Congress Hears of the Plight of Egypt’s Christians


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Ibrahim: Sure.  Though I was born and raised in the U.S., my parents were both Copts who emigrated from Egypt in the late 1960s.  According to them, after Egypt’s 1952 revolution, they knew it was time to get going—knew that things would get progressively worse for Christians. And so they have. I believe they understood this, not because they were especially prescient, but rather because what is understood immediately and instinctively on the ground (in Egypt), often take decades to become intelligible thousands of miles away (in the West).

In fact, it’s interesting for me to recall, in retrospect, how, the things I and others constantly write about in order to get the West to understand Islam, Copts know instinctively—simply because they experience in reality what we know in theory.  This disconnect is why a group like the Muslim Brotherhood, the mere mention of which for decades would make Coptic hair stand on end, is now touted as a “largely secular” group by the current U.S administration, which has been complacent, if not complicit, in the Brotherhood’s  rise to power.

This, by the way, is one of those things that are utterly incomprehensible to Copts and other minorities from the Muslim world—how the West can in any way, shape, or form support Islamic groups like the Brotherhood.  Again, this is a reflection of their intimate acquaintance of these groups, their certain knowledge that the Brotherhood is practicing taqiyya merely to dupe their stronger, but naïve, infidel enemies.  Likewise, regarding Islam’s inroads in the U.S., comments like “So – we left Egypt only to find the same sort of crap we left behind following  us here in America!” are common among the diaspora. This, of course, is the sentiment of any number of non-Muslims—not to mention many nominal Muslims—who quit the Muslim world and come to the U.S.

FP: Very eye opening, Raymond.  What do you think are the most important points about the plight of Egypt’s Christians, points I presume you made at the hearing?

Ibrahim: Probably the most important thing is to establish continuity; to show that what we’re seeing today—whether churches burned, monasteries attacked, or crucifixes (and those who wear them) destroyed; whether Christian girls abducted, raped, and force-converted; whether expectations of Christians to play the role of cowed “dhimmis”—to show that all of these things mirror, often identically, 1400 years of history in Egypt.

In other words, if you read Islam’s own authoritative histories, you will see that what is today happening to the Copts happened yesterday.  The parallels are almost eerie: I’ll read a current report dealing with Coptic persecution, and then later I’ll be reading from Arabic primary sources dealing with Egyptian history, and it’s almost like I’m reading of the same exact events (here’s one example).

Nor is this resurgence of anti-Christian sentiment an aberration in Islamic history.  But because there was a lull in such persecution—beginning in the colonial era when Western influence in the Muslim world was widespread and many Muslims were indifferent to Islam, to just a few decades ago—most Westerners, deeming events closer to their time as more representative of reality, overlook the continuum of history and doctrine dealing with persecution, and thus fail to comprehend what is otherwise so obvious and increasingly open for the world to see.  This, of course, is exacerbated by the fact that the articulators of knowledge—the media, academia, and apologists of all stripes—in the name of multiculturalism and political correctness, have made such ugly truths all but incomprehensible.

In fact, as I was compelled to point out at the hearing, in a different age, we wouldn’t even need to have congressional hearings, as that unfashionable and outdated thing we used to call common sense would have sufficed to make the realities of Christian persecution under Islam unequivocally clear.

Put differently, the evidence of Muslim persecution of Christians is overwhelming—doctrinally, historically, and daily.  What is lacking is a Western paradigm that can accept—and act upon—this evidence.

FP:  Thanks for those insights, Raymond, and for joining us today.  Any final thoughts?

Ibrahim: Thanks for the invite, Jamie; glad to have shared these words with you and FPM.

As for final thoughts, here’s the bottom line: Inasmuch as Islam returns as a force to be reckoned with, so too will those things intrinsic to its well-documented history—in this case, Christian persecution—return.  What we are witnessing now is but the early stages.  Left unaddressed, great atrocities if not wholesale massacres are in store; and the blood of those countless innocents will be on the hands of those who enabled their Islamic persecutors—all while blithely ignoring reality and common sense.

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  • Yeshayahu Goldfeld

    Pope Shinoda iii , the Ambas and other Copt personalities fill the Egyptian press with
    songs of praise and hymns of gratitude and vows of servitude to Islam .The Copts
    have served Islamist hate propaganda against Jews and Israel in a series of pseudo-scholarly books published during the last 30 years.

    • ziontruth

      Under duress, the few Jews remaining in Iran are forced to disavow Israel and condemn Zionism.

      Whatever the truth is about the Copts and their relationship to the Jews and their state, the fact is the Copts of Egypt are fast descending into the state the Jews were in 1930s Europe, unarmed, stateless and facing a largely indifferent world more inclined to appease the Arabian oil-sellers than to stand up for an oppressed minority, despite all the rhetoric to that effect.

  • Beth

    Excellent testimony given by Raymond Ibrahim. I love how he pointed out how the education system has white-washed islam. I hope to see more hearings on the subject of islam's brutal teachings put before congress.

  • Brujo Blanco

    I met a Copt woman from Egypt. She had to leave Egypt not only for being Christian but because she taught English in a private school for the children of British national. She put it simply that the Muslims so not like us.

  • jacob

    The US Congress has the solution to the Copts genocide in its hands :____Make the Egyptian rulers an offer they can't refuse :__Either make sure the Copts are respected or else kiss our subsidy goodbye.__Rest assured you will see immediate action, same as the way PAKISTAN backpeddaled….__Now, will our President agree ????

  • jacob

    As to the complacency of the West and specially of good old USA about Islam
    and specially the Muslim Brotherhood, one has just to remember OBAMA's
    apology for American "misdeeds" to the Muslim world at the CAIRO meeting;
    his genuflexing to the Keeper of the Faith, the Saudi King ; his treatment of the
    Israeli PM, his attempts to put Israel into a corner, forcing it to commit suicide;
    his concepts about the Israeli PM as he told SARKOZI and his backing the so called "ARAB SPRING" which is turning instead into a WINTER for all intent
    and purpose

  • StephenD

    Even with winning the entire M.E. for the Caliphate, there would still be need to deal with the balance of the world. What I'm suggesting is the fight hasn't even been engaged in yet from our perspective. The first thing we need to do is expose the truth. Tell everyone what we know. Pull the wrapping off and show the ugly truth about Islam. Pull no punches. I believe the human spirit would choose Personal Liberty and Individual Responsibility over subjugation and tyranny. We must do all we can to prevent another Dark Ages.

  • esperantominoria

    I believe the REAL solution is to get the 15 million Christians OUT of the Muslim countries,Europe needs millions of new immigrants just to NOT DIMINISH its population.

    That is the real solution,my friends.

    VIDEO with SAM HARRIS,ATHEIST critic of Islam.I dont agree with every idea of his in "Letter to a Christian Nation" but he is no dhimmi:
    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/06/21/sam-harrisbr

    ALSO

    NAOMI CHAMBERS,another ATHEIST critic of Islam:
    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/05/01/introducing-

  • PAthena

    Since the President of the United States is Barack Hussein Obama, non-Muslims can expect no help from the U.S. Why was he giving a speech in Cairo? to exonerate the Muslims who perpetrated 9/11? His speech was, in any case, filled with falsehoods: the Muslims did not invent the printing press – Gutenberg in Mainz did that; the Muslims did not invent the compass – the Chinese did that; the Muslims did not found the first university – Italians did that in Bologna. And Mohammedanism and followers of Mohammed had nothing to do with the founding of the United States of America.
    Obama even white washes the Muslim outrages in the U.S. – e.g., the murder of soldiers at Fort Hood in the name of Islam – by calling it a "work-place" incident.