Horowitz and Beck


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HOROWITZ: It’s been a lot easier for me since Obama was elected. With Obama, the left has come out into the open for everyone to see and conservatives are finally waking up to the threat they present. I’ve been sustained by conservative support but before these last few years conservatives never really understood what I was saying, what I was warning them about. I have to say you have been the biggest factor in releasing me from the frustrations of being a Cassandra, a voice crying in the wilderness. I feel very much at peace now. I feel if I had to leave this earth now, there are torchbearers behind me.

When I would watch your show, especially when you were first discovering what was out there, I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. Someone had finally understood what these battles were about and was telling it to millions of Americans. I was just so happy. You know there’s a certain sadness I have because I feel our country hangs in the balance. America is completely unique. There’s no other country in the world like it. Democracy is an experiment that others have tried to follow. But if we’re gone it’s gone.

BECK: I can’t recommend all of David Horowitz’s books highly enough. This guy knows it firsthand. He says it, and he sees the way out. This is just a remarkable book: A Point In Time, The Search For Redemption In This Life And The Next. David is one of the bravest men I know. When he returns home it will be to his Father in heaven not his dad, who was a Communist. His Father in heaven will say a job well done. Good and faithful servant. He has stood against all odds. I tell you David, having spent just four years of my life in this battle I look so eagerly to see if there is anyone who gets it. Is there anyone who will pick up the torch? Is there anyone that can do it? When some of you have felt this about me, I take it as a profound compliment. I keep thinking: is there anybody else who sees it?

HOROWITZ: I think there are a lot of people who do. It’s the first time since I became a conservative 25 years ago I have the confidence that there is finally a conservative movement that understands this.

BECK: It needs to be global. What’s happening in Israel…

HOROWITZ: Israel is the canary in the mine. We are the great Satan, and Israel is the little Satan. If America cannot defend Israel it cannot defend itself. What we are confronting is a global Nazi movement. It’s Islamic Nazism. Hitler hid the final solution from the German people. Ahmadinejad and his comrades shout it from the rooftops. The left sees in Israel a little America. A little imperialist country propped up by the big imperialist country. The left has joined the struggle to destroy Israel and America. It’s mind boggling to see institutions like the Center for American Progress which is the brains trust of the Democratic party carrying water for the Muslim Brotherhood in its attempt to shut down its critics. I’m appalled at what’s happened to “liberalism” in our country. I can’t imagine that when I was a leftist I would have supported a Nazi organization like Hamas. Yet the Nation, the Huffington Post and a vast spectrum of progressive websites have become apologists for these Nazi movements like Hamas.

BECK: We’ve been talking to somebody America should pay attention to. David you know it’s just like Ronald Reagan said: “Time just caught up with me. I didn’t change.” All of it caught up to him. All of your work is being seen for the important work it is. America is no longer dismissing it. We were talking about Israel a second ago. The global change that is coming, and the quote conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories unquote — that there are forces around the world who want to change everything, and they are playing with a fire called Islamic extremism, and want a Caliphate to rule an Islamicized world. Crazy, conspiracy theory.

HOROWITZ: Totally right. The Pew Trusts which is a liberal foundation just did a poll among American Muslims, and found that 60% of American Muslims are concerned or very concerned about growing extremism in the Muslim community in this country. If you say this or I do, we’re “Islamophobes.” There’s a lot of this attitude unfortunately in the Republican Party as well.

BECK: The people that were testifying before Congressman Peter King — the Muslims — were begging America, please help us. Help us. There’s growing extremism in our community; help us.

HOROWITZ: Because America is still a free country it’s basically a happy country. So people have a strong incentive not to want to face dark realities, particularly overseas. In April 1941 Gallup conducted a poll. At that time Hitler had overrun all of western Europe, and the Japanese had overrun southeast Asia. Gallup asked people whether America should get into the war. 80% said no. What changed that, and changed it overnight was Pearl Harbor. We saw one wakeup call over 9/11. But the country went B back to its happy ways. There’s a day of reckoning coming which will cost American lives. And at that point people are going to wake up and understand.

BECK: I’m very concerned that the progressive left, the radical left the revolutionaries that are in office now and have control of the Democratic Party have already done so much…

HOROWITZ: Most Americans actually understand somewhat what’s going on. 70% of New Yorkers were against the mosque near Ground Zero despite all that the Democrats and the cultural elites and a lot of Republicans did in the way of an appeasement dance. So I have great confidence in the American people. They may be slow to wake up, but when they do look out. That’s kind of what kept me going when I was a relatively isolated voice. I’ve lived to see a great wake up call. Starting with your show, and then the Tea Party, which is an amazing development in American politics.

BECK: David Horowitz is the man you’ve been listening to, and the author of a great book, A Point in Time: The Search for Redemption in this Life and the Next. David, I hope we spend some more time together in the future.

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  • mrbean

    Many of Beck's ideas and analysis us accurate, but I am always suspicious of the intellectual capacity of anyone whose comprehensive view of the universe and our place in as a species is based on the offensively anti-intellectual concepts of organized religion.

  • ajag23

    David said to Beck: "When I would watch your show, especially when you were first discovering what was out there, I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. Someone had finally understood what these battles were about and was telling it to millions of Americans." These words of David's were almost identical to what I said to my family when I started watching Beck's TV show.
    I became aware of David Horowitz in the nineties and I even have his signed "Radical Son" on my bookshelf, but I always felt that not enough people had heard his story. I have been concerned ever since my youth about totalitarian systems, first it was the Nazis and later the Communists. As a scientist (and Christian) coming to the US in the fifties, everything seemed to be fine politically, with the exception of the revelations coming out in the McCarthy hearings. Then in the sixties things began to pull more and more to the left, culminating with our own "October revolution" of Nov. 4, 2008. Beck's program was invaluable for waking up millions to the dangers of totaliarism. I am sorry I can't watch him on TV anymore.

    • Fred Dawes

      but understand one thing about beck the guy wants money and was on the right side for a time and now is inside the camp of the one world guys i hope David is not going down the road.

    • Sara

      Beck started his 2-hour internet show Monday. It is very much like his Fox show but twice the time allows him to get into things in more depth. I am so glad he is back!! It is at http://www.GBTV.com

  • Fred Dawes

    Beck has moved into the camp of the one world guys

  • topperj

    You are so full of excrement. Beck is doing what he's always done. He's a citizen trying to alert the rest of the dolts into action. We are in need of a revolution against the Progressives running the administration. They hate America and want it destroyed, no question about it. No one could be this incompetent. All of our economic woes are being exacerbated on purpose.

  • William Rodgers

    this is moronic. "after 911 America went back to its happy ways"???? We have spent $trillions fighting two wars since 911 and continue to send $billions to support Israel, and Beck and Horowitz think America hasn't been doing enough. If these guys are true conservatives, they should be advocating we withdraw all troops out of the ME and stop sending any of our "hard earned money" to that part of the world including Israel.

  • ben

    I agree with Horowitz at least 99% of the time. I am not a red diaper baby but read myself into Marxism by age 12 in 1949. My parents were 5th grade drop-out farm laborers. I was very active from '56 to '78 when i could no longer lie to myself about any hope that vile Marxism could mutate into any decent, humanistic system. I read Ramparts but lost track of Horowitz and evolved unaware of him. Beck is right on target when interpreting current politics but a little off the farther he goes back in time. I am of Sicilian- Irish descent but feel like a blood brother to Horowitz.
    Benedetto T.
    PS. I have a complete set of Ramparts. Worth 25cents?

  • umustbkidding

    Thank you both Mr. Horowitz and Mr. Beck.

    I doubt anyone has a clue how to take the torch and continue, so don't check out yet :))