Why Jews Support the Democratic Party

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The question I am asked more than any other – besides what happened to the once seemingly reasonable Bill Maher – is: Why do Jews support the Democrat Party?  The answer is easy – but not short.  Here goes:

To be called a Jew –even to call yourself a Jew – is different than any other religion.  To be called a Christian, you have to believe something.  You have to believe that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior.  If you believe that, you’re a Christian.  If you don’t believe that, you’re not a Christian.  If you do believe that, then there are certain rites and rituals, practices and behaviors that tend to follow.  To be called a Muslim you have to believe something.  You have to believe that the Koran is the final testament of God and Muhammad his perfect messenger. If you believe that, you’re a Muslim.  If you don’t believe that then you’re not a Muslim.  If you do believe this then there are certain rites and rituals, practices and behaviors that tend to follow.

But, to be called a Jew you don’t have to believe anything.  To be called a Jew, all you have to do is plop out of a Jewish womb.  Because these Jews – I’ll call them here “The Plopping Jews” – do not believe anything particularly Jewish. Indeed, there’s absolutely no reason to expect them to vote in a way that reflects Jewish values and beliefs.  Since a Jewish person’s Judaism is not of his own choosing or a reflection of his beliefs, his Jewishness is nothing more than an accident of his birth. Therefore, to expect him to choose to support Jewish causes is actually a form of bigotry.  People’s behaviors are predicated on their beliefs, not on the circumstances of their birth.

In fact, not only is there no reason to expect the Plopping Jew to support Jewish causes, one might even argue that the folks who Dennis Prager calls “Non-Jewish Jews” and are more generally known as “Secular Jews” (note that it is almost unheard of for someone to call themselves or be called “Secular Christians” or “Secular Muslims”) are less likely to support Jewish causes and to be antipathetic to Israel and other Jewish issues than are others since we can assume, having been born to a Jewish mother, they were at least exposed to Judaism and chose to reject it.  Put simply, the Plopping Jew is more likely to be an anti-Semite than your average American.

Sadly, in an America that has been successfully secularized by the Left, the Plopping Jews make up the vast majority of the people who are identified as “Jewish” and thus a major part of the explanation as to why so many “Jews” vote for the party that is, as we shall see, patently Jew-hating.

Now we get to the rest of the people who are called Jews.  These Jews differ from the Plopping Jew in that they have made at least some personal decision to be Jewish.  These Jews are typically divided into three categories, in ascending order of their belief and practice of Judaism there are the Reform Jews, the Conservative Jews and the Orthodox Jews.

The Reform Jew – sadly the majority of the remaining minority of all “Jews” – are not really Jewish either.  In fact, while the Plopping Jew has done nothing Jewish in his life, the Reform Jew has done only one thing Jewish in his life – he joined a synagogue.  But the Reform Jew didn’t join a synagogue to better learn and practice the rites and rituals, convictions and values of Judaism; he joined a synagogue because it was his local recreation center.  Basically, it was more affordable than the country club and, while more costly than the YMCA, he didn’t have to worry about getting naked in front of strangers.  Put simply, the Reform Jew is a Plopping Jew with a somewhat better social calendar.

Since there is nothing Jewish about the reform Jew that is Jewish, again, it would be unreasonable to expect his policies to reflect Jewish values.  In fact, the Reform Jew, like the Plopping Jew, has rejected Jewish values and, as the name of the movement suggests, he doesn’t even like Judaism, which is why he seeks to “re-form” it to his liking.

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  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    Thank you Evan Sayet! What a brilliant characterization and brilliant metaphor: "The Plopping Jews"! Yet the ethnic-only-Jewry emerged relatively recently: just some 150 years ago. And the consequences of their emergence were much more dramatic than particular party affiliation:


    On a side note, a presumption as though the so called "Republican Party" stands for anything conservative (never mind the US Constitution) reflects rather a wishful thinking then the reality. The thinking not wishful at all for ethnic-only-Jews…

    Yes, "the Conservative Jew seeks to bring his Judaism into his [and only his] daily life; and the Orthodox Jew seeks to make Judaism his [and only his] daily life". Yet the real mission of Judaism is to bring the light of Torah to the humanity's life, and this mission is abandoned alas (see the link).

    • waterwillows

      The mission of Judaism is not to bring the Light of Torah to the nations. The mission of Jews is to fulfil the requirements of Torah. That is Light. Not the 'bringing'.
      You see, Torah does not 'go out'. It stays where it was given; and where it belongs. It is a precious gift that was not given to the nations. It belongs in only one place and one place only.
      Some people may convert and help to fufil the requirements of Torah. But Torah never but never 'leaves' or 'goes out'. It is already 'at home'.
      The mission has never been abandoned. The Lord does not fail.

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      Indeed the Lord does not fail: the peoples do. I have not said what you attribute to me.

      As to the mission of Jewish people, I am not a good scholar of Judaism, and I cannot refer you directly to a particular Biblical source of my opinion. Yet according to many scholarly interpretations, it IS a mission of Jewish people to carry the light of Torah to the humanity. In fact, Jewish people had been doing it for centuries and well succeeded in this mission indeed! That is why we have this unique success of the humanity called the Judeo-Christian civilization! This success is a real fact exemplifying the triumph of the Light of Torah in one part of humanity which was open to it.

      • waterwillows

        Yes, Jewish people have been doing this for centuries. Yet……they are a small nation among the peoples of the world. Unlike Christians, which are large in number but have not Torah.
        Torah is Precious and Exclusive. It does not go out. What does go out, is the example of the Jewish people who live Torah. This is what makes for Master Builders and their light is what brings down Blessings to themselves and all the peoples of the world.
        By their fruit, the world will know the Lord to be full of Wisdom.

    • Len

      This article is more satire that truth. While I have morphed into conservative politics over time, many religious Jews in my Othodox synagogue are liberals and we argue heartily. They would be most insulted at tthe thesis presented.

      • z303

        The truth, actually, is that religious Jews have all sorts of politics, because they already have a religion, and do not need to make their politics into a religion. I am very conservative politically partly because I see my religion that way, but there are others whom, while believing the same things, "project" it into the political sphere very differently.

        On the other hand, liberal (irreligious) Judaism and liberal Christianity have replaced the Bible with the platform of the Democratic party. The excuse is to take an obscure mystical concept, Tikun Olam, and twist it out of shape. It's just an excuse.

        • z303

          BTW, for the THOUSANDTH time, Jewish tradition does not take "an eye for an eye" literally; it refers to compensation. The main problem in applying traditional Jewish law to a modern society is not, as people think, that it is too harsh, but that it is so lenient. There is very little criminal law in practice, and the standards of proof are rather high. (There are various views as to how to resolve this, since it was in fact applied for a long time, often in spite of the official rulers.)

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      If what you are saying is that even the orthodox or conservative congregations also happen to maintain liberal policies, I agree. For example, I myself had witnessed refusal of orthodox/conservative rabbis to support the Prop. 8 (to keep the traditional definition of marriage), much less to denounce homosexuality. Nor would they agree to fight against islamization of America. I have not seen them on the streets of S.F. protesting the voting proposition banning the Jewish circumcision to infants! They reduced themselves to dispensers of rites rather than being spiritual leaders (see the link to the essay).

  • Fray222

    Until fairly recently, with the rise of neo-conservatism, right-wing Jews basically did not exist. The Jewish political spectrum in America until the late 70s ranged from liberalism to Marxism. There are many reasons for this, firstly as you correctly point out, there is the fact that Jews are probably the most secular ethnic group on the planet. This is a trend which had emerged long before WWII among Jewish intellectuals, but had become predominant among Jews after this period, partly due to the disgust which many Jews had felt towards ultra-orthodox Jewish religious leaders who had blamed Jewish secularism for the Holocaust. Whole Jewish communities in the Unites States are not for all effective purposes atheist. These communities are terrified of all religious conservatism, particularly of the Christian variety.
    Secondly, there is the long and storied history of antisemitism on the American and European right, which conservatives have very conveniently forgotten over the past 25 or so years. This right-wing antisemitism was based largely on the not entirely false belief that communism and left-liberalism were basically Jewish inventions. For most of the last century, supporting right wing political movements was manifestly not in Jewish self-interest.

    • Maxie

      "This right-wing antisemitism was based largely on the not entirely false belief that communism and left-liberalism were basically Jewish inventions. For most of the last century, supporting right wing political movements was manifestly not in Jewish self-interest."

      Communism and its precursors were very much a secular Jewish invention from Moses Hess and Marx in theory and to Trotsky, Radek, Kamenev, Zinoviev at the core of the Russian Revolution and Bela Kun and Rosa Luxemberg in Hungary and Germany respectively. All these folks bought Marx's Manifesto and his call to trade in Judaism for atheism and Communism. It's taken the the form of Gramscian subversion as a "long march through the institutions" for the past fifty or so years in America. Look up The Frankfurt School and read "The Politics of Bad Faith" by Davis Horowitz.

      • Maxie

        Make that David not 'Davis'

      • z303

        Um, Marx was a Christian, a self-hater and vicious anti-semite, before he was an Atheist. Engels, Lenin, Stalin, were not Jewish. It would be more correct that Communism is an offshoot of Christian Anti-semitism. Catholic historian Paul Johnson said as much (without the Christian part) in Intellectuals.

    • Steve

      Didn't the ethnic Jews choose Marxism because the only other choice was anti-Semitic Nationalist Parties in Europe? Aren't American Jews Leftist and Marxist primarily in reaction to the Holocaust (i.e. the Communists were the swarn enemies of the National Socialists)? Doesn't survivior guilt re the Holocaust also haunt American Jews, and in effect make them unable to see the self destructiveness of choosing the path of the American Left?

      • z303

        A lot of it was a reaction to the Czar being literally at war (a one-sided war) with the Jewsih population. Certainly not everyone was like that; they just got the press. My folks were Democrats, but they often voted Republican. My grandfather and grandmother split on Truman-Dewey, my Dad and Mom on Nixon-Kennedy. EVERYONE (Orthodox) voted against McGovern.

        A lot of it is also living in cities; urban Catholics aren't known as Republicans either.

  • Jack Kay

    This article is an over exaggeration. But first, my bona fides: I am an observant Jew belonging to an Orthodox synagogue. I read, write, and speak modern Hebrew and have some skills in biblical and rabbinic Hebrew. I have a master's degree in Jewish studies and will make my 7th trip to Israel next month. I daven most every day, am a fiscal and foreign policy conservative, and vote 99.99% with the Republican party. Finally, I am not particularly fond of liberals and their belief system, especially the one that champions the criminal over the victim. In my view the article leaves out the "cultural Jew". This is a Jew with a very strong attachment to the Jewish people and to Israel, and takes particular pride (or pain) at the accomplishments (or crimes) of any Jew in the public eye. I think that there are many Jews like this and it must constitute either a separate category, or a subset of the plopping Jew. My wife, by way of example, never went to Hebrew school, never had a Bat Mitzvah, cannot read, write, speak, or understand a word of Hebrew, and sees the inside of a synagogue maybe once a year. But I can assure you that she loves her identity, the Jewish people, and the State of Israel. I know lots of these "cultural Jews". Some of my best friends are culturally Jewish. But the main thrust of the article is correct: Too many Jews are being assimilated by the freedom and acceptance inherent in modern American culture. And Democrat or Republican, this is not a good trend for the continuance of a strong Jewish-American community.

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      Too many Jews had always longed to abandon their mission… The huge surge of this abandonment is not due to "the freedom and acceptance inherent in modern American culture". This abandonment took place during the emancipation some 150 years ago, so the exaggerated "freedom" (up to freedom of God) and acceptance of everything (including filth) is a result of that earlier abandonment (see the link above).

    • Maxie

      Out of curiousity, is your lineage Sephardic or Ashkenazi? I'd guess the former.

    • cris

      Jack, maybe what you write applies where you live, but i live in NY,NY and this article is unequivocally on point and in no way an exaggeration.

    • z303

      Irnoically, A Bat Mitzvah is a recent invention. Even a Bar Mitzvah is pretty weak from a tradional viewpoint. All it really means is that religious majority occurs as puberty.

    • Tweety58

      In Catholicism we have similar striations.Most Catholics in the Northern Hemisphere are Cultural,or Ethnic Catholics who identify with the name of Catholicism but practice the antithesis of their Faith.These are the "Catholics"(In name only)who reject Church teaching on just about everything from,abortion,so-called same sex marriage,the ordination of women,etc.,and insist that their views should be reflected in the Church and not the other way around.


      They cause continuous scandal to devout Catholics as they never or rarely attend mass(Christmas and Easter Catholics)and are sought out by the media for insight as to what Catholics REALLY believe(eye roll).Most are uncatechised and are at best Cafeteria Catholics like the Kennedys a la Maria Shriver-the polar opposite of Eunice and Rose Kennedy.
      As a devout Catholic it is disconcerting to see many de facto heretics claiming passive Catholicism but practicing strident Secularism and embracing the moral relativism of failed Liberalism.

  • Chezwick_mac

    I was once friends with a Jewish doctor who:

    1) Regularly attended Temple and embraced the ceremony and symbolism, but didn't happen to believe in God

    2) Was a security hawk on all things Israel, advocating aggressive American support for the Jewish state, but was a complete non-interventionist on all other global issues, including South Korea, saying it was none of our (America's) business

    3) Was fascinated with and romanticized the origins of the US Labor movement, but could not for the life of him make a distinction between then and now

    4) Was as ideologically committed to liberalism, the unions, and the Democratic Party, as anyone I've ever known…and yet, was otherwise insightful, brilliant and intuitive

    Talking to him was both gratifying and exasperating. The contradictions in his world view were staggering, but he couldn't see them in the least. We typically – after an engaging back-and-forth – agreed to disagree.

    We lost touch after a while…and I still marvel at how such a sterling intellect could be so parochial and myopic.

  • Bamaguje

    This is one of the most confused write-ups ever published on Frontpagemag.
    The writer is confused about Jewish ethnic identity (like Black, Irish, Italian etc) as distinct from Jewish religion (Judaism).

    Jews like any other humans are free to choose their religion. That one is born a Jew (ethnically Jewish) does not mean one must automatically suscribe to Judaism as a religion. Just as there are non-Muslim Arabs and non-Christian Europeans.

    Contrary to what Evan Sayet thinks there are secular Christians and Muslims, i.e. Christians or Muslims who believe government should be neutral in matters of religion.
    So there’s nothing absurd about being “secular Jew”. Albert Einstein, one of the greatest Jews ever, was an atheist. That doesn’t amount to denying one’s Jewish ethnicity.

  • The Dauntless Conservative

    Not that I disagree with Mr. Sayet, but Norman Berdichevsky gives a more deeper explanation why Jews paradoxically support the demoNcracKKK party. I don't think Jews have caught on to it yet. Given their historic past behavior, they never will.


    • Juliana Pilon

      Agreed: Berdichevsdy's article is very useful. Though religious attitudes are correlated with political opinions, there is considerably more to the story. Some of my best friends who are conservative-libertarian Jews are not deeply religious. Classical liberalism, a commitment to individual liberty, offers another approach. Very useful conversation, thanks to all.

    • Eddie Lang

      Thank you for that link. A brilliant and lucid essay and concisely done.

  • Steve Chavez

    I call them "FAKE JEWS" like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are "FAKE REVERENDS!"

    Call them whatever, BUT THESE FAKES are the vocal minority! They are the protesters and activists who say "as a Jew, I speak for many others!" Many of the these FAKE JEWS are in groups like BDS, Boycott Divestment Sanctions who want to cut off "$30 Billion" in funds from Israel! Other groups like the ISM, International Solidarity Movement, sides with every issue against Israel. Groups like Code Pink and the United for Peace in Justice which are Communist Party USA fronts, side with Hamas and Hezbollah and blame Israel for all Middle East problems.

    The members of the aforementioned groups, are believed by many to be the voice of Jews since they have the media on their side and so that media only covers their point of view! These members of Hate-Israel groups join and support Democrats but they then put down their protest signs and put on their Jewish Cap only as a Mother of All Deceptions!!!


  • WeMustResist

    Yes, that is a briliant analysis. The question had puzzled me and the answer provided by Mr Sayet was one I had never suspected. It makes a lot of sense.

  • spinoza149

    Baruch Spinoza – the father of modern biblical criticism – was one cause of the diversion from Jewish orthodoxy towards Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist Jews. Despite being mis-labeled as an atheist, Spinoza was God-intoxicated and had a crushingly massive focus on justice. The Jewish spin-offs (I grew-up as one being a Reform Jew), focused on Spinoza's religious criticism's but ignored his virtues.

    • z303

      Of course, we excommunicated him, which, although deserved, was mainly to please the Christians. Spinoza was pretty much separate from the community by then, anyway.

      I understood that he was a pantheist, which basically comes out as pagan. But the problem with heresy is that if you don't accept tradition, sooner or later everything is permitted, as we see in the U.S. today.

      The foundation of Judaism is the Law of Moses. If you don't believe it was written by Moses from dicatation by the creator, you have invented a new religion. And therein lies the split.

  • yrd4soundingoff

    Brilliant! Brilliant! I have wrestled with this concept for ages and you hit on every point. I printed this and will carry it with me! Thank you!

  • http://jewishdefense.org AJ Weberman

    Why did Jews let themselves be taken to death camps? Because Jews are not as smart as they think they are. When an atomic war breaks out in the middle east and gas prices reach $1000 a barrel and the American economy grinds to a halt because of Israel watch out liberal gun-hating Jews the police are not going to protect you no matter how much money you pay in taxes or how rich you are. In fact they will be the ones who come to kill you after someone like David Duke takes power. So vote for Obama who is strengthening the Muslim Brotherhood and is doing nothing about the Hitler of Iran.

    • BS77

      Ever consider therapy?

    • Leon

      or suicide?

  • BS77

    I find the whole tone of this article to be nasty, condescending and full of stereo typical lies and half baked personal assessments that have little or no foundation. Callling anyone a "plopping" thing…….this is not a scholarly article at all..

    • Langlet

      At last, a good but too short answer to this pretty stupid article. To be Jewish , OK for the "plopping Jew,, but the jewish values are passed, transmitted, and really so , by most and so often without any religious affiliation to orthodox, liberal or any other synagogue. Jewish values do exist, may be issued out of the Tora and mitsvot, but also , they have been at the root of european (and american) democratic values. Yes, you do not have to "believe" to be Jewish. There are no Popes or Imam you have to fear or respect, yes, you can argue , with all authorities. And that is invaluable. The writer forgets History. And that's sad.

      • nina

        You are absolutely right. The article seems half baked. The writer forgot that we live in an age when religion is not as important as it was a century ago. A Jew who is an agnostic or a non believer, coud at the same time love Israel and appreciate Jewish values and jewish history, as long as he/she was imbued with them by parents or school. The important thing is knowledge. The anti Israeli leftists have no idea about anything Jewish.

    • Steve

      "Ethic Jew" would be a more sophisticated way to put it….and this phrase would also underscore the strength and importance of ethnic ties in a way the author is unable to.

      • Steve

        That should be "Ethnic Jew"…sorry.

  • Rosine Ghawji

    Plopping or not , liberal or orthodox…. it does not matter. The today wave of indifference toward Israel shown by a hign percentage of American Jews is frightening .The bell started ringing in my ears when I saw young Jewish boys on Miami Beach campaigning for Obama..Now , the attitude of the American Jewish community towards the Muslims leave you speechless….. It is one thing to be a democrat it is another to be a stupid liberal .Every day , you have another Rabbi showing his support to the building of mosques….. Terrible… only a handful of American Jews seems to get it…. Do we need another Sept 11 to wake up…..

  • http://SanFranciscoUSA.ru Randy

    Wow! Such an issue I have pondered for decades, explained so clearly and rationally.

  • Andres de Alamaya

    A most creative and stimulating explanation of an unexplainable entity. I'd love to get Mr. Sayet's assessment of the most famous Jew in history, Jesus Christ. Would he have been a plopping Jew or otherwise. Would he vote for Obama? I've tried to simplify the question of why so many Jews vote the way they do. Jews and Arabs stem from related tribes of the Middle East. Arabs create suicide bombers and Jews grow suicide voters.

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      You said it great!

      Moslems create suicide bombers and Jews grow suicide voters!

    • WilliamJamesWard

      Would Jesus vote for the Obamination of desolation, don't think so……….William

  • Mike from Brooklyn

    Havn't had the time to read the Comments, but looking at a couple of words here and there I will go back to them. And I think I will have some disagreements, since I see the words like "I agree", "brillant", " stimulating", etc.
    What Christians don't "pop out" and go to the church of their mother and father? Some don't decide to go to a progressive church? Or change affiliations and
    become Lutheran, or Episcopal? There aren't progressive Christians out there? There are some Methodists andf Episcopalians who are almost pagan in their desire to
    please Gaila, the earth mother. So there is change in all people in all religions. Except of course for the Muslims, who can't leave under threat of death.
    So for some reason it seems to be okay to constantly dissect Jews. Not Cathics even if some of them only follow Christ on Christmas and consider themselves
    Catholic if they put up a plastic Christmas tree. (Next page please).

    • Cindy

      As a person who is Jewish by birth and was raised as such, and who converted to Christianity and was baptized, I would like to comment on the "What Christian's don't 'pop out' " sentence above. Unlike being Jewish, which IS a circumstance of one's birth and Jewish identity of the biological mother, one does not "pop out" of the womb as a Christian. Yes, a baby/young child of practicing Christians is likely to attend church with their parents, but the sacrament of baptism is what "makes" a person Christian — having a Christian mother isn't sufficient. (I am purposely not even going to tackle the various beliefs on baptism such as infant baptism or believer baptism as it is beyond the scope of the article). Either way, one BECOMES a Christian — it is not an automatic circumstance of one's birth.

  • Mike from Brooklyn

    I think one of the unsaid things (unprovable3) is that some Jews are ashamed ofbeing assofciated with for example, Hasidim whose dress some find embarrasxsing. I think this holds, to a much less effect, the "look" if you will of Orthodox Jews, that is almost always black suits, black shoes, black hat, with the women wearing black dresses. I thinik, and I may be projecting a bit here that this "look" is one that kind of pushes you into a corner. A friend of mine goes to an Orthodox shul, yet he normally dresses in dungarees and tee shirts. (next page if you will)

  • Mike from Brooklyn

    As for voting Democrat and Obama. It is nuttiness. It is a stilted thinking brought on by believing one should act a particular way. Everyone says that Netanyahu made some good points versus. I certainly think so. Hopefull the Jews, my Jews were listening. Hopefull those that still think there is some ideal socialist world out there will wake up. Ryan is nwo posed by the Dems as some evil guy. I just wish some Jewish grandmother out there could meet him. She would surely say "nice boy." Am Yisrael Chai! Mike from Brooklyn

  • Kender

    At the end of the day the one salient fact is the plopping jews, as Evan calls them, are voting for a party and a system that is against not only their self interest, but the self interest of everyone else and even against Liberty itself.

    • http://evansayet.com Evan Sayet

      Bill, Jack and others —

      The problem is not that "cultural Jews" (which IS a "subset" of the plopping Jew) might not feel an "attachment" with Israel and a tie to Jews, it is the policies their lack of Jewish (Torah, Talmud, etc.) philosophy that leads them to. Let's say the "cultural" Jew loves Israel, wishes for there to be peace. How does he go about brining about this peace? His inability to recognize good and evil/right and wrong leads him to side with those who believe that the Palestinian's suffering is caused by the Jews and that their murderous ways will end as soon as the Jews give them more land, etc. Conversely, those who recognize good and evil/right and wrong seek to protect the Jews of Israel by siding with them and keeping them strong. The former votes Democrat, the latter Republican.

      • Maxie

        "Conversely, those who recognize good and evil/right and wrong seek to protect the Jews of Israel …"

        So true. The problem is that our culture has been polluted with European postmodernism which denies the validity of any and all Judeo-Christian morals/ethics and truth itself.

  • Liberty2

    Thank you!!! Many of us (including Rush Limbaugh) have asked over and over this question. You have answered it plainly but brilliantly. Thank you for shedding light on this! Shalom!

  • Bill

    Jack, above, has a point about cultural Jews. Indeed, there is an old, venerable Jewish culture worth preserving. Those who wish to preserve it, but are not religious, do not easily fit into one or another of Evan's categories. But–and this is a problem for these cultural Jews–shorn of that culture's animating principle, i.e., Jewish spiritual commitments, this culture seems no more than a lifestyle, no better (or worse) than any other, a matter of taste, not belief. And one does not go to war over a matter of taste.

    • nina

      And why should one? Go to war, that is. What do you mean by cultural Jews? Do you mean educated? If so, they are not educated in the Jewish culture. Because if they were, they wouldn't be haters of all that is Jewish and of Israel. They would be proud of being Jews and see through the leftist lies.

  • Liberty2

    There is one more thought. Throughout history Jews have been persecuted. Pharaoh, Christians, HItler, radical Muslims. They were often outcasts and lived in separate quarters. Could following the liberal Democratic line make Jews feel like "they belong?" The same question could be asked of Hollywood and the College kids who rallied around Obama?

  • Wawawiwa

    Most american Jews (of European descent) are not real Jews according to Jewish law (halakha). Intermarriage and assimilation rates in America are close to 52% ( and 2 to 4% among American Jews of Syrian descent).
    It's a mistake to call all of them Jews. They are Jews only according to Reformist Judaism, wich is nothing more than religious leftism.

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      Your statement

      "Most American Jews (of European descent) are not spiritually Jews according to Jewish law (halakha). Intermarriage and assimilation rates in America are close to 52% ( and 2 to 4% among American Jews of Syrian descent)."

      is confusing.

      The great majority of "questionable Jews" meant by you were born to Jewish mothers or both Jewish parents, yet they abandoned Judaism completely. It is not exactly "intermarriage and assimilation" which ruins Judaism. It is the betrayal of Judaism and of God which does it – disregarding from which womb the person plopped. A person of any ethnicity may convert into Judaism through giyur. (Jews of Syrian descent are probably just more tribal).

      • Wawawiwa

        "The great majority of "questionable Jews" meant by you were born to Jewish mothers or both Jewish parents"

        Can you show me any numbers about that?
        I can't, but with my (short) life experience in America I can say that while some leaders were legally Jews, most of their supporters and members of their communities are not.

        And Middle Eastern Jews tend to be less "tribal" than the European ones. European Jews were always more radical and strict. Maybe that's the reason why those movements are so succesful among them, but fail reach Middle Easterners

  • dawning

    I posted almost this exact question just yesterday on another site?? I appreciate your sensable and "scholarly" insight. I will ever be indebted to you for the "ploping Jew" analogy.

  • Yetwave

    Until this post, Front Page has been has been a relatively "snark free" zone, that is, most of the commentary on the site, with which I usually happen to agree, is scholarly and thoughful.
    The term "Conservative" Judaism which Sayet proffers as one of the two true branches of Judaism, was not so differentiated until the founding of Reform Judaism when it adapted the label 'conservative' to set it apart from reform. In comparison with Orthodox Judaism, Conservative Judiasm could be construed as diluted Judaism as well. How much dilution leaves one stuill a Jew, Evan?
    I was born Jewish and practice Reform Judaism with passion and constancy, living my life by Jewish precepts but set apart from my Reform coreligionists by my poltical and humanitarian inclinations.
    From what I notice of David Horowitz, also, presumably, a Jew, is that he does not wear a kippah, one of many outward manifestations of observant Jewish males. Nor does Dennis Prager appear to, ditto for many other politically conservative Jewish commentators, not to mention Binyamin Netanyahu. Continued…

    • http://evansayet.com Evan Sayet

      The deliiniation is between those who choose to live Jewish lives and those who do not. To expect people who do NOTHING or, in the case of most Reform Jews, only one thing Jewish in their lives (join a synogogue, usually because it acts as the local recreation center, a place to go where there are art exhibits and music nights, etc) should in no way be expected to vote a certain way. These people may vote Republican or better yet support conservative causes, but the is no reason to suspect they will (and, in fact, because of their rejection of Judaism in their lives save that nice building with people who look like me and might find me attractive, more reason to expect them NOT to.)

      One doesn't have to be a practicing Jew — one can be a Plopping Jew — or not a Jew at all and still vote Republican and support the conservative causes. It's just that to EXPECT someone who plopped out of a certain womb to then think and act in a certain way is actually a form of bigotry.

      • nina

        So to you the only criterion for Jewishness is being religious? I pity you for your narrow outlook. It is true that religion kept the Jews as a people for close to two thousand years. But times are different.Not everyone believes in God. If the Jews want to continue their existance, they have to think of other possibilities. Reform Judaism is really diluted Judaism, although they slightly changed their ways. But what i mean is education in religion and history, to obtain a proud Jew who knows his/her place in the world.

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    You are absolutely correct. No justification nor any place for Israel within secularism can ever exist in this world: literally!

  • http://evansayet.com Evan Sayet

    I do not for a moment fail to note that being Jewish is belonging to a people. This article is not about that. It is about the correlation between knowledge and practice of the religion of Judaism and the voting patterns of people identified as Jews. There is simply no way to deny that the more one possesses knowledge of the rites and rituals, practices and behaviors of Judaism and incorporates that knowledge into their daily lives the more likely they are to vote Republican, support the conservative movement and agree with both on specific issues such as everything from school vouchers to abortion.

    This doesn't mean that those with limited or non-existent knowledge and practice of Judaism can't or won't do the right things — fight for Israel, for example — it just means that there is no more reason to explect the "Jew" who is Jewish in nothing other than the fact that he was born out of a Jewish woman's womb to do the right things.

  • Arius

    The problem with the modern liberal definition of social justice is that it is in the realm of psychology, and that is strange considering that by their other thoughts and actions they deny the reality of the psyche.

  • LeftistsStink

    I am wondering how wealthy 'Plopped Jews' square their earned wealth with their social justice ideology.

  • trickyblain

    Isn't it reasonable to expect that an article titled "Why Jews Support the Democratic Party" would be written by a Jew that supports the Democratic party? And not a little-known comic that can't hide his envy for Bill Maher's sucess?

    • http://evansayet.com Evan Sayet

      Very nicely said, your deeply insightful counterpoint to my factual statements have caused me to reconsider my beliefs. Thanks!

      • trickyblain

        And you could have let it go before exposing yourself as delusional — "factual statements"?

        Nothing in this article could be construed as factual by any sentient, sane being. First you give your opinion on who is a Jew and who is not a Jew (though, factually, folks born a Jewish mother are, factually, Jewish). Then you give your non-factual opinion that the more religious the Jew, the more he/she rejects liberalism while the less religious flock to liberalism. Seems Horowitz, Wolfowitz, Kristol, Strauss et. al. tend to shed doubt on that one. Then you get really "factual" — by giving your silly opinion that liberals don't believe in justice and that criminals and evil people should be rewarded. You may have based that one person's opinion, but lumping that insanely idiotic sentiment onto "liberals" in general is quite the opposite of "factual."

        "Factual statements," sheesh. You could've just left it as it is — a lame op-ed that won't stand up to the slightest scrutiny.

        • Kender

          Trickyblain, you seem to not understand what Evan is saying here. And liberals do seem to support criminals being rewarded, by giving them more and more rights, and victims less and less (how else to explain a successful lawsuit by a burglar who was hurt burgling a house and sued the owners for his injuries?) and the fact that liberals only believe in justice when the word social is in front of it can be shown by the attitudes they have in many arenas, such as judicial decisions that override the will of the people when it goes against their social justice goals and their support for the blatantly racist affirmative action program. I am however entertained by your failure to grasp such simple concepts as put forth by Mr. Sayet and beg of you to respond with even more drivel so I may enjoy my popcorn with a few laughs.

  • Maxie

    Excellent and timely. What's missing here is the Jewish attraction to what I call Authoritarian Collectivism, aka Marxism. From Marx to Trotsky, et al it was atheistic Jews who were at the core of the Russian Revolution. There's reason to believe that, excepting Marx, these were 'mongrel' Jews "polluted" with barbarian Khazar blood (my belief). These 'Jews' comprised the bulk of the Ashkenazim and who migrated Westward and subsequently emigrated to America. Also missing is any reference to the concept of tikkun or 'repair' of the world which, I believe, has infused and driven the tide of world communism in the name of 'social justice' that is now centered in America (Soros?). Overall a fascinating bit of history which could fill many volumes.

    • encausticus

      Utter nonsense: "There's reason to believe that, excepting Marx, these were 'mongrel' Jews "polluted" with barbarian Khazar blood ." there is absolutely no support for this nonsense.

      • Maxie

        I assume you've read "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koestler who has written on the subject of the Khazar Jews. The 'mongrelization' possibility is my hypothesis – not Koestler's – and certainly is speculative. The brutality of the atheistic 'Jews' at the heart of the Russian Revolution is not a characteristic I associate with the Jewish people but was typical of the more primitive Khazars. There had to have been some miscegenation between the two cultures during their co-existence.

    • MixMChess

      The old Khazar myth has been debunked time and time again.

      • Maxie

        "Debunked" in what way? Where and by who? I'd appreciate a reference as I'm currently researching this bit of history. Thanks.

        • shmaya meir

          Absolutely racist drivel which has been used time and time and again by antisemites to try and "minimalize" eastern european jews as not really being of hebrew descent. google, genetics ashkenazi, sephardic and look at the results.
          the most recent studies indicate that there are not just a few genetic markers that are common to both askenazim and sephardim.

          That canard about "khazars" belongs on the stormfront website, not here.

  • http://www.varantmajarian.com varant majarian

    Mr. Sayet just amazing article you wrote congrats

    • http://evansayet.com Evan Sayet

      Hellow Maxie,

      That's all too deep for me. I don't think my brain-dead (but utterly lovable) first cousin who mindlessly pulls the lever for Democrats while spouting the most moronic arguments against those who disagree with him and his new Messiah is doing so because he is a neo-Marxist, Trotskyite or because he has spent even a second thinking about tikkun.

  • http://evansayet.com Evan Sayet

    Let's see what your "logic" is. Secular Jews aren't more likely to vote Democrat than Orthodox Jews because you can name some seemingly secular Jews (as proved by the fact that they don't wear a yalmuke) who are conservatives. Deep, man. You is deep!

    • trickyblain

      Well, I'd say that Horowitz stating "to God's actual existence, I remained stubbornly agnostic" is a bit more proof than not wearing a yalmuke. And his beloved daughter, a liberal, was a practicing Jew, if I remember correctly. All of the others I listed have made similar statements.

      However, Horowitz claims he is Jewish (which he is) and, even though agnostic, identifies strongly with the tradition. But, by your standards set forth here, he is not really Jewish (or at least less Jewish). Or do secular Jews only become less Jewish if they vote for Dems?

      Your sole method of argument seems to be telling others what they believe or feel; it's just silly –hardly "factual." Liberals are depressed. Liberals are angry. Liberals love evil. Liberals think criminals are just. Liberals don't believe in justice. Liberals don't know right from wrong. My logic says that secular Jews don't tend to vote Democrat. Etc, etc., etc.

    • DJKA

      By naming just one secular conservative Jew, he's already come up with more facts supporting his argument than you used in your entire 2-page rant.

  • Flayer

    Loved this article and will forward to many of my liberal Jewish friends. They really don't get me and perhaps now they will. I've always "gotten" them, however.

  • DJKA

    As a Reform Jew (who attended a Conservative shul growing up), president of my college Hillel (many years ago :) ), strong supporter of Israel (real, not J-Street style), and political conservative, (not to mention PROUD to associate with Hasids, Modern Orthodox, and all other Jews), I find this article offensively stupid and childish. I don't know what fever dream produced this image of all liberals as Jew-haters and assimilated Jews as anti-Semites(!), but the name-calling directed at those who don't share the author's particular beliefs is embarrassing. Joining a shul only as a recreation center? One shouldn't spout off in public on topics about which one doesn't know jack squat, and clearly the author doesn't know jack squat about Reform Jews. (Yeah, *Jews.* Sorry to bust your Superior Bubble.)

    Go ahead, marginalize yourself by rejecting the impure of thought, like a 17th-Century Puritan preacher. You won't advance conservative causes or help Israel's image, but you'll sure feel satisfied with yourself. I guess that's what's truly important to you.

    Shabbat shalom!

    • http://evansayet.com Evan Sayet

      It's important when you're going to be "outraged" to make sure you're responding to what that outrage is supposed to have been. I never said that secular Jews are antisemites. I simply said that to expect someone to think a certain way — support certain policies and the like — based on nothing other than some characteristic he had no control over and has no way embraced is a form of racism.

      I do believe that Jew-hatred is ENDEMIC to the Left (as is America hatred) for a very simple reason. When one is so openminded that no culture, religion or individual is allowed to be recognized as better or worse than any other (this is often called "multiculturalism") then the success of the Jews is unjust (why should they succeed if they're nothing special) and the fact that Israel is so fabulously successful means the Modern Libeal HAS NO CHOICE (other than renouncing his ideology) than to deem Israel the greatest injustice in the history of the world. This — and only this — explains the inordinate attention this tiny nation receives, the unparalleled venom that is reserved for it and the willingness to accept and spread any lie on behalf of those who seek their death.

  • http://lrightsideofleftcoast.blogspot.com/ Vladimir Val Cymbal

    This question has been asked many times, each time leaving the questioner wanting for a definitive answer. None of the smart (they are smart) people at the RJC, the Freedom Center, FOX talking heads, or anyone else has answered that question as well as Even Sayet. Think about his answer and you will come to the same solution.

  • Jeanmar37

    Such a clear explanation of something I have puzzled over often. Fray 222's comments were also thought provoking.

  • Ogre

    Very well-written. I have often noted that American Christians appear to support Israel a great deal more than American Jews — and this article really helps to explain why!

  • WilliamJamesWard

    There is still no answer as to why any group of people would take action
    that is not in their best interest and potentially very harmful. On individual
    basis I can see pathology but the large numbers speak to lemmings not
    intelligent people. Culturally we have all benefited from Judaism and
    who can deny the moral height of the Torah and Ten Commandments.
    If the stakes were not so great it would be merely speculation as to what
    is going on in the thinking of so many Jews. A people that has survived
    so much wrong and suffering may have trancendentally jumped over
    the possibility of meaningful associations within cultural expectations.
    I am not a Jew but my mother calimed I had Jewish ancestry. I do not
    think of that as the reason I have Jewish friends and love of the Jewish
    people and the homeland of Jews which is all of the Biblical lands given
    to Abraham. Where this comes from is a poser and part of having
    human spirit and if you will a love of the God of Abraham, Isaac and
    Jacob and love of fairness, justice and the good and beautiful……….William

  • les

    How religious a jew is has nothing to do with whether he is a Dem Or Republican.I am Jewish,non religious,basically non practicing,and never go to temple.I eat on Yom Kipper.However I am a fervent Republican and supporter of Israel.Why? Common sense.All of my Jewish friends are the same and all of the same political persuasion.None could understand the liberal mind.I wont even argue with libs anymore because they either dont make sense or get emotional and wont deal with the facts.Some are now waking up-some-

  • Len Powder

    Sounds to me like the question "Why do Jews vote Democratic?" is moot. The reason they vote for Democrats (Progressives, Liberals, etc.) has nothing to do with their Jewishness. It has more to do with who they are as people – apart from their religion, which is more like a coat you wear to keep out the cold. In fact, although not often discussed (for some curious reason) many of the socialist and communist revolutionaries in history have been "Ploppin Jews". Karl Marx and George Soros come quickly to mind, but there are allegations that Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin and many of their comrades were also "Ploppin Jews". This makes the question of why they vote the way they do even less relevant or important. The significant question to be asked is "Why are so many Jews communists and Marxists?"

  • waterwillows

    It is not so unusual when you think about it. Right from the get-go, even at the foot of Sinai, some Jews have always been hankering after the ways of the gentiles. Things of this nature are….well…. it simply is in the nature of mankind for some folks to go a-hankering.
    The point being, that given the ways of humans…..is it not an 'in your face' miraculous thing that the Jews still do survive as Jews and fully intact? What other nation has done this?
    I see that the Lord's arm is mighty and His arm is not shortened.
    Even when some Jews do not 'oblige' and fulfil the obligations that were accepted at Sinai.

  • Kender

    I am being entertained by the comments from those who disagree, yet offer no facts or sound reasoning in rebuttal. Even more entertaining are those who simply do not grasp what Mr. Sayet is saying and take issue with a simple "you're wrong" statement. Thank you for the chuckles, folks.

    • Carlee612

      Yeah, the truth is a real b*tch for trickybrain and yarmaduke.

      Pass the popcorn.

  • Gamaliel Isaac

    Jews brought socialist beliefs with them from Russia. Golda Meir wrote how after her family moved to Milwaukee her sister would not help her mother with a store she had started because she considered it capitalist. Golda and her sisters were secular Jews. They were very Zionist and wanted to create a socialist Utopia in Israel but they weren't religious Jews.

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      The former spiritual-only-Jewry split into the ethnic-only and spiritual Jews some 150 year ago. The ethnic-only branch happened to be prone to quite various activities: non-Jewish, anti-Jewish or may be even pro-Jewish and pro-Israel. Jewishness as ethnicity does not imply any spiritual/philosophical/political orientation.

  • scum

    The basic mistake here is to assume that the founding of Israel was a fait accompli, that any other position constitutes some sort of 'abberation' of the 'normal' and 'sensible' position. The fact is, Jews were in the forefront of many civil rights causes, primarily because of the ongoing discrimination of conservatives against Jews (Shylock, etc), and because of the refusal to allow Jews to enter the country in any meaningful numbers after the conservatives rammed through the Immigration law of 1924 (Johnson-Reed Act), paving the way for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews in Europe 15-20 years later. Not everyone agreed with the terror tactics of the Stern Gang. (LOL) Let me know if you want another history lesson.

    • Carlee612

      Now, this one is a hoot. Muddy the waters between right and wrong from the opening gate. Then, throw in some tangential "price of eggs in china" comments, and end it with an arrogant–I gave you a history lesson (with 3 finger snaps)–remark. That's the formula for the perfect liberal post. Did you practice that over at HoofPo?

  • abijah07

    Jews are God's Chosen nation, like it or hate it. To be chosen and set-apart by God has to do with His Sovereignty as Creator. To be set-apart is to be holy unto God for His purposes. Scripture records that nations and individuals have been set-apart or made holy to God for destruction as well as for blessing. To be chosen by God can be a hard thing because, whether, a people or an individual, to refuse God means certain destruction while acceptance means service to God and blessing. To be a Plopping Jew or a Jew by seeming accident of birth does not negate being chosen by God, set-apart for his service as His servant and made holy. What is left for the Jew is only acceptance or rebellion. It is the same for a follower of Jesus Christ as Dietrich Bonhoeffer writes in the classic, "Discipleship" or "Cost of Discipleship."

  • http://VocalMinority.typepad.com EricTheRed_VM

    While I don't possess the animosity that some of the Sayet's critics have let loose here, I must respectfully disagree with Sayet's generalization that Reform synagogues are akin to rec centers. I am a Reform-ish Jew (surfing the web on Shabbos) who has worked at a Reform synagogue for over 15 years. They are a very God-fearing congregation dedicated to learning Jewish history, the Holy Books, and the Hebrew language. However, the leadership, clergy, and most members are as liberal as they come.

    Is there a correlation between the depth of Jewish observance and political party/ideology? Absolutely! But Sayet just generalizes too much more my taste. Are some Reform temples like rec centers? Sure. But that's not the default.

    Also contrary to Sayet's contention, Conservative (capital C) congregations may be "Jewishly" more observant, but they are still quite liberal politically. (That's where you will find most of your "Obama yarlmulkes".) A nearby Conservative temple is obsessed with "going green." They're even currently installing solar panels on their roof. So, in my experience, their Jewish practice is deeper, but their politics is the same as any Reform or "Plopping" Jew.

    While Sayet makes some valid points, the conclusion I believe he fails to reach is that the Jews I've described above have made Liberalism = Judaism. For Reform Jews, voting Democrat is the Jewish thing to do. Going green is the Jewish thing to do. Supporting every failed poverty and welfare program for the past 50 years in the name of "social justice" is the Jewish thing to do.

    A Reform rabbi friend said it best when Norman Podhoretz's book "Why Are Jews Liberals?" came out: Why are Jews liberals? Because we're Jews."

    And there you have it.

    Sayet also neglects, probably due to space restrictions, another reason why these Jews are liberal, and that's to be a counter to the Christian right. For Reform and most Conservative Jews to have the same position on an issue as Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, or George W. Bush is verboten!
    The Jewish Republican's Web Sanctuary

    • HollyweirdRitey

      Well said Eric and your clarifications all ring true. I find "plopping" and "country club" perhaps unecessarily insulting of our co-religionists…on the other hand, I think Mr. Sayet had to make his point more forcefully by making these generalizations. Truth is that the the more religious a Jew is the more likely he is to be politically and morally conservative, with some exceptions of course. And since being Jewish was originally defined by its belief in a monothestic morality giving God and justice..where does that leave those who have abondoned it in regards to their "Jewish identity."

    • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

      The statement:

      "Why are Jews liberals? Because we're Jews"

      is wrong! Some Jews became liberal because they rejected or mis-read the Judaism as it was understood for millennia.

  • tim heekin

    Thanks to Mr Sayet! Like others on here I have scratched my head over this mystery for years. I have some good friends that according to Mr. Sayet's reckoning would be Reform Jews. When they told me they were going to vote for O-my-G-d in '08 I was simply speechless. I'm still speechless but at least I now have something to pin this bizarre behavoir on.

  • HollyweirdRitey

    That Category would be "Traitors to their religion and to America" A true disgrace. Your Orwellian name "Young Jewish Proud" is pretty repulsive to those of us who take Judaism and justice seriously.

  • waterwillows

    Jews are people, just like anyone else. There is no 'exemption' for Jews when it comes to choosing between life and death. They may be set apart for service to the Lord, but they have no 'separateness' in the matter of their choices.
    They will receive the same consequences of their choosing, the same as others would receive for folly or wisdom.

    • Maxie

      "[Jews] may be set apart for service to the Lord …"

      Yes Waterwillows but, as with all things, the devil is in the details (of that service) and that's where all the difficulties are generated.
      Reminds me of the old joke: "two Jews, three opinions".

  • papapepe

    Brilliant article. I would add and speculate that the communist raise and subsequent coercion of the Jew’s beliefs in Europe, allowed them to replace the need for something sublime in their lives, that for centuries faith provided, with arts and science. The other factors the ‘big ol’ fall (read rebellion) an the golden calf factor (check in the Bible or in Google-according your wisdom)

  • Leon

    I think the term you are looking for is 'Self-Hating Jew'

  • nes

    The writer distorts the meaning of justice to the liberal, and neglects consideration of the inequities that can come about in the capitalist system. It is a mean-spirited view that the poor are "evil and the lazy" who need to be punished, and the well-off are the "good and decent and hardworking". This article reinforces a long-standing impression: Jews who vote Republican do so not because of Jewish values but to protect the tax laws that favor their wealth.

  • joe

    oh, this is a great article and although hyperbolic, hits the mark. To summarize, most "jews" are socialists and utopians. They cannot break this umbilical connection to the European father/motherland, to marx, engels, freud, and a dozen other misanthropic "jews" who created the socialist/marxist/fascist crucible that was 1800-1900's Europe and metastasized to America. I've sat with "jews" who've openly boasted about their socialist leanings, wealthy American jews who are movers and shakers.
    more in second comment…

  • joe

    continuation…My medical school dean, who was a good friend until a year ago, took exception to some of my emails during the last election. It finally deteriorated into unkind name calling, during which he protested my points that Obama was a terrible mistake for Judaism, and pointed the to fact that his lesbian daughter, her lover, and their "child" lived in Israel, so how could he possibly support an anti semitic Muslimophiliac? How could my former friend do anything that would be anti Israel? How could Obama possibly betray Israel? Couldn't happen, claimed my friend, who said he often lunched with powerful political Jews at his shul in Washington, DC. After all, there's Rahm Emanuel in the White House. They assured him Israel was too important to America to be abandoned and that Obama would never do anything like that.

  • joe

    part 3 – (sorry) …The emails ended with his repulsive sad accusation that there was no talking to me (!) and that he was sorry that my children were infected with my beliefs and were beyond help! (2 teenage boys who spent much of their elementary school lilfe in a Jewish day school that I and my (jew by choice) wife helped to salvage) Infected! Here's infection for him…..a pox on these fellow Jews. They are the most destructive political element in America and I say that because they've introduced European socialism/Marxism/communism, the most vicious ideology on the planet, into American schools, academia, politics, letters, and the media.

    • Maxie

      FYI – It's been pointed out that communism/socialism are, in essence, faith-based belief systems and thus of a religious nature. Marx urged Jews to abandon Judaism and "convert" to his new secular religion which would solve the world's problems.
      The point is that it is futile to argue against any faith-based belief system since logic and factual evidence (the historical failure of socialism) are irrelevant. Faith trumps reason. Ad hominum attacks are the only defense the believer has. In the case of you and your mentor, it was YOU that had to be discredited because your argument couldn't be. I've been thru this myself a thousand times.

    • Maxie

      Part 1. FYI – It's been pointed out that communism/socialism are, in essence, faith-based belief systems and thus of a religious nature. Marx urged Jews to abandon Judaism and "convert" to his new secular religion which would solve the world's problems.

  • Lisa Richards

    Evan, wow! What can I say? As a Christian, I never realized this. It has always bothered me because of the 1400 years of Islamic hatred, plus Hitler and then Egypt in the 50's and 60's. I did not understand why anyone could vote for leftists in either party. Thank you for explaining this. I hope it will touch people to see how we really must look at our candidates and our parties.

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    "… comprised only 15% of Jewish voters" only confirms what I wrote erlier that even the orthodox or conservative congregations also happen to maintain liberal policies. For example, I myself had witnessed refusal of orthodox/conservative rabbis to support the Prop. 8 (to keep the traditional definition of marriage), much less to denounce homosexuality. Nor would they agree to fight against islamization of America. I have not seen them on the street of S.F. protesting the voting proposition banning the Jewish circumcision to infants! They reduced themselves to dispensers of rites rather than being spiritual leaders

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    "… if they were not part of the "believers" whom you idolize?"

    The former spiritual-only-Jewry split into the ethnic-only and spiritual Jews some 150 year ago. The ethnic-only branch happened to be prone to quite various activities: non-Jewish, anti-Jewish or may be even pro-Jewish and pro-Israel. Jewishness as ethnicity does not imply any spiritual/philosophical/political orientation.

    If you care about defence of Israel, no justification nor any place for Israel within secularism can ever exist in this world: literally!

    So do not put those nasty "believers" in the quotation marks.

  • brianr

    Obviously, not all Jewish voters in the US support the Democrats. History and sociology are more relevant to this discussion than religion. The book “Why are Jews Liberals?” (by Norman Podhoretz) offers an interesting study of this issue.
    Also, in practice there is little distinction between Jews who affiliate Reform and Conservative – both are breakaway movements (i.e. heretical sects) which reject the fundamental principles of Judaism.

    • brianr

      To clarify, Reform and Conservative are essentially secular movements for Jews who wish to retain a veneer of religion while absolving them of the need to follow traditional Jewish laws and customs.

  • opar5

    My education has expanded, my ignorance lessened. I thank the author and authors of the highly informative comments.

  • http://www.VeronicaOlofsson.com V.Olofsson

    thank you Evan, xo


  • Gordie

    It has always baffled me how I, a mere gentile, could be more pro-Israel/pro-Jewish than many actual Jewish people are. Maybe it is because, as a kid, I watched the movie "The Ten Commandments". And as I grew up I cointinued believing there actually was a Moses and a Pharoah, there was a miraculous crossing of the Red Sea, and there is an Almighty Delivering God of Israel…but, sadly, many Obama/Pharoah Jews of today think Moses, miracles and God are all fables. It is quite sad, actually. Surely the God of Israel weeps.

  • Janice

    Like all bigots the author puts a box on the floor and dumps a bunch of hyperbole into it along with his integrity and credentials to belong to the human race. He then fills the box with the same statements over and over again until the reader gags with the boredom of his piece. Of course Christians and Muslims must believe otherwise (as they are told) they will go to hell and burn for eternity. If you are weak minded you will believe this crap and accept a hand from your invisible friend, Jesus. Jew's have no such problem to contend with. They made up a God who accepts and loves them without condition as God always has. There are about a million rules surrounding this but they don't matter much anymore. The Christians and the Muslims made one up that hates most of mankind and will not lift a finger to help anyone unless he so desires. He is wrathful, angry and apparently impotent as although he threatens with all kinds of terrible outcomes it never happens. There are far fewer rules but much more public display of how good they all are. Sometime when you all have the time you might read what Jesus said about the Pharisees. They are still among us but they changed the name to Evangelical Christians.

  • ahem

    With due respect, I disagree. Yes, Judaism is as much cultural as it is religious.

    But you're not taking into account the effects of WWII. After WWII, a great many Jews lost their faith and endistanced themselves from Judaism in the irrational belief that it will protect them from persecution should anti-semitism ever again gain the upper hand.

    It's magical thinking.

  • Kivi

    "the long and storied history of antisemitism on the American and European right, which conservatives have very conveniently forgotten over the past 25 or so years. This right-wing antisemitism was based largely on the not entirely false belief that communism and left-liberalism were basically Jewish inventions".

    Is it fair to term recognition of a threat to one's cultural well being coming from Jews "anti-semitism"? Isn't the whole "ism" thing as in "racism" supposed to imply blaming of the blameless for an identifying characteristic instead of behavior? What if the group are blameworthy? i.e. engage in behavior that threatens one's own well being? That used to be called recognizing a threat, not anti-semitism etc. Since leftism mainly in the form of communism had the largest butcher's bill of a hundred million within living memory, it's no small threat either.

    Secondly, there has been a grave misallocation of blame and credit for the events surrounding the second World War. Too much blame has been generalized to all Christians for the actions of a relatively small group of Germans whose Christian connections were tenuous at best (interestingly, all Muslims have not been tarred similarly for their support of nazism). Meanwhile too little credit has been given to western Christians who suffered losses in the millions to put an end to the national socialist regime. Instead of Holocaust museums peppering and wrongly guilting the West, there should be temples of gratitude. Save the holocaust museums for the unrepentant Islamic countries!

  • Kivi

    "liberal (irreligious) Judaism and liberal Christianity have replaced the Bible with the platform of the Democratic party. The excuse is to take an obscure mystical concept, Tikun Olam, and twist it out of shape. It's just an excuse."

    Taking the secular or Reform Jews (and liberal Christians) at their word, and accepting their twisting of Tikun Olam into a Boy Scout helping hand, one needs to explain the near monolithic choice of leftist ways to achieve their stated goal and the studied ignoring of the inconvenient fact that leftist policies leave the people they supposedly want to help much worse off in the long run (e.g. the destruction of the black family with Welfare). Such stubborn behavior contradicts either the intelligence ascribed to liberals including Jews or their stated good intentions.

  • http://none Jenny

    who says these people are Jews, they are Chazars jews who were converted into the jewish faith , around 1215. Should not be confused with the Biblical Hebrews, no blood ties to Abraham.

  • Kevin


    Judaists (who think they are “Jews” but are mostly whites whose ancestors converted to Judaism) live in a delusional world. Their self-serving statements prove that.

    This author, for example, claims that the concept of Justice was a Jewish idea!! Oh, sure, and they discovered water. The entire 10 commandments was plagiarized from the Code of Hammurabi. Ancient cultures far away, who had never heard of Judaism, lived in peace and harmony and had an advanced system of Justice millennia before.

    In fact, the entire Torah (Old Testament) is a violent book and a rehash of African mythology. See: The Forgery of the Old Testament, by Joseph McCabe. So I guess you are claiming that the African savages taught the world Justice!!!

    The Judaists always take any criticism (such as being liberal) and try to twist it around into self-serving delusions, such as proclaiming that they are liberal because they support justice!! I see–claiming to support the corrupt crooked Democratic party to seek Justice is like a trying to start a fish farm in the desert.

  • Kender

    You would fight for north korea? This explains a lot about you. You have no concept of logic…..but you are entertaining.

  • nina

    Ah, but this is not done. You must live in another dimension. You don't see the demonization of Israel, the lies, and the bane of our times; the political correctness. How many people lost their jobs, because thay didn't toe the line? Sometimes I am reminded of the communist country I lived in as a child.