The Conundrum of the Pro-Hamas Peaceniks

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The freedom-loving humanitarians who profess to defend the egalitarian values that are the cornerstone of civil society in the West are usually strong proponents of the rights enshrined in the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights, including:

Equality of persons, without distinction of race, color, sex, language, religion, political opinion, national origin, sexual preference.

The right to life, liberty, and security of person.

Freedom from slavery.

Freedom from torture and from cruel, inhuman or degrading punishment.

Equality before the law and equal protection of the law.

The right to enter into marriage as free and consenting adults.

Freedom of thought, conscience, opinion and religion.

Freedom to manifest one’s religion.

Freedom to change one’s religion.

Islamic terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, el-Qaeda, Hizb ut-Tahrir and many others promote a social order which is an anathema to the liberal values of the West.  These characteristics include:

Eternal Jihad: the commitment to unending violence to make Islam the sole or dominant religion in the world.  Jihad is central to the prosecution of a perpetual war against all non-Muslims.

Imperialism: the jihadist goal of world conquest and the imposition of Islam on all humanity is religiously motivated imperialism on steroids. The Muslim terrorist leaders of Hizb ut-Tahrir  held a conference in Boston in 2009 announcing their plan to replace Western governments with Shari’a law…. “Islam uber Alles.”

Supremacism: Arabs are the “best of people” (Qur’an, Surah 3:110) and Islam is the only true religion.

Triumphalism: an end-of-days scenario in which Islam ultimately triumphs over all mankind, displaces or subordinates all other religions, annihilates all Jews, and globally imposes Muslim rule.

Totalitarianism: Islam is, by its own definition, a totalitarian religion, obligating its adherents to complete submission to Shari’a.

Theocracy: The core of Islamic political history is the supremacy of Shari’a over any other form of government.  Islam demands that political rule be in the hands of the religious leaders to whom any secular leader must be subordinated.

Gender Apartheid/Misogyny: The deeply misogynistic repression of women is an irrefutable part of Muslim social history, a tragic and gut-wrenchingly brutal assault on women.  The indignity and inconvenience of the hijab and burqa, the restricted opportunities for education, and restrictions of a woman’s right to chose her mate are dwarfed by the savagery of honor killings, female genital mutilation, forced child (and even infant) marriages, stoning or vivisepulture as punishment for even the suspicion of adultery, and acid disfigurement or violent beatings for even the accidental appearance of a woman’s ankle in public.

Religious Apartheid: The Muslim doctrine of “dhimma” is the institutionalization of legislated religious apartheid.  All non-Muslims living under Muslim sovereignty are subject to oppressive, discriminatory laws. These non-Muslims, legislated into a legal status of inferiority, are known as “dhimmi” (people of the contract or “protected people”).  Whatever limited rights dhimmi might enjoy were determined by the local Muslim religious leaders, in exchange for jizya (a poll tax), in accordance with the limitations delineated in the eighth century Pact of Omar.  Most Muslim countries in modern times have tended to be lax in the enforcement of dhimma, but it was officially reinstated in Iran after the Islamic revolution in 1979.  Pakistan re-instituted dhimma officially in 1956.

Genocide: Leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah have been unabashedly clear that their ultimate goal is the annihilation of world Jewry.  Hamas and Fatah officials have repeatedly declared that their objective is the obliteration of Israel. Hassan Nasrallah stated openly: “If (the Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide.”   In their own words they declare their commitment to the genocide of all Jews worldwide.

Other characteristics of Shari’a law in stark violation of human rights include the legalization of slavery; the implementation of cruel and unusual punishments such as amputation, beheading, and crucifixion; death sentences for homosexuals; denial of freedom to convert out of Islam; denial of freedom to manifest a non-Muslim religion in public; and denial to dhimmi and women equality before the law.  Typical of some Arab regimes and terrorist groups are the use of torture, arbitrary arrest, restrictions on freedom of expression, limited or non-existent freedom of the press and other media, total disregard for the Fourth Geneva Convention and humanitarian treatment of prisoners; and the ability to issue unadjudicated death sentences against civilians who are perceived to be enemies of the religion.  Perhaps most horrific of all is their use of their own civilians as human shields and their recruitment, training and deployment of homicide bombers, including children.

One might conclude that any defender of human rights would find such a society to be utterly odious, an anathema — but some do not.

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  • FarooqAbbas

    Ridiculous! So anyone who does not share the liberal Western values is a terrorist. If this is Western liberalism, Mussolini's fascism was not anymore worse!
    I have not found Hizb ut Tahrir supporting or encouraging any acts of terror. The other organisations who are branded terrorists have been fighting the occupiers, Israel. If that is terrorism, I am One!

    • aspacia

      Yes, if you are an obedient Muslim, you are indeed a terrorist. From the mouths of your leaders we have heard and know our enemy:“The Jews are the cancer spreading all over the world…the Jews are a virus like AIDS hitting humankind…Jews are responsible for all wars and conflicts….”

      — Sermon by Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris
      Palestine Authority TV
      May 13, 2005

      “If we searched the entire world for a person, more cowardly, despicable, weak and feeble in psyche, mind, ideology and religion, we would not find anyone like the Jew. Notice, I do not say the Israeli.”

      — Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah
      Quoted in Amal Saad-Ghorayeb,
      Hizbullah: Politics and Religion, London, 2002, p. 170.

      “Jews subscribe to a belief in racial superiority…Their religion even teaches them to call down curses upon the worship places on non-Jews whenever they pass by them! They arrogantly refer to anyone who is not Jewish as ‘gentiles,’ equating them with sin. ”

      — “What Islam Is All About” textbook,
      IBTS, pg. 188, target readers: Grades 3-6

      “Allah revealed to Muhammed that the Jews had changed their Book, the Torah, killed their own prophets and disobeyed Allah. And the Jews did not want the Arabs to know about these shameful things.”

      — “Mercy to Mankind” textbook,
      IQRA, pg. 23, target readers: Grades 5-6

      “After telling the governor lies about Jesus and making him think that Prophet Jesus was starting a rebeliion against Rome, the Jews were finally able to get an order for his execution. The Koran states that the Jews did not kill Jesus nor did they crucify him. Allah states, however, that the Hews thought they did it.”

  • In'al Abuk

    Yes, Farooq you certainly are a terrorist and Israel is no occupier but a liberator of its own lands that Islamofascists like you are trying to steal

    • ziontruth

      Excellent! Give that ibben kalb hell!

    • aspacia

      Funny how humorless Muslims fail at sarcasm every time. Israelis, and most Freedom loving, tolerant individuals know their enemy well:

      “They [Jews] tried to kill the principals of all religions with the same mentality in which they betrayed Jesus Christ and the same way they tried to betray and kill the Prophet Muhammad.”

      — Syrian President Bashar Assad, during the visit to Syria of Pope John Paul II
      New York Post, May 6, 2001

      “The Jewish nation, it is known, from the dawn of history, from the time Allah created them, lives by scheme and deceit.”

      — PA Communications Minister, Imud Falouji
      Palestinian television, August 8, 2002

      “We know that the Jews have manipulated the Sept. 11 incidents and turned American public opinion against Arabs and Muslims….We still ask ourselves: Who has benefited from Sept. 11 attacks? I think they (the Jews) were the protagonists of such attacks.”

      — Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef in Assyasah (Kuwait)
      translation from Saudi magazine ’Ain-Al-Yaqin, November 29, 2002

      “They succeeded in gaining control in most of the [world’s] most powerful states, and they — a tiny community — became a world power. But 1.3 billion Muslims must not be defeated by a few million Jews. A way must be found….The Europeans killed six million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews are in control of the world via their proxies. They lead others to fight and die for them….If we are weak, no one will support us. The Israelis respect only the strong, and we must therefore all unite.”

      — Malaysian Prime Minister Mahatir Mohammad
      at the opening of the Organization of Islamic States summit
      October 16, 2003

      “O God, strengthen Islam and Muslims, humiliate infidelity and infidels. O God, destroy your enemies, the Jewish and crusader enemies of Islam.”

      — Shaykh Jamal Shakir
      Sermon from King Abdallah mosque in Amman
      Amman Jordan Television Channel 1 in Arabic
      March 5, 2004

      “The Prophet said: the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him! Why is there this malice? Because there are none who love the Jews on the face of the earth: not man, not rock, and not tree; everything hates them. They destroy everything, they destroy the trees and destroy the houses. Everything wants vengeance on the Jews, on these pigs on the face of the earth, and the day of our victory, Allah willing, will come.”

      — Shaykh Ibrahim Mudayris
      Palestine Authority TV
      September 10, 2004

      “The Zionist attempts to transmit dangerous diseases like AIDS through exports to Arab countries.”

      — Al-Manar (Hizballah TV)

      • Ghostwriter

        Yeesh! Why would anyone want these guys as friends? Sounds like a bunch of people Flipside would like a lot.

        • Flipside

          No. Really, I don’t agree with either the Muslim or the Jewish clerics.

  • flipside

    Nazi Norman Finkelstein is not just pro-terror but he is a fulltime Neo-Nazi and anti-Semite who was fired by DePaul for being a gutter hatemonger. He also smells bad and has never had a date.

    • Flipside

      Stop posting as me.

      • ziontruth

        Stop posting as you.

        • stern

          Brilliant. Post of the day. No, month!!

    • Flipside

      Daulette Dettleslinger wants to be me so badly that she takes my name. I guess no one is reading her blog these days.

      • Ghostwriter

        Who would want to be you?

        • Flipside

          Clearly Daulette, who posts as me.

  • Northanhymbre Heathen

    These liberal lefties are simply cowards in my mind pure and simple. On the surface they appear to be saying "but it's like, just your culture maaan – we support you in doing your thang! We eeempathise with you! We undershtaaaand you! Suicide bombing is jusht a cry for help by poor iddy biddy powerwesh people!" But really underneath they're shreiking "please don't kill us! Please don't kill us! We like you, it was those guys over there who said those bad things about you – behead those first ..argghh!"

    I think psychologists call this "the Stockholm syndrome" or something (ie where victims will begin to empathise with those who threaten and abuse them, probably driven by an innate appeasement instinct designed to secure self-preservation.)
    I'm done with this lilly-livered claptrap – my opinion now, on reading more about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for example, is that the Jewish settlers should build more houses, in the shape of the biggest Star of David on the planet, so big that it can be seen from outer space! For every every terrorist fruitloop who tries to kill Jews, they should build another house onto it, and another, and another, and they should all be so armed to the teeth that anyone setting even a toe into the their territory would leave it on a stretcher, guaranteed.

    Oh no, there'd be no appeasement in my ideal Israel (I mean I'm not even a Jew, not even a Christian, I'm infact a shameless idolator, but even I can see that the Jews are completely in the right here – all power to them! If anything the Israelis have been too nice to these Hamas thugs!) To heck with what the rest of the world thinks too – why should Jews give a flying cr£p about the world's opinion? The only place where they weren't persecuted by the natives was in India (until the Muslim invaders and Catholic Portuguese got there that is….) They have my admiration especially since, whilst the religion of my own people was wiped off the map by marauding Christians here in Europe (the "good Christian" Charlemagne forcibly baptised and then beheaded at least 4500 of my Polytheist Saxons ancestors at Verden, and drove the rest out, rendering them "non-human" in legal terms, an event which should live on in infamy, but doesn't) the Jews have survived all the dehumanisation and pogroms and they still continue, still have all their rites and prayers, are still alive despite the attempts of deluded maniacs to exterminate them over the centuries. I think it's high time they were just left alone to live their lives with a bit of peace and dignity, and "useful idiots" from the political left here in the west shouldn't be trying to put obstacles in the way of their being able to do that in their own country (at long last!). The hypocrisy of these self-righteous spineless wonders sickens me – let THEM be born in Israel next time and see what it's like to live near a bunch of genocidal savages who'd think nothing of cutting THEIR head off and using it as a door stop!! (The sad thing is though, that this sort of "be nice to the Nazi freaks and they'll be nice back" mentality has even penetrated Israeli youth nowadays it seems – oh the humanity!)

  • Flipside

    At least four of these hateful characterizations of Muslims also describe Orthodox Jews. The irony of Jewish race hatred is that it is a boomerang.

    • ziontruth

      "…hateful characterizations of Muslims…"

      Let's sue the truth for being hateful.

      "…also describe Orthodox Jews."

      Maybe, maybe not. Whatever the case, Islam being imperialistic makes it a whole new ball game no matter what other similarities it has to (by virtue of ripping off) Judaism.

      Orthodox Judaism like Islam might not be palatable to advocates of the 18th-century Enlightenment, but unlike Islam, it is of no concern for most people, because Judaism applies to one nation only and its laws of statecraft to one state in the world, while Islam is to be forced globally on all of humanity.

      It amazes me how so-called "pragmatic" people fail to see this truth, opting instead for an ideological lumping together of the two religions.

      "The irony of Jewish race hatred…"

      Remind me again what race "Muslim" is? Ah, but you can't, you're just using the time-honored Marxist tactic of using the emotionally charged R-word for the effect, regardless of the fact that it simply doesn't apply here.

      • Flipside

        Jews have race hatred for Muslims.

        • ziontruth

          Yes, just like you have anti-religious hatred for black people. Blacks are a religion, aren't they? I mean, if Islam is a race…

          Orwell's prescience about the abuse of terminology to further a nefarious agenda is nowhere shown better than by the use of the Race Card with regard to Islam and Muslims.

          • Flipside

            I don’t have racial or religious hatred for anybody. Stop trying to beat me over the head with black people. This is the hate site, and I am the peaceful commenter.

          • ziontruth

            "I don't have racial or religious hatred for anybody."

            Nixon preceded you in denying the obvious, and did it much better.

            "Stop trying to beat me over the head with black people."

            Stop using the Race Card, then. Away with those "Jewish race-hatred for Muslims" accusations.

            "This is the hate site, and I am the peaceful commenter."

            You know, I feel for you. It must be hard cleaning those angel wings at the end of every day having spent the day among us lowly mortal earthlings.

          • aspacia


            Flipper is too stupid to debate or add anything of substance. I quit responding to the dolt.

          • guest

            Word on the street is you're an unemployed, paranoid bum in drag, blogging away from your mommy's basement.

        • Peaceful Commenter

          Take it from someone who reads through the comments on this website often and has no dog in this particular fight: you, Flipside, are as demonstrably bigoted towards Jews as most of the other commenters here are towards Muslims. You simply adhere to a different flavor of the very mentality you so assiduously criticize in others around here. You all globalize about different groups far too much.

          • Flipside

            I said “peaceful commenter” so that someone would take that name. And, so, here you are. I want your criticism to be valid. But really, this isn’t a matter of bigotry. I am not here on FPM because of my supposed bigotry against Jews. I am here because I do have a dog in the fight where David Horowitz tried to set himself up as Minister of Culture and proceeded to attack professors, writers, and musicians, and genres that I either know or work with, or am active in producing. The political climate that results from this site is the very same one as helps produce our police state and our world war posture. I am not speaking here as an act of bigotry, but rather as an act of conscience.

          • Ghostwriter

            Could have fooled me. I thought that you were here because you wanted to spread your anti-semitic filth wherever you can. And might I say if you had a conscience,you wouldn't be the vicious anti-Jewish monster that you seem to be. And if you were in a police state,why aren't you in jail? If you were in a real police state,you'd be looking over your shoulder every five minutes. There are real police states out there,particularly in the Middle East,but you don't count them. They hate Israelis and Jews almost as much as you do. You just don't like being criticized for being what you are,an anti-Jewish bigot.

  • aspacia

    Ah, the Muslim, flea-bitten, foaming, rabid dogs avoided the needle, and escaped.

    Quit apologizing for your violent brethren, and remedy the problem, rather than standing idly by while other Muslims and the kaffir are massacred.

    That is, grow some balls and have the courage to criticize your violent brethren.

  • aspacia

    Good expose Meir-Levi:-)

  • LindaRivera

    Adam Shapiro: “Free Gaza is but one tactic of a larger strategy, to transform this conflict from one between Israel and the Palestinia­ns, or Israel and the Arab world…to one between the rest of the world and Israel…”

    The filthy LIES and Muslim propaganda that Shapiro spouts for totalitarian, colonizing Islam.

    It is GLOBAL JIHAD against Israel and the entire Free World.

  • Nakba1948

    You're all quick to label the Hamas as "terrorists." Answer me this: what do you call the bombing of the King David Hotel? The Lavon Affair? The USS Liberty? Or for that matter, the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, my people, in 1948, and their continued oppression, humiliation and murder? Most of the world views Israel as the terrorists, not Hamas. You do understand that, don't you? You Zionist neocons can't have it both ways. People are waking up to your crimes thanks to the internet.

    • Parveneh Sarshar

      Dear Nakba1948, Some 800,000 plus indigenous Jews of the Middle East were thrown out of your Arab Muslim paradises after being completely stripped of their property equaling in today's money 80 billion dollars. In addition to this these same people held land titles which when combined equal 5 times the landmass of Israel. As well since your people, the so-called Palestinian people have expanded exponetially in population since the founding of Israel and have the 3rd highest morbid obesity rate in the world please don't make us laugh with your talk of "ethnic cleansing" and "humanitarian crisis". People are indeed waking up. It is obvious that Islam and Muslims are incompatible with anything. The day is coming when the non-Muslim World is going to change from a defensive mode to an offensive mode towards the Muslim/Islamic World and then you will have something to complain about. Happy Holidays Nakba1948.

    • Choi

      IF there was any "ethnic cleansing" of the so-called "Palestinian"people,than HOW are YOU here posting?
      Based on YOUR LIE,your parents and grandparents would have been "cleansed,"BEFORE you were born,unless you're 63 yrs old or older,in which your very presence also PROVES YOU LIE re: ethnic cleansing".

      NO! The TRUTH is that your Murdering people WOULDN'T and still WON'T accommodate the FACT that the Jewish Nation is SOVEREIGN in IT's OWN LAND.
      Your "homeland'=The Arabian Peninsula.PERIOD.

  • NotaBene

    Norman Finkelstein is the greatest living scholar on the Israel-Palestine issue. I'd love to see Horowitz debate him; there'd be blood on the floor.

    Finkelstein was very clear why he supports Hezbollah: he supports the rights of people to resist foreign occupiers who are destroying their country. Do you disagree with this principle? Israel has killed more people in a few weeks than Hizbullah or Hamas have in their entire histories. What's that about 'depraved indifference to human life'?

    • Nakba1948

      Couldn't have said it better myself. People under occupation are allowed to resist their occupiers. No less than the First Protocol Addition to Geneva Conventions (which Israel of course hasn't ratified) states that resistance of any form is legal in "armed conflicts in which peoples are fighting against colonial domination and alien occupation and against racist regimes in the exercise of their right of self-determination." Check and mate, Zionist dogs.

    • Ghostwriter

      You guys are amazing! Hezbollah has killed Americans! Do you both support the murder of Americans? Well,that's what Hezbollah did. You guys are like Flipside,a bunch of anti-Jewish monsters who hate Jews so much that you don't care who dies. Is it any wonder that Hezbollah are on the State Department's list of terrorist organizations? NotaBene you and Nakba1948 ought to be ashamed of yourselves,although shame would require having a conscience which you two so obviously lack!

    • Northanhymbre Heathen

      Finkelstein supports Hezbollah because he's a naive moral relativist with cotton wool for brains who doesn't know the difference between good and evil, civilisation and savagery, decent people and bad people.

      "he supports the rights of people to resist foreign occupiers who are destroying their country."

      These same people have more rights in Israel than they do in the PA, where the human rights record is abismal, "collaborators" are slaughtered like sheep, women are considered less worthy than goats, and people hand out sweets in the street when they hear about Jewish babies having their throats cut.

      I'm curious NotaBene and Nakba1948 – what do they call the nice little cosy planet, which yourselves and Norman Finkelstein obviously inhabit, where moral relativism actually works, because it's certainly not planet earth?!

    • Choi

      David Horowitz would WIPE THE FLOOR with Finkelstein!
      Let's put that one on National TV.

  • Northanhymbre Heathen

    I doubt anyone who supports the Palestinian "cause" could wipe the floor with anyone who supports Israel. Instead of demonising Israel, why don't these people look to the real culprits here, ie Islamic Supremacy ideology and the persistence of Nazi genocide fantasies amongst the Palestinians, and the shameful history of such as the Jordanians, Saudis and Lebanese, who have slaughtered thousands of their Palestinian Muslim "brothers" rather than provide them with any tangible help.

    Instead of picking on the only GENUINE democracy in the Middle East, where there is at least some attempt to ensure citizens' human rights (including those of women), why don't this lot go on about the poor Bangladeshis conned into slavery in Dubai, the abuse of women in Saudi (and just about everywhere else in the Muslim world) ,the persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt? The list could go on and on, but oh no, they're only interested in demonising western-style democracies, which might not be perfect (where is on this planet?) but which at least make the attempt to provide citizens with some freedom and dignity!