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		<title>By: gardnerlee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chinese Fashion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 03:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most Chinese wedding dresses may also be embroidered with golden decorations, and it&#039;s important to note that not just each and every tailor can function with golden &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swanmarks.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Artka&lt;/a&gt; fabric.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Chinese wedding dresses may also be embroidered with golden decorations, and it&#039;s important to note that not just each and every tailor can function with golden <a href="http://www.swanmarks.com/" rel="nofollow">Artka</a> fabric.  </p>
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		<title>By: Temizlik</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I pray to God that people are listening...Thank You David! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.temizlikportali.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Temizlik&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pray to God that people are listening&#8230;Thank You David! <a href="http://www.temizlikportali.com" rel="nofollow">Temizlik</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Auto Diagnostic Tool</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Divine inspiration never came to me, while I was under the blanket of any woman among you except Her ]]></description>
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		<title>By: windows7 key</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Microsoft Windows came to dominate the world&#039;s personal computer market, overtaking Mac OS, which had been introduced in 1984. As of August 2011, Windows has approximately 82.58% of the market share of the client operating systems according to Usage share of operating systems. 
The most recent client version of Windows is Windows 7; the most recent server version is Windows Server 2008 R2; the most recent mobile version is Windows Phone 7. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft Windows came to dominate the world&#039;s personal computer market, overtaking Mac OS, which had been introduced in 1984. As of August 2011, Windows has approximately 82.58% of the market share of the client operating systems according to Usage share of operating systems.<br />
The most recent client version of Windows is Windows 7; the most recent server version is Windows Server 2008 R2; the most recent mobile version is Windows Phone 7. </p>
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		<title>By: Wedding Speech Father of the Bride</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 08:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great goods from you, man. I have take note your stuff previous to and you&#039;re just extremely excellent. I really like what you&#039;ve got here, certainly like what you&#039;re saying and the way in which in which you are saying it. You make it entertaining and you continue to care for to stay it sensible. I can&#039;t wait to read much more from you. That is really a wonderful web site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great goods from you, man. I have take note your stuff previous to and you&#8217;re just extremely excellent. I really like what you&#8217;ve got here, certainly like what you&#8217;re saying and the way in which in which you are saying it. You make it entertaining and you continue to care for to stay it sensible. I can&#8217;t wait to read much more from you. That is really a wonderful web site.</p>
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		<title>By: vpk</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Muslim&quot; nations have it worse. People have no rights and dare not speak. People are running away from my nation of Iran. We lost 10% of the population to people running away from Islam. Most Muslims do not practice the violence and are victims of it. I hope to one day live to see Islam gone from Iran. It was forced on us by Arabs 1400 years ago. It has been hell since then. Too bad the &quot;Liberal&quot; in the West do not realize the danger. We have to educate people on the danger of Islam. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Muslim&quot; nations have it worse. People have no rights and dare not speak. People are running away from my nation of Iran. We lost 10% of the population to people running away from Islam. Most Muslims do not practice the violence and are victims of it. I hope to one day live to see Islam gone from Iran. It was forced on us by Arabs 1400 years ago. It has been hell since then. Too bad the &quot;Liberal&quot; in the West do not realize the danger. We have to educate people on the danger of Islam. </p>
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		<title>By: fmobler</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 02:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three things:[1] I have responded now several times with very concrete examples. I don&#039;t know what else you expect.[2] You have repeatedly resorted to ad hominem arguments. [You did it again in other other recent response]. I am under no obligation to validate that by answering your &quot;Is that right?&quot; nonsense. It isn&#039;t a complaint about your &quot;rhetorical forays&quot; [sic] to point out that I do not appreciate being colored with your unfounded biases. By the way, you might want to look up the word &quot;foray.&quot;[3] You asked for examples of liberals infringing rights. I gave you several. You stuck to one.[4] You plead in your other response: &#039;by all means, please elaborate and tell me what these &quot;different obligations&quot; are &#039; This is where I realize that you are wasting my time and yours. Read for yourself. But I will give you a hint. The   Supreme Court has held in several cases that private owners of property (places like shopping malls) can severely limit political speech on their property in ways the government can&#039;t. That&#039;s why you won&#039;t ever see a political rally at a shopping mall, but you will see them in front of a city hall.Don&#039;t expect further responses from me. I have been assuming that you are a well-intended and reasonably educated citizen. Since you continue to try to bait me, the former is no longer an option. Since you are ignorant of really fundamental facts about the Bill of Rights. the second is out too. Good luck.--- ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three things:[1] I have responded now several times with very concrete examples. I don&#39;t know what else you expect.[2] You have repeatedly resorted to ad hominem arguments. [You did it again in other other recent response]. I am under no obligation to validate that by answering your &#8220;Is that right?&#8221; nonsense. It isn&#39;t a complaint about your &#8220;rhetorical forays&#8221; [sic] to point out that I do not appreciate being colored with your unfounded biases. By the way, you might want to look up the word &#8220;foray.&#8221;[3] You asked for examples of liberals infringing rights. I gave you several. You stuck to one.[4] You plead in your other response: &#39;by all means, please elaborate and tell me what these &#8220;different obligations&#8221; are &#39; This is where I realize that you are wasting my time and yours. Read for yourself. But I will give you a hint. The   Supreme Court has held in several cases that private owners of property (places like shopping malls) can severely limit political speech on their property in ways the government can&#39;t. That&#39;s why you won&#39;t ever see a political rally at a shopping mall, but you will see them in front of a city hall.Don&#39;t expect further responses from me. I have been assuming that you are a well-intended and reasonably educated citizen. Since you continue to try to bait me, the former is no longer an option. Since you are ignorant of really fundamental facts about the Bill of Rights. the second is out too. Good luck.&#8212; </p>
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		<title>By: thomas paine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas paine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Try looking up the funding of the public university you went to. That might be hard for you to do, but give it a try.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
not hard. it seems that the percentage of funding provided from tuition at state universities in my state is now at about 20%. what&#039;s your point?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Try looking up the funding of the public university you went to. That might be hard for you to do, but give it a try.</i> </p>
<p>not hard. it seems that the percentage of funding provided from tuition at state universities in my state is now at about 20%. what&#39;s your point?  </p>
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		<title>By: thomas paine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas paine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 05:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ now, my main answer is that i think that freedom of speech does not mean that public institutions are not allowed to make rules. the only example of restrictions of freedom of speech that you seem willing to discuss involve restrictions on displaying pictures of aborted fetuses on campuses. at least, this is the only example you have ponied up. so, i fail to see why you object to me discussing it. please excuse me if it seems to me that you spend more time objecting to my questions than answering them 
 
however, you do say: 
 
&lt;i&gt;every serious political thinker I know of does think that public institutions have different obligations to free speech than do private ones&lt;/i&gt; 
 
aha! an actual response. however, this is rather vague since you don&#039;t go any farther. by all means, please elaborate and tell me what these &quot;different obligations&quot; are ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> now, my main answer is that i think that freedom of speech does not mean that public institutions are not allowed to make rules. the only example of restrictions of freedom of speech that you seem willing to discuss involve restrictions on displaying pictures of aborted fetuses on campuses. at least, this is the only example you have ponied up. so, i fail to see why you object to me discussing it. please excuse me if it seems to me that you spend more time objecting to my questions than answering them </p>
<p>however, you do say: </p>
<p><i>every serious political thinker I know of does think that public institutions have different obligations to free speech than do private ones</i> </p>
<p>aha! an actual response. however, this is rather vague since you don&#39;t go any farther. by all means, please elaborate and tell me what these &quot;different obligations&quot; are </p>
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		<title>By: thomas paine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas paine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 05:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[look, mr mobler, i am attempting to figure out what your point is. when i made guesses about your point of view, i asked &quot;am i correct?&quot; 
 
if you want to continue discussing whether or not &quot;liberals&quot; are restricting your freedom of speech, please quit complaining about my rhetorical forays and please focus on some issues and answer questions.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look, mr mobler, i am attempting to figure out what your point is. when i made guesses about your point of view, i asked &quot;am i correct?&quot; </p>
<p>if you want to continue discussing whether or not &quot;liberals&quot; are restricting your freedom of speech, please quit complaining about my rhetorical forays and please focus on some issues and answer questions&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: fmobler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fmobler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You wrote:try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn,   and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what   happens, OK?    No need. There is a &quot;speakers&#039; corner&quot; at UCLA where this goes on all the time. Pretty much weekly during the Bush years someone would indeed stand there are pepper his speech with the F word. No one stopped it. Actually, speakers do not need a bullhorn because the university has installed a PA system there.Maybe its the standing on a chair part you are worried about. Probably OSHA would stop me.--- ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote:try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn,   and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what   happens, OK?    No need. There is a &#8220;speakers&#39; corner&#8221; at UCLA where this goes on all the time. Pretty much weekly during the Bush years someone would indeed stand there are pepper his speech with the F word. No one stopped it. Actually, speakers do not need a bullhorn because the university has installed a PA system there.Maybe its the standing on a chair part you are worried about. Probably OSHA would stop me.&#8212; </p>
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		<title>By: fmobler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fmobler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You wrote:try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn,   and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what   happens, OK?    No need. There is a &quot;speakers&#039; corner&quot; at UCLA where this goes on all the time. Pretty much weekly during the Bush years someone would indeed stand there are pepper his speech with the F word. No one stopped it. Actually, speakers do not need a bullhorn because the university has installed a PA system there.Maybe its the standing on a chair part you are worried about. Probably OSHA would stop me.--- ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote:try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn,   and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what   happens, OK?    No need. There is a &#8220;speakers&#39; corner&#8221; at UCLA where this goes on all the time. Pretty much weekly during the Bush years someone would indeed stand there are pepper his speech with the F word. No one stopped it. Actually, speakers do not need a bullhorn because the university has installed a PA system there.Maybe its the standing on a chair part you are worried about. Probably OSHA would stop me.&#8212; </p>
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		<title>By: fmobler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fmobler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where do you get these things? anyway, the only thing you seem interested in is the right to display   pictures of aborted fetuses, on college campuses, anytime you want. and   restricting college students from using the F word in private   conversations, and teachers from talking as they please in their   classrooms And:now, i seem to detect from your language that you would defend to the   death the right of any PRIVATE institution to regulate speech on its   premises in any manner it sees fit.That&#039;s some pretty good detective skills you&#039;ve got there.l&#039;ll try to play the game the way you are playing it, by ad hominem attacks, non sequitur arguments and topic switching. Here goes.It is a shame your publicly subsidized education did not include basics of critical thinking. The only thing you seem interested in is doing is stopping me from doing stuff I don&#039;t plan on doing. Also, I detect from your writing that you hate kittens. When will you stop hating kittens?Nevermind. You win. I can&#039;t keep up with your rhetorical skills.Try looking up the funding of the public university you went to. That might be hard for you to do, but give it a try. You will discover that the money you paid was a small fraction of the cost. State universities are very expensive places to keep running. Students play a very small portion of the total cost.By the way, every serious   political thinker I know of does think that public institutions have different obligations to free speech than do private ones. Maybe you missed that day in your tax payer subsidized GE Poli Sci course.--- ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you get these things? anyway, the only thing you seem interested in is the right to display   pictures of aborted fetuses, on college campuses, anytime you want. and   restricting college students from using the F word in private   conversations, and teachers from talking as they please in their   classrooms And:now, i seem to detect from your language that you would defend to the   death the right of any PRIVATE institution to regulate speech on its   premises in any manner it sees fit.That&#39;s some pretty good detective skills you&#39;ve got there.l&#39;ll try to play the game the way you are playing it, by ad hominem attacks, non sequitur arguments and topic switching. Here goes.It is a shame your publicly subsidized education did not include basics of critical thinking. The only thing you seem interested in is doing is stopping me from doing stuff I don&#39;t plan on doing. Also, I detect from your writing that you hate kittens. When will you stop hating kittens?Nevermind. You win. I can&#39;t keep up with your rhetorical skills.Try looking up the funding of the public university you went to. That might be hard for you to do, but give it a try. You will discover that the money you paid was a small fraction of the cost. State universities are very expensive places to keep running. Students play a very small portion of the total cost.By the way, every serious   political thinker I know of does think that public institutions have different obligations to free speech than do private ones. Maybe you missed that day in your tax payer subsidized GE Poli Sci course.&#8212; </p>
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		<title>By: thomas paine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas paine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[let me emphasize the main point: just because a university is public, that doesn&#039;t mean that it has no right to regulate what happens on its campus. freedom of speech, important political speech, doesn&#039;t mean that you have the right to say anything you want, anytime, anywhere - it means that you have the right to state your mind in a public venue without fear of arrest or reprisal 
 
secondly, the first response to my post was a long list of rights that &quot;liberals&#039; are supposedly repressing, yet you a focussed like a laser on wanting to be able to display pictures of aborted fetuses at any time and place you desire 
 
this can hardly be the wholesale repression that the first respondent had in mind 
 
since nobody has seen fit to substantiate the claims of that first response, it remains unproven ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let me emphasize the main point: just because a university is public, that doesn&#39;t mean that it has no right to regulate what happens on its campus. freedom of speech, important political speech, doesn&#39;t mean that you have the right to say anything you want, anytime, anywhere &#8211; it means that you have the right to state your mind in a public venue without fear of arrest or reprisal </p>
<p>secondly, the first response to my post was a long list of rights that &quot;liberals&#39; are supposedly repressing, yet you a focussed like a laser on wanting to be able to display pictures of aborted fetuses at any time and place you desire </p>
<p>this can hardly be the wholesale repression that the first respondent had in mind </p>
<p>since nobody has seen fit to substantiate the claims of that first response, it remains unproven </p>
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		<title>By: thomas paine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas paine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Fact is, you are certainly allowed to use any language you want (unless it is sanctioned by a university speech code) on any college campus&lt;/i&gt; 
 
try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn, and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what happens, OK? 
 
you don&#039;t seem to understand the difference between public and private conversations ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fact is, you are certainly allowed to use any language you want (unless it is sanctioned by a university speech code) on any college campus</i> </p>
<p>try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn, and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what happens, OK? </p>
<p>you don&#39;t seem to understand the difference between public and private conversations </p>
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		<title>By: thomas paine</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Fact is, you are certainly allowed to use any language you want (unless it is sanctioned by a university speech code) on any college campus&lt;/i&gt; 
 
try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn, and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what happens, OK? 
 
you don&#039;t seem to understand the difference between public and private conversations ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fact is, you are certainly allowed to use any language you want (unless it is sanctioned by a university speech code) on any college campus</i> </p>
<p>try standing on a chair in the middle of campus, pulling out a bullhorn, and making a speech using the F word repeatedly and tell me what happens, OK? </p>
<p>you don&#39;t seem to understand the difference between public and private conversations </p>
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		<title>By: thomas paine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas paine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Also, your little switcheroo of talking about &quot;teenagers&quot; at university and parading on private property (in front of a Safeway). University students are not children, public universities are not supermarkets. &lt;/i&gt; 
 
no, i am talking about parading on a PUBLIC sidewalk in front of safeway 
 
anyway, the only thing you seem interested in is the right to display pictures of aborted fetuses, on college campuses, anytime you want. and restricting college students from using the F word in private conversations, and teachers from talking as they please in their classrooms 
 
now, i seem to detect from your language that you would defend to the death the right of any PRIVATE institution to regulate speech on its premises in any manner it sees fit. am i correct? but, because a public university is partially publicly funded (the &quot;public&quot; university i went to was supplemented with state funds but somehow i had to pay tuition out of my own pocket as well) - because it&#039;s a public university you feel that it has no right to regulate speech on its premises in any way 
 
is that correct? 
 
if that is what you think, that&#039;s why i suggest that you review norms of public speech in american society 
 
once again, i don&#039;t believe that safeway would allow me to march up and down on the PUBLIC sidewalk in front of one of their stores every day with a picture of a freshly aborted fetus 
 
i think they would call the police and i would find myself in the station pdq getting lectured 
 
try it yourself and see if i am right ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, your little switcheroo of talking about &quot;teenagers&quot; at university and parading on private property (in front of a Safeway). University students are not children, public universities are not supermarkets. </i> </p>
<p>no, i am talking about parading on a PUBLIC sidewalk in front of safeway </p>
<p>anyway, the only thing you seem interested in is the right to display pictures of aborted fetuses, on college campuses, anytime you want. and restricting college students from using the F word in private conversations, and teachers from talking as they please in their classrooms </p>
<p>now, i seem to detect from your language that you would defend to the death the right of any PRIVATE institution to regulate speech on its premises in any manner it sees fit. am i correct? but, because a public university is partially publicly funded (the &quot;public&quot; university i went to was supplemented with state funds but somehow i had to pay tuition out of my own pocket as well) &#8211; because it&#39;s a public university you feel that it has no right to regulate speech on its premises in any way </p>
<p>is that correct? </p>
<p>if that is what you think, that&#39;s why i suggest that you review norms of public speech in american society </p>
<p>once again, i don&#39;t believe that safeway would allow me to march up and down on the PUBLIC sidewalk in front of one of their stores every day with a picture of a freshly aborted fetus </p>
<p>i think they would call the police and i would find myself in the station pdq getting lectured </p>
<p>try it yourself and see if i am right </p>
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		<title>By: fmobler</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s try again. You need visit a campus. No one stops anyone from swearing. I know faculty who use the f-word in class. Every year, our campus has a well-meaning display of tee shirts with inscriptions painted on by victims, mostly of sexual violence and harassment. I personally don&#039;t get it, but that&#039;s fine. My point is that every year since this started, one or two of the shirts will say something like &quot;f you for what you did to me&quot; (spelled out fully). This is not merely shouted in the moment. It is written and displayed in a prominent place on campus with the help and encouragement of our administration. Again, I don&#039;t get it, but I don&#039;t need to understand everyone else&#039;s choice of speech to think their rights are worth defending.Fact is, you are certainly allowed to use any language you want (unless it is sanctioned by a university speech   code) on any college campus. No one will stop you. Plenty of people will stop wanting to hang out with you. But that&#039;s your problem.--- ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#39;s try again. You need visit a campus. No one stops anyone from swearing. I know faculty who use the f-word in class. Every year, our campus has a well-meaning display of tee shirts with inscriptions painted on by victims, mostly of sexual violence and harassment. I personally don&#39;t get it, but that&#39;s fine. My point is that every year since this started, one or two of the shirts will say something like &#8220;f you for what you did to me&#8221; (spelled out fully). This is not merely shouted in the moment. It is written and displayed in a prominent place on campus with the help and encouragement of our administration. Again, I don&#39;t get it, but I don&#39;t need to understand everyone else&#39;s choice of speech to think their rights are worth defending.Fact is, you are certainly allowed to use any language you want (unless it is sanctioned by a university speech   code) on any college campus. No one will stop you. Plenty of people will stop wanting to hang out with you. But that&#39;s your problem.&#8212; </p>
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		<title>By: fmobler</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your habit of personalizing this is not exactly helpful. But since you seem intent on insinuating something about me, let me put that to rest. No. I have not felt any wish to display pictures of aborted children on a college campus (the one I work at for example).Nor as your earlier post suggested have I felt frustrated on not being able to us the n-word (though I have read Huck Finn --- out loud -- to my daughters -- shame on me).Also, your little switcheroo of talking about &quot;teenagers&quot; at university and parading on private property (in front of a Safeway). University students are not children, public universities are not supermarkets. As for your example of the terrible injuries of the Iraq war, I am glad you brought that up. At my university and at many others around the country and in Europe, photos of Iraqi wounded *were* displayed on   the campus. They were horrifying and made me and, I hope, anyone with any compassion terribly uncomfortable. That was a good thing. Making me confront the morality of my government&#039;s decisions is vital. Anyway, regardless of my personal view of the Iraq war (opposition to it, if you care to stop painting me a certain way), the students (and some of my fellow faculty) who put those pictures up were exercising their free speech in an appropriate way -- not harming anyone, not shouting cliches in a crowded theater, and all that.Pictures of aborted fetuses are a different story. They are not permitted to stay displayed on my campus (or at least, somone comes along and takes them down quickly on the couple of occasions I can recall).It seems pretty clear that you don&#039;t spend a lot of time on university campuses these days: You say &quot;a university is a place where students are supposed to be concentrating   on their education.&quot; Yikes. What in the world do you mean by that that should protect the little darlings from confronting issues that might make them a bit uncomfortable. This goes on all the time -- as it should in a public square. But currently, the permitted speech is one sided, hence not free.You claim to understand how this society works, but you show little evidence of that. In my town (a pretty conservative one), the main public square regularly had loud and infamatory anti-Bush protests (Bush as Hitler, photos of bomb victims, etc.) for much of the Bush years. I am sure some of the local merchants weren&#039;t happy. But the police did not stop anyone as long as they stayed on the public square. That is how our society works. You have a right to try to make me uncomfortable, especially for a political reason.Finally, in the future, please try a little harder not to confuse someone&#039;s defense of free speech with your fevered imaginings   that we must harbor dirty secret desires to say something offensive.--- ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your habit of personalizing this is not exactly helpful. But since you seem intent on insinuating something about me, let me put that to rest. No. I have not felt any wish to display pictures of aborted children on a college campus (the one I work at for example).Nor as your earlier post suggested have I felt frustrated on not being able to us the n-word (though I have read Huck Finn &#8212; out loud &#8212; to my daughters &#8212; shame on me).Also, your little switcheroo of talking about &#8220;teenagers&#8221; at university and parading on private property (in front of a Safeway). University students are not children, public universities are not supermarkets. As for your example of the terrible injuries of the Iraq war, I am glad you brought that up. At my university and at many others around the country and in Europe, photos of Iraqi wounded *were* displayed on   the campus. They were horrifying and made me and, I hope, anyone with any compassion terribly uncomfortable. That was a good thing. Making me confront the morality of my government&#39;s decisions is vital. Anyway, regardless of my personal view of the Iraq war (opposition to it, if you care to stop painting me a certain way), the students (and some of my fellow faculty) who put those pictures up were exercising their free speech in an appropriate way &#8212; not harming anyone, not shouting cliches in a crowded theater, and all that.Pictures of aborted fetuses are a different story. They are not permitted to stay displayed on my campus (or at least, somone comes along and takes them down quickly on the couple of occasions I can recall).It seems pretty clear that you don&#39;t spend a lot of time on university campuses these days: You say &#8220;a university is a place where students are supposed to be concentrating   on their education.&#8221; Yikes. What in the world do you mean by that that should protect the little darlings from confronting issues that might make them a bit uncomfortable. This goes on all the time &#8212; as it should in a public square. But currently, the permitted speech is one sided, hence not free.You claim to understand how this society works, but you show little evidence of that. In my town (a pretty conservative one), the main public square regularly had loud and infamatory anti-Bush protests (Bush as Hitler, photos of bomb victims, etc.) for much of the Bush years. I am sure some of the local merchants weren&#39;t happy. But the police did not stop anyone as long as they stayed on the public square. That is how our society works. You have a right to try to make me uncomfortable, especially for a political reason.Finally, in the future, please try a little harder not to confuse someone&#39;s defense of free speech with your fevered imaginings   that we must harbor dirty secret desires to say something offensive.&#8212; </p>
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