UCLA Daily Bruin Prints Center’s “Wall of Lies”


Every year, campus hate groups such as the Muslim Students Association and Students for Justice in Palestine join a festival of lies called “Israel Apartheid Week” whose theme is that Israel is an apartheid state (false – Israel is the most tolerant and diverse state in the Middle East) and that its security fence is an “apartheid wall” (false – the wall is a fence put up to keep suicide bombers out and has reduced Palestinian terrorist attacks against Jews by over 90%). These hate weeks are designed to de-legitimize Israel and soften it up for the kill. The declared goal of Hamas and the PLO is to “liberate” Palestine “from the river to the sea” – in other words to destroy the Jewish state and push its inhabitants into the sea. The growing BDS movement on campus (BDS stands for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions, which are the steps the movement advocates taking against Israel for its purported policies of “apartheid”) is another element in the jihadist assault.

Until now, there has been no national campaign to counter this sinister agenda which has been financed by student governments and supported by academic departments. (At UC San Diego last year, one of the sponsors of the hate week was the Thurgood Marshall College, named after the famous civil rights leader, thus insulting both Jews and African Americans.) But this year, the David Horowitz Freedom Center is sponsoring counter-protests on more than 50 college campuses, as part of its Islamo-Fascism Awareness Campaign. Taking inspiration from Jumanah Albahri’s admission of a genocidal agenda in her confrontation with David Horowitz at UCSD, the focus of this spring’s campaign will be Islamic extremists’ genocidal intentions and their campaign of lies during the genocidal Anti-Israel Apartheid Week.

As the centerpiece of the Freedom Center’s counter-protest, student groups will confront the “apartheid walls” with our center’s “Wall of Lies,” which is composed of the anti-Israel lies Palestinians promulgate with the intention of destroying the Jewish State.

The UCLA Daily Bruin has just printed the center’s Wall of Lies, which is depicted in the graphic above, and is also printed below. To learn more about the Wall of Lies, visit WallofLies.org.

  • Fred Dawes

    you may as call this A World of Lies, the muslims/Islamo Fascism is well understood, so many enemies and fools are now inside the USA Its a joke, the school system is a joke so many enemies are now inside the system we can never come back to a normal world of education. and we can save nothing but we can start to see the orld as it is not as we want to see it.

    • Phillip Galey

      Well, yeah but, don't be too bummed out; as used to be done, burning up the piles of dry leaves, . . . we can have a good war, and get a lotta things cleaned up—ay?

      • muchiboy

        "we can have a good war"

        There may be a "justified war",but there is never a good war.The war against the Nazis was justified,if only based on their genocidal actions against the Jewish citizens of Europe.I don't know of a good war. muchiboy,on behalf of my band of brothers and sisters,every where,throughout human history.

        • CanadConserv

          Perhaps. But it was those leftists suffering Bush Derangement Syndrome, such as yourself, who kept calling Afghanistan "the good war" or describing it as such. Which was to contrast it with the bad war in Iraq.

          Of course, once a left wing Democrat admin prosecuted the wars, both became good.

        • Kevin

          @ Muchiboy, agreed

          U.S.A.F. TAC 69-73

  • PAthena

    Another lie is that Arabs are "Palestinians." The Roman Emperor Hadrian in 135 A.D., after having defeated the last Jewish rebellion under Bar Kochba, renamed Judea "Palestina" in order to eradicate all memory of Judea and the Jews (he also outlawed Judaism). From that time, over 1800 years, "Palestine" was synonymous with "land of the Jews" or "the Holy Land" (since Jesus was from Judea), and "Palestinian" was synonymous with "Jew." That is why the Zionists wanted to go to "Palestine," and Great Britain was awarded the "Palestine Mandate" after World War I to be "homeland of the Jews."
    In Cairo, in 1964, Gamal Nasser (who had expelled all Jews from Egypt, where Jews had lived for at least 2300 years) and the Soviet Union (continuing the Russian tradition of antisemitism) invented the "Palestine Liberation Organization," with all the phony history and propaganda about Arabs as "Palestinians." These Arabs do not deserve anything but the truth, certainly not yet another state.

    • Phillip Galey

      Well put, . . . very well put, . . .

    • Supreme_Galooty

      PAthena, your summary is so well constructed, so succinct, that I have copied it to my collection of quotations. If you don't mind, from time to time I would like to simply paste parts of it into other threads, or on other boards with the attribution, "PAthena." (Or is it P Athena?)

    • crypticguise

      Excellent point!

  • http://tamaraheater.wordpress.com Tamara

    Many are surely regretting their "reach out and touch someone" policies right now….I am unable to rest…knowing that our so called president is hell bent on allowing Israel to be surrounded. Even some in Israel continue to call for their own demise….I liken Islam unto the cannibalistic tribes……it does not matter how long ago it was ….people who roasted people on the spic knew it was wrong …….but had to be shamed to death to admit it….and these tribes shall admit it also!

    • muchiboy

      "bent on allowing Israel to be surrounded."

      Well,every country is in some sense surrounded,Tamara.Israel is no different.And when you chose to re-create (colonize) an ancient biblical state from (occupied) Palestine,well of course you are going to be "surrounded" by (hostile) Arabs.What did you expect,a love in? muchiboy

      • CanadConserv

        First nations peoples are still wondering when you'll leave occupied Canada and return to your proper home.

        • ebonystone

          Of course, the first nations were pretty good at pushing each other around, too; so that some of them are really the second, third, or umpteenth nation to occupy a particular piece of ground.

          • CanadConserv

            True. And that applies to Arabs too.

      • MixMChess

        Tamara, you are absolutely right, muchiboy is an idiot and a racist Canadian corrections officer.

        Zionism did not "colonize" Israel, especially given the accepted definitions of colonialism and imperialism. "Colonialism is a system in which a state claims sovereignty over territory and people outside its own boundaries, often to facilitate economic domination over their resources, labor, and often markets." Zionists did not come to the region as tools or representatives of any nation. Jews came from nations across Europe and the Middle East. They did not represent any "colonial" nation, come in the service of those nations, get support from them or have allegiance to them. They did not form a colonialist outpost for any nation. The Jews simply came to Israel to join the indigenous Jewish population and rebuild their homeland.

        Besides, Jews had been returning to the region for millennia, long before Western nations became powerful, before Europeans dominated the area, and before the Balfour Declaration and the Palestine Mandate. In fact, in the 19th century, the Western nations refused to give official help to the Zionist effort.

        Zionism has NEVER been viewed as colonialist tool, but rather as a fulfillment of national self-determination. Even the League of Nations recognized as much in the Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine from 1921.

        So muchiboy is there a reason why you continue to repeat the colonialism LIE? Don't worry, I know you are too much of a COWARD to respond to my comments. Too many bumps from your prisoners huh?

      • MixMChess

        Occupation? Nonsense…

        The early Zionists did not disrupt the cultural history of Palestine. Recall, Jews had been returning to Palestine for two millennia. The Jews returning in the 19th and 20th centuries were merely part of this age-old pattern. Besides, there was never a stable indigenous population unified by a common culture in the holy land EXCEPT for the Jews. The so-called Palestinians were foreign interlopers (from Egypt, Arabia, the Caucus region, Russia, the Balkans and N. Africa) who had started colonizing the land in the 18th and 19th centuries.

        Of course, the early Zionists legally purchased the land on which they built their state. Most of the land Zionists bought was unpopulated and vacant. In fact, as policy, Zionists bought land that would not displace the local population. In fact ant-Israel historian Benny Morris concluded that only a handful of Arabs were displaced by land purchases, of which, the majority were displaced by social and economic forces that had nothing to do with Zionism.

        Interestingly enough, the Arab population grew and benefited because of Jewish settlement. And as Jewish settlement developed, Arabs from outlying regions and from other countries immigrated to these areas because of the economic boom the Zionists had created.

        Whoops, I just owned muchiboy.

      • So Cal Mike

        Buzz off Muchiboy.
        Once you leave people asking if you’re lying or stupid more than 2 or 3 times, the actual answer no longer matters.

  • Robert Laity

    ISLAM IS EVIL.

  • Watchman

    I believe when it comes to voting for politicians; they must be supportive of removing these people from our country. They are Americas enemy. They are Israels enemy. The government allow these people on campuses to brainwash our kids. American government is broken. The only question is; can it be fixed? I never thought growing up that our country would turn into a communistic controlled government calling itself progressive. I never thought that both parties would ignore the Constitution and have a government that truly isn't for We The People. Americans have their guard down because Thomas Jefferson warned about not letting this happen to our government. I truly wonder if there is a country on earth left that you can live without all the bullcrap that's going on here???

  • muchiboy

    FPM's "Wall of Denial" may indeed be more pitiful and dangerous then a mere wall of lies.At least a lie can be readily disproved to any and all with a reasonable mind and lacking an agenda.Your use of half truths,flawed but intentional logic,and just plain deceit and mean spiritedness renders this wall more suitable to a public bathroom then a site for common debate.
    Just as any reasonable person would acknowledge the dear and historical bond of Jew and Israel/Palestine,so to would any sentient,wakeful person who had access to the daily cartoons acknowledge if not recognize the Palestinian people,even if such acknowledgment stuck in ones craw.Wake up,FPM,and smell the coffee.muchiboy

    • John

      I refuse to recognize absolutely anyone that uses ignorance, violence and hatred for recognition. That includes the Palestinian people's and their leaders who constantly attempt to hijack any attempt for Israel to live in the peace they deserve as a nation or the Jews as a people. I would feel the same way about the KKK or Black Panthers or Nation of Islam in America. This "wall of lies" is exactly what is needed on college campuses to dispel the amount of blatant lies that have been circulating in the colleges by mean-spirited, left-winged, liberal, freedom hating professors. Now couple that with an American administration bent on covertly supporting these lies. You seem to have bought the lie yourself. So why don't you wake up and smell your own coffee because you seem not to understand the difference between the truth and a lie yourself. See what the UN, through the UNWRA, has perpetrated upon the Palestinian people along with the PA, Hamas, Hizbollah, Al-Quida, etc. Even the most of Palestinian people want to live and simply take care of their families but are constantly caught in this vice. Who do you think most of the builders are that build these places in the settlements? Many of the Palestinians who only want to work that's who. Does the PA provide jobs? Does Hamas provide jobs with some sort of dignity? Well, do they? You sir, are the very kind of individual that I feel compelled to fight against because you are part of a very prejudiced serious problem and in your intellectual self-righteousness will bring destruction upon us all. Go try to sell your ill-informed rhetoric to some other hateful ill-informed person. From what I've seen you'll have a large audience with other ignorant people.

    • CanadConserv

      The palestinian people are primarily Egyptians – none other than Arafat being born in Egypt, and Jordanian. That`s why so called Palestinian decried the occupation when Egypt possessed Gaza and Jordan the West Bank. Neither did any other Arabs decry this occupation. Nor anyone else. the Palestinian people were only discovered when non Arabs controlled those lands.

    • MixMChess

      "At least a lie can be readily disproved to any and all with a reasonable mind and lacking an agenda.Your use of half truths,flawed but intentional logic,and just plain deceit and mean spiritedness renders this wall more suitable to a public bathroom then a site for common debate."

      You should know considering you constantly repeat lies, fabrications and downright libel about Israel and Jews in general. Pot. Kettle. Black. Wake up and smell the coffee genius.

      • Supreme_Galooty

        In this case I do believe that you misspelled, "geniass."

        • MixMChess

          Haha, thanks for the correction buddy!

    • MixMChess

      Ron Grant, (aka muchiboy), you need to recognize the Palestinians are foreign interlopers who colonized Israel in the 19th century and only became "a people" when Yassir Arafat reinvented the term "Palestinian" to refer to the foreign colonialist Arabs/Muslims. They are no more real than the Klingons, Wookies, Na'vi or Hobbits.

    • evabeliever

      Ron Grant or Lessiboy as I prefer to call him is a rabid anti-Semite. What is great about his posting is that he exposes his ignorance in every post. he knows nothing about the Middle East yet he never ceases to post. What an ignorant fool he truly is!

  • ze-ev ben jehudah

    We are on the eve of a complete reversal.The Muslim Brotherhood will
    become the dominant ideology and a Muslim theocracy like Iran will
    reign the whole of the midle Eastern region.The only democracy is Israel
    and the pranging question will be,will Israel prevail the oncoming massacre
    wich those bearded Allah adepts are prommising from the early onset on of
    implementing onto the Jewish people. Many of whom are Holocaust survivers
    and the childeren of camp survivers.The U.N. is a farce and will look the
    other way.The European community!! most of them are silent antisemites
    and they also will turn their faces the other way.America?!! as lang as Barack
    Hussein Obama sits the oval office!!they also will not interfere.
    In 1948 Nasser declared,together with most other Arab nations,war on the
    Jewish state.Nowadays at least 5 Arab countrys have or will have a nuclear
    arsenal to their posession and among them Iran will cerainly use them to
    destroy the Jewish state.The united social democratic facists of Europe
    attempted a compete annihilation of the Jewish race,6 million where
    slaughtered.Jews all over the world said;no more,no more will we be let
    to the facists slaughterhouses we will defend and fight till the last Jew fals
    like Massada once.So Israel has got to use his nuclear arsenal and what
    will rise out the ashes of this new Sodom and Gemorrah!!! will be a mystery,
    but the box of Pandora will be opened by one or the other.

    • Supreme_Galooty

      The opening of Pandora's Box would be devastating for all. (I remember the last bar fight I was in. I knocked out two guys. I won. It took me two months to heal.) There is hope, however, and a great deal of that depends on education in America. I'm not talking about schooling here. I'm talking about man to man, honest to God education of our fellow citizens, so that we never again have to suffer the disaster of another Obama.

      I've heard that in retaliation for the bombing of the marines in Lebanon, Reagan very quietly, systematically sank the entire Iranian navy. Should America once again get a President with that kind of testicular fortitude, Israel should breath a lot easier. Just as an aside, I can see Palin with that kind of strength but not Romney; Christie but not Huckaby; Rubio but not Bush.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        We definately need a war time president……………William

    • SMISAC

      This is why we must not rely on our governments: Our fight to preserve freedom and equality of all before the law, will be fought by grassroots groups made up of free individuals of conscience, across the globe.

  • John

    In order to discover much of the truth we have to study history more. So much of what we hear in regards to this has been blatant lies in an attempt to discredit Israel. It's very calulated and planned out and the number of people that buy those lies is increasing. I'm very happy to see this Wall of Lies posted, especially in a place such as UCLA. UCLA is now located in a very heavily Arab populated section of Los Angeles. Thank you for having the courage to speak up.

    The place where these sorts of lies should be dispelled is in the Church. Until we realize what our obligation and connection is to our Jewish brothers and sisters is the lies will continue. All you have to do is open the Bible and read. See what Zechariah 12 says. Read Romans 9-15. Ezekiel, Jeremiah, etc. It's all right there and there's nothing ambiguous about it.

    • muchiboy

      "our obligation and connection is to our Jewish brothers and sisters"

      Speaking as a Catholic,I say we had the chance and blew it a long time ago,not to mention six or seven decades ago.And what of our Palestinian brothers and sisters,they don't count? Seems to me a workable formula for a self fulfilling prophesy.If it's not blame it's denial.That certainly loads the dice in your favor.muchiboy

      • John

        Yes, our Jewish brothers and sisters. Well, since you're a Catholic, do you read the Bible? The Catholics that I know do. For you read Romans 9-15. That will answer it all for you. If you're anti-semitic, then you're anti-Christ. He wasn't an American Indian you know. We as Christians follow a Jewish Messiah. You just might, simply for the fun of it, pick up a copy of the Bible and read it yourself.

        Of course everyone counts, didn't you take the time to read my response, but not if they are the ones that are creating all the turmoil, then playing the blame game while pretending to be innocent. They are not. Israel isn't lobbing rockets in Gaza or anywhere else, into civilian populations, blowing up buses, etc. They are. You can't have it both ways. Either you attempt to really create peace or you don't. I do not see it coming from the PA, Hamas, former PLO, etc. I'll bet you really don't either. Read the book. Read the book. Read the book.

        • MixMChess

          John, muchiboy is not a true Catholic. He is a a racist Rhodesian corrections officer living in Ontario, Canada. His comments are rife with antisemitism and racism. He has long been a cheerleader for Israel's destruction and the genocide of Jews. I guess it's hard to tell if muchiboy has any humanity at all…

          • John

            Thanks MixMChess. It's difficult to know just from a post. I appreciate you alerting me.

  • Maggie

    New World Order comes into being by a union of politics and religion.
    Remember Obama's speech in Cairo?
    Stating that the US is the "largest Muslim Nation in the world?"
    Look out Israel and all non-muslims!

  • muchiboy

    "I refuse to recognize absolutely anyone that uses ignorance, violence and hatred for recognition"

    Why do you and others refuse to acknowledge the legitimate and moral rights of the Palestinian people to their homeland and birth right? You simply and greedily don't want to share the land and resources you occupied by hook or by crook with those Arab Palestinians who lived side by side with Jewish Palestinians for decades and centuries.Lets be very clear on your motives and agenda.muchiboy

    • http://tamaraheater.wordpress.com Tamara

      why you do …..you clearly despise a tiny nation…..and I shall remind you, Pre, during and post WWII, the Jewish people were practically forced to go to "Palestine" for which there has never been a nation called such! Israel is tiny, but you will say oh what do you expect???? I EXPECT EVEN THE SAND MUTS TO WAKE UP AND START ACTING LIKE HUMAN BEINGS INSTEAD OF SAVAGE BARBARIANS…….OR THEY CAN EAT SAND, PERHAPS TAKE A LONG SAND NAP….IF THEY CONTINUE TO ACT LIKE RAVENOUS WOLVES!

      AS LONG AS YOU CANNOT RECOGNIZE THE EVIL ISLAM IS …..I REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE YOU FROM THIS MOMENT FORWARD….WHATS-HIS-NAME!

    • MixMChess

      "You simply and greedily don't want to share the land and resources you occupied by hook or by crook with those Arab Palestinians who lived side by side with Jewish Palestinians for decades and centuries."

      Sharing land? Arabs currently illegally occupy over 85% of the Jewish National Homeland. Israel has consistently given up land to her detractors: the Sinai in 1979, Gaza in 2005 and the W. Bank has been autonomously governed by the Palestinian Authority since at least the mid-90's.

      But lets talk about other resources. Israel shares its water with the Palestinians in Gaza and the W. Bank. Israel even has water rights agreements with Jordan and has been willing to negotiate water rights with the Syrians in the Golan. As for electricity and fuel, Israel provides electricity to both Gaza and the W. Bank and imports fuel to the Gazans on a weekly basis.

      Utilities aside, Israel provides massive aid to the Palestinians. Israel provided 1 million tons of humanitarian aid to Gaza in 2009 alone, and continues to ship supplies to Gaza 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year. Israel has provided the W. Bank Palestinians with economic and financial aid which has allowed the W. Bank to experience an economic boom (8% increase in 2009 alone) with fancy hotels new entertainment and stores in places like Ramallah.

      Israel provides so much to the Palestinians, and what does it get in return? Nothing but hatred, xenophobia and murder of Israeli children.

      So who is really greedy by hook and crook muchiboy?

    • Robert Laity

      The "promised" land was given to Israel by Yaweh. It belongs solely to the Jews.
      Living "side by side" with the Jews does NOT render the Arabs co-owners of the "promised" land.

    • IndyIsDave

      Ron Grant, aka" "muchiboy" (whatever the heck that doltish moniker is supposed to mean), you truly are a very silly little man with no knowledge of history. It's one thing to have an opposing viewpoint, but when you either invent "facts" or deny undeniable historical facts, you further prove that leftists and antisemitic bigots are fools and liars. Some advice, and I don't care if you asked for it or not…get off the computer and head down to the local library and maybe, crack a real history book open. Your ignorance is truly astounding and if you had one shred of self-respect, you'd be ashamed and embarrassed.

    • ajnn

      So many conclusions and all of them not based on the actual facts.

      1. The oerwhelming majority of the palestinian arabs came from syria in the 1920's and 1930's.

      2. we should remember actual facts / events.

      (i) The israelis left gaza in 2005. this was the 100th anniversary of the 'gaza lynchings' that made 'jewish gaza' into 'arab gaza'. hundreds murdered and the rest made refugees whose land was then 'appropriated' by the arabs.

      (ii) arab hebron became arab in 1929 when the arab lynch mobs in this jewish city murdered hundreds and made refugees of the rest of the community. this is how another jewish community became arab.

      this is the cionsistent tale in israel of the last 1,000 years. jews lynched and their land stolen.

  • CanadConserv

    You continuously overlook that the majority of palestinians are only 3rd adn 4th generation, their ofrefathers having moved there in the late 1800s and early 1900s to avail themselves of economic opportunity created by Jewish industry, agriculture and services, an economy, in other words.

    Which is not to say that some Arabs weren`t living there too. But that doesn`t confer upon them a right to Arab-Muslim statehood on what is Israel.

    In the aftermath of WW1, as you know, nearly two dozen Arab states were formed, including Palestinians (Jordan and southern Syria), on lands that were deemed by the United Nations to be part of the Jewish state that would arise. Palestine would be yet another Arab state.

    That you`re supportive of all these new Arab states but can only decry the one Jewish state, exposes a terribly prejudice and moral blindness on your part.

    • http://tamaraheater.wordpress.com Tamara

      I am absolutely positive there were some Gazans who loved Israel just like Jews do or did….. In fact I know so….and good gwad… before Lebanon was poisoned by the same toxin as the Gazans..(IRAN)…Lebanon was the French Rivera of the Mid East with a tourist and fashion industry…..now it is a ghetto of savages. You are absolutely correct, the Arabs should look to them selves to be creative, but they are to busy beating their wives, and children, continue to inbreed, and look like cave men and doing the barnyard dance with the goats.

      And they dare point a finger and decry infidel?????? The infidels are within Islam !

      And someone will defend their wolfpack mentality of these Islamo-commie-nazis, (ICN) AGAIN..???????….in the modern world….??????? no less than 60 years after the Holocaust????…May those who defend these scumbags who cry death to Israel……disappear is a dust storm!

      The biggest mistake of Andy Stern and Odammo….they began this movement too soon …went and stirred u the natives and …and we will crush them! NOT EVER AGAIN!

    • tagalog

      The people who are referred to as Palestinians, to the extent they're native to the Holy Land, are the descendants of the Philistines. Whatever else is true, the Israelites defeated the Philistines in war and took their land for Israel. They won it fair and square in a fair fight. Ask David and Goliath and Samson. I might add that the Israelites fought with slingshots and jawbones of asses in order to make it a fair fight.

      Those Americans who don't agree with the legitimacy of ownership by right of conquest should set the example for the rest of us by moving themselves and their loved ones back to Central East Africa, down around the Olduvai Gorge. That includes the so-called "Native Americans," who also won their ancestral lands through conquest.

      • CanadConserv

        The Philistines are unlikely to be forefathers of the palestinians. More likely they're simply long gone with known descendants.

        • MixMChess

          The Philistines have no relation to "modern" Palestinians. The Philistines from ancient times were of Greek origin. Archeological evidence shows that they are closely connected with Mycenean (Greek) culture and colonized modern Gaza. The Philistine culture became extinct around the time of King David. The term Philistine was resurrected by the Romans to refer to the land of Israel in the first century AD. The Romans renamed the land to "add insult to injury" to the recently defeated Jews.

          • CanadConserv

            thanks for the detailI had actually meant to say, no known ancestors. But, from you say, perhaps they are known.

  • Steve Chavez

    REVENGE OF THE NERDS! I looked over this article several times and went to walloflies.org thinking this had to be a prank especially since the Lies were printed in a college newspaper. Wow!

    When the Tea Party organized their first protest here in Albuquerque, I thought there would be a hundred if that so I didn't go. I do attend almost every Peace and Justice/ANSWER rally with only a handful of counter-protesters. To my surprise, there were 7000 and they lined a main road during the rush hour and some were calling into the Live local radio. Then Glenn Beck's rally of 600,000 was a surprise too. THE NOVEMBER ELECTION WAS ALSO PART OF THIS "REVENGE!"

    IT LOOKS LIKE THE SILENT MAJORITY IS RISING UP! REVENGE OF THE NERDS!

  • http://www.chick.com Raymond

    After a 14-year-old Bangladeshi girl named Hena Begum was forcibly raped, kicking and screaming, by a 40-year-old married man on Sunday, Jan. 30, a Shariah court the next day sentenced her – the rape victim – to receive 100 lashes for having engaged in an illicit "affair." Henna was given no chance to appeal, and the sentence was carried out immediately. After between 70 and 80 lashes, the little girl collapsed into unconsciousness and was taken to the hospital – where she bled to death.

    Islamic apologists will tell you such an atrocity is an abuse of Shariah law, or the excess of some remote, rural tribal council. Hogwash. Rape victims are frequently flogged and imprisoned under Shariah, as when a Saudi court in early 2009 sentenced a 23-year-old female who had been gang-raped by five men to 100 lashes and a year in jail. Her crime? Accepting a lift from a man who drove her against her will to his house and took turns, with four of his friends, raping her. Same with a 2007 case where the Saudi Justice Ministry sentenced a girl gang-raped by seven men to six months in prison and 200 lashes.

    Speaking of Saudi Arabia, who can forget when the kingdom's "religious police" allowed 15 young girls to die horrible deaths when a fire broke out in their school in Mecca on March 11, 2002? The religious police, or Mutaween, literally blocked firefighters from saving the girls because they weren't dressed in the proper Islamic way for girls and women to be seen outdoors. With helpless firemen watching, the religious police literally beat the girls – those who were not wearing their headscarves or abayas – back into the inferno.

    This criminally insane behavior, my friends, is Shariah, the barbaric, seventh-century legal system Islamists are hell-bent on imposing on the entire world.

    In the wake of the Egyptian turmoil and subsequent abdication of the presidency by Hosni Mubarak, the Obama administration has had many opportunities to weigh in on the Muslim Brotherhood, the shadowy transnational Islamist organization dedicated to establishing Shariah throughout the world, including in America.

    As is usual for Obama – who seems secretly to empathize with everything subversive and anti-American – the president has refused to condemn the Brotherhood. His director of national intelligence, James Clapper, went a step further, downplaying the Brotherhood's influence and ambitions and bizarrely referring to the dedicated Islamist group as "largely secular."

    Since the Obama administration apparently has such a difficult time thinking logically about anything, let's reduce the facts of Shariah and the Muslim Brotherhood down to a simple, inescapable, purely logical syllogism:

    Shariah – Islamic law – is unspeakably cruel, barbaric and inhuman.
    The Muslim Brotherhood is unalterably dedicated to imposing Shariah on the entire world, with a special emphasis on America.
    Therefore, the Muslim Brotherhood is America's enemy.
    Nothing could be clearer than this. And yet, the Muslim Brotherhood – while preparing for an ever-larger role not only in Egypt but throughout the Middle East – is also making major inroads, through its many proxies, right here in America.

    And it is doing so by employing the exact same dual strategy the left has successfully employed for decades to transform America.

    Whether it's Marxism or Shariah Islam, efforts to transform America always seem to involve two fronts. And though we generally win the overt, intimidating, threatening battles, we always lose the covert, seductive, "peaceful" battles – and thus we lose the war.

    To understand how Islam has made such remarkable inroads into Europe and the U.K., and how the same fate awaits America if we don't wake up, let's get our bearings by taking a quick trip back to pre-transformation, "normal" America.

    • kafirman

      Very nice Raymond. You are correct about the priority of the softer parts of warfare over the bombs and bullets aspect.

      It is probably an exaggeration, but the US does not always lose the "peaceful" battles. Rifqa Bary (in US domestic court) and Lara Logan (international news) are examples of victories, as is the election of Allen West.

      Keep up your activism and I'll keep up mine. Maybe soon we'll hear the first US politician openly question the wisdom of granting 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status to an institution which supports sexual slavery (Koran 4:3) and religious apartheid (Koran 9:29).

      • http://www.chick.com Raymond

        Hi Kafirman.
        Many people support/embrace islam because they
        are evil. There is another group of people that
        support/embrace islam because they are incredibly
        stupid. Everyday I fight for America, but i'm afraid that
        i'm fighting a losing battle.Time will tell.

        • kafirman

          Raymond, you are one of the unsung heros….

          Islam prevails becuase of a lack of exposure of its evil. Islam cannot stand a half dozen more Lara Logan PR disasters.

          If Republicans set up a conference and had Mosab Hassan Yousef speak, Islam would almost dead. Three such conferences and terrorism will go to near zero. Add Zakarias Botros and it is end game.

          Bullets and Bombs are necessary, just not that necessary. Maybe I should place a phone call to Allen West…

          • http://www.chick.com Raymond

            Hi Kafirman.
            I was recently kicked off http://www.motherjones.com
            because I was talking about how evil Islam is.
            I was also talking about Obama's connection
            to said evil. The above mentioned website
            is based out of San Francisco which explains
            a lot. By the way, are you Jewish? Just wondering.
            Raymond. :-)

    • Kevin

      Frightening isn't it ? Even more frightening is the rush to support Sharia under the guise of religous freedom in America, they have no idea

  • muchiboy

    " the Jewish people were practically forced to go to "Palestine"

    Guilty.The Europeans have a shameful history of persecution of the Jewish people.And if Israel had been re-created decades previously,maybe there would not have been a Holocaust with a capital H.And maybe if the Zionists had not insisted on colonizing Palestine but rather the highlands of Uganda,millions of Jews would not have perished.
    And just as there is a connection between the Holocaust and the re-creation of Israel,there is a connection between that re-creation and the Palestinian holocaust,or Nakba.Even Palestinians recognize the connections,if the Jews don't.Palestinians refer to themselves as "victims of victims",recognizing not only their status of victims of Zionism,but the Jews status as victims of genocide.

    " for which there has never been a nation called such!"
    A red herring if ever there was one.Are we lawyers here,arguing contractual law,or are we arguing a humanitarian tragedy and looking for solutions?Not only do you blame,you deny.
    " I EXPECT EVEN THE SAND MUTS TO WAKE UP AND START ACTING LIKE HUMAN BEINGS INSTEAD OF SAVAGE BARBARIANS."
    From where I stand,Tamara,Israel's behavior towards the Palestinian people and Arab neighbors belongs where Israel belongs,in the ancient ,pre-biblical era.Jews have no room to talk when it comes to behavior towards her enemies.Your behavior is typical of the region,not of a western liberal democracy.Even the Egyptian army shows more restraint and conscience then the IDF towards its own people(i.e.Intifada).

    "OR THEY CAN EAT SAND, PERHAPS TAKE A LONG SAND NAP….IF THEY CONTINUE TO ACT LIKE RAVENOUS WOLVES!"

    It is unfortunately much too common to blame the victim then to acknowledge the role of the victimizer in context.If the Palestinians are to play their rightful role in the middle east the more powerful of the engaged parties i.e.the Israelis,must acknowledge their role in the continuing demise of the Palestinians.Perhaps they have too much to lose,or perhaps they can't see the moral forest for the trees.muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      "And maybe if the Zionists had not insisted on colonizing Palestine but rather the highlands of Uganda,millions of Jews would not have perished."

      Actually, it was the xenophobic Palestinians who prevented Jews from emigrating to the Holy Land so they could escape the impending Nazi terror against them. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Jews were killed in Europe because the Palestinians lobbied the Nazis not to allow them to emigrate.

    • MixMChess

      "And just as there is a connection between the Holocaust and the re-creation of Israel…"

      The Holocaust had nothing to do with the world community's commitment to restoring the Jewish homeland in Israel. The Balfour Declaration was issued in 1917, approximately 20 years before the Holocaust. The League of Nations Palestine Mandate, committed to reconstituting the Jewish homeland, was issued in 1920, again approximately 20 years before the rise of Nazism, WWII and the Holocaust. Don't forget, the Zionist enterprise in Israel had started in the 19th century well over half a century before Nazism, WWII and the Holocaust.

    • MixMChess

      "… there is a connection between that re-creation and the Palestinian holocaust,or Nakba. Even Palestinians recognize the connections,if the Jews don't.Palestinians refer to themselves as "victims of victims",recognizing not only their status of victims of Zionism,but the Jews status as victims of genocide.

      The supposed "Naqba" and the Holocaust are not remotely comparable. To draw a parallel between them is a distortion of history and morally repugnant. The Palestinians were NEVER "helpless victims". They CHOSE to go to war and mounted a full-scale military attack against the Jews. In contrast, "the Jews of Europe never armed and initiated hostilities against Germany or any other European nation." They were a small minority. The Nazis adopted a policy of exterminating every Jewish man, woman and child in Europe.

      The Palestinians were not "defenseless victims". They were "surrounded by friendly nations who took up arms in 1948 for their cause and who offered them sanctuary". In contrast, "Jews were not surrounded by friendly nations that gave them refuge, or suppied them with armies and arms to defend themselves." The Jews literally were "abandoned" by the world.

      Any Palestinian suffering is self-created. To draw a parallel between Palestinian self-created suffering – losing land, not being allowed to resettle in neighboring Arab states – and Holocaust victims is "absurd and repugnant." Recall, during the Holocaust, Jews had "no options." While Palestinian Arabs could have stayed in Israel, as 150,000 of them did, and become citizens of the Jewish state, Jews had NO recourse. Jews did not just lose their homes: "They were dispossessed, enslaved, tortured and 6 million were slaughtered, 2/3 of European Jewry."

      Palestinians have been organized and have had the support of Arab nations since the 1920's. They could have had a state many times (1937, 1947, 1979, 2000), but each time rejected compromise, and instead chose war, violence and genocide to destroy the Jewish state and steal all of Israel. Jews were never hostile to Germany. They were an integral minority in German society. They did not seek the genocide of the German people.

    • MixMChess

      "From where I stand,Tamara,Israel's behavior towards the Palestinian people and Arab neighbors belongs where Israel belongs,in the ancient ,pre-biblical era.Jews have no room to talk when it comes to behavior towards her enemies.Your behavior is typical of the region,not of a western liberal democracy.Even the Egyptian army shows more restraint and conscience then the IDF towards its own people(i.e.Intifada)."

      Wrong again muchiboy… The intifada in 2000 was a war of destruction and genocide against the Jewish State. When the war "unofficially concluded at the end of September 2005, more than 2,100 Palestinians and 1,061 Israelis had been killed." However, the "disproportionate" number of Palestinian casualties was primarily a result of the large number of Palestinians involved in violence and terrorist attacks against Israel. It is also "the inevitable result of an irregular, ill-trained group of terrorists attacking a well-trained regular army." The unfortunate death of "noncombatants" was largely due to the regular habit of Palestinian terrorists using CIVILIANS as HUMAN SHIELDS.

      What is more "revealing" is the specific breakdown of the casualties. According to one study, "Palestinian noncombatants were mostly teenage boys and young men," which "completely contradicts accusations that Israel has ‘indiscriminately targeted women and children.'" The study concluded only ONE reasonable explanation for this pattern: "that Palestinian men and boys engaged in behavior that brought them into conflict with Israeli armed forces.” I guess the Palestinians shouldn't have attacked and terrorized Israelis?

      By contrast, the number of women and elderly among the Israeli civilian casualties "illustrates the randomness of Palestinian attacks, and the degree to which terrorists have killed Israelis for the 'crime' of being Israeli or Jewish."

      Bottom line, Israeli troops do not target innocent Palestinians, but Palestinian terrorists do target Israeli civilians.

    • MixMChess

      "the Israelis,must acknowledge their role in the continuing demise of the Palestinians."

      What demise? Just look at the basic demographics!

      In Gaza, for example, the population increased from 731,000 in July 1994 to 1,324,991 in 2004, an increase of 81 percent. The growth rate was 3.8 percent, one of the highest in the world. According to the UN, the total Palestinian population in Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem was 1,006,000 in 1950, 1,094,000 in 1970, and grew to 2,152,000 in 1990. Anthony Cordesman notes the increase “was the result of improvements in income and health services” made by Israel.

      The Palestinian population continues to grow exponentially!

    • EVAbeliever

      Lessiboy: you continue to display your complete ignorance. You are a fool! Everything you say is wrong and you continue to live in your own delusional world.

    • IndyIsDave

      Huh? Put the bong down and read a book dude!

    • ziontruth

      "And maybe if the Zionists had not insisted on colonizing Palestine…"

      It is by definition impossible for a Jew to be colonizing Palestine; that is because Jews are the indigenous Palestinian nation. Only other nations can be colonists in Palestine, and indeed that is the case with the Arab settlers who have falsely taken the name "Palestinian" on themselves.

      "…but rather the highlands of Uganda,…"

      You'd be bitching about Jewish "anti-black racism" toward the "Ugandastinians" today. Like the dinosaur DNA in Jurassic Park, Jew-hatred always finds a way.

      ",Israel's behavior towards the Palestinian people and Arab neighbors belongs where Israel belongs,in the ancient ,pre-biblical era."

      Yeah. Because it's so Biblical to exercise restraint for so many years in the face of rocket attacks on your towns.

      Israel is none of the things its enemies accuse her of being, but you know what? If we're already being accused, perhaps we might as well earn it. And we'll also gain ourselves real peace in the process. Beware the day when Israel gets true Jewish leadership that acts as the Torah says a Jewish State should! The Torah's rules of warfare are such that, when Israel follows them (soon amen), you'll all be begging Israel to come back to acting as it does today.

    • ziontruth

      "And maybe if the Zionists had not insisted on colonizing Palestine…"

      It is by definition impossible for a Jew to be colonizing Palestine; that is because Jews are the indigenous Palestinian nation. Only other nations can be colonists in Palestine, and indeed that is the case with the Arab settlers who have falsely taken the name "Palestinian" on themselves.

      "…but rather the highlands of Uganda,…"

      You'd be whining about Jewish "anti-black racism" toward the "Ugandastinians" today. Like the dinosaur DNA in Jurassic Park, Jew-hatred always finds a way.

      ",Israel's behavior towards the Palestinian people and Arab neighbors belongs where Israel belongs,in the ancient ,pre-biblical era."

      Yeah. Because it's so Biblical to exercise restraint for so many years in the face of rocket attacks on your towns.

      Israel is none of the things its enemies accuse her of being, but you know what? If we're already being accused, perhaps we might as well earn it. And we'll also gain ourselves real peace in the process. Beware the day when Israel gets true Jewish leadership that acts as the Torah says a Jewish State should! The Torah's rules of warfare are such that, when Israel follows them (soon amen), you'll all be begging Israel to come back to acting as it does today.

  • sodizzy

    I find great encouragement that the Bruin published this.

  • muchiboy

    "The palestinian people are primarily Egyptians – none other than Arafat being born in Egypt"

    You must have gone to buy some more popcorn and coke during the intermission of Exodus.Most of the Jewish immigrants were European e.g.Polish,Russian,etc.Golda Meir being born in Ukraine.David Ben-Gurion,the Father of the Nation,was born in Poland.Golda Meir points out in her biography that early on Yiddish was commonly heard in the Knesset.And you have the arrogance and gall to justify your position on the Palestinians by accusing them of being outsiders.Your argument lacks credibility.muchiboy

    • ziontruth

      "Most of the Jewish immigrants were European e.g.Polish,Russian,etc.Golda Meir being born in Ukraine.David Ben-Gurion,the Father of the Nation,was born in Poland."

      1) Not "most." In fact, today, the majority of Israeli Jews are of Arab-world extraction.

      2) A Jew is a Palestinian no matter his country of origin. Only a Jew is a Palestinian, and no member of any other ethnicity is a Palestinian.

      "David Ben-Gurion,the Father of the Nation,"

      That would be "father of the state." The father of the nation is Jacob a.k.a. Israel, of Biblical fame.

      • MixMChess

        "1) Not "most." In fact, today, the majority of Israeli Jews are of Arab-world extraction."

        You are exactly correct ziontruth, refugees from Arab and Muslim Middle Eastern and North African countries and their descendants make up over 50% of the Israeli Jewish population.

    • MixMChess

      "And you have the arrogance and gall to justify your position on the Palestinians by accusing them of being outsiders."

      Palestinians are outsiders, foreign interlopers if you will. Even anti-Israel historian has admitted that the Palestinians originated from the surrounding Arab countries, N. Africa, East Europe, the Balkans, the Caucus region and Russia.

      • MixMChess

        <anti-Israel historian Benny Morris>

    • John

      The world is round and we have proof. We can tell you obviously do not believe this regardless of the proof, however, a man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument. Let me put to you another way. The world is still round whether or not you demand that it is flat. You've become tiresome and boring now. I believe in Israel and G-d's people.

      • muchiboy

        "You've become tiresome and boring now."

        Maybe intense debate is not your forte,John.muchiboy

        • Spirit_Of_1683

          Jew-baiting is your forte, Naziboy.

        • John

          No, debating is wonderful. With people that are somewhat intelligent and not so filled with obvious hate. I'm not going to try and convince a steel-trapped mind. Lie in your own filth and clean it up yourself.

      • ziontruth

        "You've become tiresome and boring now."

        I beg to differ: Muchiboy was already tiresome and boring when he first started commenting here.

        In fact, the only reason I still bother with him is that answering him might provide ammunition to defenders of Israel in other situations. His blatherings, after all, are standard fare on lefty sites like DailyKKKos, even though he claims not to be a left-winger himself.

    • CanadConserv

      My point is that both groups are primarily new arrivals. Therefore the argument that the Palestinians are the native people and consequently have been occupied, is bogus, based on myth making.

      What is fact is that the Jews have a far better claim to the land as its indigenous people, last displaced by invading Arabs.

  • http://www.chick.com Raymond

    May God Bless & Protect the Jewish nation of Israel
    and the Jewish people. The Jewish people are a special
    people unto God.

  • muchiboy

    "First nations peoples are still wondering when you'll leave occupied Canada and return to your proper home. "

    Given the double digit negative temperatures outside,that has a certain appeal,CanadConserv.Don't know that I could get used to the kilt,but I kind of like the keffiyeh,it's somewhat fashionable these days.
    The migration of peoples has been a part of mankind's journey since "out of Africa" days.Historically,there have been benefits and losses,with important exchanges of technology and knowledge on both sides.The most important distinction between the occupation and colonization of America and Israel ,beside the significant fact that Israel colonized Palestine when the European powers were freeing theirs,lies in the status of the original settlers today,i.e.1st nations vs Palestinian Arab.Today,in both America and Canada,all the descendents of these peoples share in the life and opportunities of these countries,have all the rights,including some we don't,and are citizens.Unlike Israel,where the majority of Palestinians and their descendents are denied their homeland and birth right.To add shame to ethnic cleansing,Jews,no matter where they are born,have a right of return ,while even those Palestinians(war refugees) born in Israel prior to Independence,much less their children,grandchildren and great grand children,are denied that right.Again,your argument lacks credibility.muchiboy

    • CanadConserv

      Ron, not sure how you see the distinction you do. Native peoples here have no more a privileged position than Arabs in Israel. In fact, far less. Any natives on Canada's supreme court? How many in media or academia? How many in parliament? There are far more Arabs in such positions in Israel. And of course they are not occupied. Neither are Arabs in Gaza.

      Arabs the West Bank are semi occupied, having their own government, living under their own laws and education system, their own media, something of a seat at the UN, and diplomatic representatives wherever they choose to send them.

      And they are semi-occupied by choice, which I`ll come back to.

      By your definition, natives are more occupied than Palestinians and you (and I) are the occupiers. But whereas natives will never be offered independence in exchange for allowing Canada to live in peace, that is the offer to Palestinians not in Israel proper. They have refused this offer since the UN first made it to them in 1948. It is not a conflict over territory, but over Israel's very existence.

      If West bank Arabs would only take yes for an answer, then they can re-settle all their descendants as they please. Gazans could do that right now.

      But, as pointed out, most Palestinians didn't originate on these lands anyhow. They migrated after the Jews arrived in the later 1800`s, to enjoy the benefits of agriculture, services and an economy. In contrast, the real indigenous people are the Jews, who were conquered by invading Arabs. Those Arabs will continue to possess (occupy!) most of what was once the Jews. Meanwhile, the Jews will settle for a fraction of what was historically theirs, and a fraction of what was promised after WW1 when so many Arab states were created.

      Given that the only nation on all this Earth you consider illegitimate is the one and only Jewish (postage sized) state, while there are 23 Arab staes covering a land mass larger than NA, including palestinian Jordan and large minority palestinian Lebanon and Syria, only prejudice can explain your perspective. Or left wing brainwashing, fogged as it with residual guilt over western imperialism – but blind to far greater and longer Arab imperialism. Which explains their march against the Jews and others.

  • muchiboy

    "First nations peoples are still wondering when you'll leave occupied Canada and return to your proper home. "

    Given the double digit negative temperatures outside,that has a certain appeal,CanadConserv.Don't know that I could get used to the kilt,but I kind of like the keffiyeh,it's somewhat fashionable these days.
    The migration of peoples has been a part of mankind's journey since "out of Africa" days.Historically,there have been benefits and losses,with important exchanges of technology and knowledge on both sides.The most important distinction between the occupation and colonization of America and Israel ,beside the significant fact that Israel colonized Palestine when the European powers were freeing theirs,lies in the status of the original settlers today,i.e.1st nations vs Palestinian Arab.Today,in both America and Canada,all the descendents of these peoples share in the life and opportunities of these countries,have all the rights,including some we don't,and are citizens.Unlike Israel,where the majority of Palestinians and their descendents are denied their homeland and birth right.To add shame to ethnic cleansing,Jews,no matter where they are born,have a right of return ,while even those Palestinians(war refugees) born in Israel prior to Independence,much less their children,grandchildren and great grand children,are denied that right.Again,your argument lacks credibility.muchiboy

    • ziontruth

      Shorter muchiboy: "The argument I make against Jews in Palestine can't be applied to me, because I'm not planning on getting my butt out of the comfort of my Canadian home any time soon. Justice must be done, but not when I'm on its receiving end."

  • dawning

    What a welcome post. To see a major college paper print the truth for a change is truly encouraging. ISLAM IS HELL ON EARTH!!!!!

    • scum

      So exactly what's your policy prescription? Go kill a billion Moslems and get it over with?

  • steven L

    It appeals to the basic instincts of the individual man and masses of man!

  • muchiboy

    "Which was to contrast it with the bad war in Iraq"

    Initially I was in favor of American,even Canadian, troops going into Iraq (Iraq ll).I still have uncertainties,either way.But given the aftermath of the war,I have to think the elder Bush made the wiser decision the first time round in stopping short of deposing Hussein.Just glad I don't have to make those kind of decisions,CanadConserv.Hard enough sometimes just deciding who to vote for.

    • CanadConserv

      If Iraq should stabilize as a democracy – which would be something of a miracle given iran`s efforts to undermine that eventuality – then the war will have been proven wise. If it collapses into, again, a repressive authoritarian state, then it will have been a waste.

  • S E CLEM

    THE ARAB WORLD WAS ALIGNED WITH HITLER. THE MUFTI OF JERUSALEM WAS AN ALLY, , AND PERMANENT GUEST OF HITLER UN BERLIN. THIS FACT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED. IT SHOULD NOT GO UNCHALLENGED. THE UCLA DAILY BRUIN NEEDS TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER, AND BE EDUCATED. I RECENTLY SAW A RANDOM INTERVIEW BY SOMEONE FROM STAND WITH US, THE LEVEL OF IGNORANCE DISPLAYED BY THE STUDENTS WAS MIND BOGGLING. ONE EVEN SAID THAT THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS IRAN. ANOTHER, THAT THERE ARE 4, OR 5 MAJORITY JEWISH STATES. AND IT GOT WORSE. THE EDITORS OF THIS PAPER NEED AN EDUCATION. WHETHER THEY WILL BE WILLING TO FILL THEIR EMPTY HEADS WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE, IS A BIG " IF'

  • Ashter

    One thing you are not talking about are the Christian Arabs that have been in that region for centuries. They are Palestinians and they suffered the worst persecution. They now only represent 15% of the population – if that.

    • MixMChess

      Ashter, while Christians are unwelcome in Islamic states such as Saudi Arabia, and most have been driven out of their longtime homes in Lebanon, Christians have always (and continue to be) welcome in Israel. In fact, Israel is the only Middle East country where the Christian population has GROWN in the last 60+ years (from 34,000 in 1948 to approximately 145,000 today). Israel is also the only Middle East country that guarantees Christians freedom of religion, civil rights and equal protection under the law.

      Conversely, under the Palestinian Authority, the Christian population is declining, about 27,000 Christians live among 3 million Muslims. The proportion of Christians in the Palestinian territories has dropped from 15 percent of the Arab population in 1950 to less than 1 percent as of 2004! Over Three-fourths of all Bethlehem Christians now live abroad, and the majority of the city’s population is Muslim. The Christian population declined 29% in the West Bank and 20 percent in the Gaza Strip from 1997 to 2002. By contrast, in the period 1995–2003, Israel’s Arab Christian population grew over 14%!

      Samir Qumsiyeh, a journalist from Beit Sahur, told the the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that Christians were being subjected to "rape, kidnapping, extortion and expropriation of land and property." Qumsiyeh, compiled "a list of 93 cases of anti-Christian violence between 2000 and 2004" and specifically mentioned the "case of a 17-year-old girl from [his] town who was raped by members of Fatah." He added that “almost all 140 cases of expropriation of land in the last three years were committed by militant Islamic groups and members of the Palestinian police” and that the "Christian population of Bethlehem has dropped from 75 percent in 1950 to 12 percent today." Qumsiyeh warned that if these trends continue, “we won't be here any more in 20 years."

      Why is it that Israel protects Christian Arabs whereas the Palestinians persecute them?

      • Ashter

        Part of my family lives in Israel and are originally from Nazareth and Bethlehem. Most of my family, like me live abroad now. I can't speak for the rest of my family, but there was a time where we believed the great Arab lie.

        It is sad that that beautiful region has been torn apart by the terrorist activities and Muslims. I thank God every day that I do not have to live under them and live in the United States now.

    • muchiboy

      "One thing you are not talking about are the Christian Arabs"

      My grandfather was a Christian Palestinian born in Bethlehem.The demise of the Christian Arabs does not relieve the Jews of the occupation of Palestine and the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.muchiboy

      • MixMChess

        Are you a complete moron? Read my previous comments dispelling your myths… I suspect you will be to cowardly to respond to me so do me a favor and just try doing actual research and reading before blabbing on like a moron.

      • John

        Yes, I concur with MixMChess. Did you bother looking up anything anyone here has asked you to research? Didn't think so. Let me ask you a question. Yes or no, do you support Hamas? Do you want the Jews gone from Israel? Just curious because you, from many of your comments you appear to.

    • anti-fascist18

      Persecuted by THEIR OWN…their Moslem thug brothers. Killed in fact, yet no one cries out for them. They shun the Israelis who would help them and either suffer in silence or move out.

      Personally Israel would have been better off if it had FORCIBLY REMOVED all Palestinian Moslems incapable of living in Peace with Israel, and allowed the Christians, Bahais and others to stay. Instead they negotiate with murderers and forcibly removed their own people.

  • muchiboy

    "THE ARAB WORLD WAS ALIGNED WITH HITLER."

    So were Italy and Japan.Now our loyal and trusted allies.There were lots of Nazi sympathizers in Europe and America,many in positions of power.My God,Germany was arguably the most civilized and technologically advanced country in the world.

    "THE UCLA DAILY BRUIN NEEDS TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER, "

    The world needs to get its act together,and that includes Israeli policy towards the Palestinian people.When a Black,Democratic, American President,named Obama, can't tell an ally such as Israel (to which it gives billion$ in foreign aid) to stop the settlements, when he was able to tell Egypt to toss Mubarak,it is telling,and something stinks to heaven somewhere.
    As to the ignorance of our young people in world affairs,I am generally impressed with our youth,but then haven't had the experiences you have had.Things may have changed some since my youth in the sixties.If so,they may make up for that deficit in their tolerance to others and their concern for the environment.But maybe those are youthful qualities anyway and I'm just a grouchy old man.Certainly our Universities have changed greatly with the influx of visible minority,non Christian students that reflect our non traditional immigration patterns.muchiboy

  • muchiboy

    "THE ARAB WORLD WAS ALIGNED WITH HITLER."

    So were Italy and Japan.Now our loyal and trusted allies.There were lots of Nazi sympathizers in Europe and America,many in positions of power.My God,Germany was arguably the most civilized and technologically advanced country in the world.

    "THE UCLA DAILY BRUIN NEEDS TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER, "

    The world needs to get its act together,and that includes Israeli policy towards the Palestinian people.When a Black,Democratic, American President,named Obama, can't tell an ally such as Israel (to which it gives billion$ in foreign aid) to stop the settlements, when he was able to tell Egypt to toss Mubarak,it is telling,and something stinks to heaven somewhere.
    As to the ignorance of our young people in world affairs,I am generally impressed with our youth,but then haven't had the experiences you have had.Things may have changed some since my youth in the sixties.If so,they may make up for that deficit in their tolerance to others and their concern for the environment.But maybe those are youthful qualities anyway and I'm just a grouchy old man.Certainly our Universities have changed greatly with the influx of visible minority,non Christian students that reflect our non traditional immigration patterns.muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      "So were Italy and Japan.Now our loyal and trusted allies.There were lots of Nazi sympathizers in Europe and America,many in positions of power.My God,Germany was arguably the most civilized and technologically advanced country in the world."

      The difference is our "trusted allies" and Germany itself has dispensed with its Nazism. The Palestinian on the other hand continue to embrace Nazism. Look no further than the terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah who still use the "Nazi salute." Mein Kempf is a best-seller in the Arab/Islamic World and Adolf Hitler has become a folk hero. The Palestinians are the only natural heirs to the Nazis. The fact that you are blind to this shows your sympathy with neo-Nazi movements and the Palestinian plan to exterminate the Jews.

    • MixMChess

      "The world needs to get its act together,and that includes Israeli policy towards the Palestinian people."

      Actually, the world needs to get its act together with the Palestinian policy of genocide and extermination directed at Israel and Jews worldwide. Hamas regularly fires rockets at Israeli kindergartens and day cares. Hezbollah leaders have promised to kill every Jew worldwide. The Hamas charter calls for the worldwide extermination of Jewry and they have promised to drink the blood of every last Jew on earth.

      "When a Black,Democratic, American President,named Obama, can't tell an ally such as Israel (to which it gives billion$ in foreign aid) to stop the settlements, when he was able to tell Egypt to toss Mubarak,it is telling,and something stinks to heaven somewhere."

      First of all, the U.S. spends vastly more on other allies (mostly on security) than it spends on Israel. This aid is in the U.S. defense budget, not in the foreign aid budget, because U.S. troops are deployed in or near those countries.

      Second, The US has spent billions on other Arab states including Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iraq. The US recently pledged another $500 million to the worthless Palestinians. When will the US demand Palestinians stop terrorizing, murdering and raping Israel?

  • muchiboy

    "your assertion that the Land of Israel belongs to a nation other than the Jews. "

    You got it half right,ziontruth.My position is that you cannot exclude either the one (i.e.Jew) or the other (i.e.Arab) from their rightful claim.muchiboy

    • ziontruth

      "My position is that you cannot exclude either the one (i.e.Jew) or the other (i.e.Arab) from their rightful claim."

      If the other claimant is the Arab nation, then the claim must be laughed out of court. The plaintiff is suing for the one single item that defendant has, all while himself possessing more than 20 items. No court of law would deliver a verdict in favor of the plaintiff in such a case. In fact, the Arabs themselves know this–it's why they invented the faux-Palestinian nation in the first place, to make it as if the plaintiff and the defendant were of equal status, each claiming one item and possessing no other. But this ruse, this ploy, loses on the Court of Truth.

  • USMCSniper

    Hey muchiboy, it is a matter of record that Palestinians are Jihadists who strap munitions on their own women and children and send them out on homicide-suicide missions to murder other innocent women and children in markets, restuarants, on school buses, and in their homes. The Palestinians in their own words and by their actions are committed to the genocide of the Jewish people therefore, have foreited their rights to even exist at all let alone having a UN and US sanctioned terrorist state of their own. Let the Muslim Arab States take them in and return all of Israel's homeland,

    • BS77

      Muchiboy is an indoctinated leftist …..Muchiboy…take a long walk on a short pier.

  • http://www.chick.com Raymond

    AFA-Michigan’s news release this week calling on Gov. Rick Snyder and legislative leaders to act to protect taxpayers from being forced to fund spousal-type benefits for the homosexual “partners” of state employees.
    Glenn said the state should instead limit such benefits only to legally married employees as an incentive to encourage and promote marriage, an institution which social studies prove reduces poverty and the need for law enforcement, social welfare, and other government programs. Bottom line: incentivize and promote more marriages, get less government at less cost to taxpayers.

    Former Gov. Mitt Romney’s responsibility for the actual implementation of so-called homosexual “marriage” in Massachusetts. As Associated Press reported April 25, 2004: “Gov. Mitt Romney’s top legal counsel told the state’s justices of the peace Sunday to resign if they are unwilling to preside over the marriage of same-sex couples beginning next month. …’If a justice of the peace cannot comply with his or her oath of office, then we would expect that person to tender their resignation from that office.’ …Romney has also ordered changes to the state’s marriage application, replacing ‘bride” and ‘groom’ with ‘Party A’ and ‘Party B.’”

    (PLEASE REMEMBER THAT MITT ROMNEY IS A REPUBLICAN).

  • muchiboy

    ". Israel isn't lobbing rockets in Gaza or anywhere else, into civilian populations, blowing up buses, etc. They are. You can't have it both ways"

    Good one.Home run! Nothing like a good game of baseball from the comfort of our home while the outside temperature dips to,let's see,-10.5 C and dropping.Now it's my turn up at bat.Ready?
    While the Palestinians have resorted to,and are guilty of,terrorism and the killing of innocent Israeli citizens,the Israelis,under Zionism,have occupied Palestine and carried out de facto ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.They are arguably guilty of war crimes and crimes against Humanity and the Palestinian people.
    The obvious difficulty and solution of two peoples sharing one piece of land is obvious to me living in a successful multicultural country of some 30 million people,with the biggest city and the most beautiful city both having majority visible minority populations.And to boot we are bilingual.And given that Palestine was occupied by mostly European Jewish refugees and that most of the Palestinian refugees were and still are denied a right of return enjoyed by Jews everywhere,I consider my solution fair to all involved.Now,the bases are loaded.Give me your best shot.muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      "the Israelis,under Zionism,have occupied Palestine and carried out de facto ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people"

      Nope, over 85% of the Jewish National Homeland is illegally occupied by Arabs.

      Israel completely withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and the W. Bank is autonomously governed by the Palestinian Authority.

      Recall, even in 1948 the Zionists repeatedly stressed that they intended to include Palestinian Arabs in their future state and treat them as full and equal citizens. The Zionists begged Palestinians not to leave the area and encouraged them to stay in their homes and communities.

      Besides, if Israel were really "ethnically cleansing" the Palestinians then why has their population exploded exponentially under Israeli rule? In Gaza, for example, the population increased from 731,000 in July 1994 to 1,324,991 in 2004, an increase of 81 percent. The growth rate was 3.8 percent, one of the highest in the world. According to the UN, the total Palestinian population in Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem was 1,006,000 in 1950, 1,094,000 in 1970, and grew to 2,152,000 in 1990. Anthony Cordesman notes the increase “was the result of improvements in income and health services” made by Israel.

    • MixMChess

      "And given that Palestine was occupied by mostly European Jewish refugees and that most of the Palestinian refugees were and still are denied a right of return enjoyed by Jews everywhere,I consider my solution fair to all involved."

      The Palestinian "right of return" has no basis in law or history. Arab leaders invented this principle as another weapon for dismantling Israel for if the right of return were granted, the Arab population would quickly outnumber the Jewish population, and Israel would cease to be a Jewish state.

      Besides, Israel is not at fault for the creation of the Palestinian refugee crisis. Arab states are. Arab sources corroborate this claim. For instance, The Syrian Prime Minister, Haled al Azm Syrian stated "Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return."

      Additionally, most of today's Palestinians that claim refugee status were not native to the area. Any Arab who entered Israel up to 2 years prior to 1948 could claim to be a Palestinian refugee, even if he and his ancestors had lived elsewhere for generations before and he owned no land or property in Palestine. Interestingly enough, refugee figures were collected by UNRWA on an 'honor basis' without checking even the above "absurdly minimal requirements."

    • MixMChess

      As usual, muchiboy purports to have knowledge in a complex area of Israeli law for which he has none.

      Israel's "Law of Return" is in not comparable to an international right of return. As a sovereign nation, "Israel had a right to determine who would qualify for citizenship and chose to grant automatic citizenship to people of Jewish heritage." Similar to how America grants citizenship to children born abroad who have one American parent. Of course, there are procedures for non-Jewish immigrants to become citizens. Israel's "Law of Return" was not based on an "international legal principle, but on Israelis' view of their national mission."

      There has never been a historical precedent for the "right of return," especially for those who initiate wars (as did the Palestinians). In the aftermath of World Wars I and II, new national boundaries were drawn in Europe, the Middle East and Asia with tens of millions of people displaced. Yet, the refugee problem was solved by resettlement in new host countries, not by repatriation. The same can be said for Israel and the Palestinians, with Israel absorbing over 850,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands – its a fair population exchange.

      Oddly enough, Israel tried to resolve the refugee issue immediately upon its creation. But, Arab and PLO policies kept the Palestinian refugee issue from being solved. Instead of "humanely resettling the Palestinians as host countries did with other refugees, Arab governments and later the PLO actively prevented resettlement, with the exception of Jordan, in order to use the refugee issue in their campaign against Israel."

    • MixMChess

      You're turn up to bat Ron Grant. Oh and try not to be too much of a COWARD.

  • muchiboy

    ". Israel isn't lobbing rockets in Gaza or anywhere else, into civilian populations, blowing up buses, etc. They are. You can't have it both ways"

    Good one.Home run! Nothing like a good game of baseball from the comfort of our home while the outside temperature dips to,let's see,-10.5 C and dropping.Now it's my turn up at bat.Ready?
    While the Palestinians have resorted to,and are guilty of,terrorism and the killing of innocent Israeli citizens,the Israelis,under Zionism,have occupied Palestine and carried out de facto ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.They are arguably guilty of war crimes and crimes against Humanity and the Palestinian people.
    The obvious difficulty and solution of two peoples sharing one piece of land is obvious to me living in a successful multicultural country of some 30 million people,with the biggest city and the most beautiful city both having majority visible minority populations.And to boot we are bilingual.And given that Palestine was occupied by mostly European Jewish refugees and that most of the Palestinian refugees were and still are denied a right of return enjoyed by Jews everywhere,I consider my solution fair to all involved.Now,the bases are loaded.Give me your best shot.muchiboy

  • muchiboy

    ". Israel isn't lobbing rockets in Gaza or anywhere else, into civilian populations, blowing up buses, etc. They are. You can't have it both ways"

    Good one.Home run! Nothing like a good game of baseball from the comfort of our home while the outside temperature dips to,let's see,-10.5 C and dropping.Now it's my turn up at bat.Ready?
    While the Palestinians have resorted to,and are guilty of,terrorism and the killing of innocent Israeli citizens,the Israelis,under Zionism,have occupied Palestine and carried out de facto ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.They are arguably guilty of war crimes and crimes against Humanity and the Palestinian people.
    The obvious difficulty and solution of two peoples sharing one piece of land is obvious to me living in a successful multicultural country of some 30 million people,with the biggest city and the most beautiful city both having majority visible minority populations.And to boot we are bilingual.And given that Palestine was occupied by mostly European Jewish refugees and that most of the Palestinian refugees were and still are denied a right of return enjoyed by Jews everywhere,I consider my solution fair to all involved.Now,the bases are loaded.Give me your best shot.muchiboy

  • Soraya

    Where was the Bruin when the MSA had their westcoast conference and pledged their allegience at the end of the conference (in the Grand Ballroom) with these words:
    " Allah is my lord.
    Islam is my life.
    The Koran is my guide.
    The Sunna is my practice.
    Jihad is my spirit.
    Righteousness is my character.
    Paradise is my goal.
    I enjoin what is right.
    I forbid what is wrong.
    I will fight against oppression.
    And I will die to establish Islam."

  • CAROLE63

    Children of muslim families are brought up with a web of lies about the jewish peoples!
    Historically, they distort and change everything to demonize the jews from generation to generation! Even the historical archaeological evidence in Israel, they try to change or destroy to say to the world that the jewish people have no connection to!
    They cannot lie to God ! He knows the truth and one day they will have to answer to Him for their lies!

  • http://www.chick.com Raymond

    He told us in advance what he planned to do. Few were listening…..
    If you read this before ——– please read it again.

    Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do. Few were listening.
    The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised "Meet The Press'.
    From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised "Meet the Press" THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on theAmerican Flag.

    General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

    The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…

    During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, "Stand and Face It".

    NOW GET THIS !!
    'Senator' Obama replied:
    "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides". "There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American
    Flag is a symbol of oppression.." "The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing."

    (ARE YOU READY FOR THIS???)
    Obama continued: "The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – - – perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments …"

    When I (Obama) become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past".

    "Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside . I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path..My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America "

    Yes, you read it right.
    I, for one, am speechless!!!
    Dale Lindsborg , Washington Post

    EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NEEDS TO READ THIS, KEEP IT GOING ! ! SAVE AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE ! !
    Anyone care to argue he’s a U S citizen. (If nothing else, his heart isn’t)

    • kafir4life

      Raymond, I think that BarO is a digusting piece of filth as most do. What you posted here is incorrect. Joe Biden was the guest on MTP on 9/7/08. BigO does enough for real. We don't have to make stuff up. Check the transcripts, check snopes.com.

      • http://www.chick.com Raymond

        SNOPES EXPOSED!

        We’ve known that it was owned by a lefty couple but hadn’t known it to be financed by Soros——

        Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros, a big time supporter of Obama!

  • WilliamJamesWard

    I have so little respect for any idiot that voted for Obama it is probably
    not measurable, however I know Joe Biden does not rate as such and
    idiot as Obamanoids go and would prefer some persona like
    Muchiboy( he's fun) as vice-president, someone Obama could
    shine with and help the uneducated, indoctrinated masses of
    American College students get into step with. Think of it, Obama
    the pied piper, Muchi or better (mulchi boy) his familiar marching the
    dolts off of the proverbial cliff into the sea of forgetfullness, one can
    wish………………….hey there Mulchi keep it up, you are helpful…………William

  • RiverFred

    The Palestinians are simply practicing their religion that approves Al-Taqiyya, the act of lying.

  • Progressive

    Mark Twain visited Palestine in 1869, and this is how he described it:

    "Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Where Sodom and Gomorrah reared their domes and towers, that solemn sea now floods the plain, in whose bitter waters no living thing exists–over whose waveless surface the blistering air hangs motionless and dead– about whose borders nothing grows but weeds, and scattering tufts of cane, and that treacherous fruit that promises refreshment to parching lips, but turns to ashes at the touch.

    "Nazareth is forlorn; about that ford of Jordan where the hosts of Israel entered the Promised Land with songs of rejoicing, one finds only a squalid camp of fantastic Bedouins of the desert; Jericho the accursed, lies a moldering ruin, to-day, even as Joshua's miracle left it more than three thousand years ago; Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the Saviour's presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang Peace on earth, good will to men, is untenanted by any living creature, and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye.

    "Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the Holy Cross.

    "The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the Saviour sailed in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness; Capernaum is a shapeless ruin; Magdala is the home of beggared Arabs; Bethsaida and Chorazin have vanished from the earth, and the "desert places" round about them where thousands of men once listened to the Saviour's voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes.

    "Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land?

    "Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition–it is dream-land.
    http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/mtw

  • muchiboy

    "then the claim must be laughed out of court. "

    That is the problem here,a claim as important as this should not be laughed out of court,ziontruth.You should know better to make this assertion.We are not extremist Jewish settlers nor Hamas suicide bombers here.I assume you are American educated in the N.American school system much as I was brought up here in Canada.The claim would not be laughed out of any world court I know or respect.muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      "That is the problem here,a claim as important as this should not be laughed out of court."

      Frivolous claims are almost always essentially "laughed out of court." The Palestinians claims to the land of Israel lack legal merit. Ziontruth is correct in asserting that no competent person would waste their time with the Palestinians claims which have no chance of winning.

    • ziontruth

      "a claim as important as this should not be laughed out of court,"

      The issue is not whether the claim is important (I agree it is, if only in the sense that it's been the banner under which both Left and Islam have rallied against Israel for the past few decades) but whether it is substantial. It isn't, because it's based on a lie–the claim of a non-Jewish Palestinian nation. Once you throw the lie out, you're left with a claim no court would accept: The claim of over 20 Arab states against one single Jewish one.

      "We are not extremist Jewish settlers…"

      There are no Jewish settlers in Palestine. By definition there cannot be any such. The Jews are the indigenous Palestinians, therefore cannot be settlers in Palestine. The only settlers in Palestine are the Arabs, "Palestinians" falsely called.

  • muchiboy

    "with no knowledge of history."

    I have an average understanding of world history,which may not be saying much,and an above average history of Palestine.While not a scholar,I am open to opinions different from mine,and I have benefited from the opinions and knowledge of others here,most of whom I respect.I am not alone in my opinions,and I supposed they are "extremist" only in the context of FPM and its' right wing,Zionist agenda.I chose to be here,and thanks to the open policy of FPM,I can debate with others.While I still have a pro Palestinian bias in my views,I think I have a better understanding of the Jewish perspective and do appreciate your position more so then when I first posted here.And we mustn't forget that while we both may agree substantially on the facts,at the end of the day we may still have different and opposing opinions.Furthermore,there is not only our two opinions to consider,but a third,the correct opinion.muchiboy

    P.S."that doltish moniker is supposed to mean".Muchi was my Fox Terrier.I promised him I would never ever forget him,so every day I use his name here and elsewhere.

    • MixMChess

      "I have an average understanding of world history,which may not be saying much,and an above average history of Palestine."

      Based on your postings its obvious you have very little understanding of world history and absolutely no understanding of the history of the Arab/Israeli conflict. You only have an above average understanding of Pali-Nazi rhetoric.

      "…and I supposed they are "extremist" only in the context of FPM and its' right wing,Zionist agenda."

      Nope, your desire to destroy the Jewish state is extremist in most moderate left-wing circles as well. As much as I disagree with many folks on the moderate left (Alan Dershowitz, Joe Klein [Newsweek], Bill Maher, Al Franken, Alan Colmes, Arianna Huffington etc.), we at least agree in that we support Israel's right to exist.

      You sir are an extremist with a lust for Jewish blood. Shame on you.

  • muchiboy

    "Yes or no, do you support Hamas? "
    Sort of like asking "How often do I beat my dog".
    I would NOT have voted for Hamas.I don't support any Fundamentalist regime anywhere,much less an Islamic one. Then again,the PLO/PA are corrupt.But what do you do if you have legitimate grievances as grave as the Palestinians have,are outgunned,etc.Settle for crumbs?Watch as settlements eat up the remaining crumbs?The residents of Gaza voted for Hamas for a reason,maybe they were between a rock and a hard place.And I don't personally place all the blame on them,either,as I consider them to be victims of occupation.With respect,I hope that answers your questions.It is as good as I can give.

    "Do you want the Jews gone from Israel?"
    NO.
    Just curious because you, from many of your comments you appear to.

    "Yes, I concur with MixMChess"

    MixMChess is abusive.I no longer read nor reply to his comments.muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      "The residents of Gaza voted for Hamas for a reason,maybe they were between a rock and a hard place."

      The Palestinian people had a choice when they voted, and they CHOSE to elect members of "an organization whose avowed purpose is the destruction of Israel by violent means." Hamas is recognized throughout the world as a TERRORIST organization. The Palestinians voted for Hamas because they reject peace and have a lust for Jewish blood.

    • MixMChess

      "MixMChess is abusive.I no longer read nor reply to his comments."

      This is funny…. Ron, I will offer you a compromise, if you stop lying about Israel and Jews, I promise to stop telling the truth about you.

      If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Coward.

  • John

    It really just occurred to me that 'What the enemy intends for evil, G-d uses for good." From a couple of the antagonistic remarks about Israel, etc, mainly from one ill-informed, distracting individual, so much worthwhile, accurate, useful information and knowledge has come to light from quite a number of you regarding the lies that have been spread concerning Israel. A lot of it was new information to me. I truly appreciate all of that information and your input. I'll use it.

  • flaedo

    The Romans were progressive and wonderful colonisers. lf the crazy Jews hadnt revolted (three times) l am sure the world would be a different place now. What posessed them to attempt to throw off the Roman yoke l cant imagine, they couldn have been terribly smart, just another inward looking provincial people and quite bloodthirsty as well.
    Palestine is Israel. Mohomad works for the devil. If any so called Palestinians want to renounce lslam l am sure they will be welcome in lsrael. lf not they can go live in Pakistan.

  • muchiboy

    "Did you bother looking up anything anyone here has asked you to research?"
    " Didn't think so."
    " Let me ask you a question."

    Firstly,you ask me a question,then you answer it before I can reply,then you ask me another question.What am I to think?muchiboy

  • Amused

    muchiboy , you've got alot to say .what do you say about this ?

    Israel is still the only country in the world against which there is a
    written document to the effect that it must disappear." – Menachem
    Begin, former Prime Minister of Israel.

    "Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for
    all-out war, a war which will last for generations." –
    Yasser Arafat, former leader of the PLO.

    "We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely
    Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by
    psychological warfare and population explosion. We Palestinians will
    take over everything, including all of Jerusalem." – Yasser Arafat,
    former leader of the PLO.

    "

    • muchiboy

      "muchiboy , you've got alot to say .what do you say about this ? "

      Actions speak louder then words,Amused.Israel together with the Diaspora have occupied Palestine and ethnically cleansed the Palestinian people.In my book,these are crimes.The Palestinians may well be guilty of intents(as well as crimes).We could all too easily make two side by side lists of the sins of both Palestinians and Israelis.I would be generous if I said they were equal in guilt.Israel is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity and the Palestinian people.I can understand why Israelis and the Diaspora would deny their crimes.Doesn't mean they didn't happen.The fact that Israelis characterize themselves as good and the Palestinians as bad is so typical of the occupier.I have seen it,experienced it first hand,having been an occupier.muchiboy

  • Amused

    How about this muchiboy ? please correct any errors …

    "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian
    state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of
    Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference
    between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for
    political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
    a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit
    the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism…
    For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined
    borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. While as a Palestinian,
    I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.
    However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will
    not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." – PLO executive
    committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977, interview with the Dutch
    newspaper Trouw.

    • muchiboy

      "The Palestinian people does not exist. … – PLO executive
      committee member Zahir Muhsein,"

      Ask the American Administration if there is a Palestinian people.Ask your President.Ask the EU if there is a Palestinian people.Ask the UN if there is a Palestinian people.Ask any Palestinian in Israel,Gaza,the West Bank,Canada,Germany,etc.Go ahead.Ask.When an Israeli,or a member of the Diaspora ask such an absurd question,in the context of the Palestinian struggle and tragedy,it says more about the questioner then the Palestinian people.At the very least it is denial,at the worse it is a forum of genocide.It really is the denial of a people,by someone or a nation with a sinister and all too obvious agenda.And it really isn't funny,Amused.muchiboy

      • ziontruth

        "Ask the American Administration if there is a Palestinian people.Ask your President.Ask the EU if there is a Palestinian people.Ask the UN if there is a Palestinian people.Ask any Palestinian in Israel,Gaza,the West Bank,Canada,Germany,etc.Go ahead.Ask."

        A lie doesn't become a truth because a great number of people believe it. Nor does it become a truth by virtue of the high stature of those who believe it.

        "It really is the denial of a people,…"

        And this is different from your portrayal of Zionism as a White European Settler Colonist Enterprise, how exactly? If the anti-Phakestinian (for want of a better name) stance is denial, this is only because it is in reaction to another, and far worse denial. For, by your admission, this so-called "Palestinian nation" is just over 60 years old at most, while the Jewish connection to Palestine is over 3,000 years old. Six decades vs. three millennia: Which is the worse denial?

    • muchiboy

      "The Palestinian people does not exist. … – PLO executive
      committee member Zahir Muhsein,"

      Ask the American Administration if there is a Palestinian people.Ask your President.Ask the EU if there is a Palestinian people.Ask the UN if there is a Palestinian people.Ask any Palestinian in Israel,Gaza,the West Bank,Canada,Germany,etc.Go ahead.Ask.When an Israeli,or a member of the Diaspora ask such an absurd question,in the context of the Palestinian struggle and tragedy,it says more about the questioner then the Palestinian people.At the very least it is denial,at the worse it is a forum of genocide.It really is the denial of a people,by someone or a nation with a sinister and all too obvious agenda.And it really isn't funny,Amused.muchiboy

  • AntiFascist18

    One of the reasons "tough" Conservative Andrew Thomas was defeated in his run in Arizona for Attorney-General was his office's refusal to seek the death penalty for an Iraqui roach fece, a scum of the earth who deliberately chose to "honor kill" his daughter for her Western ways and boyfriend. Instead of getting fried, this fece will now have three taxpayer paid meals a day and be allowed to live in prison. When we finally "get it" on their Sharia, on their Honor Killings, on their burkas – we will be essentailly saving our own asses.

    Unfortunately RINOs like Chris Christie in their appointment of Jihadist judges to the state court, can't figure it out. We need to vote smarter and better.

  • mama mitzvah

    bs'd
    Thank you for this article, Mr. Horowitz and the Freedom Center for exposing these lies.

  • Amused

    Yo , muchiboy ….whast do you say about those statements ? Care to refute them ….or even attempt to make an excuse for them ?

  • crypticguise

    This is a GREAT column. I hope that you get every college and University in the country to publish this Wall of Lies (I know that is impossible). Thank you for your continuing work in exposing the mendacity and evil of the Muslim Brotherhood and it's associated groups in the United States.