‘They Stole Our Land’ vs. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem

David Meir-Levi writes and lectures on Middle East topics, until recently in the History Department of San Jose State University.


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MUFTI: It may be that the difference was due to the fact that many lands were bought by contract which were not registered.

SIR L. HAMMOND: There is a lot of difference between 100,000 and 650,000.

MUFTI: In one case they sold about 400,000 dunams in one lot.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Who? An Arab?

MUFTI: Sarsuk. An Arab of Beyrouth.

SIR L. HAMMOND: His Eminence gave us a picture of the Arabs being evicted from their land and villages being wiped out. What I want to know is, did the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then hand it over to the Jews?

MUFTI: In most cases the lands were acquired.

SIR L. HAMMOND: I mean forcibly acquired-compulsory acquisition as land would be acquired for public purposes?

MUFTI: No, it wasn’t.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Not taken by compulsory acquisition?

MUFTI: No.

SIR L. HAMMOND: But these lands amounting to some 700,000 dunams were actually sold?

MUFTI: Yes, they were sold, but the country was placed in such conditions as would facilitate such purchases.

SIR I HAMMOND: I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. They were sold. Who sold them?

MUFTI: Land owners.

SIR I HAMMOND: Arabs?

MUFTI: In most cases they were Arabs.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Was any compulsion put on them to sell? If so, by whom?

MUFTI: As in other countries, there are people who by force of circumstances, economic forces, sell their land.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Is that all he said?

MUFTI: A large part of these lands belong to absentee landlords who sold the land over the heads of their tenants, who were forcibly evicted. The majority of these landlords were absentees who sold their land over the heads of their tenants. Not Palestinians but Lebanese.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Is His Eminence in a position to give the Commission a list of the people, the Arabs who have sold lands, apart from those absentee landlords?

MUFTI: It is possible for me to supply such a list.

SIR L. HAMMOND: I ask him now this: does he think that as compared with the standard of life under the Turkish rule the position of the fellahin in the villages has improved or deteriorated?

MUFTI: Generally speaking I think their situation has got worse.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Is taxation heavier or lighter?

MUFTI: Taxation was much heavier then, but now there are additional burdens.

SIR L. HAMMOND: I am asking him if it is now, the present day, as we are sitting together here, is it a fact that the fellahin has a much lighter tax than he had under the Turkish rule? Or is he taxed more heavily?

MUFTI: The present taxation is lighter, but the Arabs nevertheless have now other taxation, for instance, customs.

LORD PEEL: And the condition of the fellahin as regards, for example, education. Are there more schools or fewer schools now?

MUFTI: They may have more schools, comparatively, but at the same time there has been an increase in their numbers.

The Hajj Amin el-Husseini, the intractable opponent of Zionism, a Jew-hater on par with Hitler, admitted under questioning that no Arab land was stolen; no Arabs were wiped out, no villages destroyed.  Rather, the Jews bought hundreds of thousands of dunam (about ¼ of an acre) of land from willing sellers, often from absentee Arab landowners.  Moreover, thanks in part to the Zionists and the British, the quality of life for Palestine’s Arab peasantry was vastly improved, with less taxation, more schools, and an increase in Arab population.

The next time someone spouts the Arab line about how Zionists came and stole Arab land and drove Arabs out, just quote the Mufti.

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  • Beth

    In the Aticle:

    "SIR L. HAMMOND: …..What I want to know is, did the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then hand it over to the Jews?

    MUFTI: In most cases the lands were acquired.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: I mean forcibly acquired-compulsory acquisition as land would be acquired for public purposes?

    MUFTI: No, it wasn’t.

    SIR L. HAMMOND: Not taken by compulsory acquisition?

    MUFTI: No."

    ……………….

    Wow! (great article)

    "The next time someone spouts the Arab line about how Zionists came and stole Arab land and drove Arabs out, just quote the Mufti"

    Will do.

  • Ray Czar

    Another lie perpetrated by the western press. I have
    a friend who spouted off, in passing conversation, this vindictive lie,
    which he no doubt, thought was fact!

    Funny how these lies are passed off and caught by our
    unsuspecting public, which our western media distort.

    Thanks Mr. Meir-Levi for setting the record straight!

    Ray Czar

  • FriendofGaryCooper

    Wonderful article; and well researched. Given the fact that the quality of life for Arabs was improved by Jewish capital and Jewish presence; one wonders why more Arabs weren't-and aren't loyal to Israel.(Other than the Druse–who are very loyal to Israel) The answer, as implied in the article, is that the truth is rarely an antidote to decades of lies and propaganda.
    And our western notions of tolerance are still ridiculed in the Middle East, outside of Israel.
    But this article is a step in the right direction.

    • aspacia

      Friendof, the Druze support their homeland wherever that may be. For example, have Basque, Scot and English ancestry, am a Deist, but am an American; the Druze behave similarly and will fight for their homeland, wherever that is.

  • tkellybal

    Don't expect the facts to change the minds of jew haters. The facts and truth have been on the side of Israel all along and it hasn't dampened anti-semetic zeal.

    • http://madaboutmahound.blogspot.com/ Gary Rumain

      Of course. It's because they hate. Both libtards and the pislamonazis have the same rabid Antisemitism. The truth is irrelevant to them.

      • Herman Caintonette

        Was David Ben-Gurion (quotes below) a "libtard," or a "pislamonazi?"

        • stern

          On November 15, this poster wrote:
          “[Palestinians] deserve to have a state on the land that was stolen from them. If killing Jewish kids aids in this endeavor, morally speaking, they are legitimate targets."

          Do NOT engage with this person. By denying it the light it desires, we can eradicate this vile virus.

          • Herman Caintonette

            Again, stern, how do you question the moral standards of the god of Israel? Those are the standards I am using in that statement. Denounce YHWH, or apologize for your calumnous statement.

          • Western Canadian

            This same idiot is also a 9/11 truther…. which gives you an idea of his level of integrity and education. Pity the fool.

          • Herman Caintonette

            I agree with the Truthers to the extent that they properly conclude that the 9/11 Commission was an obvious whitewash, and that no one has come up with a plausible explanation for why Building 7 collapsed. But this is fueled by a veteran prosecutor (Guiliani) spoliating evidence (as I recall, firefighters were furious, because they wanted to know why the buildings collapsed, as it would help them do their jobs in the future), the sealing of all evidence related to the incident, and other oddities in the incident.

            When you see a cover-up, the obvious question is one of what needed to be covered up. Could it be that Mossad had something to do with the 9/11 attacks? It is not like the Israelis are above spying on us and/or conducting "false-flag" operations. Some of the evidence that raises reasonable suspicion include:

            "A DEA government document later leaked to the press suggests that a large Israeli spy ring starts penetrating the US from at least this time, if not earlier. This ring, which will later become popularly known as the “art student spy ring,” is later shown to have unusual connections to the events of 9/11." …

            "The Zim-American Israeli Shipping Co. moves their North American headquarters from the 16th floor of the WTC to Norfolk, Virginia, one week before the 9/11 attacks. The Israeli government owns 49 percent of the company." …

            "Of the Mossad, the report says: “Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.

            "Two employees of Odigo, Inc., an Israeli company, receive warnings of an imminent attack in New York City about two hours before the first plane hits the WTC." …

            "An FAA memo written on the evening of 9/11, and later leaked, will suggest that a man on Flight 11 is shot and killed by a gun before the plane crashes into the World Trade Center. … . A report in Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz on September 17 will identify Lewin as a former member of the Israel Defense Force Sayeret Matkal, Israel’s most successful Special Operations unit. Sayeret Matkal is a deep penetration unit that has been involved in assassinations, the theft of foreign signals intelligence materials, and the theft and destruction of foreign nuclear weaponry." …

            "They are taking video or photos of themselves with the WTC burning in the background. But what strikes Maria is their expressions: “They were like happy, you know… They didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange.” She writes down the license plate number of the van and calls the police. … It will apparently be determined at least two of the men are Israeli spies, but what they were doing and why will remain in dispute. One of these Israelis will later say, “our purpose was to document the event.” …

            "Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, when asked what the 9/11 attacks means for relations between the US and Israel, replies, “It’s very good.” [Cui bono?] …

            "Dominick Suter, owner of the company Urban Moving Systems, flees the country to Israel. The FBI later tells ABC News, “Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.” Suter has been tied to the five Israeli agents caught filming the WTC attack." …'

            "According to Charles Freeman, a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, “Israel started Hamas.<./b> It was a project of Shin Bet, which had a feeling that they could use it to hem in the PLO." …

            "Francesco Cossiga, former president of Italy, says in an interview, “All of the democratic circles of America and of Europe […] now know well that the disastrous [9/11] attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
            http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?geopol

            Those last two were jaw-droppers.

            It's like the JFK assassination and Arlen Specter's "magic bullet." The Mythbusters showed that it really could have happened in that manner, but many people believed that there was a second assassin because the records were sealed. Again, if there is nothing to hide, why would people insist upon hiding it? We've seen what happened to Muslims in this country in the wake of 9/11; what would happen to our Jews if it were ever found that the Mossad was behind it?

          • Herman Caintonette

            Damn! I hate it when I forget to close a function.

    • aspacia

      The problem is the academics who make excuses and will not acknowledge the facts citing Muslim traditions or Arab Laws, Mark Levine comes to mind.

      • Herman Caintonette

        I think you meant "Levin." Most American homosexuals don't have inordinate interest in who prevails in the Arab/Israeli dispute.

    • rulierose

      this, unfortunately, is true. but it's always good to remind them of the facts anyway.

  • jacob

    We can rest assured that even those pro-Arab posting here, will claim that this
    transcript is false or as last resort, that the Mufti wasn't the true representative
    of the so called "Palestinian" people, who in reality, have as much right to said
    land as the man of the moon…

    But unfortunately, ISRAEL's PR has been doing practically nothing to clarify the
    situation for the rest of the world to actually understand what is truly going on
    with Israel's enemies, in essence that, exactly like ancient Rome with their
    claim on the Mediterranean Sea as their "Mare Nostrum" (Our Sea) in which
    there was room for nothing but Roman ships, conversely to Arabs, there is no
    room in the Middle East, which they occupied, for anythig else but Muslims, a
    fact that counts for them as with SPAIN (to them El Andalus)….

    Just as simple as this and anything else is equivalent to wet used toilet paper.
    NO MORE AND NO LESS…..

    • Herman Caintonette

      "The first to plead his case seems just, until another comes along and examines him." Prov. 18:17.

      Those of us who aren't rabid Zionists or Christian religious nutters have examined both sides of the controversy, and find that equity favors the Palestinians.

      • aspacia

        Equity: a : justice according to natural law or right; specifically : freedom from bias or favoritism

        Like you are equitable? LMFAO.

        Look at a map Cain incarnate—just look–is it equitable? No! Muslims control a huge amount of the land and Jews control a tiny sliver that they purchased, and constantly have to defend against the rabidly intolerant

        • Herman Caintonette

          Given that the vast majority of Israeli Jews are either from America or Europe, equity favors 100% to the indigenous Muslims, and 0% to those Jews.

      • Western Canadian

        No one who examines both sides, agrees with you. Only jew hating whack jobs agree with you.

        • Herman Caintonette

          Frozen bovine excrement.

    • aspacia

      Our Western media is too cowardly to present the facts. It is as simple as that.

  • Herman Caintonette

    David Ben-Gurion is an equally unimpeachable source. He admits the obvious: Zionists are thieves.

    "In our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us. But let us not ignore the truth among ourselves. I insist on the truth, not out of respect for scientific but political realities."

    "But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. Militarily, it is we who are on the defensive who have the upper hand but in the political sphere they are superior. The land, the villages, the mountains, the roads are in their hands. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country, while we are still outside. They defend bases which are theirs, which is easier than conquering new bases"

    "If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?"

    Yes, you stole their land. And if they want to kill your children in retaliation, ask yourself: What would Hillel say?

    • Rocky Mountain

      I don't think Ben Gurion is exactly saying the Zionists are "thieves" but he is saying there are political and social realities which naturally pit one group against the other and which he understands. Also, the "Arab Leaders" are the ones that probably had the most to lose whereas the sellers of land were simply looking out for themselves. It may be a bit like in the U.S. when foreign buyers start acquiring domestic assets some begin to feel that foreign interests are stealing our country albeit in a legal way.

      • Herman Caintonette

        If you are going to use the Grand Mufti for the pro-Israel proposition, you are stuck with Ben-Gurion's acknowledgement of the pro-Palestinian position. Having been on the business end of injustice and tyranny, my sympathies are with the Palestinian people.

        • Martin K.

          First of all all, from your “quote” I do not get the impression that he holds the view, that the land was “stolen” it is rather that he could imply that others might see it that way. BTW who made the emphasis in the text? Where can the original text be found to verify it?

          One thing is for sure though, many Muslims moved into the land to counter the influx of Jews. Now how could they have OWNED land if they did not live there? Best example of this case is the PLO-honcho Y. Arafat, born in Cairo, but claiming “ownership” of a strip of land that was not his….

          Then another point, if they at first did not own land, how much did they earn to BUY land from the Muslims and also build homes after they moved there?
          To repeat:
          1, how much did these Muslims immigrants earn to buy land
          2, how much money did they have left to build homes
          all in a rather short time (up to 1948-9)
          so that later they can claim "our property was stolen"?
          Just because my granddad worked once in Hamburg/Germany and rented a flat
          in it I can't claim OWNERSHIP of the building!

          just a comparison here it took in the 1950 and 1960 at least about 30 to 40 years for people to be able to pay back all the loans for their homes. Until the last penny was paid, it was the Bank who owned the land and home on it…
          So will you tell me that Muslim landowners gave away their land almost for nothing to fellow Muslims, so as not to sell it to Jews for a higher price?

          BTW when the ownership of a house changes, then it might not be pleasant for the occupants but tenants have to look for a new place, I know as it happens to me too. But I never looked at the rented flat as “MY” property, except of course for the furniture and other belongings.

          In the same case, most likely many of these Muslims peasants lived on “rented” properties and when the land was sold to Jews the new (as it is understandable) wanted to use it for themselves.

          As to land-sale: I do not know of any other country that makes it illegal to sell property to jews as prohibited by HAMAS and CO.

        • Western Canadian

          Any ‘injustice and tyranny’ you claim to have experienced, are probably as much a fantasy as your claimed education.

          • Steve

            I'm in Calgary. You?

          • Herman Caintonette

            In other words, both are very real.

        • intrcptr2

          You keep saying that you've been oppressed, but you've never given us one iota of the inkling of a hint of evidence, excepting of course the strident, "I'm allowed to be evil because" ranting that so resembles the terrorists and Israeli "peace partners".

          Unless you've got something to demonstrate that you've been beat about the head with a burning cross, or had corporate/national icons carved into your back, please drop it; you're not the only person to be wronged, and I think it safe to presume that you've not suffered the sorts of things that a majority of people (Jews and Christians anyway) in the ME do today.

          • Herman Caintonette

            intrcptr: "excepting of course the strident, "I'm allowed to be evil because" ranting"

            Where have I ever said that? I'm merely pointing out the obvious flaws in your arguments. And as for my experiences, I am not inclined to discuss personal matters on a forum like this. Let us just say that it opened my eyes and as a result, I am far more inclined to appreciate the validity of the Palestinians' grievances.

            The Zionists are thieves, plain and simple.

          • kafir

            Herm got picked last for dodgeball. It affected him deeply. The team captains were Goldberg and Cohen.

        • kafir

          I'm guessing that Hermies experience with "injustice and tyranny" is a result of his own shorfalls and failings, and nothing to do with any others. But after reading his claptrap for a while now on FPM, Herm is obviously just a loser who needs to cover his shortcomings and lack of intelligence by blaming others. Very common in the liberal world. Hermie? Is it Bush's fault? Will that help?

          • Herman Caintonette

            I'm guessing that you are Jerry Sandusky, and that you have a lot of time on your hands these days. But after reading his claptrap, kafir is at best a loser who needs to cover his shortcomings and lack of intelligence by defaming others. Very common in the conservative world. Is it Obama's fault? Will that help?

      • intrcptr2

        No, the problem is that Ben-Gurion was saying this, …"If [he] were an Arab leader…"

        Herr Caintonette is incapable of thinking in such conditional, counterfactual ways.

        Ben-Gurion is making the simple statement that the political/military opponents of the Jews believe that the Jews have stolen the land.
        The Mufti's argument, rather pitiably, dovetails with this perfectly, because the Lebanese absentee landlords sold the land, with no concern for the Arab tenants.

        This of course raises two questions in my mind for the Palis to answer;
        1. Why didn't the local Arabs own the land for themselves (Considering that there were no absentee Jewish landlords throwing them off the land)?
        2. How is it a bad thing for taxes to drop, schools to be built, and more Arabs to be inhabiting the area? Or perhaps rather, just why does all this (Bad stuff?) coincide with the arrival of the blood-sucking, rapacious Jews?

        • Herman Caintonette

          How is it a bad thing to be chased from your land at gunpoint?

          • Steve

            But as you know, most Arabs left because other Arabs either convinced them to get out of the way so that they could more easily kill the Jews, or forced them to at the point of a gun. As for those pushed out by the Jews…well, duh: what do you expect when those Arabs were working with those trying to "drive the Jews into the sea" and kill the new born state?

            And where's your cry for justice with respect to the equal number of Jews driven from Arab nations, most of whom had ancestors in those lands rpe-dating the Arabs?

    • FriendofGaryCooper

      David Ben-Gurion also supported the Turks and the Germans during World War I;
      despite the fact that the Turks often tortured Jews. He was wrong to do so. And if, in fact,
      he said what you have quoted above, he was wrong in that instance as well. The Zionists didn't steal anybody's land. In addition, if Ben Gurion uttered the above quote, he was offering only his OPINION. This article talks about specific answere of the Mufti to questions of FACT. Herman Cain all the way.

      • Herman Caintonette

        His opinion is a sound one, and one that both the Palestinians and I embrace. Try talking to a man or woman whose family was forcibly evicted from their land — and who still has the deed to it — and get back to me. I have done so on multiple occasions.

        • Western Canadian

          You have made that false claim several times now. But since you have been caught in numerous fantasies, no one takes you seriously.

          • intrcptr2

            Notice our friend here prefers, and admits, to embrace opinion rather than honestly confronting the facts.

            'nuff said, eh?

          • Herman Caintonette

            Honestly confronting what facts? "The first to plead his case seems just, until another comes along and examines him."

            I'm just looking at all the facts; you are the ones who are cherry-picking.

          • Herman Caintonette

            What "false claim?" I have become acquainted with two people who do.

          • http://www.dikaesha.pbwiki.com Foolster41

            That's nice., But you're expecting people to just take your word at it.
            Western Canadian probably believes it's false because you haven't presented PROOF.

          • Herman Caintonette

            As if that ever deterred the yahoos around here….

          • http://www.dikaesha.pbwiki.com Foolster41

            Mhm. That's nice. Still, that's not proof.

    • aspacia

      Always with Gurion–why no other source? Ben Gurion was wrong.

      • Herman Caintonette

        I have no doubt that there are many corroborating quotes from Jews, but few had the prominence of David Ben-Gurion.

    • Steve

      The Jews are the indigenous people. The Arabs are the invaders, who came 2,000 years after the Jews had first formed a nation state there. In contrast there was never an Arab state. That's because too few settled there, most being nomads wandering between various Arab lands. Hence, Gazans are more Egyptians, and those in the West Bank more Jordanian (and Lebanese and Syrian). Hence why the land was controlled by non Arabs, the Turks, before the British before the Jews. Had it been truly Arab land, they would have controlled it. Instead, it was more or less no man's land.

      That it was essentially no man's land, and that the Jews are the indigenous people, was understood by the league of Nations and then the UN, which both agreed that fairness meant partitioning the land between Jews and Arabs. Of course, most of what was to be Israel went to Arabs anyhow (all of Jordan west of the river). Still, the Jews accepted this reduced portion. The Arabs did not. Consequently, there's been a continuous state of war.

      No doubt, Herman, you think you're being fair-minded and objective. Perhaps then, you can tell what other nations you consider illegitimate? And perhaps you can tell me when you'll be handing over title to whatever real estate you own to native Americans – who unlike the Arabs in Israel, really are the indigenous people. (And, in fact, are analogous to the Jews and Israel.)

      • Herman Caintonette

        We've seen what happens when any land is declared "terra nullius." Just ask the Tasmanian aborigine. Of course, you can't … they fell victim to Australian genocide.

        What I have a problem with is your claim that the Jews were "the indigenous people." If your ancestors lived in Europe for almost a hundred generations, and intermarried with the natives — and many converted to Judaism with no genetic connection to the land whatsoever — it would logically follow that your homeland is really Europe.

        If you are going to cite your Scriptures for support, let us not forget that some of your brethren — the Arabs — stayed behind when your ancestors first abandoned the land to take up residence in Egypt. Moreover, you reacquired the land through genocide. Not exactly an argument resulting in a solid claim.

        As for First Nations peoples, they have intermarried with us to the point where it is difficult to find a pure-bred native. Just as Jews became Europeans, we became North Americans.

        • Steve

          Herman, first:

          1) Jews weren't allowed to intermarry in Europe, being forcibly segregated in most cases, and often subjected to pogroms. To the degree that they Ashkenazi Jews like Europeans reflects more the inter-generational rape of Jewish women.
          2) Genetic testing, in fact, shows the opposite of your claim; it shows that European Jews are one and the same as those Jews who left Israel originally.
          3) I never cited scriptures (and there were no Arabs in Israel when the Jews were taken into slavery in Egypt – they came over 2,000 years later through invasion. And no, the biblical Philistines were not Arabs.)
          4) Your argument about north American natives is irrational, as I'm sure you know.
          5) If your argument is that at a certain point ownership reverts to those who have been there, then at what point did your property become morally yours and not natives?

          • Herman Caintonette

            Hate to disappoint you, but ironically, the Palestinians are from the same genetic stock as Jews. This can only imply one thing: they have as much of a right to the land as European, Near Eastern, or European Jews could ever have. In essence, you are stealing from your brothers.

            "The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes – this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.

            What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).

            Another team, lead by Almut Nebel at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, took a closer look in 2001. They found that Jewish lineages essentially bracket Muslim Kurds, but they were also very closely related to Palestinians."
            http://epiphenom.fieldofscience.com/2009/01/share

            "[I]n 1800s Europe intermarriages often took place as the result of a conscious and deliberate effort to assimilate into European society. Over the last century the rate of intermarriage in the USA in particular has skyrocketed, but most occur for different reasons. Most of these intermarriages take place because the Jew has a much larger chance of meeting a non-Jewish partner, and because many Jews in the USA are being raised without a religious, observant upbringing, and without any detailed formal Jewish education."
            http://www.milechai.com/judaism/jewish-marriage.h

            "One explanation is that they come from the same Jewish source population in Europe. The Atzmon-Ostrer team found that the genomic signature of Ashkenazim and Sephardim was very similar to that of Italian Jews, suggesting that an ancient population in northern Italy of Jews intermarried with Italians could have been the common origin. The Ashkenazim first appear in Northern Europe around A.D. 800, but historians suspect that they arrived there from Italy.

            Another explanation, which may be complementary to the first, is that there was far more interchange and intermarriage than expected between the two communities in medieval times."
            http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews….

          • Steve

            Not true, much as I hate to disappoint you. You refer to a highly biased study that was withdrawn by the journal that published it. All other credible studies found the opposite: Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews are one and the same and are DIFFERENT than Arabs.
            For example:
            "They then compared them with those of various Arab groups – Palestinians, Beduins, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese – as well as to non-Arab populations from Transcaucasia – Turks, Armenians and Moslem Kurds. The study is based on 526 Y chromosomes typed by the Israeli team and additional data on 1,321 individuals from 12 populations… Surprisingly, the study shows a closer genetic affinity by Jews to the non-Jewish, non-Arab populations in the northern part of the Middle East than to Arabs." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_J

          • Steve

            PS: Given the irrationality of your argument about North American natives, I'm wondering when you'll be handing over your stolen land to its rightful native owners? If you're looking for those natives 1/2 or greater "pure blood" try your closest reservation. Explain that you'd like to return occupied land and that you'll be heading back to the land of your ancestors. Of course, if you were Jewish, you'd be returning to Israel.

  • NotaBene

    Guys, guys…this isn't the 1980s anymore. This stuff is so tired and so thoroughly debunked that It'll take more than a few self-serving quotes taken out of context to undo the past three decades of scholarship on the issue.

  • Rocky Mountain

    Unless I missed something I don't think the Mufti said that the Arabs lives had "vastly improved" And please note, I am staunchly pro-Israel but I want to make sure that all the reporting and facts mesh.

    • intrcptr2

      I agree with you, to a point.

      As I read this, it looks as though the Mufti was trying to dodge Sir Hammond's questions and spin his own answers. I get the feeling that Sir Hammond was quite aware of this, which helps explain his repeating questions and clarifying answers.

      It is a similar emotional reaction we see today. Arabs in Israel are in many ways functioning on a slightly lower level than Jews (Although I deem a good bit of that to their own unassimilationist stances), but they are legally permitted to serve in the military, vote, and hold political office (I should think that the liberty they enjoy in Israel the proof positive that Israel IS NOT an aparthied, genocidal state; if they were practicing these things, the US would have dropped them long ago). Israeli Arabs enjoy all the legal and political and economic freedoms that Jews do.
      I believe what the Peel commission was discovering was that the immigration of Jews was raising the living standards of everyone in the Levant, even while the local Arabs complained about the mere presence of Zionists.

      Your comment is demonstration of the glaring difference between "them and us". We strive to be honest and truthful with the facts of life and history. They take what serves their prejudiced purposes and twist the truth to make it a lie.

      L'Chaim!!
      -Kevin

  • LindaRivera

    THEY STOLE OUR LAND vs. ALMIGHTY G-D

    There has always been a minority of courageous Jews who have lived in Israel, especially in and around Jerusalem. Century after century the land of Israel was barren with few trees and few occupants. Many Jews returned in the late 1800s and performed the miracle of transforming desert and swamp into rich, agricultural land. This miracle brought a large number of Arab Muslims from other countries into Israel for jobs from the Jews. Arab Muslims later claimed that the land belonged to them.

    The return of large numbers of Jews back into their G-D given land was prophesied by G-D in the Bible thousands of years ago.

    Bible, Ezekiel 39:28 Then they will know that I am the L-RD their G-D because I made them go into exile among the nations, and then gathered them again to their own land.

    Bible, Ezekiel 11:17 Thus says the L-RD G-D, "I will gather you from the peoples and assemble you out of the countries among which you have been scattered and I will give you the land of Israel."

    Ezekiel 36:28 You will live in the land that I gave to your forefathers, so you will be My people, and I will be your G-D.

    G-D deliberately kept Israel a barren land so that no one would want the Holy Land. When G-D brought Jews back to Israel, G-D kept His promise of transforming the desolate land.

    Ezekiel 36:29 I will call for the grain and multiply it. 30: I will multiply the fruit of the tree and the produce of the field. 34: The desolate land will be cultivated.

    Ezekiel 36:35 This desolate land has become like the garden of Eden.

    ALL who attempt to give away, take, or steal ANY of G-D's Holy Land – Israel, make WAR on Almighty G-D, the Glorious, Awesome, Majestic G-D of the Universe.

    Who will be such a fool as to to make war on the Creator?

    • JEM

      There are so many passages in the bible about the return of the Jews to the land of Israel and the coming Kingdom of God, yet, sadly, few people are aware of this. One thing for certain God will be perfectly just in all that he does and the blessings to follow will be far beyond anything man has experience in his long history of strife and difficulty.
      Praise God the time is drawing near!

      • LindaRivera

        Amen! Glorious and Awesome; G-D is righteous in all His ways and kind in all His deeds. Absolutely good and just! May G-D's Kingdom on earth come quickly!

    • Herman Caintonette

      The deed was fraudulent, as the Hittites didn't own the land and could not convey it to Abram. The transfer in Jewish lore is equally suspect and self-serving; it was taken by genocide (according to your own holy book).

      The Jews who acquired the land via genocide have no standing to complain about Adolf Hitler.

      • Martin K.

        As to the Old Testament, the stoned-gawd allah whoreshipped by Muslims claims that it was HE who "revealed" it to the Jews, they were his "first" true Muslims…. Abraham David, Solomon and "Alexander the Great" were all true Muslims…… LOL

      • Martin K.

        You are aware that the stoned-gawd allah claims that he send Noah, Lot, Abraham Moses David that they were all “Muslims” that he gave the Old Testament as a “guide”. So when Muslim supporters criticize the Bible they attack the muslim gawd allah! A gawd who claimed that the resolutely pagan as borne out by historical facts “Alexander the Great ( AKA Dhu'l-Qarnain,) was in truth a true Muslim, well how many lies can such a gawd tell before one tosses him….

        As to “Palestinians” there are no such people after all the strip of land was named by a roman emperor after a people which were (if they even existed at all) long gone….
        The inhabitants came from the surrounding countries…
        But I'm sure you know all this anyway….

      • Martin K.

        Quote: "The Jews who acquired the land via genocide"

        So and then how can there be over 600 to 800.000 refugees after 1948-9 when then Muslim population in “Israel" was less that number? At the one hand Jews killed the Muslims and at the same time they were driven from their land. If the population was less then 500.000 how could there be such a large number of refugees and yet at the same time a genocide?

      • intrcptr2

        I won't ask, because I already know you think you're being serious, but just how do you explain that the Hittites didn't posses the land to sell it to Abraham?

        What do you know? Stop holding out on us, if you've got some ancient documents that uncategorically prove that the Hittites were not there in possession of the Levant some 3500 years ago.

        And, if you'd care to actually, ya know, READ the Bible, you'd have noticed that the Jews in fact FAILED to drive the people out of the land under Joshua; that is one reason they adopted the polytheism of the Phoenecians and the others. The seven nations were not destroyed until well after the Hebrews settled there, usually in open warfare.

        You are to be pitied. You perfectly mimic the first graders I have to separate after fighting; my mommy told me to hit back. Do you even realized that you've just gone and inverted world history by justifying Der Endlosung? Because the Hebrews conquered the Levant, Hitler was right for butchering them, along with 6 million Untermenschen, like Catholics, gypsies, and evangelicals, and Russians, and Ukrainians, etc.

        oh boy…

        • Herman Caintonette

          Look at the historical record. The Hittite Empire did not arise until ~1750 BCE, a hundred years after the last practical date for Sarai's death.

          I am referring to the tale of Jericho, as related in Jos. 6.

          As for the rest, the right to fight back is supported by a thousand years of Anglo-American jurisprudence (it might even go back to King Alfred's dome book), as well as the Roman ius civil. I merely relate these established facts.

  • LindaRivera

    One commentator makes a completely FALSE statement about David Ben Gurion. David Ben Gurion NEVER made that statement. We are all accountable to the G-D of TRUTH!

    • aspacia

      Actually, he did.

      What Cain incarnate fails to admit is the fact the Syrians and all the rest of the Arab world called their brethren Egyptians or Syrian, and even denied that these Arabs were Palestinians.

  • mrbean

    I bet not a lot of you don't know that next to the Koran or Qu'ran, the number one selling book for the last 20 years in the Middle Eastern Islamic countries is the arabic translation of Hitler's "Mein Kampf".

    • UCSPanther

      They are also huge fans of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and other old European hate propaganda that should have been burnt with the end of WWII…

    • aspacia

      I sure do, especially popular in Turkey.

    • intrcptr2

      Can't confess to knowing that, but it does not surprise me in the least.

      Indeed, literacy and democracy; YAY!!!

      And atheists wonder why so many Americans still think the US a "christian" land.

      Wasn't it Madison who argued in the Federalist Papers that the Constitution would only be as good as the people upholding it?

      • skulldiggerin

        Surprise, surprise !

  • LindaRivera

    Arabs first started calling themselves "Palestinians" in 1967. Global terrorist, Egyptian Arafat was the first leader of this new people. Partner with Arafat for over 40 years; immorally respected by the US/EU-Holocaust denier, Abbas, financed the massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympic Games.

    Before 1948, Jews were known as the Palestinians.
    The Jewish newspaper, the Jerusalem Post was called the Palestine Post. The Jewish-founded electric company was Palestine Electric. The Palestinian Symphony Orchestra was all Jewish. During World War II, the British army had a Palestinian Brigade made up entirely of Jewish volunteers.

    After Jews migrated to Palestine in significant numbers in the late 1800s and miraculously transformed desert and swamps into rich, agricultural land, Arabs came in large numbers from Arab countries for jobs from Jews.

    The fact that the overwhelming majority of Arabs resided only briefly in Palestine is attested to by a one-time special UN decree: that any Arab who had resided in Palestine for only two years before 1948, and then left, would be considered a refugee and so would his descendants!

  • ObamaYoMoma

    The next time someone spouts the Arab line about how Zionists came and stole Arab land and drove Arabs out, just quote the Mufti.

    Indeed, but don't stop there. Also point out the motivation behind the taqiyya, which is not only to create a false pretext to justify jihad, but also to conceal the fact that the jihad extends way beyond the so-called Palestinians and indeed involves the entire Islamic world, as the jihad of conquest being waged perpetually today against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel is just one tiny part of the greater global jihad at large that targets all non-Muslim unbelievers throughout the world in the cause of Allah to make Islam supreme.

    • LindaRivera

      Yes! All who support a Muslim terror state implant in little Israel are actively supporting and EMPOWERING global jihad against the entire Free World.

      Not one inch of Free World Jewish Land to barbaric enemies bent on Jewish genocide and global Islamic conquest!

  • UCSPanther

    These articles that I have found may help shed some light on why the Left, especially the more communistic ones are so dead-set against Israel:
    http://www.wernercohn.com/Trotsky.html http://www.paulbogdanor.com/antisemitism/marxraci

    This is another favorite lie of theirs': http://www.paulbogdanor.com/holocaust/gewirtz.pdf

    Pretty much confirms what I have suspected all along…

  • Ghostwriter

    Good article. But don't tell Herman Caintonette about this article. Al-Husseini is a big hero to this anti-semite and I don't think that he could take something like his hero saying that Jews bought the land. Like the Grand Mufi,HC hates Jews with a passion and wants them dead.

  • randy

    But we all know that the christians stole north america from the natives and keep trying to say that it is a christian nation. Must be hard to believe in a piece of crap like that.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      But we all know that the christians stole north america from the natives and keep trying to say that it is a christian nation. Must be hard to believe in a piece of crap like that.

      Not really. The settlement of the new world wasn't accomplished for Christian conquest to make Christianity supreme throughout the world, as Christianity, in stark contrast to Islam, is a family of many different and disparate faith-based religions and none of them contain a dangerous supremacist imperative similar to Islam.

      Not to mention as well that the freedom of conscience in Christianity is also not forbidden as it is in Islam alone. Hence, Christians unlike Muslims are perfectly free to question and even challenge the texts and tenets of their respective religions and even perfectly free to leave their respective religions or convert to another faith-based religion altogether if they so happen to desire. Whereas in Islam, on the other hand, those same actions, blasphemy in the first instance and apostasy in the second, are capital offenses.

      Indeed, what faith-based religions like Islam also punishes blasphemers and apostates via execution? The answer, of course, is none of them do, proving irrefutably at the same time that Islam is not a faith-based religion.

      Thus, the settlement of the new world was done instead for manifest destiny to make room for the settlement of the new world by freedom seeking Europeans that were fleeing persecution and poverty from Europe. The fact that most of them just happened to belong to various Christian denominations was completely secondary to their quest for freedom and to escape persecution and poverty.

      In addition, no one owned the land. As in Indian society the concept of land ownership didn't even exist, as Indian society was a nomad warlike society, where tribes often aggressively fought and massacred other tribes.

      Nevertheless, out of curiosity and a genuine desire to understand delusional leftism, can you please explain how it is you became so unhinged and thoroughly irrational? I know that moral relativism must have played a large role, but I would also love to hear about other contributing factors as well. Who knows I may write a book about it one of these days like Ann Coulter.

      • Herman Caintonette

        Cortez? The Mystic Massacre? The Tasmanian Genocide? Christians are like that.

        • http://www.dikaesha.pbwiki.com Foolster41

          I think you need to read the new testament more.
          (And no, don't bothering quoting the "kill them before me" verse out of context)

  • radicalconservative

    Stable, “recognized” borders is a modern phenomenon due in no small part to larger populations of a group of people owning and protecting their country. Native Americans were often nomadic and at war with one another and did not themselves maintain stable population centers that they could claim as their own and protect. The immigration of disparate folks (“Christians”, according to Randy) into North America was sure to result in loss of lands by the Native Americans because they had no ability to stake a claim to any territory and protect that territory! Moderns beware: a) demographics is destiny, and b) you better have an army to protect your borders! If you don’t defend yourselves….

  • shrgngatlas

    Well, duh. They stole the land by giving the owners money that the owners accepted because their situations were such that they needed the money more than the land. That's the same way I steal stuff from Wal-Mart when they accept money from me because they'd rather have the money than the stuff I put into my shopping cart off their shelves. We're all a bunch of thieves.

    • intrcptr2

      LOL

      (sorry), just seemed to fit…

  • LindaRivera

    All who support a Muslim terror state implant in little Israel are actively supporting and EMPOWERING global jihad against the entire Free World.

    Not one inch of Free World Jewish Land to barbaric enemies bent on Jewish genocide and global Islamic conquest!

    • Herman Caintonette

      Wasn't our land to give it to them, Linda.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Wasn't our land to give it to them, Linda.

        Actually, it was. Indeed, the Old Ottoman Empire was defeated in WWI and to the victor goes the spoils. Thus, Israel has just as much right to exists as the Islamic states that ganged up together to wage an illegal war of aggression to destroy Israel, because all of them, just like Israel, were also carved out of the same Old Ottoman Empire after WWI. Thus, if those Islamic states have a legitimate right to exist, then so does the Jewish state of Israel.

        • Martin K.

          Libanon, 1943
          Syrien, 1946
          Jordanien, 1946

          Muslims and their friends never complain about the fact that some ME States were formed by the “victories powers” after WWI or WWII out of the former MUSLIMIC Ottoman empire. They are named above and the date of their “independence"…

          Jordan is being ruled by a ruler whose family did NOT even live there…. that does not matter as long as the ruler is a Muslim, because Mohammel ordered his adherents "Allah's Apostle said, 'You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin.'"

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Yep…once land becomes the Dar al Islam (domain of belief), it must always remain the Dar al Islam forever. Indeed, Jerusalem via the imposition of Sharia was rendered into the Dar al Islam in 637. However, the creation of the Jewish state of Israel in 1948 in essence represented the reestablishment of the Dar al Harb (Domain of unbelief) on what was formerly the Dar al Islam.

            Thus, the jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel by the Islamic world is a “fard ayn” (a religious duty) incumbent upon all Muslims. Now, this doesn't necessarily mean that all Muslims must stop what they are doing to go wage jihad simultaneously against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel. To the contrary, as long as sufficient numbers of Muslims are fighting jihad against the Jewish unbelievers perpetually in Israel, not all Muslims must personally participate.

        • Herman Caintonette

          By that metric, you can have no objection to the firing of missiles from Gaza. The war against Israel falls under the ambit of the Catholic doctrine of "just war." This simply is.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            By that metric, you can have no objection to the firing of missiles from Gaza. The war against Israel falls under the ambit of the Catholic doctrine of "just war." This simply is.

            Herman, take your medication and quit wasting my time, or I will sic the white coats on you again and have you locked away for a day like the last time.

  • NotaBene

    Um, is anywhere here aware of the difference between 'buying someone's land' and 'forcing them out of the country and never allowing them to return'? Even the ones who still owned their land legally? I could buy your house and force you to move out of it; it doesn't mean I can kick you out of the entire United States.

    • Martin K.

      The funny thing is this: From 1949 to 1967 the Home-Land of the Muslims was in the hands of their Muslim “brethren” Egypt and Jordan! M any if not almost all “refugee-camps” up to 1967 was on muslim lands. So today a inhabitant of the GAZA-Strip claims to be refugee, even though his father lived on the land that was earmarked for the Muslims.
      Muslims in Gaza & Judea/Samaria AKA Westbank were refugees in their own land!

      It was not the Jews who prevented up to 1967 the creation of a own Muslim state!

      Muslims and their “friends” should hold the Muslim leaders accountable for their failure to create the Home Land AKA two state-solution. To me the whole two-state solution is just a smoke-screen, after all if Islamic politicians were really interested in it, they could have implemented this solution for a long time…..

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Um, is anywhere here aware of the difference between 'buying someone's land' and 'forcing them out of the country and never allowing them to return'? Even the ones who still owned their land legally? I could buy your house and force you to move out of it; it doesn't mean I can kick you out of the entire United States.

      With all due disrespect, that is an anti-Semitic libel, as Israel wasn't responsible for kicking those Muslims out of Israel to begin with, as they left what is Israel today on their own accord on the orders of the Arab Higher Committee made through their mosques via their Imams. They were told that it would only be for a very short while and only until after the Jews had been annihilated and the Mediterranean Sea stained red with the blood of dead Jews. As a matter of fact, they were also told that they would be able to return to claim the property of the dead Jews as war booty.

      In addition, on numerous occasions since that illegal war of aggression fought to destroy the nascent state of Israel upon its birth in a genocidal jihad of conquest in 1948, Israel offered to allow those refugees to return on numerous occasions in the context of a lasting and permanent peace agreement. However, on each and every occasion, those peace overtures went unacknowledged and totally ignored.

      Meanwhile, almost simultaneously the Islamic world in frustration after losing their genocidal jihad of conquest in 1948 to the Jewish unbelievers, ethnically cleansed from their countries approximately 800,000 Jews with nothing but the shirts on their backs after confiscating their property and murdering thousands in pogroms in the process.

      Furthermore, the reason no one knows about those Jewish refugees that suffered ethnic cleansing at the hands of Muslims is because Israel took in those refugees and assimilated, integrated, and incorporated them into their state. While the Islamic countries that had ganged up together to attempt to destroy Israel in an illegal war of aggression and genocidal jihad of conquest, on the other hand, locked up those Arab refugees they are responsible for creating in bob wire concentration camps under armed guards and then passed laws to prevent them from becoming citizens and to prevent them from working in most occupations.

      Hence moonbat, go spread your anti-Semitic garbage somewhere else! Maybe you will find some unhinged and delusional self-hating leftists like you that are dumb and gullible enough to swallow your anti-Semitic lies, libels, and innuendos designed to incite hatred and violence against Israel to foment another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews.

      • NotaBene

        An anti-Semitic libel, huh? And if it were true, what would it change? Answer me that.

        The ‘Palestinians were ordered to leave by their leaders’ has been recognized as a myth for decades now. For one thing, there’s no evidence of it whatever, and massive evidence to the contrary – that Arab leaders told the Palestinians NOT to leave. But you don’t care about that.

        • Western Canadian

          Sock puppet attack!!!

          • Herman Caintonette

            Nota has been around for a while, Nanook.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            It doesn't mean that he isn't an unhinged mentally incompetent moonbat like you.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          An anti-Semitic libel, huh? And if it were true, what would it change? Answer me that.

          It's not true, therefore, it is illegitimate criticism intentionally meant to incite hatred and violence against the state of Israel in order to foment another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews, which make you an unhinged Jew hating anti-Semitic bigot. I hope you like my answer because unlike your answer, it is truthful and therefore constitutes legitimate criticism.

          The 'Palestinians were ordered to leave by their leaders' has been recognized as a myth for decades now. For one thing, there's no evidence of it whatever, and massive evidence to the contrary – that Arab leaders told the Palestinians NOT to leave. But you don't care about that.

          It is recognized as a myth only by unhinged gullible useful idiots like you that were probably already Jew hating anti-Semitic bigots to begin with, and never mind the fact that the source of the hate propaganda you swallow lock, stock, and barrel without reservation also violently oppresses and systematically persecutes when not outright slaughtering altogether all Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers that happen to live inside their Islamic countries as second-class dhimmi citizens without exception.

          Most people would think twice before they stupidly believed any hate propaganda originating from such a group of people, but myopic bigots like you who are totally obsessed with vilifying and demonizing Jews somehow never notice. They also never notice that those same people that are waging a permanent and perpetual jihad against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel are also waging a permanent and perpetual jihad against all non-Muslim unbelievers around the world including you and me as well. Indeed, your intense Jew hatred has rendered you into little more than a myopic gullible useful idiot. Indeed, it sucks to be you.

          Nevertheless moonbat, had the surrounding Islamic states not ganged up together to wage a genocidal jihad of conquest and illegal war of aggression to destroy the nascent state of Israel and to massacre the Jewish unbelievers in another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews in 1948 at the same time, there never would have been any refugees to begin with in the first place.

          Furthermore, close analysis of the data from Arab sources also indicates that approximately 90 percent of the refugees were induced or forced to flee by the Arab Higher Committee, which by the way was headed by the infamous Haj Amin al-Husseini, who was an escaped Nazi war criminal that besides helping to oversee the Nazi extermination camps in WWII also recruited the infamous Hanzar Division SS unit of Muslims responsible for perpetrating numerous atrocities involving many massacres of Jews and Gypsies.

          Meanwhile, approximately 170,000 Muslims didn't flee Israel and those 170,000 Muslims have now grown to 1.4 million and are full citizens of Israel today. Hence, if Israel is responsible for the refugee problem, which is ludicrous, why didn't they force those 170,000 Muslims to also flee? The answer is because you have been duped as you are a gullible useful idiot.

          http://archive.frontpagemag.com/media/pdf/BigLies

  • randy

    Who cares about isreal? North america should be given back to the natives.

  • Tzaphoni

    Israel was the Muslim's final opportunity to redeem himself. He failed.

  • DaveS

    This article is "chronologically challenged." The accusation that Palestinian land was stolen in the 1940's is not disproved by the admission of the Mufti in the 1930's that hundreds of thousands of dunams (less than 5% of Israel's present-day territory) were purchased by Jews from Arabs. No one has ever denied that there were land purchases. However, in 1947-1948, there were dozens of massacres perpetrated by Zionist/Israel forces against Arab civilians, designed to drive them out. If Meir-Levi wants to cite the Mufti as an unimpeachable source, these massacres were documented by Benny Morris, a right-wing Israeli historian who acknowledges that the Zionists committed ethnic cleansing; in fact, Morris regrets that Ben-Gurion did not complete the forced "transfer" but left a couple hundred thousand Arabs in the Jewish State who have now grown to 1.5 million citizens. So how could anything the Mufti said ten years earlier contradict what happened in 1947-8.

    It's plain common sense. The Zionist plan to create a Jewish State in a land where many hundreds of thousands mostly non-Jewish people lived necessarily targeted those people for dispossession or subjugation. The centuries of vicious European anti-Semitism may have been the Zionists' motive, but the unfairness to the indigenous population, the Arabs who had been living in Palestine for many centuries, simply cannot be doubted. The message "We want your land for our state" would not be well-received by any people in the history of the world. It is long overdue for Israelis and their supporters to recognize that unfairness and work toward a future that places equal value on the lives of every human being in the area, regardless of religion or ethnicity. This article is nonsense, intended to deny the obvious facts. At least Holocaust deniers are justly marginalized and ridiculed; unfortunately, Meir-Levi's historical revisionism finds many more adherents.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      No one has ever denied that there were land purchases. However, in 1947-1948, there were dozens of massacres perpetrated by Zionist/Israel forces against Arab civilians, designed to drive them out.

      That's rubbish and anti-Semitic hate propaganda meant to incite hatred and violence against Israel to foment another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews as all of those false allegations have decades ago been demonstrated already to be false. Thus, either you are a biased Jew hating anti-Semitic bigot who doesn't care one iota about the truth when it comes to Jews or otherwise you are a mentally incompetent gullible loon, either way it doesn't bode well for you. Personally, my guess is you are the former rather than the latter or a combination of the former and the latter.

      If Meir-Levi wants to cite the Mufti as an unimpeachable source, these massacres were documented by Benny Morris, a right-wing Israeli historian who acknowledges that the Zionists committed ethnic cleansing; in fact, Morris regrets that Ben-Gurion did not complete the forced "transfer" but left a couple hundred thousand Arabs in the Jewish State who have now grown to 1.5 million citizens. So how could anything the Mufti said ten years earlier contradict what happened in 1947-8.

      Wait a minute, you anti-Semitic bigots can't have it both ways. Sure at one time Benny Morris was a delusional self-hating leftists who sought to portray Israel via revisionist history as the villain, but today he has repudiated his previous revisionist history stating that he wasn't privy to the pertinent information. Hence, when you cite the so-called scholarship of Benny Morris that he himself has repudiated, you demonstrate that you are not only a Jew hating anti-Semitic bigot, but also that you are more than just a little mentally deficient as well.

      It's plain common sense.

      Buddy…you wouldn't know what common sense is if it jumped on your lap and humped you.

      The Zionist plan to create a Jewish State in a land where many hundreds of thousands mostly non-Jewish people lived necessarily targeted those people for dispossession or subjugation.

      Again, that's lame anti-Semitic lies, libels, and innuendos, otherwise known as bigoted hate propaganda meant to dupe gullible useful idiots and to incite hatred and violence against the state of Israel to foment another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews.

      If you want to talk about dispossession and subjugation, have a look inside every Islamic country in the world, where cultural genocide is the rule rather than the exception. Indeed, North Africa, for instance, used to be the heart of Christendom until it was conquered by Islam and rendered into the Dar al Islam via the imposition of Sharia. Yet, if you visit North Africa today, you won't find any remnants whatsoever that North Africa was once the heart of Christendom.

      In fact, Afghanistan was formerly a Buddhist and Hindu country until it was conquered by Islam, yet if you visit Afghanistan today, not only will you not find any Buddhists and Hindus, but you also won't find any Buddhist and Hindu remnants as well.

      As a matter of fact, Christians and all non-Muslim unbelievers that happen to live inside all Islamic countries in the world as second-class dhimmi citizens today are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted, when not outright slaughtered altogether. Yet, this moonbat is so obsessed with vilifying and demonizing Jews, he is too myopic and narrow-minded to notice, but nonetheless he eagerly swallows their taqiyya (deception) as if it is the crack cocaine he obviously is addicted to.

      Nevertheless, the truth is the early Zionist Jews bought the land primarily from absentee landowners living in Turkey and Egypt at overly inflated prices, and the land they purchased was also abandoned and barren because it consisted mostly of malaria infested swamps and hot sandy deserts, as the backward assed Arabs thanks to Islam didn't have the knowledge or the technology available to develop the land.

      Hence, it was the prosperous commerce created by the early returning Zionist Jews with their modern knowledge and technology that created the prosperity and the demand for workers, that then led to a migration of Arabs from surrounding regions to fulfill that demand for workers.

      Thus, the notion that the early Zionist Jews somehow usurped the land from Arab landowners that had lived there since time immemorial for thousands of years is an absurd hateful myth that only anti-Semitic bigots could appreciate or gullible mentally incompetent moonbats could be gullible enough to believe. Indeed, which one are you? My guess is both!

      –continued below

    • ObamaYoMoma

      the unfairness to the indigenous population, the Arabs who had been living in Palestine for many centuries, simply cannot be doubted

      With all due disrespect, only a mentally incompetent gullible useful idiot who already hated Jews to begin with could be dumb and gullible enough to believe that absurd garbage. You must also believe that Islamic society at the turn of the 19th century was unlike it is today also an advance modern society as well and that they herded goats not out of necessity but as a leisure time hobby.

      "We want your land for our state" would not be well-received by any people in the history of the world.

      I hate to rain on your unhinged anti-Semitic parade again you moonbat, but there was this little thing called WWI whereby the previous owners of the land were defeated and as a consequence lost their empire and their land. Thus, if the state of Israel is according to you illegitimate, so is all the Islamic states that had ganged up together to wage a genocidal jihad of conquest and illegal war of aggression intended to destroy the nascent state of Israel, as all of them just like Israel were also carved out of the remnants of the Old Ottoman Empire.

      It is long overdue for Israelis and their supporters to recognize that unfairness and work toward a future that places equal value on the lives of every human being in the area, regardless of religion or ethnicity.

      And at the same time, of course, not only be oblivious to the truth, but also to the fact that the jihad being waged permanently by the Islamic world against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel perpetually is only one tiny part of the greater global jihad at large also being waged simultaneously against all non-Muslim unbelievers around the world perpetually. Indeed, fella, I don't know what it is you are smoking, but send me some because it must be pretty damn good.

      This article is nonsense, intended to deny the obvious facts

      Your post is nonsense, as it reveals that you are not only severely mentally handicapped but also totally oblivious to reality.

      At least Holocaust deniers are justly marginalized and ridiculed; unfortunately, Meir-Levi's historical revisionism finds many more adherents.

      Somehow I believe you wish that Holocaust deniers weren't justly marginalized and ridiculed. In any event, per this mentally incompetent post, it couldn't be any more obvious you are a gullible useful idiot and totally oblivious loon.

      • DaveS

        Wow – you sure showed me. If you're going to falsely accuse others of bigotry and racism in order to deflect attention from your own, it might be advisable not to choose a blatantly racist pseudonym. Your ability to regurgitate false history from the likes of Joan Peters cannot be denied. Very impressive indeed. Your ability to directly respond to my points is somewhat more limited. The fact is, you think Jews should perpetually rule over Arabs, and I think Jews and Arabs should have equal rights. Who's the bigot?

        btw, Benny Morris, even after his right-wing conversion, has acknowledged ethnic cleansing and two dozen massacres. And he's certainly not the only source. But you can continue to operate in your fantasy world. Enjoy!

        • ObamaYoMoma

          The fact is, you think Jews should perpetually rule over Arabs, and I think Jews and Arabs should have equal rights. Who's the bigot?

          Who is the bigot? You are the bigot!

          Hey moonbat, there are 56 Islamic states and only one tiny Jewish state. In all 56 Islamic states, Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living inside those Islamic countries as second-class dhimmi citizens are all violently oppressed and systematically persecuted, when not outright slaughtered altogether. Meanwhile in Israel, which is a Western-style democratic state, all citizens of Israel, including Jews, Muslims, Druzes, and Christians share the same exact equal rights and freedoms. Indeed, Israel doesn't violently oppress or systematically persecute its own citizens. While all Islamic states, on the other hand, do per the dictates of Sharia. Hence, your gripe is pure utter nonsense, since unlike Islamic states, Israel doesn't oppress anyone much less violently oppress and systematically persecute its own citizens, when not outright slaughtering them altogether. Only Islamic states that you sympathize with like a gullible useful idiot are guilty of doing that.

          Not only that moonbat, but Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter to assimilate and integrate but instead only to eventually subjugate and dominate to make Islam supreme via demographic conquest. Indeed, in country after country and anywhere and everywhere mass Muslim immigration is occurring in the world today, just like clockwork the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants flat out refuse to assimilate and integrate and instead form segregated Muslim enclaves that in time morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside.

          Apparently, your ignorance's have been so exploited by Islamic taqiyya that it has rendered you oblivious to the reality that the Muslims you sympathize with like a gullible useful idiot are not only waging perpetual jihad against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel for the purpose of making Islam supreme, but also are waging a perpetual jihad against all non-Muslim unbelievers around the world including you and me. As a matter of fact, the government of France has already identified 758 such no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns in France alone.

          My question, thus, is how did you become so myopic and narrow-minded that you are totally oblivious to this reality at the same time that you are totally obsessed with inciting hatred and violence against Israel to help facilitate another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews? Man…I think if I was half that mentally incompetent, I'd shoot myself in the head just to put myself out of misery.

          btw, Benny Morris, even after his right-wing conversion, has acknowledged ethnic cleansing and two dozen massacres. And he's certainly not the only source. But you can continue to operate in your fantasy world. Enjoy!

          Will you quit mentioning Benny Morris! You already destroyed all your credibility the first time you cited his scholarship which he himself repudiates and it just doesn't get any more unhinged than that. Man…it's pretty fricking bad when an author repudiates his own scholarship, yet because you have been rendered so obsessed with hating Jews, you can't stop believing it and citing it even though it has been repudiated by the author that wrote it. Indeed, it just doesn't get any more unhinged than that.

          • DaveS

            You may wish to educate yourself regarding Benny Morris. After he adopted a right-wing philosophy, he did not repudiate his scholarship concerning Jewish massacres of Arab civilians. Check out this post-conversion interview with him: http://www.logosjournal.com/morris.htm

            Highlights: "The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces Archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also many cases of rape. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves."

            When asked, "According to your findings, how many acts of Israeli massacre were perpetrated in 1948?", Morris replied: "Twenty-four. In some cases four or five people were executed, in others the numbers were 70, 80, 100. There was also a great deal of arbitrary killing. Two old men are spotted walking in a field – they are shot. A woman is found in an abandoned village – she is shot. There are cases such as the village of Dawayima [in the Hebron region], in which a column entered the village with all guns blazing and killed anything that moved. The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin (100-110), Lod (250), Dawayima (hundreds) and perhaps Abu Shusha (70). There is no unequivocal proof of a large-scale massacre at Tantura, but war crimes were perpetrated there. At Jaffa there was a massacre about which nothing had been known until now." Etc. It is true that Morris now claims that Palestinian leaders did urge some to flee, but he had not repudiated his claims regarding the massacres and rapes. Sorry to ruin your day.

            Your claims regarding oppression of non-Muslims in "Muslim countries" are either exaggerated or fabricated, but even if absolutely true, do not refute one single thing I wrote about Israel. The notion that the Jewish State provides full equality to its non-Jewish citizens would find very small support among Israeli Jews and none at all from Palestinian citizens. You are as ignorant of such discrimination as you are about Morris. I suggest you call me "moonbat" another couple of dozen times to disguise your ignorance. Seems to work for you.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            You may wish to educate yourself regarding Benny Morris.

            Actually, I already know all about Benny Morris unlike you. You see like a typical leftwing moonbat, in denial Morris initially tried to cover up his scholarship by revising it after he was exposed by Efraim Karsh as being a shyster, thus he re-issued a new revised edition of his book to attempt to coverup his bogus scholarship, which is the revised edition you are citing like a moronic loon.

            Later on though after it became very apparent he couldn't hide his obvious prevarications, he later repudiated his own scholarship, never admitting though in the process that he was actually an anti-Israel propagandist that had deliberately misrepresented documents in order to vilify and demonize Israel, but claiming instead that he didn't have access to the correct and pertinent documents. However, Efraim Karsh had also irrefutably proven that Morris had also intentionally misrepresented conversations, meetings, and events to deliberately change their contexts and meanings, and to this day Morris still refuses to address those issues.

            Nevertheless, you have been rendered so obsessed with hating Jews by Muslim taqiyya that even though Morris himself repudiates his own scholarship today, which was bogus to begin with, you nevertheless want to believe it so bad that you can't stop yourself from believing it no matter what, and even cite it as if it wasn't bogus, and buddy it just doesn't get any more mentally incompetent and unhinged than that.

            Moreover, Morris is still a delusional leftist, he just has adopted a new saner approach after being thoroughly embarrassed by Efraim Karsh. Indeed, just because Morris has repudiated his previous scholarship and become saner after suffering a major embarrassment, it doesn't mean that Morris is a right winger. Indeed, the only people that are claiming that Morris is a right winger today are unhinged Jew hating anti-Semitic bigots like you and Muslim taqiyya artists, like the ones that destroyed your ability to think and reason rationally, because Morris betrayed you morons. Hence, I would suggest seeking mental help to deal with your obvious severe mental difficulties.

            Your claims regarding oppression of non-Muslims in "Muslim countries" are either exaggerated or fabricated, but even if absolutely true, do not refute one single thing I wrote about Israel.

            Okay, you severely myopic moonbat, out of the 56 Islamic countries in the world, list all the ones that don't violently oppress and systematically persecute, when not outright slaughtering altogether, Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers living inside those Islamic countries today as second-class dhimmi citizens.

            With respect to exaggerating and fabricating, I suggest you study what is happening not only in just Islamic countries but also in many un-Islamic countries as well. Indeed, study what is happening to the Christian Copts in Egypt today, what is happening to the various Christian denominations in Iraq, what is happening to Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and Baha'is living in Iran, what is happening to Christians, Hindus, Ahmadis, and Sikhs in Pakistan, Kashmir, Jammu, Afghanistan, and India, what happens to Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, and Ahmadis in Indonesia and Malaysia, what is happening to Buddhists in the Thailand, what is happening to Christians in the Philippines, what is happening to atheists and Orthodox Christians in Chechnya and Russia, what is happening to animist and Christians in Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria, Sudan, and Somalia, what is happening to Orthodox Christian Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum.

            –continued below

          • ObamaYoMoma

            The notion that the Jewish State provides full equality to its non-Jewish citizens would find very small support among Israeli Jews and none at all from Palestinian citizens. You are as ignorant of such discrimination as you are about Morris. I suggest you call me "moonbat" another couple of dozen times to disguise your ignorance. Seems to work for you.

            Loon, how delusional, moronic, and more unhinged can you be? The legal Muslim citizens of Israel, unlike in every Islamic country in the world, share the same exact equal rights, benefits, and privileges as the Jewish, Druze, and Christian citizens of Israel, in that many of them have been elected to be Alderman, Mayors, Members of Knesset, have served as cabinet level ministers, have been Ambassadors, and have even become Supreme Court Justices. You obviously have been rendered so unhinged and delusional that you are utterly incapable of seeing the truth.

            Indeed, there are thousands of mosques in Israel because the freedom of religion is a cherished inalienable right. However, in Islamic countries, on the other hand, Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers are either outright denied the right to build religious places of worship or severely limited and also relegated to practicing their respective religions behind closed doors and out of sight if at all.

            Moreover, I hate to rain on your unhinged parade moonbat, but so-called Palestinians are not legal citizens of Israel. In fact, the ones that live in Hamastan are governed by Hamas, a jihadist group, and the ones that live in Judea and Samaria, are governed by the Palestinian Authority, another jihadist group.

            Nevertheless, prior to the implementation of the Oslo Peace Accords when Israel still administered the disputed territories, with the exception of the legal Muslim citizens living in Israel, the so-called Palestinians were the freest, most affluent, and most educated Muslims living in the Mideast. However, that all came to a very abrupt halt just as soon as the Oslo Peace Accords were implemented and the administration of the so-called Palestinians was transferred to the PA under the auspices of Yassir Arafat. Whereby Arafat and his kleptomaniac henchmen immediately rendered them into abject crushing poverty and then blamed it all on the Israelis to dupe gullible useful idiots like you.

            Indeed, you said everything you said about Israel is true. However, none of what you said about Israel is even remotely true, as it is all anti-Semitic lies, libels, innuendos, bigotry, and garbage intended to incite hatred and violence against Israel to foment another mass genocidal holocaust of Jews. Thus, the word moonbat is a very appropriate word where you are concerned, as you are incapable of distinguishing from what is reality and what is not, and you wouldn't be able to recognize the truth even if it stared you in the face and spit in your eye.

  • esperantominoria

    Hey,guys,but before anybody feel sorry for the Grand Mufti and his palestinian supporters,great numbers of Muslims in the land,we must never forget that the Grand Mufti knew of the Holocaust and of Hitler's plan to kill all the Jews of palestine.

    If Rommel had won Al-Alamein in Egypt</>,then the Germans would have conquered what in now Israel,there were like 450,000 Jews…….they would have been ELIMINATED in 3 MONTHS.Would the GREAT MAJORITY of Muslims have cared?No,not at all.
    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/04/24/al-hussainig

  • truebearing

    I guess this really doesn't do much for the Islamist's narrative, or the Left's for that matter. The sad thing is that truth will have no effect on them. They will continue to spread their deranged hate regardless the amount of truth that contradicts them.

    Much like the Left's championing of civil rights for blacks, the evil Islamists have hurt the Palestinians far more thah they have helped them. They have intentionally perpetuated the "victimhood" of the Palestinians so they could continue to justify their sick, nihilistic agenda.

  • LindaRivera

    Muslims intend to steal and conquer not only Israel, but the entire Free World. The goal is also being accomplished through massive immigration/colonization of non-Muslim countries.

    In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: "2030-then we take over"

  • LindaRivera

    In a massive victory for Islam, against their will, Arab Christians were cruelly placed under brutal occupation of PLO/Palestinian Authority. In the filthy Islamic Invasion of Church of Nativity in Bethlehem, Judea, Israel, MUSLIMS TORE UP BIBLES FOR TOILET PAPER.. Christian majority towns, Bethlehem & Nazareth are now majority Muslim – terrified Christians were driven out by cruel Islamic persecution. Many Bethlehem Christians' homes and land were STOLEN by Muslims. The Christians who remain, live in constant fear.

  • LindaRivera

    “One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
    —Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.

  • Clap Hammer

    Thank you for posting this.

    It is an undeniable document and I will put it's content to good use in fighting the de-legitimization campaign.

  • thor42 [Friend of Israel]

    *Outstanding* article!

    Well, well. Who would have thought it? The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem admits that the Jewish people *bought the land from willing sellers!*
    Good stuff!