VIDEO: Penn State YAF Students Assaulted for Putting up Palestinian Wall of Lies

YAF President Samuel Settle described the event held yesterday:

Today, members of the Penn State Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) set up a Palestinian Wall of Lies outside of the HUB Student Center at the University Park campus. The demonstration began shortly before 1:00, and received an almost immediate hostile reaction from two nearby Arab students. The students described the Wall as “bullshit” and “a f***ing lie,” but were initially nonviolent.

Shortly afterwards, the Wall began attracting significant attention, including from a reporter and photographer with the Daily Collegian student newspaper. Most of the reception was positive; in particular, a group of Israeli students came around to express their support. At this point, one of the two Arab students came back around and began arguing with the YAFfers and Israelis, using abusive language and saying, “I have a problem with Israelis.” The argument lasted for about 3 minutes, during which the aggressor became increasingly aggravated, ultimately demanding that the YAFfers stop filming him. His request was refused, at which point he lunged for, but missed, the camera I was holding. He then kicked over a crate full of YAF pamphlets and stormed off. A photographer from the Collegian was present at the time.

Although this display was disappointing, it was not surprising. This was the only student to actually become violent, but many other students from the MSA came by at various points to verbally denounce the Wall, and often to personally insult those present. None of these people were able to point out a single error on the Wall, and they dispersed once it became clear that they were being filmed.

On whole, the event was a great success. As mentioned, with the exception of some MSA members, the Wall seemed to get a mostly positive reception. Several of the students indicated that they were extremely pleased to see a counter-balance to the anti-Israel narrative frequently promoted on campus.

Read the Daily Collegian’s write-up here. Find out more about the Wall of Lies campaign and sign up to bring a wall to your campus here.

  • Sierra Caddis

    Is YAF going to press charges?

  • Tanstaafl

    Stand up for the truth!

  • profnickd

    More violence from the Religion of Peace. it's almost getting to be predictable.

    • Sam Gates

      and the irony mulitplies

  • Abu Fourth of July

    Just had a read of the Wall of lies, which is a good description for it. In regard to the riposte to Lie #4: 'There never was an Arab country called "Palestine" or inhabited by "Palestinians."'
    The first half of the sentence is true. There never was a country called Palestine. But the last time before 1948 that there was a country called Israel was in biblical times. If the bible is the only foundation of your legitimacy then I'm not convinced.
    Those people who call themselves Palestinians are the people who lived there until 1948 and their descendents. To give those innocent people justice, you'd have to evict the descendents of the Israelis who took over that land, who are only there by accident of birth, and thus also innocent people.
    Nice little mess. Good to see the US doing its best to solve it though. Pick a side and run with it, whatever happens.

    • Arabianmoondog

      The Bible is by no means the "only foundation." The archaeology alone proves a continuous – and extensive- Jewish presence in Israel over the past 3,000 years. Evidence of the Arabs? Not so much. Israel was legally established under International Law on VACANT and TENANT-FREE land LEGALLY PURCHASED by Jews. Is *International Law* only valid when it *sides* with the Arab view?

      In addition, it's important to note that wars do have consequences, and I'm not referring to the *every single war* that the Arabs have started against Israel (they LOST all of them); I'm referring to the British, who defeated the Ottoman Empire – who controlled that land – and victors can dispose of captured land as they see fit, can they not? As it were, Jews subsequently purchased much of that land anyway.

      Losers don't call the shots, and I'm sorry, but the Arabs have *lost* every war with Israel – and the Arabs *started* them all. It's time for the Arabs to grow up, give it up, and do what's right for their families and their families' futures: build their own state and stop dreaming to destroy Israel.

      • Supreme_Galooty

        The words, "brutally honest" come to mind when reading your riposte. Well said!

    • ben

      You're kind of missing the point. There was no "Palestinian" identity before the creation of Israel…except perhaps among Jews. The Arabs of Palestine considered themselves either Syrian or Egyptian, depending on where they came from. There was no desire for an independent country called "Palestine" among the Arabs. In fact the term "nakba," which is now used to refer to the creation of Israel, was used by Arabs to describe the separation of Palestine from Syria during the British Mandate. I in fact have a book called "The Arab Awakening," with a 1939 copyright date, that states that Arabs of Palestine called the separation from Syria the "nakba," since they wanted to remain a part of Syria. Back in 1947, the Jews just wanted a country, and the Arabs just wanted to destroy it. The Arabs in Palestine were mostly newcomers from bordering countries and had no roots or self-identification in the land in which they resided.

      • Howitzer Mandela

        Your final statement seems like it was plucked out of the sky. Palestine was much more densely populated than Jordan, while maybe less so than Lebanon, but is there any record of this supposed migration of 'newcomers'.

        Speaking of newcomers, is it right that, for example, an Australian whose mother happens to be Jewish can get the full rights of an Israeli citizen, and possibly a low-cost house in the West Bank, while the grandchild of a Palestinian refugee can only return to their grandparent's land with a temporary permit.

        • WildJew

          I refer you to Arabianmoondog (just) above, who did a pretty good job I think. Refute him. Then we can talk.

        • ziontruth

          "Your final statement seems like it was plucked out of the sky."

          Unfortunately for you, it is grounded in solid historical record. The British explorers of the late 19th century describe a land whose population is almost entirely concentrated in the cities, and the children of those explorers, now the administrators of a British-ruled mandate, describe the influx of Arab settlers from neighboring Syria and Egypt in the 1920s-40s.

          Read Stanley Kitchener's account for the desolation of late 19th-century Palestine, and the proceedings of the Peale Conference for an account of the Arab influx during the Mandate period.

          "…is it right that, for example, an Australian whose mother happens to be Jewish can get the full rights of an Israeli citizen,…"

          Yes, it is right. Jews everywhere, no matter where they are born, are indigenous Palestinians; to Palestine the entire Jewish nation must and will return, for that is the Jews' only true home, even after 2000 years of life in the Diaspora.

          "…while the grandchild of a[n Arab settler who tried to destroy the Jewish state in 1947] can only return to their grandparent's [stolen] land with a temporary permit."

          The tenth generation of dogs born in a stable are still dogs, not horses. Arabs are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula; in Palestine they are settler-colonist invaders and are guilty of stealing the indigenous Palestinians' (=the Jews') land. For the sake of a just and viable peace, all illegal Arab settlements on Palestinian (=Jewish) land must be dismantled.

        • Blind Melon Cohen

          When a Christian or Jew can visit Mecca, or build a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia–talk to me. Until then, I fart on your moral equivalence argument.

      • Roy

        The word "Palestine" was known to the entire world, to every person in every country, as the homeland of the Jews for thousands of years until the PLO started a propaganda campaign of historical revisionism several decades ago. Read history, not propaganda lies from the Muslims. Mark Twain in the 19th century, for instance, visited Palestine and describes with admiration what he describes as the homeland of the Jews and only the Jews. For no other people was this a homeland. Jews around the world have in their prayers at every service hundreds of instances of Jerusalem and the land of Israel, their God-given homeland.

        • aspacia

          Winston Churchill also wrote regarding this as well.

    • Leonard

      The day after the fourth: Palestina was a word used by the Romans to describe Judea! If you want a complete history of the area, read Joan Peters' "From Time Immemorial."

    • umustbkidding

      This is a hard concept for a lot of people. The point that is escaping folks here is that before 1948 control of that area didn't belong to the Palestinians either.

      To illustrate my point. Today we have Mexicans both in this country and living in Mexico that say Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and at least part of California belongs to Mexico. To say this they must ignore the fact that this area was conquered by the USA. We took land that wasn't ours and made it ours. It has happened all through out man's history. We control the above mentioned states they are ours and we are not giving them back. We aren't giving the country back to the American Indian either.

      In the case where land was given to the "Jews" those that had control gave the land away. With that they gave "most" of their interests with it. I say most because, as GOD's chosen people we all have an interest in supporting them and making them successful.

      The real problem is that no one wants the Palestinians.

    • Telly

      Jews were in Israel before the Arabs even existed as a people.

      The people you call Palestinians are decedents of Arabs who came into the region 2000 years later.

    • Rafi Schutzer

      The "Palestinians" were just migrant farm workers that came to Israel once the indigenous people (the Jews) began flourishing again and made the desert bloom.

    • aspacia

      The land was purchased from the Ottoman Empire to build an Israeli state after centuries of persecution, massacres, property confiscation, ghettoization, etc. and this was 60 years before Nazi Germany.

      The Arabs expelled 650,000 Jews from Arab land right after 1948, and Jews never received compensation, but were absorbed by their brethren. Why can't the vast Arab world absorb its brethren? They can, but still hope to destroy Israel by using their Arab brethren as cannon fodder.

  • guest

    Well done Penn State!!

    • Rafi Schutzer

      Thank the MAN ! i.e., David Horowitz

  • Ekofo the Congolese

    Jews have plenty right to live in their own land… First ,European Power (with Romans legions) evicted the majority of Jewish from their land… it's was n't natural… it was a forced exile or an accident of history…. even though, 2000 years passed… That land still belong to them.. Those surrounding and neighbouring peoples have always lust after the holy mountain…. they took advantage on the exile forced on jews… They massacred, subdued and forced the remaining jew to convert to Islam… They muslims, throughout history have always been liars, cheater, deceiver as shown the life of Mahomed himsel

  • jbtrevor

    I'm confused after reading the linked article in the Penn paper…since when is Palestine a ''race'' and statements for or against Palestine 'racist'? Since the people in ''Palestine'' are of many descents, just what 'race' is it?

    Has anyone else noted that when the feeble mind cannot argue/debate an issue they call names/smear their opponent?

    • bbclayton

      Yep, they rank right up there with the liberals.

    • Sam Gates

      actually, biologically speaking, there is only one race (the human one) so racism is a problematic term in general. it is no more or less accurate to call a white supremacist racist than it is to call you racist.
      p.s., antisemitism is a problematic term since the (also) problematic designation "Semitic" also includes Arabs. it would be more accurate to call arabs self-hating antisemites.

      • Telly

        Arabs are not "a Semitic people." Because some British academic thought so, the Arabic language is included in the Semitic family of languages. This has absolutely nothing to do with genetics, culture, ethnicity, shared identity, or nationality.

        Your concept of a Semitic people comes from anti-Semitism (which is means hatred of the Jews). But Anti-Semitism has never included Arabs as a common people with the Jews. You probably believe Jews to be a self-selected group, but anti-Semitism was project on us from the outside, especially from Arabs. FYI Arab anti-Semitism long before the creation of the modern state of Israel. Before and during WWII the Nazis embraced their Arab brothers because they were united in their common hatred of the Jewish people.

        What did you think? Arabs are really just self-hating Jews?

        • Sam Gates

          a.) but you do cede the ambiguity of the term "racism"?
          b.) I have not made any comment implying that Arabs are Jews. You give a good early definition of "semitic," though you never explain in what way an Arab does not fall into the same ethnic/linguistic category. You then explain that, paradoxically, the term Semitic comes from anti-semitism. This is a pretty good analysis, but only in describing the phenomenon of illogically conflating anti-Ashkenazi sentiment in Europe with, well, hatred for 1/3 of Noah's descendants, if the Bible is to be believed.
          It would be equally logically (viz., meaningless and ugly) to call a Hutu an anti-hamite.

  • Andres de Alamaya

    Someone should found and fund an AMERICAN STUDENTS ASSOCIATION to constantly counter the efforts of the Muslim Brotherhood's Muslim Students Association. The Wall of Lies display should be on every campus to wake up our youngsters and make them aware of our enemies within.

    • bbclayton

      I agree….

    • Supreme_Galooty

      I disagree. The association you propose should be called the AmericanIST Students Association. We have a plethora of citizens in this country who by accident of birth or circumstance are "Americans" while, at the same time, are some of the most un-American folks one could have the displeasure to find. The term "Americanist" connotes being endowed with love and respect for the concept of Individual Liberty being codified into the governing fabric of the country.

  • kafir4life

    One of the things that the pedophile emulators don't have to worry about. Most non-muslims don't behave like muslims, so the muslims don't need to be concerned about violence against them. Lucky muslims, I'd say!! If non-muslims were to behave like muslims then the tummy stapled abe hooper, one of the leaders of the terrorist supporters supporting terrorists at the terrorist supporting hamas-linked terror supporting islamic organization, cair would actually have something to complain about.

  • bbclayton

    Hadrian renamed Israel "Palestine" in 135 AD.. The Arabs did not call themselves "Palestinians" until the 1967 war when Israel took back Jerusalem after being attacked. Even their former leader Arafat was born in Egypt.

    • sodizzy

      Thank you for this important fact. I have been searching for it, was sure the concept of Palestine happened during the Roman conquest, and I see that it was in keeping with the conquering Romans penchant for renaming their territories so as to declare their victories. It was a way of showing extreme disrespect to the vanquished.

      • bbclayton

        A couple years ago, I wrote an article to our local newspaper in response to a woman who wrote a really ridiculous article sympathizing with the "Palestinians"…… The Philistines occupied the Gaza area and I believe they came from Greece.

        Another thing no one seems to notice…. The Muslims say Mohammed went up to heaven from the mosque supposedly in Jerusalem. However, the Koran reads "the
        farthest mosque" so since the Al-Aqsa mosque was not built til some 50 years or so after Mohammed died, I don't know how that could be… You would think they would check their facts or lies in this case.

  • Sofian

    And they said why anti Semitesm increasing like a fire!

    • aneo

      only among idiots.

    • Catmann

      Conversely, using your logic it is no wonder that anti Muslim sentiment is on the rise. The video demonstrates yet again how the religion of permanent offense responds to the truth and criticism. Lastly, you spelled Antisemitism wrong.

  • Raymond

    The Ten Commandments According to Obama the muslim.

    I. Thou shalt have no God in America, except for me. For we are no longer a Christian nation and, after all, I am the chosen One. (And like God, I do not have a birth certificate.)

    II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, unless it is my face carved on Mt. Rushmore.

    III. Thou shalt not utter my middle name in vain (or in public). Only I can say Barack Hussein Obama.

    IV. Remember my tax day, April 15th, to keep it holy.

    V. Honour thy father and thy mother until they are too old and sick to care for. They will cost our public-funded health-care system too much money.

    VI. Thou shalt not kill, unless you have an unwanted, unborn baby. For it would be an abomination to punish your daughter with a baby.

    VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery if you are conservative or a Republican. Liberals and Democrats are hereby forgiven for all of their infidelity and immorality, but the careers of conservatives will be forever destroyed.

    VIII. Thou shalt not steal, until you've been elected to public office. Only then is it acceptable to take money from hard-working, successful citizens and give it to those who do not work, illegal immigrants, or those who do not have the motivation to better their own lives.

    IX. Thou shalt not discriminate against thy neighbor unless they are conservative, Caucasian, or Christian.

    X. Thou shalt not covet because it is simply unnecessary. I will place such a heavy tax burden on those that have achieved the American Dream that, by the end of my term as President, nobody will have any wealth or material goods left for you to covet.

    • Veritas

      I am both conservative and a christian and i dont agree with you any o this nonsense. First I think it wrong to defame the ten commandments like this and second most of this is simply not true.
      If you want to defeat someone do it honestly and you will prevail but when you distort the truth you lose followers and people trust you less.
      Truth is that Obama has done little differently than Bush and I may not agree with his policies but he is not a Muslim nor is he against white people and certainly he has not set himself up as a god.

      • Raymond

        1). Obama has stated on CNN that he is indeed a muslim.
        Many of us figured this out years ago.

        2). Obama is indeed against whites, Christians & Jews.
        Obama is a Jew hating, America hating, white hating muslim.

        3). Obama is a liar, a homosexual, an adulterer & a con artist.

        4). Those were Obama's 10 commandments, and they are true.

        5). Obama is a muslim, Bush is not.
        Obama is a homosexual, Bush is not.
        Obama hates America, Bush loves America.
        Obama has indeed set himself up as God, but he is NOT.

        6). Obama stole the last election.

        7). It's clear that you're neither a Christian or a conservative.


  • Judy Abeles Eliasov

    The young man who was arguing was trying to give the Palestinian Occupied territory a state stutus. What he need to know is that 1948 there were two entities, Jewish and /Arab. The Arab armies from many countries attacked the fledgling Jewish state, and lost. They remained at war and refused all proffered peace agreements by Israel In 1967 the Arabs attacked again and lost. The Arabs still remained at war regecting peace again. The Palestinians were under Jordainian rule and only after 1967 started their own state claims. Jorden was happy to rid itself of so many Pals who are not Bedouins and hostile to the King-actually just recently Jordan retracted Jordanian citizenship from them.
    I propose that Israel comes to an agrement with the Palestinian leadership about a two state solution because the way things are going, they will unilaterally declare a State with the support of most of the anti-Israeli UN who appear to be as ignorant of the facts as is the young man in the video

    • aspacia

      The UN is anti Israel; go to UN Watch for insight. I would rather Israel drive the Muslims out of Israel proper, The West Bank and Gaza as there can never be peace considering Fatah and Hamas' Charters.

      Eventually, the Muslims will wear themselves out massacring each other, and Israel will be able to secure its land, and perhaps bring peace to the Middle-East.

  • joe

    Darned, even when being supposedly educated, Muslim students remain locked in the seventh century. Too bad that barbarians never learn.

  • Kuffar

    Can't defend your arguments, respond with violence.

    The typical pali response to everything

  • CanadConserv

    Must be infuriating to passionately want to be the victim, only to be confronted with facts that show you to be instead in the wrong.

    Simple fact: Jews are the indigenous people. ARABS were the imperialist invaders. Although they get to keep most of what they conquered, it drives them nuts to have lost a tiny parcel to returning Jews.

  • muchiboy

    "…YAF Students Assaulted…"
    "he lunged for, but missed, the camera I was holding. He then kicked over a crate full of YAF pamphlets"
    This constitutes an assault? My comment to the article is mostly "sticks and stones..".Sure,we have a right to protest,pro or anti Zionism/Israel,and we should be able to do so without fear and intimidation,more or less.More or less because feelings are high and there is much at stake.

    "demanding that the YAFfers stop filming him."
    Verbal assaults are to be expected,and even actions such as kicking a box of pamphlets are preferable to kicking a demonstrator,and may be dismissed as a kind of immature displacement.The YAF members are not without their provocation in filming their opponents,a kind of low end intimidation.muchiboy

    • MixMChess

      "This constitutes an assault?"

      Yes, Black's Law defines assault as: "when one person tries to physically harm another in a way that makes the person under attack feel immediately threatened. Actual physical contact is not necessary; threatening gestures that would alarm any reasonable person can constitute an assault."

      "Verbal assaults are to be expected,and even actions such as kicking a box of pamphlets are preferable to kicking a demonstrator,and may be dismissed as a kind of immature displacement."

      I am sure if the roles were reverse and it were a pro-Israel student kicking boxes of Palestinian pamphlets it would be another example of "Zionist thuggery."

      "The YAF members are not without their provocation in filming their opponents,a kind of low end intimidation."

      Huh? They filmed it exactly to document the fascist behavior of Israel's opponents. You should know this better than anyone.

    • jeff

      WOW, You say this student demanding people stop filming him and kicking a box of pamphlets over , is a kind of immature displacement.But a student pointing a camera and filming said student doing those things is a provacation and intimidation. Your hypocracy and bias stands out like a steamy pile of cow dung in the winter.I bet you think the preacher in florida is responsible for the deaths in afghanistan and other savage nations to dont you .

    • winoceros

      Do you think that the cameras filming every corner of a retail store are intimidating too? Or do you think they are meant to deter crime and capture evidence?

      He saw them filming. He didn't need to speak to them if he didn't want to.

      I'll remember your attitude about property being the first victim of protest when my car is keyed for my political stickers.

  • Pierre

    The best had been that the Jews living again in their fatherland nalmed their country "PALESTINE" instead "ISRAEL", so that the "pseudo palestinians" could'nt rob for themself that appellation….

  • Marty Trout

    Great jobYAF!!! I just wrote a letter to the editor of the school paper. Walid Shoebat, –ex-plo terrorist, now Christian says, one day I was a Jordanian and the next I was a Palestinian. Hamas does not want a two-state solution. Since when does a soverign nation have to give up land just because they are being attacked? Arabs in Israel have more rights that Arabs in any Muslim/Islamic nation. Israel put up a wall to stop homocidal islamic terrorists and are called aparthied but no non-Muslims are allowed in Mecca or Medina, now that is aparthied. Muslims are killing Jews and Christians, not the other way around. What anger!!! Jesus Christ is the only true Prince of Peace.

  • SeaMystic

    More Wall of Lies needed throughout all Universities in the World.

    Well Done.

  • jewdog

    What are Muslim students doing in the US? Kick them out.

  • JanetLB

    Congratulations YAF for standing up for the truth! I hope this spreads to all the campuses that participate in Israel Hate Week! We typically bring flowers and they bring hate.

  • Doug

    Listen to the comments after the Muslim lashes out and walks off. We need to do a lot more work there as well. I wish there would be much more of this kind of confrontation of the new Nazis and fascists, who abound on university campuses and invariably style themselves as "liberals"…

    • winoceros

      The bleeding heart student who says that the Jewish students were unnecessarily provocative…these, folks, these kind-hearted, sensitive, "how could you?" folks are the real fascists, and those who manipulate their easily-led minds are the ones who surrender your country, one diploma at a time.

      I have four children. I will not submit. I will not use appeasement as some misguided tool to protect them.

      It doesn't work. They only end up having to fight the war we should have.

  • exchangerates

    The Arab gentleman reminds me of Union members. He has been indoctrinated and as he is confronted with the truth, he gets violent.
    God Bless these students for standing up for the truth, something much of the world does not have the courage to do.

    • muchiboy

      "Union members. He has been indoctrinated and as he is confronted with the truth, he gets violent. "
      An interesting view of union members.Perhaps you might benefit from learning the history of unions.Perhaps you would benefit from sitting down with Americans who belong to a union.Perhaps you might like to sit down with Bruce Springsteen and talk about ordinary American folk who owe so much to unions.muchiboy

  • Black Eagle

    We need MORE confrontations with Islamic fanatics, not less. More Muhammed cartoons, more Koran burnings and flushings, etc., if only to "smoke out" the "Red-Hots" and identify them for deportation, back to the Middle East, or to a remote corner in Wyoming.

  • Howitzer Mandela

    Kafir4life's comment shows the level of ignorance of your typical Islamophobe.

    'muslims don't need to be concerned about violence against them'

    How many Muslim countries are currently under attack from or occupied by a Western army?
    How many Western countries are under occupation by a Muslim country?
    To put even more simply, if you want to make it an 'us and them' thing, look at the death tolls on either side, and your looking at a very high ratio of muslims killed to westerners killed.
    I'm not saying that westerners are any more bloodthirsty than anyone else either, as you can look at plenty of conflicts around the world and find one side demonised by the other, regardless of religion or culture. Its up to the people of those countries to defy the government/military/media line to try and say no to their country's war posturing and the demonisation of some minority or other.
    Of course racism and fear will always be attractive to some people – including many in Muslim countries. Those elements on both sides will feed off each other.

    • WildJew

      Much of the discussion between the Arab student and the YAF activists revolved around the term occupation. How are we to define "occupied" territory according to Article 42 of the Hague Conventions, respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land? If one "High Contracting Party" occupies the land of another High Contracting Party, who was the High Contracting Party in the "West Bank" and "Gaza" prior to the 1967 Six Day War? There are many in the West who fear our countries are indeed being (not occupied, but) colonized by Muslim countries. While I agree with you, it is not good that the US has occupied Muslim lands, it is because unlike past wars, America is not installing western-friendly (democratic-leaning?) strong-men in these conquered territories. This is what nations did in the past. Today conquering nations occupy these lands at great cost.

    • ziontruth

      "How many Western countries are under occupation by a Muslim country?"

      Under occupation by a Muslim country, none.

      Under occupation, or increasingly so, by a Muslim non-state invasion army of immigrants, courtesy of the Marxist tactic of multiculturalism, all of Western Europe and even some of the rest of the continent. Not to mention Lebanon, the first "beneficiary" of the bounties of multiculturalism.

      Go educate yourself on the Gates of Vienna blog. Look especially at the Cultural Enrichment Archive to see how life has fared for the non-Muslims of Europe since 1988 or so (the year of the Rushdie fatwa, when suddenly the life of a non-Muslim in Britain became as cheap as if he were living in Iran itself).

    • aspacia

      We are better warriors, and they are lousy shots; SO WHAT?

  • WildJew

    I've got a dumb question. I would like to read a copy of the 'wall of lies' poster. I searched for a copy last week. Does anyone know where it can be found?

  • Howitzer Mandela

    WildJew, it's true that the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have indeed been carried out at great cost, even ruinous cost, to the US taxpayer. And elections have been allowed, even to the extent of pro-Iranian factions ruling Iraq.
    I'm talking more about how a Muslim is supposed to view the situation. Are they supposed to be grateful for these invasions, when the motives were murky at best and justifications changed continually?
    The huge profiteering that has taken place on the back of these wars may just be a side-effect, and the wars may not just about oil, but are the product of the neo-con mindset.

    • WildJew

      Again, the reason the U.S. continues to occupy these Muslim countries is because the U.S. did not impose an America-friendly strong-man ("puppet") on them as has been the custom in the history of warfare, at least up to the nineteenth or the twentieth centuries. The only form of governance these people have known historically, have been Caliphates, monarchies and dictatorships. Some would argue given the restive nature of these peoples, given their culture, religion and traditions, the imposition of western-style democracy is a long-shot. What would you have done (were you president) about the Taliban / al Qaeda government in Afghanistan following the 9/11 attacks?

    • aspacia

      How about WBYA took down the Butcher of Bagdad after he massacred possibly a million or so of his people.

  • umustbkidding

    I am so glad to see young adults start taking up this mantle. Hope.

  • Mike

    Ask the student if he can name three "Palestinian" leaders prior to 1964.

    Ask the student in what year the Palestinian Constitution was written.

    Ask the student if he will condemn HAMAS.

    Ask the student where Jesus Christ was born. (Answer: in JUDEA. The West Bank is Judea and Samaria.)

  • muchiboy

    "Your hypocracy and bias stands out like a steamy pile of cow dung in the winter.I bet you think the preacher in florida is responsible for the deaths in afghanistan and other savage nations to dont you ."
    Let me ask you a question?When was the last time,never mind the first time,a Jew,any Jew,burnt a book,any book.Jews have too great a respect for learning,books,especially religious texts, and any and all religions.That is my answer to your query about the Florida preacher.You know who burns books?Bigots burn books.People afraid of truth burn books.Nazi's and Communists burn books.Even ignorant Christians burn books.I would be disappointed if Muslims burnt books.
    True,I am biased towards the Palestinian position,like you and most posters here show an Israeli bias.But I am far from hypocritical.I value my critical thinking skills and am open to your and others opposing positions.That doesn't mean I refute my own opinions.It means I listen to reason and am willing to compromise.In fact,my position has changed towards recognition of important aspects of the Israeli/Zionist position,more so then my opponents or the position of FPM towards the Palestinian position..muchiboy

    • SpiritOf1683

      Its not books you would love to burn, eh Naziboy. It's Jews.

    • Telly

      I am not defending the actions of anyone.

      But I would like to point out that burning a book as a symbolic gesture is not the same as nazi "book burnings." Otherwise these guys would be forcing their way into public libraries and book stores and burning all of the copies of the Koran they could find.

      The main reason for book burnings is to prevent people from reading certain materials. Counter-Islamists should encourage people to read the Koran.

  • Sam Gates

    this is an aside, i know that all brown people are terrorists and everything, but do the authors of this article have proof that the student was Arab? it was not offered in the interview, and he does not have a Arabic accent.

    • Vivian

      You're right, Sam–the belligerent young man sounded and appeared to be Pakistani.

  • Sam Gates

    "shattered on the altar of reason and righteousness" is almost as ironic a turn of phrase as Palestinian Wall of Lies. The latter obscures the antecedent.

  • Christine A. Jubic

    I cant believe the ignorance of the pro-Israelis folk posting comments here. If they are true Jews they would abide by their holy books which forbids them to have a homeland of their own,..but rather, instructs them to be good citizens of any country they were born in or living in. Of course Jews have a right to live there (but not own or claim for their own) same as the Arabs do. The problem is that the Jews do not recognize the Palisinian right to their historic lands and are enslaving them in an aparthied state. Anyone who supports Israel supports aparthied and oppression. Israel is a racist state and Mossad did 9/11: See "Missing Links" The Definate Truth about 9/11."

    • Rafi Schutzer

      So funny !!

      You're almost as funny as the guy below.

      Go back to your pastor and ask him to help you learn to be a good person, As a Christian, aren't you supposed to do that?

      The Jews in Israel are surrounded by murderous hordes ( I think everyone has seen it by now). The Arabs who are citizens of Israel are the happiest Arabs in the world because they live in a real democracy, the only one in the Middle East.

      This whole apartheid thing is really obsolete now. If you want to be a Nazi, fine. You are allowed to hate Jews just as they did. But don't pretend that you are anything other than an anti-Semite.

      I'll remind you again, learn to be a good person. That's what the Jew (Jesus) you pray to supposedly wrote about.

      All the best,

      Rafi Schutzer

    • aspacia

      LMFAO! You have not read the Torah (forget the Old Testament and go the the Jewish version) nor the Talmud. According to the Torah, their land is from the Euphrates, to the Nile.

      What an idiot; now try researching valid sourcing instead of Wiki. Novel Idea!!! Read the Jewish version of the Torah.

  • Martin Riley

    I think the wall of lies is great, and I agree it should be on every campus in the world. It will not stop the world's slide into Israel bashing (Lib / Mus agenda), but it will stand as a witness against evil.

  • muchiboy

    "Do you think that the cameras filming every corner of a retail store are intimidating too? Or do you think they are meant to deter crime and capture evidence?"
    Apples and oranges,I think.Shoplifters and protestors have different motives and agendas.You can expect strong feelings and differences of opinion at a demonstration of this kind,and all involved must be careful not to aggravate an already charged atmosphere.Perhaps the Arab was intent on physical confrontation,I don't know.The Jewish boy's action in filming the other young man undoubtedly increased the tension and perhaps even the probability of physical confrontation.

    . saw them filming. He didn't need to speak to them if he didn't want to.
    Wasn't that the point of the wall of lies,to show another point of view,even to spark useful debate?
    I'll remember your attitude about property being the first victim of protest when my car is keyed for my political stickers. "
    I think we both can agree that peaceful protest is the standard in our society,and that laws are there for our protection.Still,you need to distinguish between scratching your ass and tearing it.A demonstration where where there is so much at stake in terms of one's peoples can hardly be compared to a genteel tea party where such behaviors would be out of place.Intense debate is to be expected and I would be surprised at it's absence.We have this kind of intensity here on FPM and on occasion cross the line. muchiboy

  • barrypatton

    Good for the Brave students who hung up the wall of lies….the smelly terrorist plo guy is typical of those monkeys

  • FrankS

    I think it would be great if there was a white board present with a challenge written on it asking for any sort of rebuttal and then writing down their innanities.

  • RichieRich

    Silence and Violence is all the know! They try to silence the truth and when that doesn't work, resort to violence!

  • Fred

    I wish I had been there. I would have (I have to watch what I write). Anyway he would have apologized after I "talked" to him.

  • Josh

    In Melbourne on Friday, activists from the BDS campaign ran a demonstration and when 12 of us went and silently stood about 5 meters away from them holding Israeli flags, they began spitting at us and yelling abuse. We stood our ground and weren't intimidated.

  • Raymond

    How many people live to be 100? NOT MANY! By dividing 70 into 6,000,000,000, we found that 85,000,000 humans will die every year on average (more or less from year to year, but all will be dead in approximately 70 years). We also found that dividing 365 days into 85,000,000 means that an average of 232,000 humans die every day.

    Now, let’s say that one in ten people are genuine born-again Believers. We are clearly told in Matthew 7:14 that few people ever make it to heaven!, “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT” (Matthew 7:14; Luke 13:23,24). How tragic! How horrible! Honestly, I would be very surprised if more than one out of every hundred people are truly saved and on their way to Heaven!

    Consider the billion people in China who know not the Lord Jesus Christ! Consider the countless hundreds of millions of Arabs (Islamic Muslims) who worship Allah and the prophet Mohammed. Consider the billion Catholics around the world that worship Mary and are trying to earn their way into Heaven through the keeping of the Seven-Sacraments and good works.

    On and on, religion and more religion! Countless billions of people are trusting in their religion to save them instead of the Lord Jesus Christ. Surely, nine out of ten people in this wicked world are bound for a Godless, eternal hell. I have no doubts whatsoever that 90% of the people in this world are going to Hell. Why? For one simple reason friend, they do not have the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior.

    Their sins have not been forgiven. We estimated that 232,876 humans die every day on average. 232,876 minus 10 % equals 209,588 people that perish into hell fire and destruction every single day that passes. So roughly, 200,000 HUMANS PLUNGE INTO HELL FIRE EACH AND EVERY DAY! We also see that 23,287 people (10%) make it to Heaven each day on average.

    The number of people which die every day can’t be denied! You can argue concerning the percentage of people going to Heaven verses Hell; however, Matthew 7:14 clearly teaches that only a "FEW" people will enter into Heaven. "MANY" are going to Hell. As I mentioned, I'd be surprised if more than 1% of the population are born-again believers.

    If you don't believe the Bible, then you had better hope to God that your right; If you believe the Bible "just enough" to obey it and call upon the saving name of Jesus Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of sins–you will be safe! We all must die and it’s guaranteed that were not going to escape death! It’s just a matter OF TIME! Prepare to meet thy God!

    Salvation is not found in religion, but in a person—Jesus Christ!

    • Rafi Schutzer


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