Uproar over Suspected Israeli Strike on Iran


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First it was the Shalit deal. Then it was about a week of rocket fire from Gaza, seasoned with the Palestinians’ UNESCO triumph. Now Israel is in a tizzy again—about attacking Iran.

On November 8 the International Atomic Energy Agency is set to release a report on Iran’s nuclear program that is expected to be the most damning ever, saying the program goes well beyond the civilian sphere. It wasn’t that, though—at least not directly—that triggered the uproar in Israel.

What got it going was a front-page column on Friday by veteran, left-of-center, anti-Netanyahu columnist Nahum Barnea in the fiercely anti-Netanyahu daily Yediot Aharonot. Called “Atomic Pressure,” it claimed Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak had already decided, just the two of them, on an Israeli move against Iran.

All hell broke loose. The issue of the Iranian nuclear threat to Israel—usually inanely relegated to the margins by the media, often in favor of saucy scandals or outrage over the price of cottage cheese and gasoline—suddenly sprang forth on every news and opinion page of the Hebrew press. Now every two-bit journalist was pronouncing on what is actually the paramount, existential issue facing Israel, dwarfing all others even though many of them are not exactly trivial.

Some public figures reacted with fury, claiming Yediot and other anti-Netanyahu elements of the media were deliberately stirring up the storm to turn the public against a strike on Iran—or just to discomfit Netanyahu (they also don’t much like Barak, of left-of-center background but now close to the prime minister). It was claimed that turning these ultra-sensitive security issues into a wild public free-for-all was the height of galling irresponsibility.

Among the critics are three members of Netanyahu’s eight-minister inner cabinet, a key decision-making body. Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said what the media was publishing had “no relation to the truth” yet was causing “tremendous damage.” Minister-without-Portfolio Benny Begin called it a “campaign of recklessness.” In an op-ed in another daily, Maariv, Intelligence and Atomic Energy Minister Dan Meridor said the media hubbub amounted to a form of treason.

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  • PatriotX

    If Israel did a pre-emptive strike, they would be well within their rights at this point. The Barack Obama Administration has has plainly and shamefully made it clear that the U.S., as their ally, can not be trusted to have their backs anymore. In fact some of actions could be construed as one an enemy would conduct.

    Israel has shown a great deal of restraint in dealing with the Palestinians and the Iranians. I think the time for ending the small talk is definitely overdue.

    • ze-ev ben jehudah

      PatriotX.
      100% right.I would have written something likewise.Thaks.

    • tom4you

      Somehow we have to prevent all those missles in Gaza, Syria and Lebanon from firing…perhaps a preemptive neutron strike and/or EMP and then take our Iran? Remember that Damacus is supposed to be destroyed according to scripture….a peace treaty is also supposed to occur, could this mean that the West so destroy's them that they call Uncle?

    • Asher

      We are with Israel 100%, and have been sending money for medical supplies, food, water, and other resources….Wish we could do more…..The World's security is at stake from Tyrants who want to Nuke everyone…..How does Israel take out the nukes, without the permission from Turkey to use their airspace?

      • Stephen_Brady

        Aher, they've been planning this strike for years. They won't get permission from Turkey, without strong pressure from NATO, which will not be forthcoming. They will … I suspect … overfly Iraq, launch missiles from submarines, and there may be limited and highly-effective ground action from Israel's equivalent of our special forces (I'd sure hate to have Mossad mad at me!).

  • Grantmann

    This has been building for years. Let's not forget that Bush "outsourced" the Iranian negotiations to the E-3 and got nowhere. There's a quote from some Iranian I read years ago that stated they "played the Europeans to stall for time." And laughed about it.

    This whole Iranian atomic fiasco is cannot be laid at the feet of Obama solely as much as it's politically expedient to do. This is truly a bipartisan clusterfark.

    Internationally a clusterfark, too, since none of our supposed "allies" have done anything except encourage Iran to continue.

    Israel is in a no win situation; one that I am not in favor of a preemptive unilateral strike. Certainly not with 50K – 100K missiles aimed at them. That's national suicide. And even if they did it, the international condemnation would be of a magnitude greater than the Mami Marvara (sp?) blockade incident. There Israel was completely within her rights and still no one "backed" her.

    Let's have a little strategic thinking here, gang.

    • Larry

      Strategic thinking is getting in first before the other bloke has the means to nuke you.

      Sometimes it has to be done.

    • 1minuteman

      bush did not put israel in the position they are in right now it was obama backing the muslim brotherhood and telling israel to go back to its pre 1969 borders. obama's past is filled with people who want israel destroyed so don't pull that bi partisan bull crap. oabma and soros and friends have set up israel.

    • stan

      I think you are suggesting that Israel define itself by its enemies. Israel cannot define herself by her enemies anymore than believing the reason for Jews to survive and have a lot of children should be because of what Hitler did. Israel must do what it must do to save its existence no matter what the repercussions; this is a circular problem that Israel needs to step out of.

  • aspacia

    Ynet posits both left, center and right opinion pieces. Hornik is off on this part of his claim.

    • ziontruth

      YNET brings some token right of center pieces, but most of its pieces are biased left, and more outrageously, this slant is present in nearly all of their non-opinion articles.

      The Israeli MSM is as left-leaning as they come.

  • Spinoneone

    There was no "strategic" thinking in Europe in 1936, 1937, 1938, or 1939 prior to 09/01/39. The consequences were fairly dramatic. What were the costs of appeasement? How many millions of lives would have been saved if the French and British had said, "No!" to Hitler when he occupied the Rhineland and Saar in 1936?

    It seems to me that a strike against Iran pre-supposes another strike against Iran's proxies in Syria, Lebanon, and Gaza. The stakes in taking action are large; the stakes in taking no action may very well be larger.

  • StephenD

    As I see it, much of Europe is dependent upon Iranian oil. They CAN'T make a preemptive strike even if they support the idea.If the US were to become energy independent with enough reserves to prop up those in Europe that would act against Iran, maybe they would be more inclined to take strong action. They in Europe, regardless if they “like” Israel or not, recognize that Israel is the only stable, western style nation in the entire M.E. and they can be counted on to act rationally; they could do business with Israel and they know it. If it cost them to take action, they can take their loses out of the hide of Iran after the fact. To the Victor go the spoils.

  • oldtimer

    So now the world condemns Israel for possibly thinking about striking Iran. I thought it was in the best interests of any country to be prepared , it's called defense. Why isn't the world condeming Muslims for doing.. like killing Christians, Jews and anyone who doesn't agree with their way of thinking

  • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

    Israel doesn’t fear being attacked by a nuclear Iran. They fear losing their nuclear supremacy. But what do I know about such things. I live in America. It’s not like there was ever a long nuclear threat against us.

    • stern

      You’re not really that dumb, are you? I mean, you do realize that if Iran goes nuclear, it will directly threaten American interests throughout Europe and the MIddle East, until it eventually has the power to threaten America directly?

      It’s so nice to be in your comfortable armchair and pronounce your wisdom and anti-Semitism from a safe distance. Unfortunately for you, no distance is safe forever.

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        Ooooooh “American Interests” like taking foreign oil out of the clutches of Russia and China while making me pay a 300% markup on driving to work. American interests like sticking their head up BP’s rear end. I benefit from this how? American Interests like keeping oil valued in dollars which are then set at a real value of 30 cents when I want to use them to buy food. American Interests like stopping Islam while treating every American on public transportation like he is a member of Al Qaeda. How could I not defend American Interests like that?

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        Incidentally, are you threatening me with violence?

        • stern

          If you're referring to the last sentence of my post above, then you really are that dumb. My entire post talks about the threat Iran poses to the US. As an American, you are threatened by Iran. So no, I'm not threatening you. I'm warning you that ignoring Iran may come back to bite you. Hard.

          • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

            OK. Because the wording implies that I am going to be punished for allegedly being antisemitic and for enjoying my own furniture.

    • jacob

      FLIPSIDE :

      Could you tell me when has ISRAEL threatened any people with destruction ??

      My understanding is that, if Israel actually has nuclear weapons, it is only for
      use as a last resort and then again, who is to determine the right moment as
      then it might be too damned late to do anything anyway ?????

      There is no substitute for action and not reaction. PATTON's creed is what
      made him so successful in WWII and proof of the issue is that ISRAEL's
      preemption in the SIX DAYS WAR is what gave it victory over all its enemies….

      Now, isn't it stupid to wait until the one poised to kill me acts ??
      Isn't it more in line to seek him out and blast him to kingdom comes before?

      The Iranian animals don't give a damn about their people nor does any of
      the Muslim "leaders", Hizbullah's NASRALLAH living in a bunker and so on

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        Whe has Israel not threatened any people with destruction?

        • stern

          When has Flopside ever made sense in a post?

          • UCSPanther

            Answer: Never.

    • sod

      Indeed 'Israel doesn't fear being attacked by a nuclear Iran' since Israel has ways to defend herself. But there is still a small chance the nuke will land on her land and the risk of losing half of her population from one nuclear strike form Iran.

      Actually Israel is doing her neighbors (Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi, etc.) and the world a very huge favor, that is, if she successfully intercept Iran's nuke, it will most likely cause huge damages to those Arab countries, since Iran sees Arabs as low lives, the fall out of radiation on those Arab countries is not an issue to Iran. But Israel treats those Arabs as cousins, therefore it's better to disarm the nukes before they have a chance to leave Iran.

      If one thinks the radiation dust won't flow over to the US via the jet stream, think again! If one thinks nothing bad will happen to him/her and doesn't want to be ready. He/She is living in a delusion, or a hallucination?

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        If Israel is doing the region a favor, it stands to reason that there is a line of supporter nations for Israel’s activity in the region.

    • ziontruth

      "Israel doesn't fear being attacked by a nuclear Iran. They fear losing their nuclear supremacy."

      70 years ago, you'd be among the ones who said Jews don't fear being massacred by the Nazis but feared losing their behind-the-scenes control of the world (q.v. the Protocols).

      Neo-Nazi anti-Zionist scum.

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        No. The fact is that the two points in history are unrelated, and Nazi Germany has no relevance to Israel’s current nuclear ambitions or belligerence. As an American, I have absolutely no feelings of guilt about this.

        • SpiritOf1683

          Your feeling of guilt is that Hitler didn't wipe every single Jew off the face of the earth before May 1945.

    • Ghostwriter

      Flipside,you constantly astound me with your idiocy. A-jad has repeatedly threatened Israel with destruction!!! How can the Israelis not take that seriously? Do you even think that once they're done with Israel that they won't come after Europe or the United States? Get your head out of the sand and face reality! The Iranian mullahs have repeatedly shown they don't deserve nuclear power or nuclear weapons! They are terrorists,period!

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        I don’t buy into the myth that Israel stands between the US and Islamic terrorism. AKA the “Israel as condom” theory.

        • SpiritOf1683

          And you wish nothing stood between the US and Islamic terrorism. Indeed on 9/111 nothing disd stand between the US and Islamic terrorism. Traitorous crackpots like yourself abet terrorists by hating the West.

    • Larry

      We know, people like you would rather wait until there is. Give Iran a nuclear bomb and a rocket to reach us and we will see if you still feel the same way.

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        You can’t scare me. I lived through the Cold War.

        • SpiritOf1683

          And you wanted the other side to win.

  • Bert

    The best part of the story is being overlooked. That is what Iran is preparing to do directly to America regardless of Israel. Iran is working on a missile designed to deliver an EMP nuclear weapon. This is a nuke designed to explode high above the U.S. and fry our computer circuits. Essential services would be gone in a flash with chaos, disease, hunger and starvation to follow in short order. We are not prepared and have failed to harden our electric grid. Iran is working with Chavez in Venezuela and also placing her ships in the Gulf of Mexico, closer to the U.S. where than can launch such a weapon. Add to this that large numbers of illegal reside in the U.S. including terrorists that we cannot locate and do not know what they are up to. The 9/11 Commission stated that our vulnerability was do in part of "a failure of imagination". We could not imagine what the enemy would do but they did not lack imagination. Iran recently tried to assassinate a Saudi diplomat in Washington and also attack the Israeli embassy. So far we have not responded. And we keep thinking that it is mainly about Israel.

    • Herman Caintonette

      And the evidence for this alleged attack is? Remember, this is the government which gave us the bogus Gulf of Tonkin attack and Saddam's potential "mushroom cloud," and almost gave us Operation Northwoods. I'm not buying.

      And IIRC, the Iranian Navy is all of four frigates, and the diameter of an EMP weapon is about 1,000 km. While we should use the money we spend supporting Israel on fortifying the grid, this appears to be a long-range and low-priority threat.

      When it comes to Iran, it really is all about Israel. Can't really hide that.

    • Rev. Roy Trepanier

      Great post, Bert.
      This posibility is way under-reported and under-rated. Remember, the Iranian Mullahs and Ahmadinejab want war…they want chaos to bring the return of their so-called 12 th Imam ( Mahdi). Thy have already publicly stated that they could afford to lose 1/3 of their 70 million or so population to israel's nukes and not even blink. GET REAL !! The world is planning their retirement investments while the Irananians are planning and plotting our demise. Allah demands Islamic domination of the WORLD. WAKE UP !
      For Herman also…..Herman, last fall the Iranians were caught testing the detonation of a missile at apogee..there is only one reason for doing that…EMP..and now they are in Cuba which really shortens the distance and reduces the size of the missile required. There will never be peace over there until the Prince of Peace returns (Acts 1 v 11), and if you listen closely, you can hear the hoofbeats….Time to call on Jesus Christ for your sternal salvation..Don't worry about Israel..The Gpd of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has been protecting them for 2,000 years and isn't about to stop now…..
      Rev. Roy….<><

  • Murray Schwartz

    The israelis and iranians should both smarten up.

    in fact the americans should just nuke the whole middle east region…. and start again…

    as it is, they're all more trouble than they're worth.

    • ziontruth

      "The israelis and iranians should both smarten up."

      Please. A suggestion to smarten up from somebody who's yet to develop his first functioning brain cell?

    • Shalom Freedman

      This is an inhumane remark. Think again Mr. Schwartz what it means to 'nuke' someone.

  • mrbean

    Bewtwenn the sand ni$ggers and the ni$#ggers they are ruining Paris. See for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eUF6AqTWck&fe

  • mrbean

    Beware of the Useful Idiots who live in liberal democracies – even in Israel. Knowingly or unknowingly, they serve as the greatest volunteer and effective soldiers of Islam
    Islam’s Useful Idiots. Islam enjoys a large and influential ally among non-Muslims: A new generation of “Useful Idiots,” that Lenin identified living in liberal democracies who furthered the work of communism. This new generation of Useful Idiots also live in liberal democracies, but serves the cause of Islamofascism—another virulent form of totalitarian ideology.

    Useful Idiots are naïve, they are foolish, they are ignorant of facts, they are unrealistically idealistic, they are dreamers and they are willfully in denial or deceptive

    • SpiritOf1683

      Islamofascism – 100 times worse than Communism, and 'useful idiots' – traitors of the worst kind.

  • BLJ

    The last time I checked Israel was surrounded by enemies who wish to destroy her. In 1981 they took out Saddam's nuke site and he was a lesser threat to them the Persians.

    A nuclear Iran is bad for everyone. Those bastards want one to use it, not to just join a club. I hope the Israeli's take them out and hard.

    I do agree their is an EMP threat,, but I also think our goverment is more prepared for something like this than we may think. At least I hope they are. (notwithstanding the moron in the WH).

  • Debanjan Banerjee

    Iranians will not attack Israel or the USA since they are smart enough to know that these countries at this present moment of history have got enough nuclear power to smash off Iran and the rest of the West Asia , multiple times.

    Iranians are an ancient race with brains sharpened by doing politics in the West and Central Asian region for the last 2 milleniums. They have seen off far more greater Western empires that USA and Israel like the Alexander's , the Romans , the Byzantines , The Mongols , the Czars and the British to understand when and where to fight.

    • ziontruth

      "Iranians will not attack Israel or the USA since they are smart enough… Iranians are an ancient race with brains…"

      As Iranians they have brains and are smart enough not to attack Israel. As Muslims, however, they shave off just about all of their brains and smarts in favor of serving the agenda of an Arab-centric religion. As Khomeini said, "Let Iran burn."

      The Persian nation is recorded and praised as a great nation in the Bible, and it can rise to further greatness, but in order to do so the Persians will have to leave the Arab religion.

  • Debanjan Banerjee

    Look the Iranians have been winning without firing a single shot throughout the last decade when the US (under Israeli pressure) took out Saddam and Taliban and handed over Iraq to Iran. Then Europe did Iran a favor by not letting Turkey in so Turkey started out to look independently to find a place for itself in the neighborhood and found Iran as a willing collaborator.

    Iran has all the aces at its hand at the momet. The Europe is tottering on the brink of collapse , the US is struggling with bankruptcy and fighting hard to preserve its integrity amidst a demographic decine of American exceptionalists , Israel losing her allies in Egypt and Turkey and increasingly Israeli allies in the US and Europe being called as anti-patriotic in those countries by influential intellectuals.

    So for Iran , the futute plan should be to just build its deterrence by collaborating increasingly with China and Russia , build up ties with Turkey and just wait till the rich , gulf Sheikhdoms start living the weak horse of the West one by one. So that is a long term game and that is how the Iranians will play it , I am sure. They surely will not try to play anything rash like attacking Israel.

    • stern

      Israel considers Iran to be the biggest threat. So why on earth would they have pressed the US to take out Saddam???? This verges on "Zionist plot" anti0-Semitism. Be careful.

  • Suzanne

    G_d bless Israel and may He protect her always and forever!

  • Mr Myxplyx

    What, no great intellectual pronouncement by that genius, herman Caintonette? No usual, pro-muslim, anti-Israeli, anti-west, anti-capitalist, third world blather? I'm shocked!!! Shocked!!!

    Gen. Curtis E. LeMay—Bomb them back to the stone age. Philosophically they're' already there.

    This is the best, most informative webite I've found. FPM tells you like it really is, not how the MSM wants to fool you into believing thier version of how it is.

    P.S. GOD bless America (& Israel, too)

    P.P.S. OBAMA— One Big A** Mistake America! Shalom.

  • crackerjack

    The latest "news" is that Israel has three ( 3) F16's, ready to confront Iran. These 3 F16's are "training" somewhere near Italy how to refule inflight.

    Bibi and Avigdor zero points. Iran ten points. LOL.

    • SpiritOf1683

      And Crackerjackass, a sub-imbecile I.Q.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Can the Israelis continue to live life under continuous threat and bomardment
    by Iranean surrogates, no it is not possible, eventually there will be a psychic
    break and action will be taken. Considering Israel's past record they may again
    leave enough of the cancer for it to return. Half measures can not continue
    forever and Israel must attain a solution and stop being the center of nervous
    neurosis in the World, half way around the globe I find myself grinding my
    teeth if frustration and anger over the Islamist perfidity and never ending evil.
    William

  • Flowerknife_us

    The problem Israel confronts comes from the UN never allowing them to obtain the moral high ground. While the bulk of the Media runs cover for the whole operation. By the time Israel does recieve any formal acceptance for their actions it is well beyond mattering.

    Israel needs to deal with each front against it independently. While not unifying all the other ones at the same time. The whole Idea is to keep Iran from being able to formally act.

    As for Syria- can they really fight themselves and the Israelis at the same time?
    Can the Egyptian Army afford a war while tettering on banckrupsy and starvation?

    Gaza, by its very nature, will always give a reason for Isreal to push them into Egypt.

    Sometimes the Teachers pet bully just needs a total whooping. Such actions tend to make others thing long and hard and gets Teachers fired.

    • SpiritOf1683

      The problem Israel confronts comes from the UN never allowing them to obtain the moral high ground.

      Not just the UN, but the whole of the Western media and politicians portray Israel in a negative light. Virulent antisemitism in the West didn't die with the surrender of Nazi Germany, it is flourishing every bit as much today in the West as it was during Hitler's time. Churchill nailed it when he said "The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-Fascists". Western Leftists call themselves anti-Fascists, but they are every bit as fascist and hostile to Jews as were any of Hitlers brownshirted SA thugs.

  • Shalom Freedman

    No one seems to really know what is going on. There also are reports that the U.S. Administration is seriously considering striking Iran. This would bring about massive retaliation on not the United States, but Israel.
    It may be too that one aim of the reports in Israel was to move the U.S. to pressure the Germans to cut their very extensive commercial ties with Iran.
    But all is speculation, troublesome speculation, I might add, now.

  • Lou

    It's high time for the U.S.A. to construct an adjunt United Nations of true Democracies right across the street from the existing U.N. structures and have all members as exlusive trading partners.Membership in the new U.N.T.D. would be restricted the only those countries who have clearly demonstrated that their institutions are reliably democratic in that they guarantee the Sovereinty of the individual, and safeguard human, property,and civil rights protected by the rule of law etc………Once established and functional, our financial support and participation in the current U.N. should be reduced to a token presence at best.