Horowitz and Beck

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HOROWITZ: It’s been a lot easier for me since Obama was elected. With Obama, the left has come out into the open for everyone to see and conservatives are finally waking up to the threat they present. I’ve been sustained by conservative support but before these last few years conservatives never really understood what I was saying, what I was warning them about. I have to say you have been the biggest factor in releasing me from the frustrations of being a Cassandra, a voice crying in the wilderness. I feel very much at peace now. I feel if I had to leave this earth now, there are torchbearers behind me.

When I would watch your show, especially when you were first discovering what was out there, I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. Someone had finally understood what these battles were about and was telling it to millions of Americans. I was just so happy. You know there’s a certain sadness I have because I feel our country hangs in the balance. America is completely unique. There’s no other country in the world like it. Democracy is an experiment that others have tried to follow. But if we’re gone it’s gone.

BECK: I can’t recommend all of David Horowitz’s books highly enough. This guy knows it firsthand. He says it, and he sees the way out. This is just a remarkable book: A Point In Time, The Search For Redemption In This Life And The Next. David is one of the bravest men I know. When he returns home it will be to his Father in heaven not his dad, who was a Communist. His Father in heaven will say a job well done. Good and faithful servant. He has stood against all odds. I tell you David, having spent just four years of my life in this battle I look so eagerly to see if there is anyone who gets it. Is there anyone who will pick up the torch? Is there anyone that can do it? When some of you have felt this about me, I take it as a profound compliment. I keep thinking: is there anybody else who sees it?

HOROWITZ: I think there are a lot of people who do. It’s the first time since I became a conservative 25 years ago I have the confidence that there is finally a conservative movement that understands this.

BECK: It needs to be global. What’s happening in Israel…

HOROWITZ: Israel is the canary in the mine. We are the great Satan, and Israel is the little Satan. If America cannot defend Israel it cannot defend itself. What we are confronting is a global Nazi movement. It’s Islamic Nazism. Hitler hid the final solution from the German people. Ahmadinejad and his comrades shout it from the rooftops. The left sees in Israel a little America. A little imperialist country propped up by the big imperialist country. The left has joined the struggle to destroy Israel and America. It’s mind boggling to see institutions like the Center for American Progress which is the brains trust of the Democratic party carrying water for the Muslim Brotherhood in its attempt to shut down its critics. I’m appalled at what’s happened to “liberalism” in our country. I can’t imagine that when I was a leftist I would have supported a Nazi organization like Hamas. Yet the Nation, the Huffington Post and a vast spectrum of progressive websites have become apologists for these Nazi movements like Hamas.

BECK: We’ve been talking to somebody America should pay attention to. David you know it’s just like Ronald Reagan said: “Time just caught up with me. I didn’t change.” All of it caught up to him. All of your work is being seen for the important work it is. America is no longer dismissing it. We were talking about Israel a second ago. The global change that is coming, and the quote conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories unquote — that there are forces around the world who want to change everything, and they are playing with a fire called Islamic extremism, and want a Caliphate to rule an Islamicized world. Crazy, conspiracy theory.

HOROWITZ: Totally right. The Pew Trusts which is a liberal foundation just did a poll among American Muslims, and found that 60% of American Muslims are concerned or very concerned about growing extremism in the Muslim community in this country. If you say this or I do, we’re “Islamophobes.” There’s a lot of this attitude unfortunately in the Republican Party as well.

BECK: The people that were testifying before Congressman Peter King — the Muslims — were begging America, please help us. Help us. There’s growing extremism in our community; help us.

HOROWITZ: Because America is still a free country it’s basically a happy country. So people have a strong incentive not to want to face dark realities, particularly overseas. In April 1941 Gallup conducted a poll. At that time Hitler had overrun all of western Europe, and the Japanese had overrun southeast Asia. Gallup asked people whether America should get into the war. 80% said no. What changed that, and changed it overnight was Pearl Harbor. We saw one wakeup call over 9/11. But the country went B back to its happy ways. There’s a day of reckoning coming which will cost American lives. And at that point people are going to wake up and understand.

BECK: I’m very concerned that the progressive left, the radical left the revolutionaries that are in office now and have control of the Democratic Party have already done so much…

HOROWITZ: Most Americans actually understand somewhat what’s going on. 70% of New Yorkers were against the mosque near Ground Zero despite all that the Democrats and the cultural elites and a lot of Republicans did in the way of an appeasement dance. So I have great confidence in the American people. They may be slow to wake up, but when they do look out. That’s kind of what kept me going when I was a relatively isolated voice. I’ve lived to see a great wake up call. Starting with your show, and then the Tea Party, which is an amazing development in American politics.

BECK: David Horowitz is the man you’ve been listening to, and the author of a great book, A Point in Time: The Search for Redemption in this Life and the Next. David, I hope we spend some more time together in the future.

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  • Abraham83

    (continued from above)
    In 1941, the left–a vocal and active part of the political opposition–was an ally of our government, and did not hinder our efforts against the common enemy. Today, the situation is quite the reverse with the left in active opposition to our defense and strongly in league with our enemies.

    • Indioviejo

      Abraham, the left supported the war only after Hitler attacked Stalin. I hope you can see this.

  • Chezwick_mac

    Interesting revelation here by David (though I'm sure he's spoken or written about it before). His early perspective that LBJ was certainly a preferable captor than Ho Chi Minh – at the very time that he was advocating against the former and for the latter – shows that he had creeping doubts long before his actual epiphany.

    David is a complex man, almost enigmatic. He is a brilliant intellectual who – during a significant portion of his adult life – was remarkably misguided. He is a profoundly ethical man, reflected in his life-long search for the truth and his continued ability to learn, to grow and to change. Yet, he was also a man of pronounced (and self-acknowledged) personal failings.

    And therein lies the quality that impresses me the most about the man…(and in many respects, is the litmus test for all of us, distinguishing the enlightened from the less so): David's ego – which I'm sure he'll admit was considerable – was nonetheless transcended by his honesty. And what he learned about himself – both good and bad – he volunteered to the world in detail…in order to give context, depth and insight into his story…and his message.

    I'll certainly be purchasing my two copies of 'A Point in Time'.

  • Ron Livaudais

    Horowitz is a rare breed in that he is intellectually honest. he was a Communist, saw the
    Error of his ways, and now promotes ideas that really work, ideas of individualism,
    Self-reliance. Limited government. His is a Story that needs to be heard. it is a wonderful
    Story that he tells in a very articulate manner, both honest and transparent…May God
    Continue to bless you and give you a long life so many others can be blessed by your
    Unique story…

  • Steve Chavez

    I see Ahmadinejad is coming to Columbia again and already is said to get a warm welcome. Huh? Then David Horowitz shows up and all hell breaks loose?

    David Horowitz is the enemy of the Left and every fight David has been in, he's never lost. This man is a Walking Encyclopedia and it's impossible to out argue him.

  • StephenD

    Excellent comments Abraham, Chezwick, Ron and Steve. I can't add a word though I want to heap praises on both of these men. I've read David's works. He is that voice crying in the wilderness it seems. Beck being off Fox is a blow to many folks. Regardless, we can't afford to be without either of them and if there is anything we can do to ensure their voices are heard we should do it. I hope they'll let us know.

  • Asher

    David and Glenn are both courageous Heroes. Keep putting the Truth out there, Freedom knows no Cowards!

  • TK Heekin

    the best modern autobiography is Horowitz's "Radical Son" only Hirsi Ali's "Infidel" comes close and they both are attacks on totalitarianism

    • tanstaafl

      Hirsi Ali has another book out – "Nomad". It's a good read as well.

  • Abraham83

    What seems to be the difficulty in Frontpagemag printing my comments on the Horowitz interview? I was automatically warned several times that my comments were too long and to shorten them. I did so by breaking up my entry into 4 segments, which seem to have been promptly accepted without further protest, but none but the last segment appeared in the "Comments" column for the Horowitz interview.

    Now I see that Chewick_Mack has a quite long comment printed in its entirety. What gives? How does one get a longer comment accepted? Why does it work in some cases (Chezwick_mac) and not in otheres?

    • tanstaafl

      I've had similar problems as yours. I purposely keep my comments brief.

    • Chezwick_mac

      Hang in there Abraham.

      I've never gotten a 'shorten your entry' notice, but on several occasions, I've gotten a "your comment is awaiting moderation by the web-master" or something to that effect. It then disappears into a black hole.

      So, the site has a few bugs in it. But be patient. While it draws some real nut cases from the extremes of both left and right, it is overall an invaluable tool to access stories and opinion that are otherwise blacked out by the MSM. And David himself is an icon, an aging warrior who continues to battle with wit and grit on all of our behalfs.

  • devita

    No one one this earth can explain the Left like David! Thanks for writing about David’s interview for those who don’t listen to Glenn Beck – Everyday I am inspired by Mr. Horowitz and his insight into what I, as a conservative, never knew existed!

  • Fred Dawes

    Horowitz and Beck have a point but that point can become a weapon for good or evil.

  • mlcblog

    Having been in those same commie trenches in Berkeley with Mr. H and having also had my epiphany, brought to me be Christian businesspeople who taught me about myself and our country, things I did not know or had only hoped could be true, I rejoice greatly at his success in telling his story to so many and alerting the sleeping giant that is America, the great experiment, about the evils of our enemies.

  • crackerjack

    Just a little history for glenn and David.

    1941, the USA went to war together with the communist Soviet Union, even occupying Iran as a route to ship arms to Stalin.
    In the 80's, the USA allied with the Afghan Radical-Islamists against the Soviet union, providing arms and cash while the Mujihadinn stoned women, burnt schools and dicapitated enemys.

    So much concerning the US as the center of global moral, freedom and democracy.

    So much concerning

    • fiddler

      Hey crack, did we get it right later? Where is YOUR standard? Do you enjoy armchair quarterbacking? Glenn and David talked about PEOPLE not being the paragons of morality. Nope, mankind is at best flawed. GW gave a lot of money to Africa for aids, many of our people were mowed down at Omaha beach. We have contributed millions and millions of dollars of foreign aid to many nations. Those nations come to us when they're in trouble.

      I'll tell you what, to assuage your guilty conscience, get a big map of the US and throw darts at it every day. Get a mirror, hold an American flag next to you and spit repeatedly at the mirror until you have no spittle left in your mouth. Bang your head against the wall until you collapse. Just do it out of sight of others. Perhaps after doing regimens such as these and wearing yourself out, you might consider looking at what other nations have done for us. I say, "Send back the Statue of Liberty" to France. After all, "Give me your tired, your poor" is not part of our constitution. Rather, it should say, "Give me your GRATEFUL, your PROUD". Grateful people give a rip about this nation. Perhaps you don't!

  • crackerjack

    Lets be real fiddler. The US was founded on the genocide of the native population and erected with slave labour. The US is no more exeptional than any other nation.

    And Glenn and David are making no sense. If its the individual counts, why glorify the nation? If the individual must battle against the institutes and administration of the nation to preserve his freedom, why should the individual be grateful and proud of the nation?

    • Chezwick_mac

      The Atlantic slave-trade and the Native-American genocide are indeed formative features of American history. This is undeniable. But violence, mass murder, and displacement of people are features in the historical development of most nations on earth.

      What makes America exceptional – among many other things – has been its open acknowledgement and subsequent rectification of its historical sins. We fought a Civil war to free the slaves…and a Civil Rights movement to end discrimination against their descendents. And after the Indian wars, Native Americans were granted complete autonomy to live under their own laws. Those among them who wish to assimilate have been welcomed to do so. Their population over the last century has recovered impressively.

      America is a country inhabited by all races, creeds and colors; where racial and ethnic discrimination is prohibited; where – unlike throughout the Muslim world – gender and religious equality is the law of the land; where (legal) immigrants and refugees are welcomed with open arms; and where traditionally – a meritocracy invites success by most anyone willing to work hard enough.

      Contrast this reality with Turkey, which stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the Armenian genocide of 1895-96 and 1915-16; with Sudan, which actually celebrates its genocide of southern Christians and animists (1982-2003); with Malaysia, which has affirmative action laws to protect its Muslim MAJORITY at the expense of its Chinese and Hindu minorities; with India, where a thousand years of Muslim genocide against Hindus have been whitewashed via a grotesque historical revisionism; with China, where the Tibetans and other minorities have their cultures brutally repressed up to this day; in fact, with country after country around the planet where denial of historical sins is the norm.

      And we haven't even touched upon America's remarkable economic, cultural, and technological achievements.

      Yep…I'd say America is pretty darn exceptional indeed.

      • crackerjack

        Every nation and culture is exceptional in its own rights and has ist merits and demerits. Addressing historic wrongs is no justification to claim exeptionalism. Germany is not exeptional for addressing the holocaust.

        This constant US exceptionalism mantra has the feel of insecurity and an inferiority complex being counterbalanced.

        • Chezwick_mac

          "Every nation and culture is exceptional in its own rights and has ist merits and demerits"

          Ahhh yes, the relativist mantra…"all cultures are equally valid"

          It's a vapid as saying all ideas are equally valid. As we all know, some ideas are brilliant, some are conventional, some are downright stupid. Similarly, some countries have advanced human progress ever so slightly more than others.

  • polipath

    " The US is no more exeptional than any other nation"
    So what's your explanation for why so many people keep coming here to live? Do you think it might have something to do with the abundance of opportunity here and the freedom (fast disappearing) to take advantage of it?
    Your criticisms are right out Howard Zinn. Lame.

  • Fred Dawes

    You do know that Beck wants the VAT TAX And he is now about helping to get a World tax and that total corrupt carbon tax that we Americans will pay for or be put in prison or killed? its called evil,
    for one i will not pay the obama healtcare tax THAT BECK WANT US TO.
    and if the money is taken from my pay check or out of my bank i will not work and i will close that bank and get out of the cities and do the right thing, if you know what i mean?

    • Sara

      No, I do not know what you mean. You need to prove your assertions about Beck because I think they are complete garbage.

  • SHIRLEY PIPITONE

    THIS IS THE BEST AND CLEAREST EXPLANATION I HAVE READ. GO BECK, GO HOROWITZ, GO LOVERS OF OUR COUNTRY AND ISRAEL.

    S. PIPITONE

  • SHIRLEY PIPITONE

    LET US FORGET THE SQUABBLES, AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE PLEASE.

    PEACE OR WAR ? I LONG FOR WORLD PEACE.

    S. PIPIONE