Will Israel Face Iran Alone?

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Adrian Blomfield, Jerusalem correspondent for Britain’s Telegraph, reports that “Israel has refused to reassure President Barack Obama that it would warn him in advance of any pre-emptive strike on Iran’s nuclear capabilities,” and that Obama “was rebuffed last month when he demanded” such a guarantee.

Blomfield says he has this dope from “insiders briefed on a top-secret meeting between America’s most senior defence chief and Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s hawkish prime minister….” He’s referring to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s visit to Israel last month, during which, in a “private meeting with Mr Netanyahu and the defence minister, Ehud Barak,” Panetta conveyed Obama’s “urgent” demand. Yet

the two Israelis were notably evasive in their response, according to sources both in Israel and the United States….

Alarmed by Mr Netanyahu’s noncommittal response, Mr Obama reportedly ordered the US intelligence services to step up monitoring of Israel to glean clues of its intentions.

The report meshes with Panetta’s not-so-veiled warning to Israel just before that visit to lay off Iran, and with his statement this week—albeit not explicitly directed at Israel—that an attack on Iran could have “unintended consequences…. It could have a serious impact in the region and it could have a serious impact on US forces in the region.”

The same message came through from Europe this week. French foreign minister Alain Juppe said an attack on Iranian’s nuclear facilities would “drag the world into an ‘uncontrollable spiral.’” In the wake of last week’s International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report on Iran’s nuclear progress—confirming all of Israel’s warnings over the years—EU foreign ministers “ruled out any military action for now.”

Juppe did say the EU would be “asking the European Investment Bank to freeze loans to Iran.” Meanwhile the EU foreign ministers “decided to wait till their next meeting on Dec 1., before taking further action.”

It somehow doesn’t have that ring of urgency.

And yet, as The Telegraph’s Blomfield also notes, “many in [Israel] believe time is running out.”

Blomfield quotes Ephraim Asculai, former IAEA official and an Israeli expert on Iran’s nuclear program, saying that “if the Iranian regime decides to do so, it can produce a nuclear explosive device within a year, plus or minus a few months.” There are also warnings that Iran could soon be transferring most of its nuclear production under a mountain near Qom, making it much harder—or impossible—to bomb from the air.

Is Israel, then, facing the threat essentially alone? If so, it would hardly be unprecedented. There’s an inglorious history of the United States and Europe leaving Israel to fend for itself against threats, sometimes even existential ones.

It happened in Israel’s 1948-1949 War for Independence, when it found itself embargoed by the West (with Britain aiding the Arab side) and had to turn to the Soviet bloc for arms. Just before the 1967 Six Day War, Israel’s “ally” France slapped an arms embargo on the region that was mainly aimed at Israel.

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  • Hank Rearden

    I don't think there is any need to worry. Our NIE of 2007 said that Iran stopped its work on nuclear weapons back on 2003. What more do you need?

    • aspacia

      Right, and they also claimed I am the Easter Bunny.

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        You’re a nonjewish Zionist feminist. You might as well be an Easter Bunny too.

        • ziontruth

          How is being a non-Jew and feminist in contradiction to standing with Israel? If you really want a contradiction, try those "Queers for Palestine," supporters of the Hamas gay-killers over the one and only country in the Middle East where gays are allowed to live. (I'm not pro-gay, I'm condemning the Leftists for hypocrisy here.)

          • Mitt Romney

            Get that last disclaimer in there just in case anyone starts talking!

    • ObamaYoMoma

      The latest IAEA report clearly demonstrated that the 2007 NIE was completely bogus and political as we already new.

    • John of Chaldea

      Right, and Hitler said, after taking the Sudenenland from Czechoslovakia, that this would be his last territorial demand. James Clapper issued that report, and he is a total moron, who ought to be fired.

  • John

    who is a mad man? Ahmadinejad who will be out of picture in one year or this Natanyahoo who is not only a mad man but a lier( per French president) whom Obama can not stand either. Israel must be stopped and their AIPAC spies in America who have taken America hostage and these republican candidate clowns for a AIPAC selection of them for presidency even are willing to die for israel. shame on them all. the world is such a fed up place now. instead of questioning israel which has been nothing but a cancer cell and hostage holder of America, France and Britain, now wants to start a ww3 and put everyone in danger. shame of you all morons.

    • aspacia

      Another conspiracy theory, Judeophobic troll lands.

      Your claim has zero VALID SUPPORT. This is all bs, like Michael Moore's bs propaganda.

      Oh, it is liar not lier.

      • RobGinChicago

        Apparently, they don't teach spelling or grammar at the madrassah.

        • aspacia

          District tells teachers not to worry about spelling or grammar as well! Regardless, I do:-)

    • ziontruth

      "…Natanyahoo who is not only a mad man but a lier( per French president) whom Obama can not stand either."

      Yep. Get the truth from the French president and judge a man according as Egobama likes him. Comedy gold!

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Yeah right the Jews are demons and the world is the Jew's puppets on a string. Whoever let you out of your straightjacket should be sued.

    • John of Chaldea

      Another Nazi wannabe. To hell with Iran. Curtis E Lemay says" Nuke 'em til they GLOW". Turn iran into one big parking lot. and get The Sunni Arabs led by Saudi Arabia & Qatar to pay for it all.

    • Ghostwriter

      Not another anti-semitic loon! Where do you people come from?

  • elle

    it is the u.s to be held responsible for an israeli attack on Iran,
    it is the fault of the u.s getting involved in Iran's politics in electing the shah
    thats why they had their revolution and the mullas are in power.
    and this is why there is this hatred for the west in Iran,Israel never had any
    problems with Iran,its Iran that threatens Israel's existence ,cant blame Israel for defending
    itself.the choice of high gas price or getting your country blown up should be a no brainer
    even to john the anti-Semite.

    • aspacia

      Actually, it was the Shah's father who was put on the Persian throne after Operation Ajax.

    • umustbkiddidng

      Um, they are playing for all the marbles here. They don't give a hoot about Israel but they know that they will have support from the radical Muslim sect that is on the move in the middle east.

      How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. World domination. We fool ourselves thinking that it is impossible. Look at how our own country is handling the Muslim issue.

    • Adam

      elle- Where the heck were you in the 70's? I guess you would have had the forsight to see into the future and make a decision that would at the time defy logic. Hind sight is always 20/20, but when you leave out about 30 years worth of events, it gets a bit fuzzy. When we aided them in the over throw of the Shah, there was about 30 years of a quiet peaceful Iran who kept to themselves. The Ahmedenijad came along because we had 8 years of a President who did nothing but a plump intern. It's like a car, you need to change the oil every 3,000 miles, not just after the first 3,000 miles.

  • SHmuelHaLevi

    Lets see if we can provide some reference points to those not targetted by Iran's islamic monsters with nuclear weapons.
    Iran has offically informed one and all that it its POLICY to work on WMD's to destroy Eretz Israel and Jews. Using nuclear weapons if available to them
    Israel has never threatened any country with destruction… so far.
    Should Iran or anyone else, anyone else… adopt activities showing immediate intentions to make or buy nuclear weapons, Israel will understand that being causus beli.
    No discusions or clarifications required.
    Iran's aquiscition of nuclear weapons will result on the total destruction of their regime and nuclear technology. Lock, stock and barrel.
    Hezbollah is welcome to keep itself quiet or if they wish, follow on Iran's foot steps.
    The same applies to the murdering beasts in Damascus.
    Certainly Israel will be damaged but those are the terms and conditions at hand.
    No one should err… not in the least.

  • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

    I guess we just don’t understand here in the rest of the world. Because of the Holocaust it makes sense to start WWIII and further mess up the world economy. We just lack the unique, ineffable Jewish Experience to put this all in perspective.

    • ziontruth

      You're right. It reminds me of the police hunting down rapists and filling the prisons with them. Why can't those girls dress less seductively? /sarc

      You and Herm the Germ are cut from the same treasonous cloth: The cloth of blaming your own side for the enemy's aggression, and calling for appeasement. To add to the irony, your disrespect toward the Muslims is staggering: Instead of respecting them as human beings possessing free will—which, inevitably, includes the free will to be evil imperialist aggressors—you construe them as mindless automatons only reacting to "provocations" on the part of the U.S., the West and Israel. Show some respect!

      • jacob

        I profess to be an ISLAMOPHOBE and can't feel any respect at all for
        people to whom any dissent to what is written in their "Holy" KORAN
        and comments is considered blasphemy and punished by death….

        It is your privilege to consider them humam beings but, as long as they
        abide by such principles, to me they are worst than beasts..
        If my refusal to be beheaded because I'm an infidel and worse yet, because
        I'm a Jew and the rock or tree behind which I'm hiding will tell the Muslim
        hunting me to come kill me, yes, I'm a convicted and confessed

        • Teq

          Since you came out of the closet, I'm coming out too. I am a Catholic and I am an ISLAMOPHOBE. i wasn't born one but I sure became one.

          (Feels good to come out…)

      • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

        1) You’re crazy.
        2) You are accusing me of treason.
        3) We are not having a court martial.

  • 1minuteman

    if we were israel we would have hit iran already. i am tired of obama telling israel what to do when he despises israel. it is obama's lack of action on iran that has put the region on the edge of almost a world war.

    • notme

      one of the worst mistakes of a millennia may be Obama's not supporting the Green Movement in Iran when the chance was there to create a wave through them that would have toppled the regime. It cannot be said for certain what would have transpired if that regime were gone, but it is much more likely we would not have this horrendous, world-changing situation now.

  • umustbkidding

    Why would Israel trust this Muslim President? Pres Zero just named Australia our closed ally????

    I guess other nations are just expecting Israel to go out without a whimper.

  • StephenD

    IF Israel can just hang on. With Gingrich as President they may have a viable ally in office. Iran leadership is going to destroy their own people in some "Holy Grail" quest in which they believe they are prophesized as being the ones to usher in the 12th Imam to lead the Islamic world's rule over the planet. Having the streets run with blood doesn't bother them at all. They in fact, long for it. With this fact in mind there may be no option but to turn Iran into glass. As sad as that would be for all the innocent Iranians. So, first we attempt all else.; Covert Ops, revolution from within, international pressure from without, etc. Failing that, take them out.

    • ziontruth

      "IF Israel can just hang on. With Gingrich as President they may have a viable ally in office."

      After the Holocaust, many Jews have vowed never to entrust their security to any other nation.

      • StephenD

        Understood. I still hope it doesn't come down to that though. At least until there is someone in office here that is willing to help.

  • Marty

    Israel always assumes that it is on its own and that is for the best. We should assume that Israel will deal with iran and accept the dire consequences while cowards such as the sauds and europeans will be quietly thankful to Israel even as they condemn the action.

  • FriendofGaryCooper

    If the British had sent an expeditionary force to France in August, 1939, and had stationed this force in Alsace-Lorraine, close to the German border, would Hitler have invaded Poland in September? Unlikely. Although Israel's situation vis-a-vis Iran is different than this WWII scenario; the idea that a pre-emptive strike might well result in avoiding a cataclysmic war is to be considered. First, Israel is already a pariah among the world's nations–and THAT isn't going to get any better by waiting. Second, if Israel hits Iran, significantly reducing Iranian nuclear capability; Gaza's Palestinians would most likely stay out of it. Israel would have to fight Hezbollah along the Lebanese border, and possibly Egypt. Such a scenario is within Israel's military capability, since Egypt's domestic situation is now chaotic,, and her military isn't presently capable of a sustained war. If Iran is very close to nuclear capability, Israel is very justifed in striking—soon.

  • FriendofGaryCooper

    …and yes, the price of oil might skyrocket; but if Iran's nuclear capability is significantly reduced, or destroyed; the free world will breathe easier, and who knows? Israel's stock might rise in some quarters, for a change.

  • John of Chaldea

    To FriendofGaryCooper; you are right! And, the price of freedom is blood; the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. To all you libtards, multiculti third wordlers, Herman Caintonette and all of you bigoted anti-semites & jihadist scum; I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees like you cowards. And you are all cowards. America is the greatest country in history!!! It is the least racist, least sexist, least bigoted country in the universe. America is worth fighting for, Nazism, fascism, communism & Islamism is for cowards, bigots & lazy bums (like Herman Caintonette, who probably collects a government check).

    • guest

      you said it so well !!
      totally support israel and decision to get rid of nucs in IRAN
      thanks for such great paragraph John.

  • Bert

    If America and the west offered no help to Israel that would actually be a blessing. History shows that in every instance since WWII the west supported the Arabs and acted to undermine Israel's ability to defend itself. Today is no different.
    The Torah states clearly that Israel is a nation that dwells alone and also that those who curse Israel will be cursed in turn. Another bible theme is that every person and every nation is tested and then comes the verdict just as with the Pharaoh in Exodus.
    This time the stakes are globally humongous and the period of testing is very long and painful. When the verdict finally comes in on those evil nations it will be proportionate to their sins. The bible advocates that the punishment fit the crime. Therefore this time the punishment will be truly historic.
    The evil nations are betting that they will destroy Israel and will survive. They have placed their bets and now there is no turning back.

  • xlent

    Israel is not "alone" never has been never will be. The same God which established her wil see his plan to utter completion.

  • Adam

    This just gets scarier and scarier. Basic simple common sense says if you wait on this nothing good will happen. It's almost if the Western Governments are purposely trying to stall Israel for the sake of buying Iran more time. I just can't believe the US government would allow this to happen.

  • Ghostwriter

    For John,Flipside,and Herman Caintonette,nothing Israel does will be good enough except letting Iran wipe it off the face of the Earth. I doubt the Israelis are going to let that happen.

    • http://www.contextflexed.com Flipside

      Actually, coward and liar, I support the existence of Israel.

    • Noreen

      I doubt GOD is going to let that happen….

  • BLJ

    Akmandoofus is not calling the shots in Iran. It is his diaper head gear elders. These "gentlemen" have made no doubt that they wish to destroy Israel.

    Israel has showed remarkable restraint over the years in the face of all of their enemies. Of course they are still condemned by the Jew haters in the world. The Islamists are just another version of the Nazi's.

    I guess it will take a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv to ever convince the simpletons in the West that Iran wants nukes for just this. They wish death upon those who oppose them.

    Israel has every right to use whatever force is necessary to protect itself. There was a time when the U.S. would be right by their side. Now that we have a traitor in the WH I am afraid those days are over for now.

    If anyone believes in God I suggest your knees hit the floor tonight and say a prayer not only for Israel but America.

  • Asher

    Something should have been done a year ago. The US should have teamed up with Israel and taken out Iran's capabilities, but now we have a President who would never use force on Iran…If Bush were still in office, the Nukes would be disabled.

  • effemall

    Israel's worst enemies are left wing Israelis who will never learn from the past and will always try to rationalize in the name of peace. Their cousins in the U.S. helped bring in Obama. Yes, there could be upsetting consequences if Israel hits Iran, perhaps $500 a barrel for oil and that might shake up the ineffective leadership of most countries. Remember the greatest books in history were written by candlelight. The world as it is sucks anyway. I hope the hawks in Israel win and the DO IT as they did it at Entebbe. And if Hezbollah and/or Hamas get smart, I hope they save a couple of smaller nukes for them, too. It would begin to make up for 9/11.

  • http://shadowedforest.blogspot.com William deB. Mills

    Would defeating Iran help Israel?

    Many have pointed out in Israel and abroad that the immediate outcome of an Israeli attack would be uncertain, but what about the longer term situation? Even a "perfect" victory would lead to an endless array of negative shifts in Israel's strategic situation, very possibly including the unification of all Iranians under leadership determined to get revenge, the empowerment of al Qua'ida, and the emergence of Moqtada al Sadr as leader of Iraq. And that would be after the best military victory Israel could possibly hope to achieve. [Details – http://mwcnews.net/focus/editorial/14867-defeatin

    • doctortruth

      In response to all the above comments; take heed, if the world does not standby Israel the nuclear fallout from Iranian nukes will change life on earth as we know it. Point Finale. The Jews and their nation of Israel are G..d’s people and carry with them G..d’s message. He will unleash his wrath upon all the nations of the world if they rise against Israel. Inaction and allowing Israel to be attacked with nuclear holocaust will come back to haunt haunt the world that allowed it to happen. All the scenerio’s have been stated in the above responses. A stand “WITH” Israel to stop any regime trying to destroy it will bring peace and prosperity to the world. On one level it appears that all the issues are complex but beneath all the war game scenerio’s the answer so quite simple. Support Israel and live in peasce and prosperity as per G..d’s message scince recorded time or rise up against them and be destroyed… This is a test for humanity…Take heed!

  • Each and every

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  • Dr. Chester Katz

    Israel can solve the entire mid east problem. It's simple, deliver to Iran the nuclear weapons it wants on the tips of 20 Jericho IRBMs.

  • anonymous

    So what you're saying is that Israel should do nothing and face a nuclear Iran on its own , a country whose president publicly and numerously wants Israel obliterated off the face off the world. Who cares if another 6 million Jews and 1.7 million Arabs die. Because G-d forbid oil goes higher .
    A nuclear Iran will be a global menace and all Arab countries will bow to their new bully leader . With Israel attacked most likely with the help of some gaza or west bank martyr strapped to a nuclear device , the world will rejoice, no doubt.
    Israel will retaliate with nukes, millions more will die, oil goes to $500 . World economies collapse, europe and usa get involved, conflict intensifies, all arab countries rally to help, WWIII starts.

    I think the only scenario is to stop using Arab oil period, switch the world economy to hydrogen, electric , solar or any combination of the these and then the world will not be held hostage by Arab countries and their oil.

    Disarm Iran of any nuclear ambitions by any means possible and stop hating on Israel, a tiny democratic country, whose only goal is peace with its neighbors who want it to be obliterated off the map and tried on several occasions to do so already.

  • aspacia

    You might want to peruse Debka and this link: http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Iran uses its small navy and on-shore artillery to close the Persian Gulf. The US Navy intervenes, but Iran's extensive use of mines makes an early resumption of shipping impossible. Oil sky-rockets above $200 a barrel (perhaps above $300).

    If that happens, it won't be Israel's fault; it will be the Bush and Obama administration's fault for attempting to appease Iran all these many years, while at the same time ignoring its national security responsibilities it should have already anticipated.

    Although, like a liberal you are deliberately over exaggerating, yes that temporary alternative is still far better than an Iran armed with nuclear weapons and an Islamic world, with an imperative to make Islam supreme, as a result also armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. As those nuclear weapons are already sitting in Pakistan in anticipation waiting to be distributed thanks to the Saudis. Indeed, an Islamic world armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons will inevitably become far more belligerent and aggressive.

    In the aftermath, Israel will be demonized like never before, becoming a true pariah, with not only the Afro-Asian bloc, but European countries boycotting the Jewish State both diplomatically and economically.

    It's already demonized and a true pariah and economically boycotted. Anyway, I support Israel doing what it deems it must do to ensure its national security and survival, even using nukes. Perhaps Israel should privately threaten to use nukes to force the US and Europe's hands, and I'm also not adverse the the US and Europe using nukes to stop Iran.

  • umustbkidding

    Talk is cheap and does nothing to stop a zealot.

  • yossibarnegev

    You are correct in your assessment, but you needed to add #6) Jews around the world will come under greater threat of attacks verbally and physically. One only has to observe how Jew haters responded to Israel's Operation Cast Lead. This will be M-U-C-H worse. You can take it to the bank, sorry to say.

  • intrcptr2

    This is the one point of which I am certain.

    The Prophet Jeremiah as much as predicts another Holocaust-like persecution, right here in the US. It will indeed be a renewed global pogrom, but given the number of Jews here, along with psuedo-christians, atheists, Muslims, and, I must say it, Catholics, it will be far worse here than even in Europe.

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