A Badly Invented People

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In the post-news environment, media no longer exists to report, it exists to disseminate glib talking points that sound good at first, but don’t stand up to examination. Fact checks, one of the latest media gimmicks, have become another vector for disseminating talking points. So have media blogs which began repeating the same ridiculous thing over and over again.

Take the response to Gingrich’s accurate statement that the Palestinian Arabs are an invented people. Aside from all the hysterical “sky is falling” nonsense, is the comparison between the Americans as an invented people and the Palestinian Arabs.

Let’s look at how wrong this is and in how many ways. To begin with the American colonies did not demand their independence based on some spurious ancient history. If they had then Washington would have dressed himself up as an Indian and instead of the United States of America, there would have been the Indian States of Iroquisville.

Americans are not a self-invented people, they are a self-evolved people. The American revolution was a struggle between a colony and the mother country that ended in a break and the creation of a new country that still used the language and much of the culture of the mother country, but at the same time the colonies had been slowly evolving their own unique identity.

The “Palestinian” Arabs on the other hand are an invented people, and not even a self-invented people. That dubious honor fell to some comrades in Moscow and the Arab nations who found it convenient to have terrorist militias that could launch attacks across the border, supposedly on their own initiative, but in reality answering to them.

Their whole claim to a state is the bizarre insistence that they are the region’s original inhabitants who were driven out by the actual original inhabitants, the Jews. When they are actually the descendants of the Muslim conquerors who drove out or subjugated the native inhabitants. It’s as if George Washington had not only put on an Indian costume but began claiming that his ancestors were there for thousands of years before the Cherokees drove them out.

Palestinian identity is just so much gibberish. The official definition of that identity encompasses only those parts of the Palestine Mandate which Israel holds today.

The people who live on the parts of the Palestine Mandate that were turned into the Kingdom of Jordan in 1921 are not Palestinians. There is no call to incorporate them into a Palestinian state. The people who lived in the parts of Israel that were captured by Jordan and Egypt in 1948 weren’t Palestinians, and there was no call to turn the land that today comprises the so-called “Occupied Territories” into a state. But in 1967 when Israel liberated those areas– only then did they magically turn into Palestinians.

How is anyone supposed to take this nonsense seriously?

Suppose I were to tell you that there were an ancient people known as the Floridians whose land was seized from them to make resort hotels and orange groves. What would be your first clue that there was something wrong here? Florida is a Spanish name meaning flower. Palestine, which is a Latin name applied by its ancient conquerors, derived from the Greek, has the same problem.

When the Jews rebuilt their country, they did not call it Palestine, that was the name used by European powers. They called it Israel. The local Arabs who had come with the wave of conquests that toppled Byzantine rule had no such history and no name for themselves. Instead they took the Latin name used by the European powers and began pretending that it was some ancient tribal identity, rather than a regional name that was used by the European powers to describe local Jews and Arabs.

Even Arab place names invariably lack historicity. The Arab name for Jerusalem is Al-Quds or the holy city. It’s a little like calling New York, Big City and pretending that it means you saw it first, when it actually means that you saw it last and are piggybacking on its existing identity.

The Arabic for Hebron is a translation of the Hebrew. The same goes for Bethlehem. Ah but what about Nablus? The Jews may call it Shechem, but the Arabs have a unique name for it. Surely Nablus is part of the great and ancient Palestinian heritage. Not a chance. Nablus isn’t Arabic, it’s the Arabic mispronunciation of Neapolis, which if you happen to know Latin means “New City”.

Nablus has the same relationship to Neapolis, as Filistin does to Palestine, it’s the Arabic mispronunciation of the Latin. The name “Nablus” is every bit as regionally authentic as Naples, in Italy or Florida, which has the same meaning.

But what of the “Occupied Territories”? The Jews call them Judea and Samaria. The Arabs call them ad-difa’a al-gharbiya or the West Bank. Nothing says ancient history like bluntly descriptive names. But what of Ramallah, capital of the Palestinian Authority, that at least is an Arabic name. And that’s true. It is an Arabic name. A name almost as ancient as the city which dates back to the 16th century when a group of Christian Arabs crossed over from what is today Jordan fleeing Muslim persecution. Under Jordanian rule, Ramallah was overrun by Muslims and today it has a Muslim majority.

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  • crackerjack

    The great genocide of the native American's ( an invented name), began under the directive of the US goverment.

    To be consequent, Jews who demand that the world accepts their mythical rights to a god given land occupied during the bronze age must return any property they hold in land colonized by Europeans to it's rightfull owners. You can't have it both ways.

    • elixelx

      So do the Danes and the Saxons return the Gelt they stole from Wessex? Perhaps the Romans should return what they looted from Britain, Gaul and everywhere else they could lay their rapacious hands. How about the Saudis returning the Kaaba to the Al-Qureishe clan of the Jews from whom they stole it at the point of a sword?. Finally, and most tragically, would the Muslims in Baghdad, Syria and the Maghreb please return the keys to the houses they ripped off from my family just three generations ago?
      What a purile shallow piece of Flubber you present as argument cracker!

    • elixelx

      Oh, and one more thing: We CAN have it both ways; we DO have it both ways; and soon enough, when the world acknowledges the faux-nature of a Faux-people–the so-called Palestinians–we shall have it as we like it…
      Who's going to stop it? You perhaps. Leave your cracker country and come wear the Keffiyeh and fight with your Paletinian brethren here in the Holy Land?
      Don't forget to pack a howitzer!

    • ziontruth

      "To be consequent, Jews who demand that the world accepts…"

      The Jewish right to exclusive political sovereignty on the entire Land of Israel is not contingent on the acceptance of the world.

    • tagalog

      "Native Americans" is a name invented by the politically correct, who find the invented name "Indians," originally used because Columbus and his successor explorers thought North America was India, unpalatable for some reason. Indians, by the way, seem to be fine with being called "Indians" by non-Indians.

      As one whose first American ancestors arrived in America on the Mayflower, I consider myself a Native American (my heritage, to be clear, is English and Scots), and I defy anyone to prove that I'm not. What I am not is an "aboriginal American," a term the politically correct bridle at, although it's much more accurate than "Native American."

      The so-called "genocide" of the American Indian most assuredly did NOT start under the directive of the U.S. government. The policy of the United States government, from 1789 onward, was to protect the American Indian from genocidal slaughter brought on them by American citizens acting individually. You can argue that the U.S. government was unjust and unfair, which it was, but you can't say the U.S. government followed a genocidal policy. It did not.

    • tagalog

      Why must Jews restore land that was occupied by Europeans during the Bronze Age? First of all, there WAS no Europe in the Bronze Age. Jews not only occupied the Holy Land 3,000 years ago, they ruled it as a Jewish state until after Christ.

      I would like Islam to give back to Christianity the lands they conquered. Or, one could simply adopt the general rule that land successfully taken in war or defended from warring aggression belongs to the people who successfully took it or held it.

    • pagegl

      So, using your logic, Muslims must return Egypt to the Copts, Persia to the Zoroastrians, Turkey to the Eastern Orthodox Christians, Pakistan to Hindus, and so on. Jews have much more of a historical right to Judea than do the Muslims to any part of the world outside of parts of Saudi Arabia. To use your words, you can't have it both ways.

      • tagalog

        The part of Turkey that is Anatolia, along with Armenia, was Roman Catholic. Much of it still is.

        Pakistan was carved out of India after World War II for the Muslims to have a homeland. Later, Bangladesh was invented out of Bengal. What nerve they have to continue to live in that land as if it is theirs; their presence there is imposed on the natives in an invented state (well, except that there never WAS a Pakistan the way there was an Israel with a long history of Jewish occupation and rule). Why, Pakistan is JUST LIKE Israel, except with Muslims instead of Jews.

        Iraq is, of course, an invented state too, part of the division of the Middle East after World War I by the British Empire, the United States, and France. So were Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia while they existed.

        • ziontruth

          "Why, Pakistan is JUST LIKE Israel, except with Muslims instead of Jews."

          No, Israel is like India. Pakistan is like the Phakestinian Authority and the Gaza Hamastan.

          India seems to have made the same couple of mistakes as Israel: 1) Consenting to an enemy Islamic state on its borders; 2) Agreeing to the residence of Muslims within its own territory (India, Israel's pre-1967 territories) even after the establishment of said enemy state on its borders.

          • tagalog

            The Muslim conquerors of the Holy Land, which existed as a Jewish state for two thousand or more years, and which was also occupied by Christians for 700 years before the rise of Islam, should surrender the Holy Land in its entirety to the Christians and Jews, including Lebanon and Syria as well as Jordan.

    • John of Chaldea

      Jews won their land the old fashioned way, in war. Just as in the previous 1400 years where the followers of a caravan raiding, misogynistic, pedophile conquered many lands, the jews conquered what was known as palestine.
      P.S. There is a "palestinian" homeland—it's called 'Jordan", which the Hashemites stole from the arab inhabitants. Why don't Russia & China give back the land they stole after WW2?

  • Anamah

    Daniel your article is so revealing! Arabs Nazis shared German methodology to install their myth…. which continue today as a successful practice to turn tales into facts to little educated people believe of been true.. Oriana Fallacci discovered Yasser Arafat real business. He was an Egyptian who became head of an organized mafia of extortion, terrorism and arms smuggling. But the notable thing was his new creative global hoax, falsely accusing Israel as occupier and victimizer. He created his mega global scam in the billions making victims of his Arabs arriving in a hurry from other countries.(renamed then as "Palestinian" + "refugees"… despite both terms were absolutely fabricated.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~enjolras/site/?/home/ Underzog

    In addition to the big lie, the Arabs employ the "big murder" to give them the illusion of legitimacy in Eretz Yisrael.

    The Arabs murder so passionately so their claims to Israel must be true. The big murder is the big lie on steroids.

    If anyone watches Brett Baer's "Special Report" on Fox News, one would see Dr. Krauthammer criticizing Newt Gingrich on the fakestinians with language worthy of Pat Buchanan. Lies and murder do not establish legitimacy; they help do the opposite!

  • Almarri

    Yasir Arafat..homosexual pervert and thief. He was recorded by Romanian State Security during one of his orgies whilst on a visit to Romania way back in the 70's and 80's. No one is supposed to mention this or the fact that he swindled millions from money given to the Palestinians by various governments, including the EU and the US. Now a national hero..whats the world coming too?

    • TheThinMan

      you have to ask?

  • Freedomwatch

    Referenced the above post and especially that of Almarri, "Hell in a hand-basket" comes to mind 'tho I have yet to clearly understand that expression. Al Ba-bah and his 40 thieves has been replaced by a growing multitude of freeloading terrorist who seek to destroy any and all who impede their greedy quest to "confiscate" the fruits of the labor of all other; fruits that they were to lazy and ignorant to produce.

  • StephenD

    “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

    Its funny that some would argue for the “Palestinians” by way of saying America is of an “invented people.”

    “Why are you stopping me mommy? He did it too.”

    I guess if you can’t refute the facts the next best thing is to say this isn’t the first instance; as if 2 wrongs make a right.

    Frankly, I don’t care what happens to them. They should have done right by the people from the beginning and assimilated into their countries of origin (Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria). Regardless, I don’t want another nickel of our tax dollars going to them. To think, they could have been prospering all along by just getting along with Israel and sharing in her way of life instead of this culture of death at the behest of others.

  • muchiboy

    The arrogance of this writer and those who support his position is both pathetic and horrendous.From what I can gather the blogger is an Israeli born Jew.Surprise,Surprise.Still,this tripe originating from the minds and hands of Jews is somewhat perplexing,and certainly ironic,even tragic,considering their both stellar contributions to mankind's journey through time and civilization and their unparalleled persecution throughout the ages.It reeks of shameful and unconscionable denial.But then,who can blame Jews for trying their best or worst to deny such criminal acts against the Palestinian people and humanity e.g.ethnic cleansing.The wonder of it all is the failure of such a brilliant and otherwise unsullied people to recognize their very own "inventedness" in light of the centuries long assimilation of the Diaspora.Furthermore,the re-invented (Zionist) state of Israel is a real example of a "badly invented state".

    • ziontruth

      "The arrogance of this writer and those who support his position is both pathetic and horrendous."

      Translation: I can't find anything substantial to refute his position.

      "From what I can gather the blogger is an Israeli born Jew.Surprise,Surprise."

      And you have, by your own admission, an Arab grandfather. Surprise, surprise.

      "Still,this tripe originating from the minds and hands of Jews is somewhat perplexing,and certainly ironic,even tragic,considering their both stellar contributions to mankind's journey through time and civilization and their unparalleled persecution throughout the ages."

      Translation: I like my Jews meek and defenseless in the face of those who want to kill them; this scene of armed Jews with a state defending themselves simply won't do.

      "…who can blame Jews for trying their best or worst to deny such criminal acts against the Palestinian people and humanity e.g.ethnic cleansing."

      It is no crime for the Jews, the only true Palestinians, to expel from their one and only land in the world all the Arab settler-colonist land-thieves squatting on it. The only lamentable thing is it so far hasn't been done thoroughly, if at all.

      "The wonder of it all is the failure of such a brilliant and otherwise unsullied people…"

      If the "crime of ethnic cleansing" "sullies" the Jewish nation, then we've been sullied since the days of Joshua. Alternatively, one might leave the false, Marxist-inspired idea that ethnic cleansing is not a Jewish value. It most certainly is. Judaism, unlike Islam, is not imperialism, and does not covet any land other than Palestine; however, pacifism is as opposed to Jewish values as imperialism.

      "…their very own 'inventedness' in light of the centuries long assimilation of the Diaspora."

      The Jewish nation goes back almost 3000 years and has not assimilated in the Diaspora except for a few wayward Jewish individuals. As for the racial disparity among various Jews, this is because Jewishness is not based on race—it accepts sincere converts from any race.

      "Furthermore,the re-invented (Zionist) state of Israel is a real example of a 'badly invented state'."

      Au contraire, it was one of the very few good things the United Nations ever did. But it is not for you to judge the Jews and their state; above the level of the nation, God is the only judge, and all nations are judged. Anti-Zionists, you will pay.

      • muchiboy

        "Translation: I can't find anything substantial to refute his position."
        Not something I need necessarily apologise for,ziontruth.We can argue legalities,history,victories and defeats, precedents,etc. but mostly I see this as a moral/ethical act on the part of Zionist/Jews with Palestinian victimization.I concede that the moral high ground here maybe somewhat difficult for the Zionist to visualize considering their lower and inferior moral position.Really,we all have a long way (morally) to go before our world is a just world.While I disagree with your position here I accept that we are more or less the same in terms of the moral universe we occupy and that solutions are best found using reason and compromise while respecting common ,universally held ideals and respect for human rights. With respect,muchiboy

        • Stephen_Brady

          Muchiboy, you want the world to be just, and I want the world to be just. The only difference between us is WHO will decide what is just. I strongly suspect that … when and if it happens … as Arab armies ravage through Israel, killing Jews in their millions, you would look on approvingly and say, "This is just."

          Of course, I could be wrong. You could stand by and say, "How terrible!" This would make you feel good about yourself, I am sure.

      • Roco

        So you end your little "rebuttal by saying "my god is better than your god" and making a blanket threat against every people of the world who oppose YOUR view?
        As for 3000 years of nation I say so what. Lots of nations go back a very long ways and don't have a state. For example the Basque go back to at least pre-Roman times should they get a state?
        If longevity in a region is all that counts according to some Zionist supremacists the Palestinians are descended from the Philistines. This is to make them sound like eternal bad guys but it also – by their own ravings – indicate they have lived in the region for thousands of years and should have a state then.

        • ziontruth

          "…by saying 'my god is better than your god'…"

          Not what I said, but so be it. God does not require that non-Jews love the Jews or support their nation-state; what the anti-Zionists and other Jew-haters are going to pay for is their active hostility against us.

          You could just be neutral. You could say "A pox on both houses" and be done. But no, you have to side with our enemies. Very well, then: For that, anti-Zionists, you will pay.

          "For example the Basque go back to at least pre-Roman times should they get a state?"

          I have no opinion one way or the other. I consider the Basque issue to be absolutely none of my business, you see. Exactly how I wish people related to the issue of Israel. Mind your own frackin' business, that's all I'm asking. Not for your support, not for your friendship, just for unpoking your noses out of this affair.

          "…the Palestinians are descended from the Philistines."

          No, the Arab settler-colonists in Palestine are descended from… Arabs. Bedouins from the Arabian desert. If they have mingled with non-Arab inhabitants of post-Roman Palestine, that's irrelevant, because they have nothing in the way of uniquely Palestinian culture, language or genetics to tie them to the older inhabitants of the land. Apart from the Jews, none but the Samaritans can make a valid claim.

          I close by reiterating: All this is none of your business.

          • Roco

            It is my business when my government gives the Israeli government weapons and diplomatic cover so they can kill, kill, kill a captive population. The Palestinians are almost like a modern take on the Helots. A captive people subject to attack and other outrages at their overseers discretion.
            Also I way to dodge my comment wasn't just about the Basques. It was something called an example. Their are many peoples with ancient claims to their corner of the world what makes one worthy in your mind over the others? Sky daddy told you?
            As for "valid claim" who the hell made you the arbiter of that? What is the time frame needed to lay claim to something? I want a precise number.

          • Ghostwriter

            Your favorite book must be "Mein Kampf,"isn't it?

          • Roco

            That's it? That's all you have an ad holmium attack completely unrelated to anything I've posted.

            So what would indicate I'm a fascist? My opposition to the abuse of a people? My opposition to militarism and police state policies? My distaste for ignorance and bigotry?

            Which of these traits do you hate so and why? Do they expose your own defects and failings?

          • Advocatus

            Roco, I would love for you to address the specific points of the article rather than go off on tangents of evil Zionists this, evil Zionists that.

            So you're opposing "militarism and police state policies"? That's wonderful to hear. I am sure you are a staunch opponent of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood and all other oppressive regimes across the Middle East.

            As for ignorance and bigotry, you seem to display both abundantly so I wonder why you have a distaste for them,

          • ziontruth

            "It is my business when my government gives the Israeli government weapons…"

            So all the U.S. has to do is withdraw aid and then everything going on in Palestine will be met with indifference on your part? If the answer to that question is "yes" then we are agreed and can leave our arguments in peace.

            "A captive people subject to attack and other outrages at their overseers discretion."

            I oppose holding members of a different nation (the Arab nation, in this case) under occupation. The Torah forbids it as well. The occupation will have to end—not, however, by the Jewish State withdrawing territories to make room for yet another Arab terrorist state, but by the Jewish State exercising its right and duty to expel all the Arab settler-colonist land-thieves from the Land of Israel.

            "Their are many peoples with ancient claims to their corner of the world what makes one worthy in your mind over the others?"

            Your question assumes I'm in the business of justifying myself. Wrong! My assumption is that Zionism is right; it is the anti-Zionists who need to defend their indefensible opposition to the idea of political sovereignty of the Jewish nation on its one and only piece of land in the world.

            "I want a precise number."

            You're not in a position to make demands, anti-Zionist scum.

          • Roco

            So you are coward then.

            You are running on an assumption and are so cowardly you will not even offer one reason why it is worthy.

            Also, what gives you the right to demand ethnic cleansing/genocide and then presume the moral high ground?

            Still waiting for a honest answer but that isn't likely from such moral coward such as yourself.

        • Advocatus

          Roco, "Lots of nations go back a very long ways and don't have a state. For example the Basque go back to at least pre-Roman times should they get a state?"

          So by your lights then, why should Palestinians be the only such people entitled to a state?

    • BS77

      muchiboy, you still around? thought you moved over to Sudan to wage terror on the poor non believers……..what are you doing in the US?

      • muchiboy

        " you still around?"
        I got a life,I guess,BS77.Over time I have made my position on Israel/Palestine as clear as I can.I try to argue reasonably and factually,again,as best I can.I appreciate the other view while I don't always agree or like it.I am Canadian,but appreciate and value America and her good people.I am Catholic but not to the detriment of Human Rights and mostly Western values.

        • StephenD

          "I have made my position on Israel/Palestine as clear as I can"

          Yeah, because what would we do without knowing where you stand?

          "I am …but…."

          So everything that is you is subject to…you. You are the definer of what is of value and what is not. There is no G_d but Muchi huh? You are a fool.

          GFY muchi.

          • muchiboy

            "Yeah, because what would we do without knowing where you stand?"
            Well,this is a forum where a discussion and exchange of opinions and ideas is encouraged if not entirely welcomed.You don't like it,leave ,change the rules or format,or get used to it.Certainly,I encourage you to make use of the filter on your email programme to filter out my foolish comments/posts.muchiboy

        • Advocatus

          Muchiboy, "I am Catholic but not to the detriment of Human Rights and mostly Western values."

          that sounds a bit wishy-washy now, does it not? Could you please explain what those "human rights and mostly Western values" are in your view?

          No generalities and polemics please. I'd appreciate facts and empirically/historically sound statements if you can manage them.

        • Tom W.

          You don't have a life! Anyone who has enough time on their hands to read hate propaganda and just repeat it over and over again ad nauseum, epitomizes the definition of a loser with way too much time on his hands! And you are a loser because you're a pathetic anti-Semite who ONLY gets his knowledge from other people's hate literature! I'm sick to death of people like you but at least I know that you're the kind of person without power, money and usually are the kind of person with bad hygiene; all you've got is your big mouth (and what little good teeth you have left)!!!

    • Ghostwriter

      I'm amazed you came back,muchiboy. Nobody here missed you,including me!

    • TheThinMan

      You could do your own research and not just hate Jews or blame them for the facts. Google "Palestine Facts" and see where it get you.

    • Steve

      Which of his facts are wrong?

  • BIG IRISH

    absolutely Stephen…why should we (canada-USA) give a damn penny to ANY arab country? for what? so they can keep on slaughtering?…I say to hell with all of them – abolish the UN and start a coalition of countries like Canada-US-Britian-etc…who will not run around slaughtering people – let the muzzies slaughter themselves right of the face of the world!

    • muchiboy

      For one Canadian,I do not object to funding any country or project that will benefit the lives of those in need,to improve the standards that we in the western democracies take for granted or will result in the overall improvement of mankind generally.Like sanctions,they may have to be targeted.On the other hand,I believe we should withdraw diplomatic,cultural and economic relations with the rogue state of Israel until there is a significant change or reversal of it's Zionist policies.

      • ziontruth

        "For one Canadian,I do not object to funding any country or project that will benefit the lives of those in need,…"

        Welfare for the entire global village, right. Worked splendidly so far. So much so that the Africans themselves have expressed their desire for cessation of foreign aid, it going into the pockets of corrupt dictators instead of bringing any benefit to the people.

        And that's hardly the worst case. The worst is when aid given to Muslim states. Then it is used to prop up shariah both in those states and beyond.

        "…the rogue state of Israel…"

        Badge of honor in an age of lemming states running over the multicultural cliff.

        "…until there is a significant change or reversal of it's Zionist policies."

        You want the Jewish State unJewished, but like it or not, we didn't set up a state after 2000 years of statelessness for it be a multicultural "state of all its citizens." If a state does not protect its nation—and this it does by maintaining the political exclusivism of its nation—then it is as if the state did not exist at all.

        And we should know. We have Lebanon, Yugoslavia and now the nation-states of Europe to learn from.

        • muchiboy

          "it going into the pockets of corrupt dictators instead of bringing any benefit to the people."
          Sure,my wife just returned from Zimbabwe where Canada has imposed sanctions.NPO's,the UN can still operate there and we do contribute to such organizations.We can and should make it clear to such regimes that their behaviours are unacceptable while still helping the innocents in need.

          " aid given to Muslim states"
          We have seen signs of change in the Arab world and we should and are providing needed aid and support where we can.I object to such aid being tied to good behaviour towards Israel.Israel should be on the receiving end of Canadian,Western and UN sanctions.
          "Badge of honor"
          Badge of Shame,really.

          " You want the Jewish State unJewished, but like it or not, we didn't set up a state after 2000 years of statelessness for it be a multicultural "state of all its citizens."
          Most colonial regimes want control and wealth to remain in the hands of the colonial ruling elite.Zionist Israel is alone in the unconscionable distinction of being the near lone state having succeeded in this goal through ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arabs.To be proud of this is likened to the pride that Neo Nazis have in the unconscionable successes of the Nazis.

          "We have Lebanon, Yugoslavia and now the nation-states of Europe to learn from."
          Perhaps.But we,and certainly the Jews, have not learned the needed and important lessons from Nazi Germany.muchiboy

          • Ghostwriter

            You must love reveling in your anti-semitic drivel,don't you muchiboy?

          • ziontruth

            "We have seen signs of change in the Arab world…"

            Yes, we have—for the worse. Islamic rule is taking over in the Arab world, turning more and more states into bases for the jihad.

            "Israel should be on the receiving end of Canadian,Western and UN sanctions."

            Anti-Zionists need to be brought before the Jewish High Court to stand trial.

            "Most colonial regimes want control and wealth to remain in the hands of the colonial ruling elite."

            That is so the case with the colonial regimes of Islam everywhere.

            Israel is no colony; it is the motherland of the Jewish nation. The only colonists in Palestine are the Arab settlers, the faux-Palestinian frauds.

            Anti-Zionism is illegitimate; it has no right to exist.

    • Northanhymbre Heathen

      Agreed 100% Big Irish – great idea. The UN is basically a joke – any institution that would let the Saudis sit on a panel for Women's Rights loses all credibility in my eyes (as if Rwanda, Darfur, Zimbabwe etc weren't enough to convince us all what a ridiculous, toothless beast it it!) I'm all for Britain joining in a coalition of decent countries who stand for civilization and freedom – it could be called PUNCH (Peoples United against Commies and Hate-mongers) or something like that (I'm sure there are many more ideas for a title! )

  • Marty

    The genocide of the Jewish nation commenced under Islam, though there were a number of unsustained if bloody attempts by the romans and the catholic church. The erality is that it doesn't matter whether palestinians were invented or not. They are part of the islamic global menace to extinguish western civilization and are beginning with Israel. islam cannot countenance a free, democratic, economically progressive, and technologically proficient Jewish state. Rather than emulate Israel, muslims are devoted to destroying. This goal fully reveals their brutal and barbaric death cult in all of its frightening aspects.

    • Roco

      "The genocide of the Jewish nation commenced under Islam, though there were a number of unsustained if bloody attempts by the romans and the catholic church."
      So you just brush off all the pograms, the inquisition and the freaking HOLOCAUST as "unsustained if bloody attempts"? You sir have a diseased mind.

    • TheThinMan

      Islam is now, and has always been, a tribal/clan family affair. Their supposed hatred of "Israel" "Jews" goes back to Abraham throwing out Hagar & Ishmael, at his wife's behest no less. and so today, in their culture, they still seek revenge – even though they would not be a "people" if it hadn't happened.

      All of Palestine – including Israel is a desert that the Arabs who were colonizing it did nothing to improve it, hardly able to scrabble a living from it. Only Israel has managed to make it bloom. Look at Gaza, look at the "West Bank" – nothing – they live on the "generosity" of welfare from the UN and other countries. they never have done anything to try and sustain themselves – much less create a real government that could sustain itself.

      • Roco

        Really? You are blaming an occupied people for the sorry state they are in? I would say that was monumentally stupid but by FPM standards it's "normal"

        You do realize the Israeli government has been taking water from the occupied territories and has prevent construction supplies from coming in? Nah, of course not why ruin a perfectly good delusion.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          So why weren't they improving themselves in the 1950's or the 1850's?

        • Chris Nichols

          It's their water. I'll say it again, since you fail to acknowledge the historical evidence presented here over the last several days, the Palestinians, in their current iteration, are the occupiers.

  • Outis

    An excellent article, but I feel that I should point out that the name "Neapolis" is a Greek name and not a Latin one.

  • Supreme_Galooty

    True "Palestinians" are Jews – for over two thousand years now. Today's "Palestinians" are Jordanians. Additionally, they are routinely denigrated by every other sort of Arab in the world. They are ignorant, vicious, simple-minded, and lazy. They are nothing more than a cat's-paw for the Iranians.

    • TheThinMan

      You might say the Jews are Palestinians, but it hardly works the other way. and they are Cat's paws for not just the Iranians, but the Syrians and the Saudi Arabians and the Egyptians. If they had half a brain they would kick off their foreign masters and align with Israel and become a self sustaining society and not depend on being welfare clients and bond servants that give their and their children's blood to assuage the long standing feud between the Hebrew people of Abraham and his child Ishmael.

  • Nakba1948

    You know what the sad things is? All the horrible, racist things you're saying about we Palestinians are what people have said and still say about the Jews. You're projecting, or didn't you realize? Ultimately, it's irrelevant. A free Palestine is inevitable, whether beside Israel or built upon its ashes. Personally, I'd rather see one democratic state for all peoples. Somehow in your twisted Zionazi minds, I'm sure you think that option is somehow "anti-Semitic."

    • ziontruth

      "All the horrible, racist things you're saying…"

      Save your use of the Race Card for people it actually works on.

      "A free Palestine is inevitable,…"

      Indeed so. A Palestine free of Arab settler-colonists wishing to steal it from the one and only true Palestinian nation, the Jewish nation, is inevitable.

      "Personally, I'd rather see one democratic state for all peoples."

      Liar. You Arab imperialists want genocide.

      • Roco

        How do you know he's lying? Oh, by projecting and assumption. Such pigheaded bigotry does no one any good.

    • TheThinMan

      Palestine could be free and welcomed into the world of nations – except for their continued terrorist attacks and lack of a real government and an ability to sustain their own people except through being a welfare state. If they put half the effort into building a self governing state, looking out for their own citizens and not worried about trying to destroy Israel – they would succeed. Israel would more than likely even help them develop sustainable energy and agriculture – much as they have done for themselves. Instead of buying rockets and bullets – how about buying bread and the means to become self sufficient with green houses and having fresh water for gardens and orchards? Many days ago, Israel could have actually OCCUPIED both Gaza and the West Bank and there is little the world could have done about it. they could have in fact become the overlords – much as the Americans, British and French did to Germany or the Americans did to Japan after WWII.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Palestinian is now a race? Next thing you know it'll be a species.

  • Paul

    Minor detail, but "Neapolis" is Greek, not Latin

  • Roco

    Well, if Israel did moderate it's stance things would have to change. Change isn't something the denizens of FPM . The only change they like is death. You can see that in their lust for war and hatred of any persons or person who disagrees (or they think disagrees) with them.

  • thankNapolean

    What the author and most of the posters fail to realize is that Nationalism is a modern invention of only a few hundred years. Until recently in history, people did not identify themselves as "French" or "Italian." That the names "Palestinian" or some city names have Greek or Roman roots has no bearing on the world in 2011. The Palestinians became a coherent people when they had a similar cause – they were upset that they had limited rights in a land that they had been living in for centuries because of a decision of a colonial power.

    Have they reacted well to this new reality over the past half-century? Certainly not. But there are people in Israel, which was founded as a Jewish state, that are not Jewish and don't identify as Israeli.

    • ziontruth

      "What the author and most of the posters fail to realize is that Nationalism is a modern invention of only a few hundred years."

      No, that's what the Marxist-controlled education system has indoctrinated you and many other people to believe.

      Nationalism, at least in the Western world, existed in Antiquity, fell into dormancy in the Middle Ages due to the inability to maintain centralized authority and gradually reasserted itself as the feudal system broke down. Jewish nationhood is one of the surviving nationalisms of Antiquity.

      "The Palestinians became a coherent people…"

      They didn't. They're still Arab settler-colonists, part of the Arab nation and not a nation in its own right.

      "…a land that they had been living in for centuries…"

      The number of Arab families who can trace their ancestry in Palestine further back than the 19th century is small. In fact, a great portion of them are arrivals from Egypt and Syria in the early 20th century, attracted by the sudden blooming of the land wrought by… those dastardly Zionists.

      "But there are people in Israel, which was founded as a Jewish state, that are not Jewish and don't identify as Israeli."

      The Jewish State isn't keeping them inside its borders by force. They're free to go elsewhere if they're not pleased. They're not free to demand the unJewishing of the Jewish State. This is the one and only Jewish state in the world, situated on the one and only piece of land in the world that actually belongs to the Jewish nation. We're not the aggressors here, our enemies are.

      • thankNapolean

        "No, that's what the Marxist-controlled education system has indoctrinated you and many other people to believe. "

        How many teachers do you know? I probably know three dozen, as well as those who have a say in curriculum. None of them are Marxists (well, maybe one is). Why in the world would Marxists care about Nationalism? The Marxists in Israel are VERY nationalistic.

        "Nationalism, at least in the Western world, existed in Antiquity, fell into dormancy in the Middle Ages due to the inability to maintain centralized authority and gradually reasserted itself as the feudal system broke down."

        You are correct in that in the Middle Ages, Nationalism did not exist. English royalty spoke French, Italy was made up of various small principalities (and was only united as a single country in 1861), and no one thought of themselves as a Holy Roman Empire-ian.

        However, our modern understanding of nationalism also did not exist in antiquity. Did people, when threatened by an external power sometimes find commonality and band together? Absolutely – the Greek city-states took a brief break from warring with each other to default the Persians together. But by and large, they (and the Jews, who did share a common *religion* and shared memory) were outliers.

        Do you think that a man, living in Mesopotamia thought of himself as an "Assyrian" just because that is who his tribute went to? Because it wasn't. It was a foreign concept back then.

        I'm not foolish enough to think that a Jewish state shouldn't exist. It absolutely needs to. But to discount the previous occupiers of that land because they didn't align themselves with a specific nation and chose a lame name for themselves is silly and doesn't help the issue.

      • Daniel Greenfield

        Yet oddly there was an Am Yisrael, a Jewish people, for thousands of years.

    • TheThinMan

      Many Israeli's are not "Jewish" if by that you mean Judaist's. that they are ethnically related to ancient Judah and the tribes of Israel is a point. but very many are not "Jew's" as in worshipers of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Just as very many, the majority, of Americans are not Christians and don't worship Jesus or his Father God.

      • Daniel Greenfield

        Jews are an ethno-religious civilization.

  • Anamah

    Sadly Palestinian are useless, uneducated, very sick society without ambitions and ideals …
    Walking on reverse, sinking for lack of a sound basis, digging their own grave with unbridled envy and hate toward Jews and Israel. Embarked by their leaders on a journey without destination, seems unable to change course. They can not wake up; do not realize who are condemning them to cultivate inferiority and brutality …Who is denying them their happiness… Is not Allah… is the people in power your leaders exploiting your families life… Those corrupted gangsters always squeezing, intoxicating and pushing you to a stubborn violence, with more ignorance and lies …

    • muchiboy

      It is both a moral and humanitarian crime and a tragedy to boot that the Jews neither recognize nor acknowledge their very real and complicit role in the Palestinian story i.e.denial.This is not to deny the role played by the Palestinians themselves.But the Palestinians are more pawns then Knights and Rooks.There is always a sinister rationale for such denial,and ironically we see it in Holocaust Denial,for example.

      • Tom W.

        You're an idiot!! Did you not read the article? There are no Palestinians–period! You are still repeating Arab lies, Arabs who only came from one place–do you know where? The Arabian Peninsula, if it wasn't for Muhammad, the Arabs would still be tribal pagans attacking each others' tribes and visiting their tribal idols in the Kaaba. But thanks to Islam, millions of Hindus, Persians, Africans and Jews were slaughtered for not bowing down and serving Allah. Every North African nation was slaughtered off by the Arabs, there are no true Egyptians, Libyans, Algerians, Moroccans anymore–they are all a bunch of tribal Arabs! Just as in what was known as the Kingdom of Israel, you now have Jews who have returned to their land after 2000 years to reclaim it from a bunch of tribal Arabs! The Roman emperor Hadrian tried to erase the memory of the Jewish people by renaming Judah to Syria-Palaestina. Just because a bunch of tribal Arabs moved in and called themselves Syrians and Palestinians doesn't make them a people! They're made-up, they're just a bunch of tribal Arabs that's it! The truth isn't denial you moron–believing in hate propaganda and hating the Jews for crimes they never committed–well now that is something you're in total denial of!!!

        • Supreme_Galooty

          Well said.

  • bob

    Neopolis is not Latin –it is Greek–which even under the Roman Empire was the lingua franca of the region (not Latin) Duh. Anyway, the Egyptian Arafat himself was essentially invented by the Romanian Secret Police. First he was a doctrinaire communist; later he "became" a "Palestinian" nationalist.

  • polo

    i am an arab, but how come that jews are great scientists, great actors, great philosophers, great inventors, i mean great in everything.