The Character Assassination of Robert Spencer

David Horowitz was one of the founders of the New Left in the 1960s and an editor of its largest magazine, Ramparts. He is the author, with Peter Collier, of three best selling dynastic biographies: The Rockefellers: An American Dynasty (1976); The Kennedys: An American Dream (1984); and The Fords: An American Epic (1987). Looking back in anger at their days in the New Left, he and Collier wrote Destructive Generation (1989), a chronicle of their second thoughts about the 60s that has been compared to Whittaker Chambers’ Witness and other classic works documenting a break from totalitarianism. Horowitz examined this subject more closely in Radical Son (1996), a memoir tracing his odyssey from “red-diaper baby” to conservative activist that George Gilder described as “the first great autobiography of his generation.” He is author of the newly published book The Great Betrayal (Regnery 2014), which is a chronicle of the Democrats treachery in the war on terror before 9/11 to the death of Osama bin Laden.


The New York Times today has a wretched editorial masquerading as a news story on Robert Spencer and his alleged complicity in the Oslo massacres because his ideas are cited by the lunatic responsible. Joseph McCarthy could not have done it better. The Times next will blame Noam Chomsky for the crimes of Osama bin Laden and Al Gore for the crimes of the Unabomber since the ideas of both were cited by the lunatics. Chomsky is not only cited by the Islamic terrorists, he openly supports them — yet the Times would be the first to express shock and outrage at the mere suggestion of Chomsky’s complicity in the crimes of al-Qaeda, Hizbollah and Hamas.

Robert Spencer has never supported a terrorist act. His crime in the eyes of the left is to have told the truth about Islamic fanatics beginning with the Islamic prophet who called for the extermination of the Jews and said in his farewell speech that he was called to fight until all men say that there is no God but allah. (see Bruce Thornton’s article today’s Frontpage).

The attack on Robert Spencer, a man of great courage and decency, is just one phase in the war against all those who speak out against Islamic terror and Islamic imperialism. The Times attack is but the latest and most repulsive salvo in this war.

  • Questions

    You can be sure that this "climate of hate" argument will be used to probe or punish all manner of genuine patriotic imigration reform groups (e.g., vdare.com) as well as Dr. Spencer. The $outhern Poverty Law Center never had a fundraising tool this effective.

    One lone Christian fundamentalist lacking in social skills or moral compass does not define our movement. But he has set it back, possibly by decades.

    Meanwhile, I grieve for the Norwegians, a great nation despite the bad apples among them.

    • zsqpwxxeh

      If you are repeating the line that he is a "Christian Fundamentalist," you are already swallowing the NYT/leftist narrative. This guy was a psychopathic killer, and no more Christian than seminarian Josef Stalin.

      Fight the spin, don't just roll over.

      • fellabusta

        you could say exactly what you just said about Muslim terrorists. They were just citing their religion, correct? No Muslim would accept those terrorists as being legitimately Muslim. It goes both ways.

        • zsqpwxxeh

          "No Muslim would accept those (which?) terrorists as being legitimately Muslim."

          There's a fellow from Hamas who wants to talk to you. He looks annoyed.

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      "This guy was a psychopathic killer, and no more Christian than seminarian Josef Stalin." – great line! Thank you!

      I do not quite understand why all this crowd of islamic apologists and "multi-culti" liberasts got so excited in their expose of "islamophobia" right now…

      1) Islamophobia is good. Islamohatia is even better. We need more of both.

      2) That Norwegian murderer in fact did not aim to murder any moslems (and perhaps murdered not one of them).

      3) The Norwegian murderer had vague "grievances" against the Norwegian government and its "multi-culti" role in ruining Norway. Well, the grievances were quite proper, yet the way of their resolution – criminal and damaging the cause, if there were one.

      4) It is not yet known whether the murderer had associates, and which kind.

      5) In case of Oklahoma bombing, McVey did have islamic (Iraqi) associates. It is just obvious that our islamic enemies within may look for "Christian looking accomplices" with some crazy grievances. For islam that would be much more productive to commit terror this way than to employ their own kind shouting Allah stinks or whatever…

      • nina

        There are several hundred european looking terrorists training at Al queda camps in Pakistan. But it is certain that the Norvegian killer did not belong to them. He stated his reasons, and if it were not for the murders, they were quite reasonable. His disturbed personality shows in the fact that he resorted to murder.

    • Jeff Orr

      Dont call him a Christian. A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ, Jesus is God and God is love. Love does not murder.

    • Susie Nelson

      The murderer in Norway is not a Christian. Just because he’s not a muslim or jew that doesn’t make him an automatic Christian. One has to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and have a person relationship with Him. IF he had done that he never would have killed.

      Wake up – don’t buy into the lamestream media’s attempt to make him an automatic Christian as they did Timothy McVeigh. There’s no proof that either were/are Christians.

      Get into reality and don’t accept everything you might read.

  • Al Blue

    Spencer cannot be character assassinated as he has no character to assassinate. The mass murderer quoted his writings 64 times ! You, David Horowitz, along with Pam Geller and other Israel First Ultra-Right Racist Kooks have blood on your hands because it was your insane rhetoric which inspired this killer. You have stoked the paranoia of our fellow Jews into a money making machine. This enabled you to move from a crowded Berkeley apartment to a mansion in Bel Air. You are no different from the Communists who murdered 200 million people in the 20th century or the dirty Americans who murdered millions in Indochina or the Israelis who have expelled millions of Palestinian Arabs and murdered hundreds of thousands more.
    You are a piece of human excrement and I am deeply ashamed of you.

    • JihadBob

      How many times did OBL quote the Koran and hadiths in his declaration of war against the United States and world Jewry?

      If Spencer can be blamed for reporting on violent actions, then you would agree to blame the Koran for those Muslims who carry out atrocities in its name?

      • http://apollospaeks.blogtownhall.com/ ApolloSpeaks

        If for argument’s sake Robert Spencer’s writings somehow influenced one Norwegian lunatic to mass murder 76 of his countrymen for being weak on Moslem immigration and defending Western culture what is that compared to the Koran which inspired millions over the centuries to kill many more millions in Allah’s name to spread Islamic culture?

      • Al Blue

        He never declared war on all Jews or all Americans. You are quite stupid.

        • JihadBob

          Then please explain the fatwa's title and it's decree:

          World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders

          The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies–civilians and military–is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

          Anyways, I see you didn't address the main point of my question, so I'll ask it again; do you blame the Koran when Muslims cite its verses when they carry out acts of violence?

      • Al Blue

        No. The Koran does not sanction mass murder anymore than the Unholy Bible or the Talmud, which of course is plenty.

        • JihadBob

          I think you purposely missed the point; Muslims terrorists themselves cite the Koran's passages as reason for their actions.

          So, if Spencer is to blame for his work as an analyst for violence for reporting on this connection, then surely the Koran is to blame when Muslims use its passages to commit acts of violence.

          • Al Blue

            Any one can cite anything. I've heard Spencer many times on local radio and he's a hater & racist to the core, as are 95% of the Zionist nuts posting here.

          • JihadBob

            So does that mean you now don't believe Spencer has blood on his hands because '[a]ny one can cite anything'?

            If Spencer has blood on his hands – for reporting on violence – then the Koran is soaked in it from Muslims using its verses to justify their violence.

        • JihadBob

          Oh, any comment on OBL's declaration of war against Jews and Americans and his quotes from the Koran (including his quoting of verse 9:36, I believe, in the same paragraph he calls for the killing of Americans and her allies?)

    • JustHere

      No, no–you got your facts wrong, communists murdered one trillion five hundred billion seventy million three hundred thirty thousand and seven hundred fourteen people. Israel, certainly, murdered around three billion Arabs and expelled around seven billion of them, you–hysterical illiterate dweeb (or dweebette). If you need the list of any other additional cliches–just ask.

      P.S. I know for sure that Robert Spencer earned five gazillion dollars for his writings.

      • nina

        Bravo. But it is useless to even try to discuss anything with people like this ignoramous.

        • Al Blue

          I agree, Nina, that Spencer is quite stupid but he still needs exposure.

          • JustHere

            Actually, it is you, who exhibit the traits of the shallow and ignorant salon lefty–the position at which most…well, salon lefties arrive as the result of the inherent stupidity. Hysterical outbursts, meanwhile, are the first symptoms of the lack of any substance.

          • Al Blue

            I agree. You have just described yourself AND all the Spencer apologists to a T.

      • Al Blue

        Is this Horowitz posting and forgetting his meds again ?

    • jack

      I'm only replying to this asinine post by Al Blue to give a shout out to Robert Spenser. The paragraph of insane hatred by Al Blue is completely unworthy of debate. Mr. Spenser and Mr. Horowitz, two thumbs up. Keep doing what you do.

      • mikidiki

        and two fingers up to Al Blue from me.

        • Al Blue

          You can count to two ?

      • Al Blue

        Jack, I'm not perceiving any love from Spencer or Crazy Davy or YOU.

    • tarleton

      shut up wank spanner…you don't know what the hell you're talking about

      • Al Blue

        Tarleton, is that a nice way to talk to your Mom ?

    • Tziona

      "You have stoked the paranoia of our fellow Jews…" If you are Jewish, you are obviously an Ashkenazi completely ignorant of the history of Jews in the Dar al-Islam (Islamic world). As a Jew of Iraqi descent I can tell you there is nothing paranoid about understanding Islamic persecution of Jews and Christians – it's in the Koran, commanded by Mohammed himself. I suggest you go learn some Sephardi and Mizrahi history from Jewish sources. WE (Mizrahim) suffered 1400 years of persecution at the hands of Muslims and YOU are ashamed of someone to brings it to the attention of the world!? Don't be idiot!

      • Al Blue

        We had a much better history in the Muslim world than among the Christ Culters.
        We never suffered anywhere near under the Muslims what we did under the ChristCulters. Your an ignorant racist and your history is all wrong.
        See The Invention Of The Jewish People by Israeli Professor Shlomo Sand.

        • Tziona

          That's total BS, and shows how absolutely, totally ignorant you are of Jewish history in the Middle-East and North Africa. I suggest that if you are not prepared to read Middle Eastern Jewish history from Jewish sources (the fact you cite Sands shows you'd rather live in fantasyland than deal with reality), I'd suggest you read the Koran (preferably in Arabic, but you probably don't know Arabic do you?) and note the Jew-hatred oozing from Muhammed, the Perfect Man's lips, and then read the Sira and the Hadith's and see for yourself how Muhammed gloated over the torture, murder, rape and pillage of Jews. My hatred of Islam is not racist, the Muslims are not a different race to me. No, my hatred of Islam is based on what the Muslims have done to my family, my people, generation after generation, are still doing, and will continue to do in future because it is commanded by their "prophet" and scrawled in the "holy writ". This is reality, face it! Fantasy won't save you, just like believing in the fantasy of "resettlement in the East" and believing the shower-heads were real didn't save your Ashkenazi brethren from Germany.

          • Al Blue

            You can't even spell SAND's name, your whole rant is racist to the core and historically inaccurate. Which is why I gave a reference. I could give you many more but you are a mentally deranged, intellectually challenged lunatic, not worth any more time.

          • Tziona

            Sand's work has been dismissed by far better academics than him and anyway it is irrelevant to the history of Jews in Arab Lands, regardless of their genetic roots, Muslims have still persecuted Jews for 1400 years and have codified their doctrine of persecution in their religious/legal system. So instead of calling people names why don't you engage in some rational debate? And instead of trying to argue from a single discredited source why don't you read more widely?

          • Al Blue

            No it hasn't. Those Arab Jews are the ones that converted to Judaism after the fall of the temple in 70CE. The Romans did not expel the Jews and for centuries Judaism was a proselytizing religion.
            I have listed at least three sources here and I could list dozens more.
            Muslims have not persecuted Jews. Jews were far more welcome in Muslim lands until Israel in 1948 dispossesse both the Muslim and Christian Palestinians.
            What would YOU know about rational debate ? You have been engaged in hysterical tantrums and raving rants from the beginning.
            "Dismissed" and "Discredited" by whom ? Tom Segev, the leading historian, strongly endorsed Sand's book as did Avi Shlaim, another Israeli historian. The racist New Republic didn't like it but couldn't refute it.

          • Tziona

            "Muslims have not persecuted Jews."

            Hahahaha, that is patent nonsense. Even the Koran and Sunna gloat over Islam's persecution of Jews; ever heard of the Battle of the Trench where Muhammed slaughtered hundreds of Jews in the marketplace of Yathrib-Medina, ever heard of the raid on Khaybar? where Muhammed slaughtered the Jewish farmers of Khaybar? Muhammed is the Ihnsan al-Kamil, the "perfect man", the role model for Muslim behaviour, if he himself persecuted Jews and called upon his followers to persecute Jews, why on earth would they NOT persecute Jews? It's in the Koran, it's in the sunna, it's encoded in the sharia and it's recorded in the histories of both the Muslims (who gloat about it) and the Mizrahi Jews (who eulogize because of it). You can deny it all you want, to ease your troubled mind, but you can't expunge the historical record.

        • Jhon

          Blue, why don't you just go to a mosque and told them you are a jew, let see what's going to happen to you!

          I am an Indonesian minority, I know a Belgian gay who is a muslim, yes that a weird combination, on one Friday he when to a mosque to pray and you know what the Indonesian muslims did to him? they beat him and kick him out of the mosque!

          • Al Blue

            I have. No problem.

        • SpiritOf1683

          As you hate Christians so much, why are you living in a Christian nation? Shouldn't you be living in Iran or Pakistan instead, parasite?

          • Al Blue

            I never said that I hated all Christians. I said our history with them was much worse than with the Muslims. And legally this is NOT a Christian nation.

    • Brad

      You, sir, are one sick individual.

      • Al Blue

        Brad, you are projecting again.

    • Sylvie7

      You have stoked the paranoia of our fellow Jews into a money making machine.

      Jewish paranoia developed over the centuries as a protective defense. It didn't emerge from some one's sick thoughts one night. Anyone who commits an act of such indifference to the rights and lives of other people drew his own sick conclusions and felt important enough to act on them.

      Your rage and vulgarity at writers whether quoted or not is off base. Take a look at all the utterances of screaming Muslims calling for the death of Jews or celebrating the Kaybar massacre as they quote anti Jewish comments from their holy writ. Have you gone out to massacre Muslim kids because of it? As for Israel, war is ugly, people on both sides get killed and maimed. Maybe you haven't noticed that Israel has had to defend its people every year for well over a hundred years, before it was a State. I know your attitudes go over well at cocktails parties these days, but they show that your need to be PC is stronger than your ability to absorb facts.

      • Al Blue

        Jewish paranoia developed from the racist Chosen People concept and the insane idea that we are literal descendants of the ancient Hebrews, who by the way exterminated many other tribes at that time. You want a listing of them ?
        Jews are to gross exaggeration what Blacks are to crime. We are the champs here.

        • Tziona

          Believing in Shlomo Sands' fictions do not make them real. What is racist about Am Bahar, w'Am Kadosh, w'Am Segulah? If Am Bahar makes Jews racist, then the Levites must be the racists of the racists because they are Shebhet Bahar, the Chosen Tribe. But then again, maybe Bahar doesn't mean what you want it to mean, perhaps Bahar in Hebrew doesn't have the same connotations as Chosen does in English – not that Chosen is particularly wonderful when you've been chosen to pay for everyone else's misdeeds.

          Furthermore, "Jewish" is not a race. If you think otherwise, kindly explain to me the race-change procedures converts undergo, it must be fascinating. Is it an operation under general anaesthetic or some other 'heap big Jew medicine-man magic'? Oh, I know, I know, the Jew medicine-man drains all their blood (to be used for Matzah naturally) which is replaced by special Jew-blood that keeps them looking the same on the outside but turns them into Jew-lizards on the inside. Am I right, sir, am I right? … You're a tw*t, Blue.

          • Al Blue

            That's exactly Sand's position that Jews are not a pure race descended from the bloody ancient Hebrews. But most Jews disagree.
            Again, you can't even spell SAND's name, much less refute him.
            A recitation of invented atrocity tales does not make an argument. You are a very sick hater, Tziona. You have my deepest pity.

          • Tziona

            Jew's are a nation, no Jew I know or have ever known claims we are a race, I've only ever heard non-Jews call us a race, and like all nations we have accepted foreigners into our midst and some of our people have left. But Sand's work tries to claim we have NO connection to the ancient Israelites, this is patent nonsense and he has been refuted by many respected academics of high standing. Like Koestler's nonsense of '76, it is only used by anti-Semites to stir up hatred against the Jews and Israel. You should do your own research into the history of Jews under Muslim domination and into Islamic law as it pertains to non-Muslims. But then you're not a free-thinker are you? Do you know why Christians are being persecuted in Egypt right now? Now, after the Arab Spring has brought 'democracy' to the country they've lived in even longer than Muslims have?

          • Al Blue

            99% of all Jews I have ever known and I have known thousands believes they are a race. We are not a single nation as both Koestler's great work and Sand's PROVES. Sand never claimed NO connection but it's very tenuous and very mixed one at best.
            The new revolution in Egypt is not anti-Christian, in fact they were worse under the US-Israel supported Mubarak dictatorship.
            Read the Koestler and Sand books. Close mouth and open brain.
            I've done a great deal of research on this subject aqnd it wasn't from the Joan Peters' School of Mossad Disinformation.

          • Tziona

            Kostler and Sand PROVE NOTHING, they both present hypotheses, and they are fringe hypotheses at that, outliers on the bell-curve of expert opinion; they are not accepted by the concensus.

            No, the Egyptian Spring is not in itself anti-Christian, but what I asked was if you know why there has been a spike in anti-Christian attacks in Egypt since the toppling of Mubarak, and again this is a matter of public record, not opinion. Yet instead of answering the question you rush to deny there is even a problem. Reality is not your speciality is it?

            Anyway, I thought you'd decided I wasn't worth arguing with, yet here you coming back for more, and still in denial.

          • Tziona

            Oh, furthermore, perhaps the reason 99% of the Jews you know believe Jews are a race is because they are Ashkenazi, secular, anti-Zionist, leftists, and having given up on national and religious Jewish identity yet still needing to call themselves Jews they resort to a racial identity. I've seen this Jews-as-race thing far more often in Ashkenazi circles than Sephardi circles, so I'm guessing it must have something to do with Jews being the primary "other" in most of Europe, so if the Europeans were constantly calling them a race they are bound to take some of that on board. But in the Med-MENA area Jews were a) native to the region, and b) one of many interlocking groups – racial distinctions are very blurry in the Middle-East.

            If "Jewish" is a race, perhaps you can list the defining physical characteristics of the Jewish race.

    • tagalog

      And, of course, we are deeply ashamed of you, too.

      • Al Blue

        Who's the "we" here ? You are aptly named.

        • tagalog

          How would you know? Are you making certain assumptions about me from my user name?

          • Al Blue

            Yes. Again, who's the "we" here ?

          • tagalog

            Given that answer, why would I want to identify for you who I'm referring to when I say "we?" Looking at the plus number on my post, there are at least nine of us.

    • old white guy

      idiot. here we go. a paper that very few people read can do anything the mr spencer. i think not. just go away.

      • old white guy

        i was so angry . duh the ny times cannot do anything to mr spencer. the paper of record is broken. go away.

        • Al Blue

          You sound on your last legs, old fart.

      • Al Blue

        It's read by millions all over the world, many more people than read this crazed site.
        You are a very senile old white guy.

    • Phoenix

      Al Blue spoken like a true hate consumed leftist bigot. That's all you people can do when presented with the challenge to your fascist neo liberalism. The tide's turning – your day in the limelight has gone. We know who's to blame for Oslo. People like you who enabled the disintegration of countries' infrastuctures by importing Islamists.
      Robert Spencer – wear this piece of excrement's shame as a badge of honour. Thank you for your battle against the fascism of Islamism and Leftism.

      • Al Blue

        People of YOUR mentality perpetrated the crimes in Norway and the neoconmen are dying out. Ron Paul is the most Republican by far.
        By the way, YOU presented no challenge intellectually at all, neither does Spencer or Horowitz.

    • wblfbrox

      Al, you clearly gave his one a lot of thought, didn't you?

      • Al Blue

        Too much, more than a piece of trash like Spencer deserves.

    • Stephen_Brady

      I take it that you don't like Mr. Spencer? /sarc

      However, as one of the Americans who killed "millions" in Indochina, I take umbrage at your comparison of me to the communists that I fought. And … shhh! by the way … I am not dirty!

      • Al Blue

        You protest too much, Stephen Brady.

        • Stephen_Brady

          The actual quote is, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks," Hamlet, Act 3, Scene II. In Shakespearean England, by the way, the word "protest" did not have the same meaning, as today. It actually was an affirmation.

          Now, I will allow to you figure out what I meant …

          • Al Blue

            I have forgotten more Shakespeare and more Near Eastern history than you ever knew, little Stevie.

    • john

      Why dont u get your facts straight u lying jew hater. "expelled MILLIONS of Palestinians and Murdered HUNDREDS of thousands more" In 1947 there was only 1.2 million so called "Palestinians" and 600,000 became refugees most of them never seeing an isaeli soldier as they fled a war they started. Today there are 1.4 million in Israel, 2.5 million in West Bank, and 1.3 milion in Gaza. Meanwhile there are only 7 thousand Jews left in 22 arab countries because 99% of jews there were killed, fled, or expelled. The total number of arabs killed including soldiers over the last 63 yrs doesnt even come close to 100,000 let alone hundreds of thousands you lying idiot

      • Al Blue

        The 1.2 Palestinians outnumbered the Jews by 2 to 1. By 1949 the UN was feeding almost one million (949,000) of them. There were much more than 750,000 expelled.
        The Arabs never started the 1947-48 war, it was started by Zionist paramilitary
        forces expelling Arabs under Plan Dalet in late 1947 after the illegal UN Partition. The Arabs only intervened in May 1948 to stop the expulsions of their own. Soviet
        arms from the Czech satellite created Israel plus the Zionist forces outnumbered the Arabs by 3 to 1.
        Too many did see Jewish soldiers committing atrocities. See Expulsion Of The Palestinians by Nur Masalha, Israel and Palestine by Avi Shlaim and The Zionist Connection by Alfred M. Lilienthal, among two dozen documented books I could recommend. The Zionists themselves put bombs in Iraqi temples to scare Iraqi Jews out, see Zion In Babylon by Marion Wolfson. Similar tactics were used in Morocco and the Yemen, which is how 600,000 Arab Jews came to Palestine in the 50s.

        • Tziona

          Gosh you do like your conspircy theories don't you?

          And your Jewish anti-Semites… Shlomo Sand AND Avi Shlaim, wow, do you listen to Gilad Atzmon too? (Great sax player, shame about his lunacy.)

    • James

      Your statements are laughable and reveal your complete ignorance. I think you would feel more at home posting on Huffington Post.

      • Al Blue

        No specifics, Jimbo. Never read HuffPo but are its contributors as moronic as the ones here ?

    • eric

      Typical rantings by a liberal stooge. The sober statements of Roberts Spencer are misunderstood by the left, who are supine (look it up fool). The cries of the left are more extreme each day. They cannot tolerate a discussion of the merits of the right. I smells a rat. You are it Al.

      • Al Blue

        Typical ad hominem attack by a another stupid neocon. You "smells" ! Yes, I believe you do, Eric. I'm a Ron Paul-Ayn Rand-Murray Rothbard libertarian, NOT a leftist.

        • HoR_Emperor

          Ah, so you're an America-hating crackpot. Thanks for clearing that up.

        • Tziona

          Really, an Ayn Rand libertarian!? And you come here spouting this anti-Semitic pro-Jihad schtick? If your a libertarian, I'm a communist.

    • One World vs God

      You are more to be pitied than scorned.

      Just admit you are a sinner – thank Jesus for dying on your behalf.
      Receive God's free gift of salvation.

      Amen.

      • Al Blue

        Thank God I'm an atheist.

    • aspacia

      Talk abut projection. Are you looking in a mirror? When have any of those you accuse ever, ever called for mass murder? Never.

      Hum, you mention Israel in your diatribe. How many Jews did Muslims expel from their lands? 650,000. Tiny Israel absorbed her brethren without any demands nor compensations.

      The Muslim world will not do this because their only goal is to annihilate Israel and all Jews.

      It is you who are the intolerant racist. You forgot the Belgian, British, German colonists, Dutch colonists, Aztec massacring their neighbors, Sioux massacring their neighbors. The Huron and Mohawks massacring each other.

      You sure bought the liberal university bs hook, line and sinker.

  • greg wallace

    Thank you for putting the spotlight so succinctly on the NY Times, Mr. Horowitz. If any real journalists worked there they would be ashamed. .

    • Al Blue

      It would be true if there were any real journalists at FrontPage. Finally the Times got it right. Hooray !

      • Freddie Fernul

        Ditto!

  • Jim_C

    Spencer and Geller sure as heck ain't worth the ink spilled, but it's a bit absurd to blame them for this just because the killer shared all their politcal views.

    • zsqpwxxeh

      Subtle as usual, buddy. You're not fooling anyone.

    • Al Blue

      No, they have been preaching hate for years and the killer cited Spencer 64 times.
      They are guilty as hell.

    • froggy

      right !

    • aspacia

      Jim,

      I read Spencer, Geller, NY Times, Washington Post, Al Jazeera, etc., and have never read any calls for mass murder.

  • http://hecatr.livejournal.com/ Joseph Dooley

    Far from advancing his ideology, the mass murdering Norwegian set it back. Same as jihadists who murder in the name of God do not bring converts to God, but rather converts to atheism.

    I expect renewed calls for "civility," i.e., political correctness, from the European Left.

    • Al Blue

      How about if the deranged Racist Zionist Right just abstains from mass murder for a change ?

      • HoR_Emperor

        Well, there's a nice ad hominem, just like the ones you complained about so self-righteously in your other posts.

  • John

    NY times is just a piece of garbage financed by the petro-dollars for the muslim propaganda!!
    Robert Spencer is a hero, thank god for people like him, who share the values of freedom and liberty against the tyranny and the filth of Islam.. We the christians of the middle east know very much about what he talks about, people just choose not to listen to him or choose to categorize him as hatemonger or "islamophobe"

    • Al Blue

      John, can you translate your wordsalad into english ?

    • Paul Crave

      I thought it was News Corp, parent company of the venerable (LOL!!!) fox news that was financed by a Saudi Prince. In fact it is News Corp! Read about… Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia

  • LindaRivera

    Robert Spencer is a good, decent man. Spencer is a huge hero in risking his life to write and speak out about the dangers of Islam. Jihad is an obligation in the Koran for every Muslim. In some Muslim countries, severely persecuted non-Muslims live in daily fear. THERE IS NO ONE TO HELP THEM.

    Because brave Geert Wilders put his life on the line to warn about the dangers of Islam, he no longer lives a normal life. He requires bodyguards 24/7 and every night has to be taken to a different safe house.

    Islam and the Left seek to silence every person who warns; every person who tells of the terrible suffering endured by non-Muslims in Muslim countries and majority Muslim areas.

    To capitalize on the murders of innocent children, by assassinating the excellent character of hero Robert Spencer and other heroes who write and speak out is perverted, twisted and incredibly evil.

    • Al Blue

      Linda, I agree with you that Spencer is a despicable, deranged, lying, racist hatemonger who be charged in this crime that he provoked.
      Obviously, you know nothing about 99% of all Muslims or about Israeli State Terror.

      • Jhon of Indonesia

        Al Blue, say, you are a muslim right? I don't tkae no from you, you reek of Allah's stench!

    • Jules Bure

      Robert Spencer is a good, decent man

      **********************

      LOL… now that is hilarious. Now if you said that with a straight face, I just hope the CIA took note of it…and your name and i.p. address….

  • LindaRivera

    The filthy murderer is the spawn of hell. One of the devil's children.

    Please G-D, heal the wounded. Comfort the families who lost their loved ones.

    G-D commanded:

    YOU SHALL NOT MURDER. G-D – the Holy One, will punish all murderers on the Day of Judgment.

    Jesus, the Jew, taught in the synagogues and in the famous Jewish temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, Israel.

    G-D's requirement for ALL humanity is KINDNESS:

    Bible, Micah 6:8 And what does the L-RD require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your G-D.

    Jesus said in the Bible in Matthew 7:12 Treat people the same way you want them to treat you for this is the Law and the Prophets.

    Almighty G-D – Creator of the Universe – our HERO forever. G-D's forgiveness is astonishing. His love is amazing. G-D's kindness and mercy are beyond words to express.

    • Al Blue

      Linda, is it nice to talk about your Mother and Father and Fellow Jews in this ranting manner ?

      • Jhon

        Blue, muslim in disguise, how many hourises you got from Allah today? you might be filled with pride if I told you those hourises been used by Allah before he gave to you.

  • LindaRivera

    I hope all those who are assassinating the excellent character of Robert Spencer and other heroes are sued to the max.

    • WilliamJamesWard

      Law suit, this is what is necessary and the Times should be raked over the
      hottest coals available. I note that there is information coming out that this
      man is in no way connected with Christianity. The self evidedt fact is that
      a true Christian would never do what he did, he is a leftist slug, devoid of
      human conscience…………………………………William

    • Al Blue

      So sue me ! I dare you.

  • http://historyscoper.angelfire.com tlwinslow

    Anders Breivik's tactics may be damnable, but at least he woke up to the horrors Europe is sure to face if the policy of permitting mass Muslim immigration isn't reversed. If it's because of smart anti-jihadist or anti-Islam bloggers like Robert Spencer, more power to them, he sure couldn't get it from the lame PC media. So let's say that Westerners also differ about tactics, but they should unite around the common goal of preserving our civilization and values from the alien DNA of the Quran, and stop and reverse Muslim immigration before er, rivers of blood start to flow. Next to that battle to stop the Muslim inflow, all others are chicken spit. Right now the pro-Muslim left has to face the power of the Internet, making their control of the media non-decisive, and their plans to stifle free speech impotent.

    Fly with the Eagles by reading the Historyscoper's blog of blogs on Islam's
    war on us:
    http://tinyurl.com/islamwatch

    Keep up on current world Muslims of interest free:
    http://tinyurl.com/muslimscope

    • Al Blue

      A true Christian DID what he did. Your like the leftists trying to prove Oswald was really a rightist. Winnie, you are one pathetic old guy.

  • LindaRivera

    In 2008, two polls showed the vast majority of Arab Muslims support terror attacks.

    One Palestinian Authority poll showed that 84 percent of Palestinian Authority Muslims approved of the massacre at Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva in Jerusalem, where eight students were murdered and ten wounded.

    This is very, very terrible.

    Americans will never forget that some Muslims in America and Muslims around the world celebrated the murder of our 3,000 innocents.

    Americans will never forget that THOUSANDS of Palestinian Authority Muslims celebrated with great joy and delight the mass slaughter of our cherished 3,000. They danced in the streets, passed out sweets and fired into the air. They are inhuman.

    • Al Blue

      There were Israelis jumping up and down for joy in NYC right after 9-11 and it was so reported on Fox News. Take your anti-Arab racism and stuff it. Spencer can't sue because everything bad said about him is true.

      • SpiritOf1683

        And take yourself to Iran or Pakistan, parasitical Jew-hating Islamionazi bigot. And in your crazy-paved mind, the only thing Breivik did wrong was that he didn't kill Israeli Jewish kids instead.

        • Al Blue

          Spirit, may you choke on your anger as Nasser once said.

      • HoR_Emperor

        And now you reveal yourself to be a liar and an anti-Semite as well.

    • Al Blue

      Polls were bogus.

  • Meg

    Mr Spencer, Thanks for all you do….I admire you and to be dis respected by the libs should be seen as a compliment. They more toxic they get the better. Sooner or later they will implode.

    • Al Blue

      Meg, I agree that Spencer is a despicable hatemonger.

  • truthtellermathews

    It is very unfortunate to blame on a gentle man like Robert Spencer. As an Indian I experienced the act of extremism in our country on a daily basis and the entire world too know that. The liberals and their media houses trying to make an elephant out of a single cell creature. The most unfortunate aspect is that in such a gruesome act of bloodshed the liberals and their media houses are trying to politicizing the issue which is the most heinous act.

    • Al Blue

      Hitler was gentle too if Spencer is gentle………….what a dumbass thou art, Liar Matthew.

      • HoR_Emperor

        And what a nasty little cretin you are, Blue.

  • Larry Rosenthal

    Spencer's lunatic fantasies have finally spawned a mass butcher and Horowitz is shocked? These imbecils really think someone wasn't going to pick up a weapon after being fed these intense, psychotic lies about another group (Muslims) trying to take over the world, kill us all and infiltrate the government? You, Pam Geller and other neofascist scum now truly have blood on your hands, and any other terror attacks in this style will also be on your heads because of the filth you peddle to make money.

    • zsqpwxxeh

      Well, outside of that they're pretty much okay, though? After all, they can't be more culpable than Sarah Palin, can they? Blessings and peace be upon you, Larry Rosenthal.

      —From all the neofascist scum and imbecils (sic) here at FPM.

    • David

      Can you show us with ONE reference of Spencer and Pamela inciting violence against muslims? Or anyone at all?

      Until you can show us, go bark at another tree.

    • effemall

      You poor man. Were you born blind and brainless or did you lose them through a drug overdose?

    • Stephen_Brady

      Neofascist? Of course, since the killer in Norway posted on "Stormfront". What do you expect from "Stormfront", anyway?

      But Mr. Spencer has no blood on his hands.

      I do, though. As a sniper in Vietnam, Republic of, I earned my nickname of "Headhunter" …

    • Al Blue

      Right on, Larry, you have nailed these lunatics to a T.

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    Mr. Horowitz is correct except that he mis-characterized good Sen. McCarthy. (Alas, Sen. McCarthy had done not enough).

    And many thanks to Robert Spencer for his courageous and prominent educating work on existential danger of Islam.

    I do not quite understand why all this crowd of islamic apologists and "multi-culti" liberasts got so excited in their expose of "islamophobia" right now…

    1) Islamophobia is good. Islamohatia is even better. We need more of both.

    2) That Norwegian murderer in fact did not aim to murder any moslems (and perhaps murdered not one of them).

    3) The Norwegian murderer had vague "grievances" against the Norwegian government and its "multi-culti" role in ruining Norway. Well, the grievances were quite proper, yet the way of their resolution – criminal and damaging the cause, if there were one.

    4) It is not yet known whether the murderer had associates, and which kind.

    5) In case of Oklahoma bombing, McVey did have islamic (Iraqi) associates. It is just obvious that our islamic enemies within may look for "Christian looking accomplices" with some crazy grievances. For islam that would be much more productive to commit terror this way than to employ their own kind shouting Allah stinks or whatever…

  • Jean-Claude

    There is so much hatred in this forum. Most of what I read appears to be pure right-wing Zionist propaganda ideas that clearly want to harm and destroy people that do not support them. Somebody mentioned that Muslims were celebrating the 9/11. That's a complete false statement because there were many Muslims who were also killed in the 9/11. I think those that were caught celebrating and dancing were Israelis, remember?
    This is a very depressing forum that advocates hate and destruction instead of love and reconciliation amongst people of different ethnicity and faith. Why all this hate people?
    Particularly Linda Rivera? Why?

    • David

      Stop trolling, show us ONE advocation of "hate and destruction", go on

      I can shouw you HUNDREDS advocations of human rights and dignity, hows that?

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      Hey Jean-Claude,

      I am a pure right-winger and proud Zionist, a refugee from the former USSR. And "hate" IS one of my necessary family values: because unlike liberasts, I do have values, which happen to be the Judeo-Christian. And I do recognize the enemies of my values attempting to eliminate them in America – the last place for me to live.

      I am not sure about this entire forum, but I do advocate hate to the enemies of myself and of my country. And I will fight those enemies until I am dead.

      That is "Why".

      • Jean-Claude

        Alexander, I would'nt be proud if I were you. BTW, I think the intersection of the
        Judeo-Christian values is the empty set (if you recall from your preliminary math courses). Jews do not believe in Jesus as the messiah (fact) and actually they are the root cause of the crucifixion of Jesus. If you're a Jew then I would be very careful associating myself with "Christian Zionism". Armageddon, does this ring the bell?
        I'd better stop here because I offend anybody. I'd like to spread peace not hate. JC.

        • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

          "BTW, I think the intersection of the Judeo-Christian values is the empty set (if you recall from your preliminary math courses)."

          I am a mathematician (and even Esperantist). Yet the intersection you mentioned is not the empty set. What definitely belongs to the intersection is Zionism – the goal statement of both Judaism and Christianity.

          "Armageddon, does this ring the bell?"

          Indeed it does. So you want what? To change the God's plan? Or to sacrifice yourself and your country in order to postpone Armageddon?

          "I'd like to spread peace not hate."

          Really? How is it called to spread the peace during the time of existential war of your people?

          I do not know you, but suppose you are a French and your nation is France. And you spread pee-e-eace when Germans occupied France in 1940. Sounds good?

          As Elena Chudinova wrote, what you will have soon will be "The Mosque of Notre Dame de Paris"

        • Poltroon McSlacker

          But do bear in mind, M. Jean-Claude, the ancient and wise wisdom tradition that says that a person becomes what he or she attempts to distance himself/herself from.

          You say you wish to spread peace, not hate. In that you distance yourself from the hate that is part of your legacy as a human being. Go carefully here, and go carefully when vilifying or distancing from others for expressing, as Mr. Gofen did, the hatred of those who destroyed his people. For instance, you claim to be about spreading peace…but you lay a charge of Armageddon on Mr. Gofen. That aggression is no less so by being passive.

          The real issue is whether a person has the spiritual maturity to realize that not all feelings should be acted out. We are viewing a global demographic–particularly exploited by radical Islam–of nations consisting mostly of young people (28 and younger) who have not yet evolved that maturity. They are very much open to being led to act out their violent feelings.

          I cannot call Mr. Breivik a "christian" since in his own words he distanced himself from that. But I can honestly say that of all the Judaeo-Christian people I've known who admit to hating Islamism and radical Islamists, not one has ever done anything like this:
          http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.h

    • Al Blue

      Right on, Jean-Claude ! Hate is the biggest money maker for Spencer and our sad little Davey. Rivera is less than nothing.

      • Poltroon McSlacker

        And you, I see from your comments, are a fount of the purest love.

        Be careful what you rebel against. Soon you become it.

    • zsqpwxxeh

      I've spent plenty of time lurking on leftist sites, and the comments there are far more blood-curdling in their hatred than anything I have encountered here. I will grant you that some here do demonize Islam and Muslims overall, and I have spoken out against that error, but to characterize what is posted here as right-wing Zionist propaganda merely exposes you as a leftist. And you surely know what Horowitz has said about the "Unholy Alliance" of the Left and the Jihad.

      I would remind you, Jean-Claude, that we are at war with militant radical Islam, which comprises millions of devout Muslims who are ready, willing, and eager to kill as many of us as they can and destroy Israel and the West if possible. Horowitz, Spencer et al. do not advocate hatred and suppression of Islam; they advocate fighting back against a ruthless and ferociously aggressive enemy. If you're not just a salaried troll on assignment you should take the time to try to understand this.

    • Foolster41

      ". I think those that were caught celebrating and dancing were Israelis, remember?"
      No, I don't remember, because it's a lie.

      There is no hate here, and the fact you cannot back it up with proof shows your a liar.

    • Jhon of Indonesia

      "That's a complete false statement because there were many Muslims who were also killed in the 9/11….."

      Indonesia, J.W. Marriot Hotel bombed twice, Jakarta Stock Exchange, Bali, Australia embassy in Jakarta, a Police Mosque in Semarang, all of these places are destroyed by homegrown Jihadists, all of this places are of Indonesia, the world biggest muslims population country, and most of the victims are MUSLIMS, do you think the Jihadist care about Muslims victims? even many muslims in Indonesia do not care about those victims and support those Jihadists! and they even admire the bombers!.

      Mind-boggling isn't it? yet this is the truth, "too bad if you got bombed too my brother muslims, at least you die as a SAHID, you are now in Heaven with 72 Houris, how lucky of you", that is how they think of the muslim victims….

    • aspacia

      Jean,

      Many Egyptians, Palestinians and other Muslims were celebrating, passing out candy and dancing on 9/11. You missed the footage? Too bad.

  • effemall

    I have predicted in these very pages that the unrelenting push from the Muslims in the industrialized world will eventually bring a backlash that will be bloody and ugly and will affect many innocents. I didn't need Spencer to come to this conclusion. I didn't expect it to come as soon as it did – I figured on five to ten years from now. And a Scandinavian country was the last place on earth I would have expected. But here it is folks. I expected it to come from radicals in our midst or marginal types as this unfortunate fellow. The Times and the bleeding heart bourgeoisie of Europe and the Americas will continue to wear their blinders and wring their hands and point to people such as Spencer but there will be copycat incidents in the future and it will get uglier. I once watched airline officials make an octogenarian lady take off her shoes before being allowed to board and I said to the officials, "This is how a handful of radicals have brought America to its knees, with fear." The cost and inconvenience of airline security has been sickening. Now I read that mosques in London will be putting on more security. Whether they'll need it or not we'll soon learn but at least they are being put to the extra expense and inconvenience, too, because of a single, deranged young Norwegian and that has some value.

  • TK Heekin

    Score since 9/11:

    Jihadists: 17,400………….Anti-jihadists: 1

    Damn, must be soccer, another tie!

  • http://alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com/ alwaysonwatch

    The deeds of Breivik are the wedge to shut down any criticism of Islam.

    Will those deeds "take down" Robert Spencer? I don't think so.

    But we're kidding ourselves if we think that no damage has been done. I'm saying this with an ache in my heart.

    • Al Blue

      Spencer has been totally discredited. PERIOD.

      • HoR_Emperor

        Only in your pathetic hateful little self-referential universe, troll.

  • M. Westphal

    Just in German television ZDF-news they say:
    Robert Spencer (and other like him) the Oslo-killing is there fault.
    And much more of the German lefties also write this in much blogs.

    ITS SO STUPID !!!

  • Ghostwriter

    Let me say this. The man who commited those crimes in Norway is a lunatic. I don't support him. It's a shame that Norway doesn't have a death penalty because he would be an excellent candidate for it. In fact,he deserves the same fate as Tim McVeigh.

  • http://alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com/ alwaysonwatch

    Does this sound like a Christian fundamentalist?


    'm not going to pretend I'm a very religious person as that would be a lie. I've always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment.

    [...]

    I can't possibly imagine how my state of mind will be during the time of the operation, though. It will be during a steroid cycle and on top of that; during an ephedrine rush, which will increase my aggressiveness, physical performance and mental focus with at least 50-60% but possibly up to 100%. In addition, I will put my iPod on max volume as a tool to suppress fear if needed. I might just put Lux Aeterna by Clint Mansell on repeat as it is an incredibly powerful song.

    [...]

    If praying will act as an additional mental boost/soothing it is the pragmatical thing to do. I guess I will find out… If there is a God I will be allowed to enter heaven as all other martyrs for the Church in the past.

    I am pursuing religion for this very reason and everyone else should as well, providing it will give you a mental boost….

    Those words are supposed to be Breivik's.

    • Al Blue

      Yes, he is a Christian fundie.

      • defchump

        obvious troll is obvious. or maybe oblivious.

      • HoR_Emperor

        Clearly you have never, ever actually met a Christian fundamentalist.

  • LindaRivera

    The good, indigenous, peaceful people of Sweden are desperate, but the government turns a blind eye to their fear and suffering.

    Sweden is being destroyed. A low intensity civil war has already started. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QILt8mnZnMs&fe

    Out of time: Radical Islam Taking Over Europe & West http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocU5x_03MDM&fe

  • LindaRivera

    Will Europe ever protect the suffering indigenous European people? There is NO freedom when people live in fear.
    http://www.pi-news.org/2010/08/whoever-kills-a-po

    “Whoever Kills A Police Officer Enters Paradise”

    August 20, 2010

    This statement is on the wall in the Göteborg suburb Hisingen. It is not randomly painted there, rather it is part of a program. In this video, young Muslims say that the police “should not play Allah.” In their neighborhoods, state authority holds no way. Muslims are the ones who decide. The consequence: violence, vandalism, burning automobiles, attacks against police, firemen and paramedics.

    • Al Blue

      Those suffering Europeans brought terror and mass murder and slavery to most of the world. Cry me a river !

  • http://apollospaeks.blogtownhall.com/ ApolloSpeaks

    NO DOUBT THAT BREIVIK READS SPENCER AND GELLER

    No doubt bin Ladin read the Koran and Hadith. No doubt that Breivik’s world view is influenced by Spencer and Geller as is mine. But whereas bin Ladin was acting on the violent words, deeds, and predatory principles of the Prophet Spencer and Geller are civilized people (both religious humanists) with a peaceful liberal democratic outlook who’ve neither killed nor harmed anyone to advance their cause. To be sure some of Breivik’s thinking can be traced back to them, but not his murderous rage. The divide between them is so great you could drive Obama’s budget through it.

  • http://www.kengriffeyjrstore.com/ Ken Griffey Shoes

    NY times is just a piece of garbage financed by the petro-dollars for the muslim propaganda!!
    Robert Spencer is a hero, thank god for people like him, who share the values of freedom and liberty against the tyranny and the filth of Islam.. We the christians of the middle east know very much about what he talks about, people just choose not to listen to him or choose to categorize him as hatemonger or "islamophobe"

    I agree with you, john

  • WilliamJamesWard

    This murderer Anders should be studied like a new deadly virus as ever what
    moved him to kill that many young people in cold blood must be understood and
    eliminated from human existence. As this horror took place in Norway, what, he
    loses his library card for thirty days?……………This may be the lesson that
    Norway will use to get it's collective mind back and return to sanity…….William

    • nina

      "The murderer Anders should be studied like a new deadly virus." Really? He is the first mass murderer in world's history? We have studied them, and what have we learned? Not much. At least not how to prevent these occurances.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        This is a unique form of homicide and if one can get past the horror of it,
        it is a worthy of very deep inspection. Let it not pass your observation that
        he was raised in and extremely permissive society and I am unaware of
        mass murderers that have had his kind of life, it must be looked at as I
        think it will reveal the ability for murder due to (…………………) and
        what is in that space is in need of a description, one which is possibly new.
        I do not think he was insane………………………………..William

    • Foolster41

      Of course, this makes the assumption that there was some logical motivation. It may well be this man was insane, thus no ideology to be studied.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Many a madman can be completely logical in their thinking, it is the disconnect
        in the information they process with the actions that follow, in the gap is the
        unnamed, the dark evil inspiration……………………………………William

    • Stephen_Brady

      William, I just read that he will likely receive 100 days imprisonment per victim. One wonders if that will be consecutive or concurrent.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        If concurrent it would be evidence of a National aberration………..William

        • Foolster41

          That's a little over 2 years. It's still an aberration, and vast breach of justice. Why isn't this guy getting life at least, if not the chair?

          • WilliamJamesWard

            Lets see, 93 victims X 100 days each is 9,300 days, which if running
            consecutively is 25.48 years and if concurrent it is at 100 days
            per victim all at the same time as the sentences run together he
            would be out in a little over three months. Norway to my knowledge
            has no death penalty which I see as cheapening human life, so
            by my reasoning Norway if running his sentences concurrently
            would be a penalty in jail time of less than a drunk driving charge in
            most states, which is the real insanity………………..William

    • Poltroon McSlacker

      Mr. Ward, your assumption that Norway was sane in the first place I find somewhat troubling. On what do you base that? On their presentation of their national character as the most elite and protected of nations, so far much better than the rest of humanity?

      My experience of Norway was that it suffered from the sort of one-dimensional vision one gets after 50 years of looking down one's nose at others. How else could people be wailing that "Norway has lost its innocence"?

      INNOCENCE? Good god, we are ADULTS, and our kids can't afford us to be indulging a taste for fantasy and comfort of that sort! How is it innocent that a society will produce people who'd let a mass murderer run loose on an island of youngsters for AN HOUR AND A HALF, and no one apparently had the idea to fight back?

      If it's innocence that leads people to cower as slaughter of young people unfolds, or that leaves them unprotected in a world that has long been other than innocent, then good riddance to it.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Sorry Poltroon McSlacker I thought that by stating that "Norway……get it's
        collective mind back and return to sanity" would suffice to say they are
        out of their minds and not in a sane frame of mind in the first place. I
        always thought Norwegian Vikings were off in the head but that's a different
        time and circumstance. What is in the blood of these people only the
        Almighty knows but I assume they are directly decended from Adam and
        Eve, thus capable of making bad decisions……………………William

  • Asher

    Thanks to David, Jamie, Robert, Daniel, Jonathan Schanzer, Geller, Asaf R, and others who inform the public about Islam and their tactics. Of Course they will be attacked because they have exposed the real truth!

  • Kathleen

    Do these radicals who incorporate tactics used by Hitler and Mussolini really believe we are so naive as to be silenced when they call those who oppose radical Islam and the invasion of 30+ million illegal aliens by a derogatory term?

    I hail people such as Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Tom Tancredo, and the handful of others who have the courage and possess the morals and ethics to stand up and speak out against groups, people, and entities that, like Hitler, are out to destroy this country, its culture, and its sovereignty.

  • http://henach.blogspot.com Henach

    There is nothing in the writings of Spencer calling for violence. The New York Times is interested in shutting down the expression of opinions that don't agree with their own. Shame on them! Do they want laws against speaking the truth, so that only their lies will prevail?

  • Raymond in DC

    The Left and the Islamists are taking this opportunity to go full-bore against the counter-jihadists. They're not just going after Spencer. They're going after Phillips – quoted twice in the Manifesto, and her web site is mysteriously inaccessible; she had to defend herself via the Guardian! They're going after Gisele Littman (aka Bat Ye'or). And Bawer. And Wilders. I'm sure if Fallaci was still alive they'd be going after her too.

    Greenfield properly notes "the very real dangers of marginalizing a political opposition and a point of view to the extent that they have nowhere to go but underground." We see a related shift to the Right in Europe because many concerns (immigration, multi-culturalism, creeping sharia) are *not* being dealt with by mainstream parties.

  • trickyblain

    Read the op-ed and am failing to see how it does want all the raving here suggests it does. It's actually a good, sober piece. Maybe someone can provide a quote from the article that makes him/her so upset?

    Or is it wrong to mention our own Robert Spencer was cited 60-something times in a written confession detailing the plan for this this psychotic mass-murder?

    Not newsworthy at all? Really deserving of this shark-jumping pearl from DH?

    "The attack on Robert Spencer, a man of great courage and decency, is just one phase in the war against all those who speak out against Islamic terror and Islamic imperialism. The Times attack is but the latest and most repulsive salvo in this war."

    Yes, David, it's all about the NYT's quest for Islamic hegemony.

    • Foolster41

      "Yes, David, it's all about the NYT's quest for Islamic hegemony."
      No, It's about slandering people like Mr. Spencer by our dhimmi multi-culturalist left who can't stand to think that Islam might actually be bad.

      It is indeed wrong mention that he was cited if you're going to use that to make it out that Mr. Spencer is to blame. Mr. Spencer does NOT promote hatred. saying that a person or group should be held even partially responsible for an act they do not promote (and even condemn) is beyond ridiculous.

      You're being dishonest, and apparently you fully approve of NYT's slander.

      Also, using your own logic, there's no problem with mentioning when muslims cite the Koran when they preform violent acts, right?

      • trickyblain

        Where's the slander? Quote?

        And it would be libel, not slander, for published material. It means that on knowingly lies with the intention of discrediting. So, where's the lie?

        It's clear that Spencer is not to blame for another individual's lone actions. The article never says he is. It tells us only that he was cited many, many times as in Breivik's ideology. And Breivik states that his ideology was his motivation for the crime. Not religion, but a right-wing political ideology. He was insane, but them are the facts, so far as we can see at this point.

        "Also, using your own logic, there's no problem with mentioning when muslims cite the Koran when they preform violent acts, right?"

        Of course. Claiming the "MSM" wouldn't mention this? How do you think right-wing bloggers on a tight budget find out?

        • Foolster41

          "Of course. Claiming the "MSM" wouldn't mention this? How do you think right-wing bloggers on a tight budget find out?"
          This is rediclous for two reasons. For one thing, I never said it, although it is true, that the MSM doesn't generally link the Koran with Islamic terror and in fact go out of their way to not discuss the fact that the terrorists are indeed muslims, using stand-in terms like "an asian man" or "a man". Feel free to find recent articles and prove me wrong, I suspect at least 75% of the time or more there is no refrence to the motives of the attack.

        • Poltroon McSlacker

          blain, I don't think you're addressing the substance of these observations. Mr. Breivik cited other people as well in his writings (including the Unabomber), but no one in the mainstream media is writing columns claiming that Ted Kaczynski caused the man to slaughter innocents.

          I agree that there is much strong feeling on all sides, and I consider it inappropriate (and some of it outright propagandistic). Right now, all we really should be doing is mourning the dead, not using their deaths to score points for our side(s).

          At the same time, please don't overlook that many people have experienced severe consequences for even raising their concerns about the political system of Islamism that is posing as a religion to make inroads into/erosions of the West.

  • waterwillows

    I do not understand how a paper of no character or decent reputation thinks they are able to judge anyone.
    Mr. Spenser has done fine, truthful work in regards to getting the facts out. The NY Times must live in abject fear of the facts.

  • Angela Wosterman

    Well the good thing to come out of this is that the authorities will start monitoring sites like, if they aren't already, this for its extremist contributors and visitors. In light of the fact that the mass murder in Oslo was committed by a right wing extemist inspired by sites like this, I'm sure all of us would agree that some real oversight by our vast security establishment can only be a good thing for the safety of the country.

    • HoR_Emperor

      Your inner fascism is showing, Lefty.

  • Elliot

    Spencer is no more responsible for this particular murder spree than the Beatles were for Charles Manson, or Al Gore was for the Unabomber.Jeesh.

    The NYT,of Duranty infamy, eh ? Well,well,well-how soon we forget.

  • elliot

    And Jim_C :

    Say what ?

    Share all political views ?

    I would like to see you attempt proving evidence of that.

  • scythe

    Have no fear David. Because of websites like yours and the power of the internet, we are all beginning to understand the tactics of the left. While the NYT is fraudulently decrying the Oslo murders, they are revealing themselves to be the miscreants we all know they are. They are opposed to what? A killer murdering dozens? Why? HE WAS ONLY ACTING LIKE A MUSLIM THUG. What are they opposed to? The killings or the provenance of the killer? Some victims are more worthy than other, some killers more worthy of "understanding". What? No "root causes" argument? No "reaching out" to understand motive? You can go on and on with countless examples of the deceit, misdirection, and utter calumny of the NYT and others, but we are was BEYOND that now. We all know it. It really doesn't pay to repeat it over and over again. For we will waste our time and evergy in doing so. Really. They can be damned for all we care for what we should do is remain focused on the objective and be UNDETERRED. In spite of the usual attacks we continue to spread the word. Unafraid and unbowed. That would be a first for those on our side and would signal to them and others that they can no longer control the debate and silence us into submission. No matter what treachery they heap upon our heads. That would be a first for our side and their experience of it, a first for them. This is a game changer. I will not be silenced.

    • Julia Franklin

      wow! a lot of loopy extremists people here.

  • kafirman

    The NYSlimes is a girly rag written by metrosexuals who would devour the patriots and men.

    • Poltroon McSlacker

      Careful. Your vagina dentata complex is showing.

  • LindaRivera

    When I read about this tragedy I was stunned and deeply shocked that this monster attacked and murdered the children for a FULL NINETY MINUTES. How could such a length of time take place before the authorities arrived? This is a first world country with a modern police force and modern military. The nation's children were under attack. If the police were experiencing any kind of problem to carry out a rescue and stop the dreadful carnage, why were the military not called in immediately?

    Why were their neighbors, close European countries not contacted immediately asking for help?

    The world has a long tradition where in emergencies such as fire, floods and earthquakes, etc. other countries immediately send teams to help the country suffering an emergency.

    If I were the parents of the slain children, I would spend the rest of my life seeking an answer as to why this monster was able to murder the children for a FULL NINETY MINUTES.

    • Poltroon McSlacker

      Ms. Rivera, American expatriate writer in Oslo Bruce Bawer reported just a few weeks before this attack on how Norway has turned away from funding its police departments.
      http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/oslo-car-fires-highl

      What amazed me was that there were no adults present in the situation who were "ready for anything." Adults hosting young people should be. The fact that the adults considered the island a wonderful paradise where nothing bad could ever happen was not only an expression of the Norwegian mindset of superiority (bad stuff only happens to other people), but also an indication that adults have abrogated their responsibilities within that culture.

      Here in the US, the culture in many places demands that adults not wait for "the authorities to arrive."

      And remember, Mr. Breivik posed as a police officer for his spree. The adults and youth on the island waited for the authority to arrive, and there was no other narrative but hoping to be the one to escape.

  • Steeloak

    Looks like the Soros drones from Media Matters are out in force today. Judging by the sudden appearance of numerous trolls who have never been seen here before, the Soros minions must be getting paid to google the Norway nut & spam their comments wherever they can.

    • HoR_Emperor

      Yep, and the usual claim by the chief troll that he's really a "libertarian."

    • Poltroon McSlacker

      Nut and spam. Never tried that.

      Roasted macadamias, I'm thinking.

  • SAM000

    I'M MUSLIM.
    I'm IRANIAN
    I FIGHT the Criminal regime of the Mullahs from 1979.
    I'm in the red list of the MULLAHS.
    I'm in the TERROR LIST (FTO) of the USA STATE DEPARTMENT!
    The Mullahs REGIME and USA consider the IRANIAN RESISTANCE TERRORIST FROM 1997 till now.
    USA CONGRESS AND SENATE (Both parties) and USA JUSTICE do not agree with this tag against the legitimate RESISTANCE OF THE IRANIAN PEOPLE.
    My family is massacred by the MULLAHS.

    I'm for freedom speech.
    I'm for Robert SPENCER when he is restricted by the lefties and Mullahs supporters.

    REOBERT SPENCER or SALMAN RUSHDI or any body else should be free to write his opinion against ISLAM.

    I wrote these lines to show you my background, NOW READ MY STORY below AND ANSWER ME, please.

    IN IRAN, we receive the SMS (at least the tenth per day) on our mobile phones insulting ALLAH, MOHAMMAD, ISLAM, and all the sacred saint personages of the religions.

    From 2 years ago, Iranian TELECOM COMPANY and PTT MINISTRY were confiscated by the PASSDARANS CORP.
    All the Internet and mobile services suppliers belongs to the Passdars and Mullahs.

    This year, we have at least 200 executions because of the Mobile tracking by the regime.
    any SMS about the resistance, or any word against the REGIME in the communication system is tracked, the person who had sent the SMS and the one who had received it are arrested and condemned to death and executed and announced by the regime's media.
    The charges against the condemned victims is MOHAREB-ALLAH (which means, the one who had fought against GOD).

    BUT, NOBODY is arrested for the SMS's insulting ALLAH and His Prophet Mohammad and his book, KORAN!!!

    CAN YOU ANSWER ME WHY?

    • aspacia

      Are you sure? Many Iranian executions are done in the name of Islam and Sharia Law. Perhaps, the government is unable to track these messages because they are scrambled.

  • http://henach.blogspot.com henach

    A statement should be judged by whether it is true or not. Being quoted by a lunatic does not make a statement false. To the post-modern New York Times there is no longer any concept of truth.

  • Al Blue

    There's an old legal saying, Asked and Answered. It comes up when some shyster attorney keeps bringing up the same refuted points over and over.
    This now applies here. You all have been answered and refuted several times and with at least four reference sources. That's it because my time is too valuable to be taken up by the willfully blind and the incurably insane.
    I can't stand Obama but with the kind of mindless nutjob opposition represented here he's a lock for reelection in 2012. Go to reputable rightwing sources like LewRockwell.com and Antiwar.com.
    David Horowitz and Robert Spencer make the revisionists at IHR look like Aristotles.
    David wrote one decent book, The Free World Colossus, in 1965, a popularization of D.F. Fleming's massive two volume work on the cold war. Fleming was both a Soviet
    AND Israeli apologist at the same time. David like so many of our loinsmen went from being a Soviet to an Israeli apologist. A traitor, be it the Rosenbergs or the Pollards, are still traitors and no blathering stink from Alan Dirtbagowitz's behind can erase that fact.
    I'd wish you all a happy life but I see you have other plans and our Davey is laughing all the way to the bank.

    • aspacia

      I gather from your rant that Horowitz is a communist traitor?

  • http://henach.blogspot.com Henach

    The New York Times has produced a new concept: guilt by involuntary association. If somebody quotes you, that is an involuntary association, because you have no control over it. You are not asking for that association.
    If somebody else commits a crime and quotes the New York Times, will the NYT then admit its "guilt"? Don't bet on it. It is reserved by them for those whose true statements they want to suppress by means of intimidation.

    • Foolster41

      Hardly new, the New York traitor has smeared conservatives like McCarthy for speaking out against communists.

  • Poltroon McSlacker

    I am a left right conservative liberal American deeply concerned about left AND right blindness on the global demographics issue–including jihadist Islam's record and promises. I read Jihad Watch twice a month, often with nausea over the more crass and reactionary voices there, but frequently having learned something where the arguments or citations are clear and factual. These are not facts I can get from the more globalizer/left media.

    I do not think I like Mr. Spencer very much, for his rhetorical slipperiness in Rooster Mode frequently puts me off, and he sometimes shows a deeply disturbing mean streak. However, of all the writers at JW, I dislike his commentary the least. It tends to be clear and often dryly humorous, as well as often surprisingly kind hearted as regards his mortal enemies.

    I sense there is much substance in many of Mr. Spencer's observations. Yet his rhetorical stance frequently leads him to the edge of sounding provocative for the sake of provocation. My sense is that all the individuals who can be motivated by provocation on this topic, have been, and it's well past time the argument gets extended through other strategies. My concern is that I don't see that happening, and it is contributing (perhaps deliberately) to the polarizing of opinion on the topic. (Which is why I read Bruce Bawer at PJM. He makes that effort.)

    At the same time I respect Mr. Spencer for holding an unpopular position and championing it with strength, while marshaling what he considers to be the important facts of his case. Still, I yearn for him to act more fatherly and less priestly, and to model a more rational, toned-down rhetoric. Otherwise it leaves the impression that at bottom he cares less about the threats of radical Islam than about scoring points against liberals, or pumping up support for this or that candidate or cause. Really, if radical Islam is a concern only because conservative Catholics are using it to whip up emotions and bond and defeat abortion rights, or Republicans are using it to whip up emotions and bond and get this or that guy/gal elected, then it's not really that important on its own, is it?

    But it is, and we are well past the point where provocation should be used. We need a much more moderate and inclusive discussion of these matters. In my view, religious and political hysteria is the problem, since it's becoming increasingly obvious that people born since 1980 are incapable of distinguishing between violent feeling and violent action.

    Having said all that, I have been staggered by the mainstream media's framing of the Oslo assassination, and particularly the rush to vilify all those who have expressed (unpopular and dangerous) concerns about Islam's political philosophy. The exploitation of this event as a way to further political philosophies on right OR left in my view is despicable, whether or not I tend to agree with the source in question on other things.

    BTW, the prolix and animated Mr. Al Blue appears to be a wholly owned subsidiary of some PR group or other. Nobody I know among lefty salonistes has nearly that much time and energy to troll the pages of Front Page Magazine. My guess is that he's paid by the Olin Foundation to impersonate a rabid leftist. Seriously, if we wanted to get to the bottom of global jihad, why aren't we examining the books of the banks that launder all the money?

  • aspacia

    The media bends over backwards to avoid the word Muslim in connection with terrorism, but screams the word Christian when connected with terrorism. Such bias is not journalism.

  • Trinidad Tobego

    I always assume sites like this are honeypots set up for luring folks like the other commenters who are posting here, tracking their IP addresses and keeping tabs on them. In that case: good job FBI! You seem to have assembled some very interesting right-wing "intelligentsia" here, although I doubt many of them could light a book of matches without singeing their eyebrows, let alone assemble a bomb! ;-)

    • Foolster41

      Let me get this straight: the FBI built a conservative site for the purpose of monitoring those same dangerous conservatives by using well reasoned conservative articles (that don't promote hate)?
      Are you saying David Horowitz is then, complacent with this? otherwise, it wouldn't be a "honey pot set up to lure" anything.

      And I thought 9/11 truthers were insane!

  • MrMoro1

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  • Deendid

    This statement is on the wall in the Göteborg suburb Hisingen. It is not randomly painted there, rather it is part of a program. In this video, young Muslims say that the police should not play Allah. In their neighborhoods, state authority holds no way. Muslims are the ones who decide. The consequence: violence, vandalism, burning automobiles, attacks against police, firemen and paramedics. Igrice Games | Bali apartments

  • zsqpwxxeh

    Doubtless you are a Seeker of Truth with an Open Mind, and not a fierce Chomsky partisan. Right? You're just outraged by an outrageous smear that cannot possible be true, correct?

    I didn't think so.

  • David
  • Al Blue

    The crazed rightist racists here do not believe in evidence.

  • Ghostwriter

    Mr. Blue,did you forget what happened in Bali,London,Ft. Hood,and a bunch of other places? Maybe when you can show me one instance where anyone in the Muslim world condemned those acts or other terrorist attacks against Americans that have gone back decades. I've never once seen any Muslim go on television anywhere in the world and apologize to America for the murders of Americans.

  • Tziona

    Bumb know-nothing, 17,400:1 ratio is the number of attacks not a body-count. Even if it were true that Israel has killed 20 Muslims for every 1 Israeli killed since 1948 (since Israel was created), if you factor in all the attacks by Muslims against Jews over the last 1400 years (since Islam was invented) across the Muslim world, the ratio shoots 1:100,000 the other way. Or do you count 1948 as a reset switch?

  • Tziona

    Oh, and another thing Blue, Bleivik's body-count was 76 not "over 100" victims (of course, that's no comfort to the bereaved), but hey, why let a little truth get in the way when you're having so much fun with lies?

  • HoR_Emperor

    Again proving you are an America-hating crackpot and an anti-Semite.

  • HoR_Emperor

    Ad hominem again. Why, one might think you were a hypocrite!