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, contemplating massively cutting the budget, massively raising taxes, and implementing severe draconian cuts to our military, all thanks to non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, no one in the Republican Party or the Dhimmicrat Party is suggesting outlawing Islam and banning and reversing mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage as a way of getting our financial house back in order. Proving at the same time that the Republican Party and the Dhimmicrat are just two sides of the same leftwing coin, and never mind the fact that the left is in bed with Islam.

    If we outlawed Islam and banned and reversed mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage, we could simply roll back the enforcement of the intrusive Patriot Act, roll back the immense and totally useless Department of Homeland Security, roll back the extremely invasive TSA, and roll back the totally incompetent and massive National Intelligence Directorate, all of which together cost hundreds of billions of dollars to operate on an annual basis. As zero Muslims living in America would equal zero possibility of violent jihad attacks and would eliminate at the same time non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad as well, and we could thus use the money we are today wasting to fund those federal boondoggles just to continue accommodating mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage, which is really non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, instead to get our financial house back in order.

    In fact, outlawing Islam and banning and reversing mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage post 9/11 should have been the first thing GWB did, instead of proclaiming that Islam is a Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists and then like a Dhimmicrat on steroids using the 9/11 jihad attacks as a crisis to justify massively expanding the size, scope, and power of the federal government and at the same time usurping our formerly heretofore constitutionally protected rights and freedoms. Indeed, the 9/11 jihad attacks were like a godsend for the left.

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